2019 Budget Genesis Shootout: Gamerz Tek MiniGen HD vs Hyperkin MegaRetron HD vs HD Retrovision

[@RoXolid]

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[@hammish79]

The gamer tek hd has a region switch on back next to the 4/3 16/9 switch

[@cbdzone5182]

where do I get everdrive and multicart at?

[@RoXolid]

castlemaniagames.com/search?q=everdrive&ref=RoXolid

[@cbdzone5182]

thank you I have another ? is there any sites to get a knock off everdrives and cheap multicarts

[@RoXolid]

@@cbdzone5182 Not that I'd recommend. Cheap electronics can damage other components. If the boards are the wrong voltage, for example, you can damage the board inside your system. If you buy cheap, you buy twice, and spend 3x the money.

[@TimDavis77]

Great video, by the way. The way you had the audio and video of the two clones compared to the original hardware was well done.

[@budd.8060]

I was looking to buy one of these. Thanks for the info. Btw, love the channel, keep up the great work.

[@RoXolid]

Thank you so much!

[@thegirdybird]

Love your clone console videos. The best on KZbin.

[@RoXolid]

Well that's very humbling to hear, thank you. There are a lot of great content creators out there.

[@thegirdybird]

Indeed. All of you guys are great.

[@RoXolid]

Well thanks again

[@jmream2618]

@@RoXolid do u own genesis mini from ATgames

[@flywheels]

This was a good comparison video Gary. I’ve been following you across all your social media platforms for awhile now and I love how far you’ve come. While I’m not in the market for either of these, I did enjoy the side by side comparisons. Keep up the great work!

[@RoXolid]

Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate it!

[@LindaTheGAMERGal]

Awesome video! This is so good!

[@RoXolid]

Thank you Linda. This was a slightly different format for me, I hoped people would like it.

[@mochico88]

Watched the Hyperkin HD video vs HD Retrovision and this one and HD Retrovision in both cases is the clear winner for me. Need to get one soon. Excellent videos!

[@RoXolid]

Thanks for checking it out and the kind words!

[@ecmyersvids]

Finally checked this out. You've really taken your reviews to the next level!

[@RoXolid]

I really appreciate that, it's always scary to try new things, messing with a working formula, but I appreciate it

[@Pridetoons]

I'm 4 months late but thanks for posting this video.

[@RoXolid]

Thank you for taking the time to check it out!

[@braddahl2098]

The sound quality difference is nearly a match to how the NES versions compare to each other from these brands. And of course the hyperkin color pallette issues too on NES! Great video Gary!

[@tbakun]

Great video - loved the audio/video comparisons between the three systems! I bought the Minigen HD last year as I really liked the Gamerztek 8-Bit HD clone console that they releaesed. I also was unaware that Hyperkin was going to bring the Megaretron HD to market or else I would have tried to be a little more patient with my purchase. That being said, I am pretty happy with my purchase. I am a Genesis noob so I am not as familiar with what any of the games should sound like. I also do like that the Minigen HD comes with two controllers but I am very interested in giving the Hyperkin one a try so I may have to get one of those for comparison purposes! Keep up the great work!

[@RoXolid]

Thanks Trip! I don't think if I didn't have them side by side by side I'd mind the looks or sound. But side-by-side you really see and hear differences. Did you get anything good at the swap meet this weekend?

[@tbakun]

@@RoXolid And I just ordered a Squire from Castlemania Games!

[@RoXolid]

@@tbakun Oh sweet, it's really good! Also, since you're a Patreon supporter there's something new I JUST Posted a few minutes ago you might be interested in!!!

[@robertpeacock894]

The Hyperkin Genesis is so nice, I purchased a NES and SNES version of it.

[@RoXolid]

Glad you like it! I'm not a huge fan of the Retron HD, I just think the audio is too off myself.

[@TheEarthRealm]

5:35 - The MegaRetron HD looks like a black Sega Dreamcast-esque console. ♡

[@RoXolid]

I can see that

[@nintendylan7449]

Thanks for making this video! We were talking about this on the live stream and now I know what to get and it’s obviously the mega retron hd! ❤️

[@RoXolid]

Which stream? Something you'd like me to pop into?

[@nintendylan7449]

The Luigi’s mansion one

[@RoXolid]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH, you meant my stream! I thought you were talking about another stream!

[@nintendylan7449]

RoXolid Productions sorry I forgot to clarify 😨

[@RoXolid]

No reason to apologize, it was my confusion

[@McPoogle]

I know this is a really old video now but just discovered your vids and want to say thank you, they're really great! I'd love to get the Mega Retron HD but I've read so much about them completely failing after a short while, particularly the audio out. Only saw that after seeing the huge amounts of testimonials saying the Hyperkin HD cables do the same thing too, which is such a shame because I would love their cheap all-in-one solution for some of my consoles. How have your clones and cables held up over the years?

[@RoXolid]

Thanks so much for the kind words, I greatly appreciate it! I've not had issues myself, however, I will say I tend to use actual hardware with HD Retrovision or Insurrection Industries SCART cables going to a RetroTink2X Pro or OSSC more than I use these clone systems now. That being said, I have not had issues of them failing over time.

[@PunkOnARant]

Do either of these cloens support 4 player in J-carts, like Micro Machines?

[@RoXolid]

I don't know, I don't have any to test

[@TimDavis77]

Of the two clones, I would have to go with the Mega Retron HD as well, but until the Analogue Mega Sg is released, I'll stick to my model 1 Genesis on my PVM via SCART.

[@RoXolid]

I get that, but at the same time these are geared towards casual gamers who don't know anything about PVMs, OSSC or Framemeister, let alone SCART

[@TimDavis77]

@@RoXolid oh yeah, absolutely. For the price, it's a great clone system. I'm glad to see Sega getting some love.

[@TimDavis77]

@@RoXolid it does seem to me (and your test footage seems to bear this out as well) that emulation and clone systems seem to all struggle with audio on the Genesis for some reason. That said, these both blow that AtGames crap out of the water.

[@RoXolid]

These are in a completely different league than the atgames flashback Genesis. they both do lack a little bit on the bottom end, the Hyperkin does a slightly better job than the GamerzTek and having that deep, trademark sound, but if you weren't comparing side-by-side I don't know that you would necessarily find what either of the clones do offensive

[@smashpro1]

Of course, the Analogue Mega SG is coming out soon, but for the extra $150, the only real advantages seem to be Sega CD compatibility, marginally more accurate video and audio, and adaptors for other Sega systems.

[@RoXolid]

Correct, but I wouldn't classify that as budget friendly like the other 2 here.

[@vga1232]

Nothing marginally about it. The two clone consoles in this video sounded atrocious in this video.

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

@@vga1232 agreed. there is nothing marginally about it. The mega SG can play games that these systems can't play. You pay for what you get. Not only is the audio and video vastly superior, but it has more features and it plays just about every game out there including virtua racing, gargoyles and homebrew games.

[@ocha-time]

To my recollection I do not remember the Hyperkin Genesis sounding that warbly when playing Sonic on it. Was there maybe a recording issue?

[@RoXolid]

There was not

[@MrStevo808]

That comment about lag during the Mickey Mania section, was that meant in terms of audio lag?

[@RoXolid]

I honestly don't recall, can you give me a timestamp and I will look into it?

[@MrStevo808]

@@RoXolid 09:12

[@RoXolid]

@@MrStevo808 Got it, that was referencing a bit of control lag/latency, not audio

[@xieliming]

FWIW Mega Retron HD does not properly render shadow/highlight effects. This adversely impacts games like Vectorman and Ranger X and does impact gameplay e.g. Ranger X stage 2 uses these effects for the cave lights that protects you from enemies. I suspect this is the case for other clones as well. If it weren't for this issue I would have kept the Mega Retron HD.

[@RoXolid]

Good to know, thanks!

[@vadergamer453]

Awesome show down of the clones systems.... Original hardware is always better..... And the retro bit component cables make the sega genesis even more awesome!! Sega 4 Life

[@RoXolid]

I'm glad you liked it

[@vadergamer453]

@ResidentXombie i know....been a sega genesis since 1989...my first bought game for the system was mickey mouse and the castle of illusion...best game ever....

[@RoXolid]

I think that's a really great game too! One of my favorites!

[@megadan2988]

ill go with the hyperkin!!!! that sound was way better on the HD though. The Hyperkin console looks sick. Awesome video man

[@RoXolid]

Please don't ban me :)

[@mattnova18]

Fallout games in Tempe, AZ has the minigen hd [and most the other gamerz tek stuff]

[@RoXolid]

That's their home base of operations if I remember correctly from my conversations with them. I want them to be in more stores, I think they have a very good product line. I just wish more people had access to actually see them and touch them in store, know what I mean?

[@SNEStalgia]

I've been looking to get into Genesis, I'm going to have to pick up the MegaRetron HD

[@bga001]

Hey man, nice video! You create some excellent content! So... Have you been able to test the systems with a large memory game? Like super street fighter, or pier solar? See ya

[@RoXolid]

Thank you so very much! I have played Street Fighter on both systems, as converted in each individual review

[@matthewjohnson1891]

I remember walking two miles to kb toys to play tetris on gameboy and one day they had altered beast on the genesis. I remember the graphics seemed daunting at the time.

[@matthewjohnson1891]

If you play raiden trad on the mega retron hd the bass sounds killer

[@matthewdaniels1588]

Can you save games on these systems?.... Need a review for that.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Games save on the cartridge, not the system. It doesn't matter what system you use as long as the cartridge battery is working.

[@Andi9N]

I run with my Mega Drive 1 with 50/60hz mod on an OSSC and hope it will stay alive for a long, long time.

[@48hourrecordsteam45]

1.Give us the list of equipment used 2.the brand /type /size of TV 3.MODS used in the oem system

[@RoXolid]

1 - This is covered in the copy and in the video 2 - Irrelevant. The video output from the systems goes to the EZ Cap 284 before the TV. What I am viewing on doesn't matter when comparing the raw footage. 3 - Model 2 Genesis, donated to the channel, with an S-video and audio mod kit. You can learn more about the system in use by checking out this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opzJdHiuYq52a9k

[@OtakuDYT]

Really want to get a genesis console but I am so conflicted, we don't have any retro consoles or games over here and international shipping is rough so I'm only going to make one purchase for the foreseeable future. I love the idea of the Retro-Bit Trio Plus but the mono sound makes me a bit sad, though being able to play SNES games (a system that was never sold here) would be an amazing treat! The Hyperkin Mega Retron HD looks amazing though, with how small the pics are in the video it's difficult to see how sharp the picture is, is it blurry at all? Maybe the better purchase for me would be this one and a stand-alone SNES too. Anyways I love the videos, thanks again! 😁

[@RoXolid]

I would highly recommend the mega retron HD if you are looking to go with the clone HDMI system. It works really well. And it's not blurry. If you'd like, castlemania games will ship internationally.

[@SkyScourgeGod]

The Mega Retron HD is definitely the better clone. I have one and I've been enjoying it quite a lot. Since we're on the subject of awesome Sega products, did you hear that Retro Fighters is making a modern Genesis controller that will be built to work on both the Genesis and Saturn with 3D controller elements designed in? If not, I would look into it. It may make a good topic for another video on your channel. ;)

[@RoXolid]

I did, I actually got an email from them about some other news and that was also in there!

[@SkyScourgeGod]

Awesome! I look forward to hearing your opinions on it as well as the "other" news you speak of.

[@dennismolina9033]

I have it, it's nice playing retro games in today's modern era, the only thing is i wish it had a turbo feature but it's a hot controller!

[@reagandow850]

Great video. Not a surprise outcome at all but it’s good to know for sure!!

[@RoXolid]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@wallybescotty]

HD Retrovision looks the best to me. what all modifications have been done to the one you have with the CD addon?

[@RoXolid]

I was gifted the Model 2 Genesis so I don't know everything which was done. I know it has the Svideo mod but don't know beyond that

[@RussLyman]

great comparisons on the systems. I def like the look of the original genesis for sure, even though model 2 is sleek and sexy ha . I need to put more time into earthworm jim on the sega for sure

[@RoXolid]

Thanks Russ! This had a slightly different approach to how I edited this piece, I'm hoping people liked it.

[@johnd1616]

Will that everdrive cartridge play in the model 2 Genesis??🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@RoXolid]

I'll 99% sure I've played it in there, but I'll double check John

[@Bro-cx2jc]

The Minigen HD here must have been an older model. The sound on the one I just got today is like the HD Retro Game, not perfect and with a little extra volume on the PSG, but fine. Sonic sounds good on it, so the one in the video definitely is outdated. It also has a J/O switch on the back now, I guess yours didn't have it either. I'm glad they updated stuff on it. Audio's in mono on the Minigen HD, which some people will hate, but I never minded it. It still distorts with the heavy bass in games like Streets of Rage and Mega Man: The Wily Wars though.

[@RoXolid]

My MIniGen HD was a launch edition

[@Bro-cx2jc]

@@RoXolid Good to know they care about the product enough to improve it. I think the HD Retro Game was discontinued, and the rebrand called the Retroad went off for a while, but it looks like that's finally back. I shouldn't get one though, I have too many knockoff Mega Drives as it is XD

[@Mets_xx_Fan_01]

does the minigen hd play the game addams family with the game genie?

[@RoXolid]

Not sure, I don't own it to test

[@iUseAndroid2024]

Are either of them compatible with the 32X?

[@RoXolid]

No as none of them have the AV In/Out of the original hardware

[@starconnolly6740]

I liked the mega retron hd better I liked the way it looks and its sounds better so I would totally buy it

[@RoXolid]

It is definitely a good budget friendly system

[@starconnolly6740]

@@RoXolid I found it on Ebay and I bought it and I bought two games for it toy story and Aladdin for it and I'm excited to get it and play it

[@ced214]

Does the mega retron work with the new Terrion MegaSd

[@RoXolid]

I'm not familiar with that device, sorry

[@EmperorOfTigers]

I have to say seeing both in action the Hyperkin seems the better option by far. I actually really want to get one especially for playing my NTSC imports etc. I have the original PAL Mega Drive with RGB but it makes some games aloe due to being PAL and it's very grainy.

[@RoXolid]

For the money it's a really good investment, especially for what you're looking to do.

[@EmperorOfTigers]

@@RoXolid Awesome. I thought so too. Just hoping someone in the EU actual sell it at somepoint.

[@RoXolid]

Castlemania Ryan will ship internationally

[@EmperorOfTigers]

@@RoXolid He does and I have bought from him before. He does a great job. The issue is that the UK charges high customs so it nearly doubles the price of the item.

[@RoXolid]

I understand that!

[@gregdunlap7538]

To me, the original Genesis looks and sounds way better. (Sounds like you had a Mega-Amp installed in it, which really helps out a model 2.) The OSSC is certainly pricey, but you can use it with lots of other consoles so in a way the cost is spread out among them.

[@RoXolid]

To a point, but I've not been happy with the way the OSSC handles Nintendo consoles. For the casual player who just wants something simple that works, there's merit to these systems

[@johnd1616]

Thanks Gary,I would love to get a everdrive for my model 2🙂🙂🙂

[@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera]

That's a awesome video my friend. The Megatron hd by hyperkin is much better than the gamerstak. But of course I perfer the real Genesis Hardware. But the Megatron is spot on I have to say. Once again is just opinions. To Megatron hd is the better clone Genesis but then again is the real hardware is the winner. Of course you can test the Genesis without earthworm Jim. The big plus is the Megatron hd can play viurta race while the gamerstak do not. Of course both clones console do not work with Sega CD and 32x. Otherwise Megatron hd is spot on as the real. Genesis.

[@RoXolid]

They are both good systems, but the Mega Retron does have that extra little something across the board.

[@randtmancave848]

U should try the retro freak

[@RoXolid]

I don't think the Retro freak is in production anymore, is it?

[@francorottier8221]

Does the game saves on levels?

[@RoXolid]

Which game are you referring to?

[@francorottier8221]

@@RoXolid in general I mean I haven't played in a while but I remember in sonic 3 I believe you had some levels that kept as your progress went on?

[@RoXolid]

Not that I recall

[@Bro-cx2jc]

@@francorottier8221 Games save on the cartridge. It doesn't matter what system you use.

[@cloudair4154]

wow that sound for sonic on the clones was pretty bad.. not bad enough to make them a bad purchase, but noticeable

[@74bobby]

Great Video Man! Me I would get the Retron HD..

[@RoXolid]

Thanks so much!

[@ginovavienne7581]

That HD retrvision

[@RoXolid]

It's amazing, isn't it!

[@wyldelf2685]

Minigen gamepad looks identical to Sega 6- button , , but the mega Retron has way longer cord , , the shape of mega Retron gamepad shape is ODD looks like they tried to combine a Genesis controller with a SATURN controller , , ,hmmm 🤔😸 overall my pic would have to be Mega Retron HD because it can run Virtua Racing , , , even Genesis 3 console can't do that , , , keep rocking Rox 👽👍👍

[@cadenmonier218]

The hyperkin megaretron hd sounded the coolest

[@RoXolid]

It does a decent job for the money

[@pauljennings8432]

Yeah I like these type of videos, I've heard that the genesis model 2 is not a good variation of the console. To save money Sega dumbed down the sound chips of the genesis they even started to do this on the first model. So any companies that can successfully make their clone consoles sounding good get my vote. However I was hopeful that the Mini Gen would do well as it looks good.

[@RoXolid]

Thanks Paul!

[@jmream2618]

I own the Genesis mini from ATgames

[@RoXolid]

AtGames didn't make the Genesis Mini, that was Sega themselves. But AtGames did build an HDMI-equipped clone system that could play pre-loaded ROMs and cartridges

[@jeremiahherron5895]

well, you see this is hard for me to decide while the hyperkin is better in my opinion from what I saw but at 17 more dollars than the minigen is definitely more my speed from 2 reasons 1 price 2. I am new to this hole retro thang was not around during the '90s so if it's, not 100% right I don't really care

[@jeremiahherron5895]

minigen aka gamerz tek

[@RoXolid]

Both are really good systems. I'd say the main thing is how important is Virtua Racing. If not at all the Mini Gen HD is good. If important know that it won't play in the Mini Gen

[@jeremiahherron5895]

@@RoXolidProductions yes I saw this however I don't like racing games never have never will ...

[@jeremiahherron5895]

and yes I have played racing games so...

[@RoXolid]

@@jeremiahherron5895 Then the GamerzTek will be great

[@cloudair4154]

if u get another game for 32x i say get knuckles chaotix.. its really good.. i had it back in like 95.. best 2d "sonic" game imo... the mechanics take some getting used to but once you get it, it's really fun

[@sparkster7744]

Why do these cheap clone consoles always have terrible audio :/

[@RoXolid]

It's the System on a Chip setup. Unlike an FPGA it just doesn't replicate the audio correctly

[@sparkster7744]

@@RoXolid yeah, but this system has been cloned since the mid 90's... by 2020 they should have figured it out. They're just avoiding spending money on R&D by using the cheapest crap available

[@RoXolid]

@@sparkster7744 you should also keep in mind that the Target customer for this type of item just wants it to work. Things like having the pallets being off or sound being off isn't as big of a deal to this target audience as a hardcore retro gamer. If you know what an fpga or an osc is, you've already surpassed this system

[@sparkster7744]

@@RoXolid You're right, I guess a regular consumer wouldn't tell the difference and most importantly it's not Atgames levels of bad

[@Bro-cx2jc]

I'm skeptical about the accuracy of the Minigen HD audio, unless he had an older model of it. I just got mine today and though it can't handle all the deep percussion and has slightly high PSG, Sonic sounded way better than this video showed.

[@urbanmidnight1]

Hands down the MD had better games, better tech and was released years before the Snes. It's CPU was so quick It could do scrolling effects in software no mode 7 chips needed.

[@RoXolid]

The Mega Drive/Genesis had a good library, but I would not say it was better than the SNES'

[@cbdzone5182]

@@RoXolid snes is for kids ..genesis for teen/adults

[@leonogueira1636]

As a retro console collector I have to say , your Sega Gênesis model 1 it’s not plugged true the best connections! You did the comparison in the worse connection possible composite on the genesis it’s REALY BAD! , the best way to connect the genesis it’s true RGB or S-video , and also the controllers the hyperkin it shape like a Sega Saturn controller model 2 , and the minigen the control shape like the genesis 2

[@RoXolid]

I didn't use composite on the Model 2 Genesis, I used HD Retrovision component video cables, pretty well respected for their quality. Also the OSSC doesn't accept Composite inputs, you have to use component, VGA or SCART. Since SCART isn't common in the USA, even though I have SCART cables, I used Component due to the fact you can hook those directly into your television.

[@user-rd5wj2mm8n]

Actually, the Sega Genesis 3 produces a good composite picture. Via the Retrotink the results are very nice. Obviously RGB/component is vastly superior, but saying all Sega Genesis produce bad composite is strictly inaccurate.

[@SumDumGy]

I’ll never buy another Hyperlag console. The winner is the Analogue SG!

[@NoSpamForYou]

Get Mister and you don't need overpriced cables or an OSSC

[@RoXolid]

Unless you don't like pirating games and would rather have a physical collection.