987.2 started in 2009. Base 2.9L had port injection, no risk of bore scoring, shorter 1st and 2nd gears compared to S model, same brakes as S model except not painted red. 987.2 Cayman S has the 3.4L that is direct injection, very reliable but some have expressed concern for possible bore score and carbon build up.
@gilbertferguson16855 ай бұрын
Nice video. I owned a 2009 Cayman and a 2014 Cayman S. Both were excellent, problem free cars. Definitely a good buy today, especially the ones with the 4 cylinder turbo engine.
@jonathanhughes58066 ай бұрын
Three words that were not mentioned in this 30 minute buyers guide, pre purchase inspection. A pre purchase inspection from a certified Porsche mechanic/dealer will provide all of the details, good or bad, that you need to know about the car you're about to spend your hard earned money on. Before I bought my 981 Cayman S, I took it on a test drive over to the local Porsche dealer for a pre purchase inspection. It helped make my decision to buy the car.
@husmanbros6 ай бұрын
Rob realized that after we wrapped - we are actually going to make a video that shows you what a good PPI entails
@fishjasdroid4 ай бұрын
Love my 981S with only 40K miles. My first Porsche.
@andyhulme66663 ай бұрын
I also have a 981 on 40k. 1st Porsche for me too. Love it.
@taylordoingstuff6 ай бұрын
987.1 - I think bigger issue is potential bore scoring. That seems to be a bigger risk than IMS.
@TexasRiverRat312546 ай бұрын
Yes, but apparently the base 2.7l doesn't suffer from that problem. The smaller engine gets a 5spd with different gear ratios and it's a lot of fun since you get to use 2nd and 3rd, 4th occasionally. The 987's had water based glue on the headliners and in hot climates were prone to sagging. I love my little 987.1 base, it's great!
@taylordoingstuff6 ай бұрын
@@TexasRiverRat31254agree. From what I hear the .1’s are mostly free of the issue. Sweet car! I just drove my first 981 Boxster S manual last week. That flat 6 😍
@heelntoe39826 ай бұрын
@TexasRiverRat31254 That's correct. It's because the material used on the piston skirts of the 2.7 is different than the material used for the 3.4 piston skirts. The material eventually wears off the piston, and bore scoring begins.
@alphabeta84032 ай бұрын
3:55 987 7:50 981 11:30 Taking care of the car 14:20 718 20:35 High gearing in 6MT
@francistsui49314 ай бұрын
I have 4 Cayman S, one Cayman R and one 911 with Aerokit, all in yellow! The latest is the 2024 model and I really like all of them. The Cayman S is US$30K cheaper than the 911 and is just 0.3 seconds slower from 0-60 mph! But the handling of the Cayman S is better because it is mid engine! People said Cayman S is poor man Porsche but at over $100K now, it is definitely not! The Cayman S is my daily car and I am very happy with it! Buy the Cayman S if you want a Porsche for daily use! For daily use in Los Angeles PDK is a must option! 😂
@bl89774 ай бұрын
It's the best 982. Add the PASM and PTV, SC, and 6MT, and it is the most sought after 718 after the GT4RS. The GTS 4.0 is slower and you can't turn it into a supercar with a simple ECU UPGRADE FOR 1100.00
@postalpanchoАй бұрын
Why do people keep claiming such in such car will be the last ICE? Electric car market has been tanking like crazy, nobody wants them! Battery is still heavy, likely a 4cyl turbo hybrid or plug in hybrid will be the next. Best of both worlds.
@michaelgreatorex23402 ай бұрын
Amazingly helpful video. My Cayman 718 is being built as we speak and I’m so glad I opted for manual transmission and the awesome racing yellow paint job! Very interesting what you say about the long gears. This will be my first car so driving in general is going to be quite the adventure in the Cayman I think! 💨
@JosephDamico-f7q4 ай бұрын
bought 2014 porsche boxster s just puts a smile on my face every time .
@mrkoww5 ай бұрын
That yellow 981 has a story of its own according to jack. Awesome cars.
@husmanbros5 ай бұрын
It’s a fun story, for sure!
@ThatCaymanGuy6 ай бұрын
So in the 987.1 was the M97 motor, different IMS more resilient but as someone else mentioned cylinder slap can be an issue on some cars.
@davemackie4424Ай бұрын
The 987.1 Cayman S didn't have the M96 - it had the M97, which is much less susceptible to IMS issues (but as someone said below, bore scoring is a bigger issue of concern), and there are conflicting reports as to whether you can even service the IMS bearing in the M97 engine.. Also, the 987.2 came out in 2009, and it had the M9A1, not the "M1A".
@radiatorgrillestore5 ай бұрын
Great video hitting on the greatest value in the Porsche lineup. Truth at 11:30!! We have solutions for that issue on all of the Cayman/718 vehicles! Another issue related to the water based glue with the 981 is the headliner falling as well. Replaced the headliner and the door panels under warranty luckily.
@brianbirkinbine20545 ай бұрын
Love my 2007 Cayman S (987.1) in Guards Red, the boxster engine howl inside the cabin above 4000 rpms is glorious! I don't really worry about IMS, as for bore scoring, look for the PCA 4-part youtube video series on it, has really great tips on how to prevent it (how to warm up the car, oil selection, fuel selection, etc).
@paulbigsby11718 күн бұрын
They talked about the 718 GTS and GT4 RS, but nothing about the 4 cyl S model. I own a 2017 CS MT, and I'm going to assume that scheduled oil and service in lieu of proper care and driving is most important. It would've still been good to have that viewpoint.
@michaeledwardlenzi6 ай бұрын
In the US, 987.2 era starts in 2009 and runs to 2012. .2s have the new Direct Injection engine, and the PDK transmission(and not the old Tiptronic) was an option.
@williambrandt92546 ай бұрын
Thanks for an informative video! When I got out of the army in 1974, I lusted for a 914-2.0 that was supposedly a VW engine massaged by Porsche I think they only made 3000 of the 914-6 Like the Cayman they deliberately kept the engine under powered so it wouldn't blow off the 911 I thought on and off of getting a Cayman and when you hear of IMS bearings and scored cylinder walls and $25,000 engine replacement cost kind of makes you gun shy. So I guess my search would be limited to a 987.2 What I'd like to know is what that engine is capable of long-term? I have three old Mercedes - one of which has 230,000 miles and uses virtually no oil. My 2000 E430 has 160,000 miles with no problems. Of course maintenance is the key and I've always used synthetic oil and changed it on time. And when I look on the net about "high mileage" Caymans they speak of numbers like 120,000. So you're getting a 10-year-old car or more which will probably have 80,000 to 100,000 miles Anyway thank you for the nice video - it was informative
@thatlamborghiniguy58266 ай бұрын
Nice video, thank you
@dp29015 ай бұрын
Same situation with my former used 981S (manual all drivers options). Sold it at a slight gain and got into a new CGTS (also a manual). I’d say that the 981S feels and sounds a lot less refined than the 718 CGTS and that’s a good thing.
@frederikebert19856 ай бұрын
I own a high mileage (75000 miles) 981 GTS with the manual and sports suspension. I drive it a lot but I don’t abuse nor track it. It’s been a wonderful car with hardly any issues. Build-quality is fantastic. I am a smaller guy and I agree the cabin is on the cozy side.
@heelntoe39826 ай бұрын
Take it to the track for an HPDE with your local PCA. You won't regret it!
@jonathanhughes58066 ай бұрын
I bought my 981 Cayman S with 60k miles and 2.5 years later it now has 95k miles as it's my daily driver. No mechanical issues whatsoever. I've replaced the headliner that was falling down. Unfortunately both interior door panels are coming up at the top where the glue is wearing out. I'm just driving it as is for now.
@cinkoteros4 ай бұрын
Really great knowledge and experience from the guy!!!
@williammorris33345 ай бұрын
There is no difference in cabin room between 911 and 981/982. The front half of the unit body is the same. I’m 6’ 220 lbs and I find there is plenty of room for me and I’ve gone on 6-7 hour drives. It’s very comfortable albeit the suspension is a bit firm
@johnpasquali37224 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 base Cayman with 36,000 miles. It seems when ever I come to a stop there's a thud coming from the transmission. My Porsche mechanic said it is nothing to worry about it's a Porsche. I had the clutch and transmission serviced for fluid change. Still does it.
@husmanbros4 ай бұрын
Look at the trans mount and/or motor mounts.
@matthewwaldrup1492 ай бұрын
That’s like the e9x m3… and one of the main issues is rod bearings… and it seems that the lower mileage ones and ones that sit and don’t get Driven much have more Rod bearing failures. Whereas me who drives it everyday and have 155k miles on factory rod bearings. Never been changed
@ikigai4727 күн бұрын
It sounds like you guys are in Dallas. I'm Richardson. What Dallas area Porsche specialists would you guys recommend that are honest and reasonable? Thanks
@husmanbros26 күн бұрын
We are in Dallas. If it’s Air Cooled, I’d go see Mayo Performance. If it is liquid cooled, go see Innovative Autosports.
@ikigai4726 күн бұрын
@@husmanbros - Thank you so much!!
@eileenb2344 ай бұрын
With the expensive cost of a PDK failure (987.2 and 981), do not overlook the Tiptronic S. It was still in the Cayenne for MANY years because it is very robust ( does not fail! ) On the track it performs well.
@johnob18245 ай бұрын
987.1 2.7 never had the ims and bore score issues, only the 3.2s and 987.2, resesion came so not many were sold.
@jdavis30553 ай бұрын
Drooping or falling headliners on the 987 and 981 models are frequently reported. That's not an OE wing on the 981. Want to tell us about it?
@williammorris33345 ай бұрын
2009 was first year of 9A1 engine in the 987.2, later put in the 981 Boxster/Cayman. 9A1 has no IMS and has direct injection. Fun fact, most of the parts from the 911 are shared with the 986/987/981/982.
@flat6croc5 ай бұрын
9A1 is not direct injection. Or rather, not all 9A1 are direct injection. The 2.9 in the base 987.2 is port injection. The rest are DI.
@josephlim89416 ай бұрын
987.1 received the 3rd Gen IMS. It’s a large diameter and located inside the shaft. Do not Touch. The failure rate is probably the same as if you were to replace non OEM IMS in a 986. Bore scoring is prevalient in all 987.1 and .2 S. 2.7l is known to not have bore scoring. 981 PDK failure likely due to lack of maintenance. PDK needs fluid change every 2 years.
@Jay-xr3sb6 ай бұрын
Pdk is solid, change the oil every 6 years. Same pdk that has been in every porsche over the last 12 years or so.
@flat6croc5 ай бұрын
Bore scoring is not prevalent in the .2 S. This is a myth currently gaining traction, but a myth all the same. A small proportion of 9A1 engines have suffered from seizing related to different expansion rates as a consequence of the engine being pushed too hard from cold. It's not the same thing as scoring in the M96/7 engine. Also, PDK does not need fluid changes every two years. There are thousands upon thousands of PDK cars that have never had their fluid changed and work fine.
@josephlim89415 ай бұрын
@@Jay-xr3sb PDK fluid (not oil) should be changed every 2 years (not 6).
@josephlim89415 ай бұрын
@@flat6croc I known several 987.2 that has bore score. Dealer technician confirms, even all the way up to early 981 bore scoring. The reason why you think it’s a myth is 987.2 are rarer than 987.1 and are garage queens for that same reason. Eventually, over time and milage will build up and bore scoring happens.
@flat6croc5 ай бұрын
@@josephlim8941 Nope, it's a myth. Go back to those technicians and ask if the cylinder damage is both sides or just the thrust side. It'll be both sides, which is seizing, rather than just the thrust side, which is scoring. Moreover, it's now 16 years since the first 9A1 cars came out (the first 997.2 were mid 2008) and 13 years since the first 991.1 cars came out, all with pretty much the same 9A1 engine as the 987.2 engine. The 991.1 and 981 sold in big numbers, but the combined examples of 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 9A1 cars with seizing adds up to very, very few cars. With the M97 3.4+ cars, they were failing with scoring at scale within a few years of launch and a decade after launch the failures were everywhere - to be really really clear, at the same point in the 9x7.1's life as we are with the 9x1.1 cars, failure with scoring was already at epidemic levels. So, yes it's true that 9x7.2 cars are relatively rare, but people forget just who long the 9x1.1 cars have been out. So, yes, the whole scoring thing on the 9A1 is a myth based on misunderstanding and the conflation of a completely different seizing issue into "scoring". Long story short, a very small number of 9A1 engines across 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 cars have suffered from differential expansion-related seizing and because of the scoring epidemic in M97 engines, people including some in the trade have jumped to entirely the wrong conclusions and misinformation is being spread at scale, including your post.
@MatthewXue-xh5qb2 ай бұрын
I am just starting looking at used Porsche market here, and saw a great condition 2014 Cayman S Automatic with 40.2k miles. it is well maintained but only down side is rebuild title under cosmetic repair. Here is the kicker, I don’t know much about Porsche much becaseu they are too many version and model numbers to look at, it is hard for me to pin point them. After watching video, so I m gusssing 2014 Cayman S is the 718, if I m not mistaken. I want to know what are the main things to look out for before I pull the trigger.
@MarkLRandall4 күн бұрын
2014 would be a 981, not 718.
@PDM1967Ай бұрын
I am thinking about buying my first Porsche. Zero interest in track ready, tinkering, rare allocated cars, or features I don’t need. I want an easy to maintain, fun (and easy) to drive sports car. With an automatic. 4.7 0-60 is more than good enough for me. Is the base 718 a good choice?
@husmanbrosАй бұрын
Yes - just drive one first
@edventures98846 ай бұрын
I love the 987’s in yellow!! And the 987.2’s are so pricy here in CA. I saw one posted the other day for $40kUSD, mint condition. Not sure if that price is normal but can’t seem to find many .2’s for sale. I’d love a 987 but at those prices I’d probably go for a 981
@ohmyggg6 ай бұрын
Great vid! Curious - are those wheels on your GTS 4.0 Silver or Satin Platinum?
@lordmaster55225 ай бұрын
Should have mentioned the original 718 from the late 50s to early 60s where Porsche brought the nameplate back. This was probably the first mid-engine Porsche before the 914/916.
@powong50916 ай бұрын
Great video ! Can experienced Porsche lovers also state the common errors/ cost to main the cayman ? For the new comers
@davidvasta6 ай бұрын
Had a 2007 987 and loved it. Probably better than the 911 but not as iconic.
@bl89774 ай бұрын
The 718 Cayman S is quicker than the GTS 4.0. Instant torque and the power is amazing. The "Subaru" claim is sourgrapes from the flat 6 crew that are upset the 911 turbo F4 is whoopin em. 🤣
@jonfrench71336 ай бұрын
914 also sold in the Uk at least as a Porsche
@Boatfisherz1Ай бұрын
987.1 motor has a bigger issue with bore scoring compared to IMS bearing failures. Not that reliable of an engine on the originals. You really should have mentioned that on the .1's. I also think those 981's are about 10k cheaper than what he thinks, in fact there was one in 2023 with similar condition and color for 42k.
@nunyabusiness41885 ай бұрын
Why is that GTS dirty?
@johnreavis6364 ай бұрын
987.2 was first introduced in 2009
@ronsim762 ай бұрын
The 914 was not sold as Volkswagen in europe.
@Rick-y7r6 күн бұрын
Buy the base model 718. Could have made this video 60 seconds
@husmanbros5 күн бұрын
They aren’t gonna pay us for 60 second videos. Thanks for watching!
@Rick-y7r5 күн бұрын
@ it’s based on numbers of views. You telling us that if a million people viewed this content for 60 seconds you wouldn’t be remunerated?
@husmanbros5 күн бұрын
Yt wants videos of a certain length.
@Rick-y7r5 күн бұрын
@ I see
@ElCid_865 ай бұрын
Contact Pedro’s garage for the door card repair!
@lennonwooten86005 ай бұрын
Swear if someone buys the cayman I’m saving up for ima tweak out bruh
@husmanbros5 ай бұрын
Get it while it’s hot!! -AA
@jvelez53812 ай бұрын
This card did not say Porsche
@flat6croc5 ай бұрын
If you're going to do a video like this, surely you need to be well informed? All 987.1 Caymans have the final big IMS bearing which hardly ever fails. Meanwhile, scoring on the 987.1 3.4 is a much bigger risk than IMSB failure ever was on any M96 engine.
@john2k245 ай бұрын
Nobody wants the electric junk in the Cayman or the Boxster. So sit back, watch their sales plummet, and watch them revert back to a gas motor. Btw the 2025 cayman confirmed gas, but now that’s supposed to be the LAST year.
@seang35384 ай бұрын
So basically anyone who has a 4 cylinder 718 are not real Porsche owners. Gotcha. The Porsche snobbery is rampant in this video!
@husmanbros4 ай бұрын
Yes. Don’t buy anything 4 cylinder when there is another option. You will regret it.
@aaronschen98963 ай бұрын
4 cylinder 718 will leave a 981 for dead, and if it's about enjoyment not speed the car should have 3 pedals anyways.
@andrewstever57283 ай бұрын
Sorry but you're not taller
@slydermartin60085 ай бұрын
Porche is Losing their bet on Electric Taycan. The secondary market is in the dumpster. If they change other models to EV.......Good Luck!