2018 Toyota LandCruiser Prado vs Haval H9 | motoring.com.au

[@LoveEVandenvironment]

My brother has been driving a Haval 6 (cost $27k) for 5 and half years, and traveled 170,000kms, it's still very good. Definitely worth the money!!!

[@Kevin_Dinkha]

Shuang Li im thinking about buying it and i will take your word for it 🙂

[@butcherv3332]

中国人就不要来回答了…

[@xw8462]

@@butcherv3332 why？ maybe you should STFU.

[@icashADDICT]

@@xw8462 hahaha

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

We bought H2 Lux had it a year now....and we love it! Replaced my wife’s great but old KIA Rio hatch. Compared to the Rio it’s like the Starship Enterprise, the wife is still learning how to use all the on board kit! I find it very comfortable on a long trip. I own a lovely 2000 Mercedes E240 Wagon, it’s in great condition and is still a fantastic car, but l really enjoy it when I drive the Haval. I think it’s a great looking little SUV and the big 18” alloys fill the wheel arches nicely. Very happy and I think we got a huge amount of bang for our hard earned bucks!

[@ronnel1227]

Had a test drive with a sydney rep., i used to be a toyota salesman, so Im familiar with their SUVs, plus we have an in law who has a GXL prado, so fair to say that at 45K vs 80K , even if they say that 0-zero resale value which is far from the truth, Haval still wins. Luxurious in and out..

[@oggyoggy1299]

Shows $45k v $63k at the start of the video. Easy win for the Prado.

[@thesuperproify]

I actually own a Haval and man it is not bad at all ! For the price I paid for, definitely couldn't get a better car than my Haval

[@shawsie5780]

Toyota might be more expensive but the resale value is far better, crunch the numbers!

[@stevensudragor]

Haval is pretty new. It's not old enough to have a true resale history. Give it minimal time to build its rep before jumping to bigot speculations, that was also quite rampant on korean cars when they started.

[@matthull5252]

See how your liking it after 60ks

[@thesuperproify]

Relax guys, I made a conscious decision and bought my Haval with my own money, im just saying that it has exceeded my expectation. If you dont like Haval or maybe not comfortable with the idea of buying a Chinese branded car yet, then you just dont buy it, nobody is forcing you, at the end of the day its your money and you do you. Have a nice day!

[@Rally4Life1982]

You can get plenty of better "cars". But in this segment "offroad" you'd be hard pressed for the money to find something better.

[@pedroreprezas]

I've been driving GWM & Haval for the last 8-9 years. If installments are an issue why pay more? Toyota comes a long way and I own one but Haval has introduced something new, something fresh!

[@sonnysingh2456]

Everyone is commenting about reliability....but the forget that the Haval has a 7 year unlimited km warranty.

[@sms1071]

hey indian why u suppprting chinese poroduct

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

I prefer the Haval. It's more comfortable and luxurious, and is much much cheaper.

[@jzvr5842]

@@timreynolds6007 No idea what you bought but Haval has been China's best selling SUV brand for a number of years in a row, reliability is great according to consumer feedback.

[@eliafranzini8038]

@@jzvr5842 we have even in italy but just the great wall h6 suv,steed 6 (wingle) and the haval 2

[@yibao9269]

Tim Reynolds all right, try not to use products from China or shut up.

[@arminius6506]

@@timreynolds6007 I rate legendary Land Cruiser better than all competitors but Haval is also pretty good. Not to tell you that it was a huge success in World largest automobile market

[@timreynolds6007]

yi bao try not? I will not.. buy Chinese products Chinese products are never built to last they’re all disposable products

[@FastDuckyGaming]

Both are good! Both can cross difficult terrains. Great work china and japan!

[@ZLL668]

But one costs half of the other.

[@arefeshghi]

@@ZLL668 and probably one will fall apart twice as fast as the other! :)

[@ZLL668]

@@arefeshghi prejudice can do more harm to yourself than others.

[@isuruthiwanka9448]

@@arefeshghiThat is called market tricks..

[@AAA-jp7xb]

But China is a Doctatory Republic and they're kills the muslims in eastern turkistan.

[@DOBERSTAFFIE]

That's a good effort for the Chinese car! Looks nice and nice interior. Give it a few years and they will be able to match off road to. My cruiser is now 25 years old and still runs great, need to see how the Haval do a few years done the line for reliability. Good effort though and the price is certainly attractive and it has more than enough ability for most 4X4 drivers.

[@tomsvenkesen2476]

DOBERSTAFFIE you can Bay range rover jeep Mercedes gelendewagen BMW x5 audi q7 and another suv Therese arena alle crap Compare too Toyota landcruser. Toyota is te best car maker inn the world is a fact.

[@universaInformation]

@@tomsvenkesen2476 LOL

[@willwolaile]

Consider the price difference, Haval WOW impressive. But it needs time to prove reliability.

[@proboxpepper6752]

$45k vs $90k, well it's a quite a bit of difference eh.

[@luiss5648]

After 5 years 1 will still be worth over 45k and the other one hmm lol

[@garylab7934]

@@luiss5648 Agreed, but I guess after 5 years you could buy a new Haval again for 45k and still sell your old one for at least half or more than what you bought it for.

[@craiga7652]

The Chinese are improving quite quickly but still a lot of improvement required in quality, strength & reliability.

[@xuefeizhao6501]

You are absolutely right，As an off-road vehicle，reliability is an important metric，We should work harder。

[@pedroreprezas]

I too, in fact it's my second vehicle with the Chinese brand. I'm sold out!!

[@FARANG100]

Both of them too good. No difference. Why pay more?

[@ismailtopa3671]

Say that after 5 years of daily use

[@danielmelendez3546]

Ismail Topa what if I only use it on weekends?

[@danielmelendez3546]

Ismail Topa what if I only use it on weekends?

[@sabakk8087]

@@danielmelendez3546 Even very good for use Avery day.

[@cadhlaohanlon4443]

@@ismailtopa3671 my brother lives in China, he bought a haval h6 when?it first cane out, and it still runs like a deer after all my brother's years if heavy duty use.

[@Nick210]

Why would i want a quick shifting transmission or paddle shifters in a Prado? Reviewers complain about the most irrelevant shit sometimes.

[@9186SZ]

Agreed

[@luiss5648]

And a electronic handbrake? 🤣

[@masakamasaka6109]

H2 ,is the best..jus give them time like the huawei...

[@jomsawanhsinthavong9992]

I LOVE HAVAL H9

[@1969cmp]

It depends where you live. Not many in Melbourne will venture onto true 'off road'. If you live in Townsville, Alice Springs or Tennant Creek and gnarly off road is your hobby, the choice would be the big 'T'.

[@rupertfdr350]

lol at the 3rd rows seats of the Haval it seems like he ignored the fact that his Knees and his chest are almost touching.

[@anthonyramdin1037]

I know right😂😂

[@akltom]

at the same time, you won't be allowed to fit 6 in your 5 seats car, but you can fit 7 in a haval 9 legally. those two extra seats not for everyday use. but they are there when you need them. for short distance maybe.

[@luiss5648]

I had to watch it again because I didn't notice it 🤣 and he said "surprise surprise it is the same" no it is not. Hahah

[@ranasugar]

Toyota got 5 years 150000km warranty where Havel 7 years unlimited km warranty

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Towing capacity? I would have thought that a comparison in this segment would not be complete without this information.

[@EeeLife]

I think you need to compare two cars in the same price range. This Haval is just about 70% of Prado's price.

[@290948kenwong]

You mean the Haval 9 is about 50% of the price of a Prado.

[@canonforce4050]

Which winner in POWER delivery?

[@bobpfaff2258]

Do a review of the same two cars in 12 months after 20 thousand km.

[@universaInformation]

SOME HAVALS BEEN DRIVEN 5 YEARS AND STILL GOING LIKE NEW.

[@brentwhiteley2589]

The toyota diesel will have its timing chain rattle and need to be replaced.

[@sergioordonez6541]

Es increíble lo que ha logrado Haval en tan corto tiempo pues ingresar a un mercado exigente y voraz como el australiano no es tarea fácil y lo ha hecho bien. Saludos desde Ecuador.

[@ericxx3303]

Haval spends half cost to gain the most function of a major Australian car, I am wondering how better performance a full price of Chinese vehicle can do? I always image, we only pay very little for a Chinese product, how the quality will be if we pay the same price?

[@steveyao3102]

low cost production in China, everything in Japan is much more expensive. u r paying Japanese dealership, advertisement and Japanese worker retirement plan as well.

[@josealgaba4083]

Go off-road out in the desert with a 2 ton camper in the Haval and if it comes back intact lol than i’ll choose it in my opinion is a great suv overall for urban areas

[@290948kenwong]

Towed a 18 ft. caravan from Cairns to Ayres Rock and came back via Adels Grove with a Haval 9. over 200 klms of rocky road and one puncture from original shit highway tyres. You can stick your Prado where it fits best. Love our auto 8 speed gear box on the Haval 9.

[@jmz6928]

haval should get diesel for Australian market

[@upgpowertech4593]

Will be there

[@hujiaming6151]

Why diesel? It pollutes so much and so expensive to maintain and purchase it, in short diesel sucks.

[@thomasedwa]

@@hujiaming6151 Diesel and Petrol are quite similar in Aus. Diesel is more efficient than gas, Diesel is safer and easier to find in rural Australia. Please go away Chinese 50 cent army.

[@ysgood]

@@thomasedwa Diesel version is usually more expensive. I recon Havel just doesn't have the confidents to release another more expensive version.

[@123fourfive5]

Haval had a diesel H9 but they shelved it. They sold them in Russia for a while but figured it wasn't worth it. It had really similar performance to the petrol and not much difference in fuel consumption. Their plan is to jump straight into hybrids and EVs as soon as the trend starts. Which will be interesting to see for large vehicles. Especially when it comes to towing.

[@fruit5488]

In my opinion Toyota is known for their reliability, and China is known for their mass production. The electric parking brake is the big deal breaker as well as the touchy transmission for the Haval and for my knowledge the LandCruiser Prado Kakadu has power third row seats. I don't really care about the luxurious interior of the Haval although the 2010 Kakadu has a nicer center console. I'd still choose the Prado or any LandCruiser.

[@chomsavanhsinthavong6481]

I LOVE HAVAL H9 SO MUCH FRIEND

[@CruiserBrah]

What a disappointing conclusion, the Prado winning on an untested theory of reliability on the Oodnadatta track.

[@samy8897]

i really wish to know the sales figures of haval comapny in australia , anyone have link?

[@hsvcommodore4111]

Doesn't Look like a prado at all

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

Yes...thank goodness!

[@t8polestarcyan22]

I'll take the Haval H9 for the interior and its turbocharged petrol engine. Not to mention our former Pajero's V6 lack of low end torque compared to any equvilient European turbocharged (like) engines.

[@CTOInformation]

so what Australian makes? ...dirt?

[@chrishuang7932]

Review

[@CTOInformation]

@@chrishuang7932 on americans youtube with british language. boooo~

[@ashernoeckel9919]

I think if I lived the the city then I would definitely get the h9, but if you are out bush like me there is no comparison for a landcruiser even if it is only a prado😜

[@isaialeuila9327]

That's what y'all said when the Japanese car manufacturers first began selling in Australia. So I'll give it a few years and y'all will be driving these Chinese cars everywhere

[@georgesarris2913]

rubbish, Japanese automakers have been around for decades

[@isaialeuila9327]

Are you three who commented the whole of Australia? Let me say it again MAJORITY of Australians will start driving these.

[@stevensudragor]

Jonathan Potter you call dji drones inferior and cheap stuff. Your thinking is outdated.

[@Maccat]

@@stevensudragor DJI has been banned by a heap of Government agencies around the world due to the "spying" chips that have been found on they silicon boards. The Australian Army had to have theirs reprogrammed and modified in the sake of national security. So why are the scumbags spying on us?

[@stevensudragor]

@@Maccat source?? According to abc video that is very biased. They still admit that there was zero evidence of spying but only risk was that they were Chinese and that's it. Basically just concern and no proof. They hate the fact that the number one drone maker is now Chinese. 😏 Beside, as long as you have a secure network and the Drone has no backdoor. It's perfectly safe. The Australian defence force did a 2 weeks review and later continued to use the dji drones as they found no proof or danger that it was compromised. Use KZbin and go to the biased abc video and not once do they have proof or evidence. Instead they express sour disappointment when the aus army thoroughly tested the drones and decided to continue haha 😋

[@eddiemoore7562]

You've forgotten about the reliability of that new 2.8 in the Prado. Did someone say DPF?

[@AKA001]

Which version of the Prado are you driving here? For $63000 you barely make it past a GX, let alone a GXL. Neither of those have leather, heated seats or radar cruise. To get that you need either a VX or Kakadu, both are well into the $70000 even $80000. Yes the Prado has the better engine, rep and off road reliability. But 75% (perhaps even more) of Prado owners don’t do more than the occasional beachy or dirt road. If you want luxury, space, 7 seats and an occasional trip into the country the Havel is the more rational choice. There is always bias and yes the Prado is a better car, but I’d rather save $40000.

[@jzvr5842]

@@fatisdead7150 More like he's smart enough to not waste $40000, unlike idiots like you.

[@charliewolf7500]

Wait until the Nio ES8 is available here and not just tested in Australia. Then we can do a test with a premium Chinese vehicle against Jag iPace or other premium SUVs (electric or otherwise).

[@AW4WAL]

I'm curious if any crash worthiness tests have been done of the Haval; if so, by who and what were the results?

[@jzvr5842]

5 star ANCAP (Australian) rating for the Haval.

[@samy8897]

is haval brand a flop in aus?

[@oekfoh8684]

How long will it last though

[@kenezos]

Prado might be good but not that good. 2.8L 4 cyl engine hauling around all that weight? Plus all the issues with that engine? 😂

[@johneldepresso]

Ken Ezos they’ve got ridden of its issues back in 2013, and this engine produces a sufficient amount of torque to haul a fully loaded prado towing another fully loaded prado And in some countries the legendary 4.0L v6 is still available

[@mdarko3939]

Ken Ezos seriously 😐?? you are backdated dude.

[@jaimusicxx]

good review thanks - obliviously the Prado is king but an $18,000 saving....? i cant do it but i suspect many will buy the Haval..?

[@Lewythefly]

John_I you'll lose 18k when you drive the Haval off the lot and it depreciates

[@dimitris.p.kepenos]

You will probably lose that 18K in servicing and maintenance...

[@khsh99]

You will get back your 18k In resale value 😎

[@steveyao3102]

@@khsh99 well , u have to pay 18000 more upfront. after ten years 18000 is not that same money ten years ago! and that 18000 may get u other good stuff in that 10 years. so do the math!

[@keny4281]

why keep saying it's clearly a rip off? they look very much different to me, it's as different as a Ford to a Toyota... of course there will be similarities, but what do you expect.. they are both similar type of cars.. so of course there will be similar features and designs.

[@wax333]

the haval was doomed from start lol too many biased reviewers

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

Yeah I’m amazed at the prejudice! What really annoys me is it will probably put off a buyer on a tight budget, from buying what is a great SUV. That’s a pity. We have had our H2 Lux for a year now and we love it! Fantastic comfort on a long trip.

[@craigstevenson7708]

I pretty sure i saw ur comment on another video about the izusu d-max haha

[@chomsavanhsinthavong6481]

I prefer HAVAL H9, It's more comfortable and luxuriously and price cheaper, ok

[@R_Polly]

Let’s see which car is still going at 300,000km only the prado ...

[@aspirinchung1363]

i think so，they should made Lang time off-road test .

[@sunmarty]

Price is a issue here, very hard to choose vehicle now

[@terribletelevision6980]

It’s pronounced Ha Val. Why are you saying havvel?

[@justinbartle88]

Actually I worked for a Haval dealership for a short period of time, no one pronounced it Ha Val, it was always havvel

[@charliewolf7500]

I don't get how people argue one vehicle is better than another, without driving them? For me, precision, steering and handling count. Both are pretty aweful, compared to any car. However, the constant correction of steering in the Haval gets tiring and old fast. Could be easily corrected with a tighter rack and increased caster (centring).

[@bigozimak]

Is the Haval brand the first decent Chinese vehicle? Me thinks, yes!

[@vernonambraal7030]

Michael Aleksovski why does the haval h2 radio cd player indicate teperature high when using the bluerooth.Vernon h2 owner.

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

Yep I think it is, when I took a test drive I was very impressed with the cabin finishes and build quality. Easily as good if not better, than any other Japanese or Korean product. So good in fact, that I bought an H2 Lux. Had it a year now and we love it!

[@ProGamer-wu1bm]

I love the haval h9

[@njenga.n.n]

Due to spare parts I'll take the Prado but 5 years from now Haval

[@ericc.handoko7962]

For 20 k difference and 7 yrs unlimited km warranty it’s a no brainer

[@oggyoggy1299]

Yep, easy win for the Prado.

[@louies6914]

Xiaomi wasn't a name years ago in smartphone market.Neither Huawei.Look at them now.The Chinese can produce really nice products with a really impressive bang/buck ratio

[@chrischoy9]

However, they like to copy their western counterpart, and the after sales support is next to nothing.

[@xjcxjc222]

Desmond seems good，however ，aussie made is also shit，like holden

[@jzvr5842]

@@fatisdead7150 Lmao your peasant slave ass can't afford either get back to barking and begging for food on the streets.

[@jzvr5842]

@@chrischoy9 Huawei is way better than anything the West has to offer.

[@h4ru_d3su]

It's Not Fair. Why did you compare a High Trim Haval H9 with Lower Trim Level Prado? You Should compare with Prado Kakadu.

[@dino8ielts]

I m more worry about the dpf on the diesel prado, and yet that great wall engine still take times to prove. Pound to pound h9 wins.

[@ZigZag9639]

Why isn't the Prado's engine improved to a V8 and 8spd auto transmission?

[@rayanalanazi4043]

cause its toyota

[@oakfast]

Actually, you don't need to go all the way to 4.5 V8 1VD, just replace with the 8-speed transmission from Lexus LX & Pajero Sport ( My opinion same as yours ), it's 3x more reliable than 6-speed ( Even though both are Aisin )

[@OxRashedxO]

Chinese reversed engineering the toyota prado. That’s it !

[@cadhlaohanlon4443]

If that's the case then we all know the right choice, don't we?

[@cadhlaohanlon4443]

If that's the case then we all know the right choice, don't we?

[@leozhao1589]

500'000RMB vs 200'000RMB

[@bencarter2841]

Love my H9 wouldn't say it looks like a prado though haha. Drives like one though

[@bigyin2586]

6.25 Oodandatta? Is that near Oodnadatta?

[@ayambo3281]

The conclusion has nothing to do with the review if he’s concluding based on his personal preference of the Toyota brand name

[@justinbartle88]

I’m not sure what car he was driving in this but the Haval I found to be very sluggish with the turbo petrol. The Prado even though has less power I find the torquey diesel a lot better to drive. Please note I own none of these cars, but have driven both and Prado is where my money would go

[@Mrcloc]

"Holy shit handle" I didn't expect that! :D

[@290948kenwong]

Accidentally forgot to turn my rear diff lock back on after stopping the engine and I was really impressed with the handling of our Haval 9 in loose sand on the beach with near worn out highway tyres in 2 wheel drive high range mode.

[@saminyasaranabil920]

H9 could have been priced a bit aggressively 🥢🥢🥢

[@wceagles81]

Jesus Christ if the Chinese are going to imitate a Prado you know it’s already going to smoke it . It’s like buying a fake pair of Nikes and while I’m at it lets take both up to the remote Kimberly and see which one gets you home

[@王红-d4c]

Haval will.shake the off road car industry.

[@m24h5l76]

Wow some parts are similar to Subaru Forester 2009 and Tribeca

[@sdfgsdfg9549]

You shouldnt have problems sourcing spare parts for Haval. Just use Prado's since its a copy.

[@leonardonocaprio4370]

I hate that Iʻm reading all these comments in his accent. Pardon me my Aussie friends

[@haydendavis3063]

Haval has my money. I never go off road, so if im hauling my family long distances, I’m better off just sticking to the Haval and pay more frequent fuel costs.

[@isaialeuila9327]

I agree !

[@rupertfdr350]

That 3rd row of the Haval is Crap.

[@haydendavis3063]

Rupert FDR I don’t use the third row. It has a big boot, that’s what I want.

[@rupertfdr350]

Good luck with the Maintenance and Quality of the Product. Look at that 3rd row for god sakes.

[@haydendavis3063]

Rupert FDR WHY WOULD I LOOK AT THE THIRD ROW???????? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Have I not said it clear enough for you?

[@basicburgers978]

landcrusier pricing are getting out of control !!! At this point we really need some competition at this segment

[@farshadp6114]

I had Chinese car before, the only thing that I could fault and mostly similar with all Chinese cars is the underpowered engine beside that everything else was perfect.People need to change their attitudes towards Chinese stuff, I hear many complain without even owing one, if you can afford 90k, be my guest , I call it Toyotasim.

[@thomasliu4534]

Tell me how mach Havel gives to you ?Toyata will give you double

[@mariofarrugia3309]

Both should be towing a caravan to get the best results

[@saminyasaranabil920]

The same man designed both the car.

[@princepavel2654]

Haval H9 is good than Prado

[@alexfilippov1311]

but dont forget how much haval gonna cost after 5 years ? and what the prado gonna be worth especially diesel after 5 -7 yers

[@jamesfeuilherade3664]

Wow, have been having a good laugh at the heated debate and name calling below😁! Let’s see if I can stir some up.....”I had just finished towing a broken down Niss-can Patrol out of the bush with my H9....but I was almost very killed when I drove my expensive Toyboata Prado to the dealer to trade it in...when the accelerator stuck causing me to rear end another H9, and the Tokhata airbag then shot shrapnel up my nose!! The Prado was written off, but the H9 only had a scratched bumper”!

[@jzvr5842]

@@fatisdead7150 But it still got to a butthurt little troll like you.

[@raipul]

Haval H9 👍👍

[@patriot7997]

Japanese Toyota brand quality is beyond description

[@steveyao3102]

BS, i owned Camry, its cheap, suspension sucks. dose not run straight even when new, went back to dealership for alignment and still not quite straight, sold it after

[@patriot7997]

@@steveyao3102 sorry to hear. It might be exceptional case

[@sebastiannarvaez3756]

Haval h9

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Yeah, try getting a spare park for any Chinese brand in timbucktoo. some chinese brands use generic parts - VM diesels, Borg trans etc etc

[@oakfast]

And even 2nd batch versions of H9, uses ZF 8HP transmission which is same as BMW & VW Groups

[@Djordjeblrs]

Impressive Haval

[@rupertfdr350]

Djordjeblrs except for the 3rd row

[@daleocn5702]

i like haval h9

[@vitalitihomirov5781]

What? 44k for Chinese car?

[@johndoe-wh6td]

But lets be honest, if its a car for on road use only and for a price, specially for mrs ill pick the haval.

[@bobeden5027]

steering wander, check the toe-in.

[@LAWSIE100]

I may change my Fourby, but never my brand.

[@rossco2296]

Why would anyone in Australia buy Chinese now

[@edwardvalivonis23]

Both are same LandCruiser

[@nickg9561]

‘Holy shit handle’ Wtf lol who thought of that?

[@prateeksth1]

Quiet surprised at how Chinese products are winning the hearts of people. Comment section use to be full of hate comment for Chinese cars, it's changed lately

[@chanshuwun]

The Havel is a cheap reversed-engineered Prado. There has been report in China that the Havel suffer reliability issue in a long run. It may be great brand new, but after few years, things falling apart.

[@Elite_Txm]

Hard to put a price on??? No really....try $25k 🤔

[@barako888]

Peace of mind. Exactly!

[@oceandiu4782]

You know what Chinese Company they don’t care the Aussie market whole country = shanghai populations

[@walkerj3008]

you never be to China

[@shotsfiredandmissed9068]

you really cant go wrong with toyota's engine reliability. *cough Honda *cough GP2

[@shotsfiredandmissed9068]

well i would much prefer the well and tested for long term use anytime

[@oakfast]

Meanwhile Haval H9's are uses Toyota 5R ( Which is same as Crown ) & 2C which is also used in old Corollas