2019 Corvette ZR1 (ZTK) vs 2018 Camaro ZL1 TRACK Comparison

[@normk5761]

Using technology to better one's self, then sharing it with all who wish to see it...well, it doesn't get much better than that.Thanks very much for all you do! And yes, the I racing league would be a blast!!

[@toddie4usa1]

Ahhh nothing like sound of a Vette to make your day better!!! 🥰

[@shrekvt]

I'm a race instructor, one of the things it looks like you could do (maybe you already do and I'm wrong?) is left foot brake in corners you don't change gears. It can save you ~0.3 a second per corner you are able to do it. Sometimes it's faster to hold a gear, bounce the redline for a second rather than changing gears, then left foot trail brake in to the corner.

[@shrekvt]

Also you need to be heavier on the brake. That car is definitely more capable than 1.2 or 1.3 g of braking, even on stock tires.

[@CWLemoine]

I actually think there might’ve been air in the lines from the bleeding and brake fluid change. KZbin comment driving instruction aside, I’m just tracking it for fun. Not going to push it past 7 or 8/10s because if I ball it up it can’t be replaced.

[@motogolf1]

I love the car videos you post! Stay safe out there!

[@stever7638]

Well done video, thanks again. The PDR data is amazing, no doubt you can get sub-1:50 with more practice.. The ZR-1 exhaust in the open almost sounds like some exotics through a tunnel...awesome. iRacing would be great, not sure if I can find time for it but definitely worth looking into.

[@justinhemsath9207]

The rate of acceleration is mind blowing just watching your speed climb like that. More car stuff is cool!

[@toddb930]

Very cool Mover! That's neat that you're able to ease your way around the track "quickly" without risking damaging the car. You can experiment with refining your technique over various portions of the track. Neat!

[@pfflyer4973]

I like the data analysis and explanation, as well as tire differences. DirtyMo channel had good coverage of the nascar eRace.

[@jameshewitt8828]

Between this and the sound of your hornet blasting past, whoah, that is the soundtrack of freedom

[@brucehearn2621]

As an instructor at my local track, I was critiquing your Corvette lap when you had the split screen. You pretty much nailed everything in your critique that I noticed. I am quite impressed at the acceleration at 150 mph. I need to stuff one of those motors into my Miata somehow. On second thought, the torque would probably twist my car into a pretzel.

[@mikes8948]

A friend of mine does track time with his ZL1. He's always been a competent street driver, and does o.k. on the track. However, he said he learned a lot about the capabilities of the car by letting a professional driver drive him around the track in his own car. Said he learned a lot about all, but especially about driving the car in further to the turn and using the brakes to their full potential..."I thought my eyeballs were going to pop out with the negative G." You might consider what a pro can show you if you haven't already. You obviously have physical gifts, you just need a good instructor.

[@FELiPES101]

Getting an instructor is going to do wonders for you. It not only will cut down on your times, but make you safer on track. It's crazy how fast an experienced driver can go in a slow car compared to an amateur in a fast car. Cool comparison anyway...thanks for the video C.W.

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Good lord I love the zr1 with the ZTK package!! I’d LOVE a c7 ZR1 . I had a 2006 LPE-606 (Lingenfeltet ) z06 Corvette and man!!! It’s massaged to 606 hp but it’s a naturally aspirated 606hp and being the LS7 7.0 liter 427 with dry sump. It was an insanely consistent, maneuverable and fast car for a 15 year old N/A car. Black exterior, wheels and solid red interior. Miss that car SO much! There’s a local guy here that used to build custom straight pipe (dual stingers for the c7 z06 out of 3.25 and my gosh it sounded soooo epic winding Up! Just before I sold it I came across a blue devil c6 zr1 and it my youngest daughter wasn’t due to be born that week I’d of bought it! The c6 zr1 prices are rock bottom now with the c8 out , 3 generations old and and of course the c6 looks pretty old now BUT they are still the rally rare. It wAs at a Cadillac realer and the sales manager came out and said yeah this z06 is nice! Me thinking “did he just cal a zr-1 blue devil a z06?’😍. 12,900 original miles and the sales manager that clearly had NO idea how rare an a risk blue devil is said they’d been sitting on it so he’d clear it out for $35k!!!!????, I shoulda done it , the ex wife and I age divorced now anyway so would t have mattered , the. At least I could take my 3 little girls out for rides! I A proud 42 year old dad of 3 beatiful daughters 3,12,13 and I say extra proud because they’d get up early for school so i could take them In the “z06” ad they call it. Always getting an afternoon call to see if u could pick them up. Definitely my daughters! Man that’s a beautiy!

[@giugnete]

You could definitely tell the ZR1 was handling better and had superior acceleration. Looks like a lot of fun.

[@lynnecheermom]

Burble Day! Thanks for the great diversion. Wasn't your Camaro your first vlog? Love the Vette!

[@CWLemoine]

Yup! VLOG #1 was me buying the ZL1!

[@txpacket]

The league would be AWESOME!

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Mover, were you referring to the Florida freedom factory. 500? Cleetus McFarland bought that racetrack and 25 retired P71 crownvice and put role cages and a bottle of nitrous oxide , was epic!

[@rmantony4781]

Nice to watch racing from a pilot's perspective. Was watching for you to pull out a checklist and locate some 130 to 145 octane av gas.

[@BaylorCorvette]

Good to see another Gulf Coast region guy. Ever make it out to MSR Houston?

[@MZ-bl6wg]

You bought your ZTK new right? Didn’t even they include the track seas up. At bomDurant with instructor when you ordered and did the bowling green pick up?

[@LIMA-tq4iz]

I know this is widely out of the video but may I ask what does the wizzo do in a tandem seat aircraft? They man the weapon systems and countermeasures but don’t fire? I really can’t find any particular answer in the internet these days.

[@knndyskful]

They definitely give you your money’s worth:) love these vids corvettes are life Yes I like the iracing idea 🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

[@TRZ0612]

Nice video. I have had many C5 & C6 Z06's and now have the SS 1LE. One things that seems to hold true is the Alpha chassis of the 6th gen. Camaro is much better behaved in the rear-end that the transverse leaf spring C5, C6, C7's Vettes. The Corvette tends to snap oversteer with a twitchy feels at the limit, while the Camaro is much more planted and stable. Did you notice the same thing? I think for front end grip and lower center of gravity , the Corvette is better, but when the suspension is loaded up and is upset mid corner , the Alpha chassis's rear-end is more confidence inspiring and stable.

[@ace_pilot_7040]

I think I got the need the need for speed ow

[@jhayeah]

Were the times as a fighter pilot better those at the police? If yes than navy or air force?

[@jackofalldenton4347]

How is the zr1 compared to the zl1 everyday driving does it feel that much faster? To justify trading my zl1 in for the zr1

[@Sweettooth187]

That ZR1 is amazing but he was definitely taking it easy on the ZL1. He could have taken most of those corners at 70mph or so easy because I've done it often in my '20 ZL1, on standard roads/highways no less.

[@almightybruce2501]

Are you gonna get the new corvette this year? The z51, 2lt!

[@CWLemoine]

Nope

[@almightybruce2501]

C.W. Lemoine aha! Your videos are great, always eagerly looking forward to the next one

[@almightybruce2501]

Hey, by the way if you ever decide to do a montage on the corvette, I’d like to recommend a song called ‘heavy metal (takin a ride)’

[@fsabau]

I'd like to see more car stuff!

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Mover, search Randy Pobst coaching and then driving zr1 ZTK all’s, he coaches an owner and I c Found his coaching really helpful . For example, I assumed the owner was braking fine. Randy said “you have a ton more brake , brake way way later !! Will literally save several seconds alone.

[@JordanDecarie25]

You can see how much stiffer the chassis of the C7 is, the Camaro looked like it was having serious front end push not sure if your tires were greasy or tires pressures were off? I had the baby version of both a 1LE 6th gen and a C7 Grandsport.

[@CWLemoine]

Tire pressures were correct but the Goodyears on the base ZL1 are no match for Cup2

[@theflyingfool]

@4.32 beer keg in boot breaks loose ;)

[@atf0013]

You feel like doing a video on all the cool cars you have owned over the years?

[@Xtube17]

About your movie series, there's this french movie, Sky Knights - Les Chevaliers du Ciel from 2005 if I remember it correctly. Can't find it on IMDB, but plenty of vids on youtube. The movie kinda sucked (like most french movies), but flying shots were impressive.

[@Zaroonkhan6071]

Do a review on Swat Kats and turbo cat which is basically a triple engine f14 tomcat please.

[@ryanbabb4857]

Get a hold of a z28 and try it. They were made for tracks

[@daverr8163]

Would you ever try motorcycle racing on the track?

[@SCVIndy]

Amazing stats available

[@johnmonti8156]

Do you race with non polarized sunglasses

[@mauricemotors8207]

Ever considered the Chevy SS mover?

[@CWLemoine]

I owned one back in 2014-15. Great car!

[@merlingt1]

Nothing against Camaros, I have owned both and loved my Camaro when I was younger but once I got my first Corvette (C5Z) I could never go back to a Camaro.

[@merlingt1]

E.B. The Corvette just feels different. I know this is subjective especially across different generations of Camaros and Corvettes but I feel like I am wearing the Corvette when I get in it. It has better visibility and better dynamics, the C5Z is probably one of the lightest Vettes at around 3,100 lb (very low center of gravity too) even if not as powerful or fast as some as today’s horsepower beasts, it is very responsive and “lively”.

[@devnull128]

I’ve gone back and forth many times. Recently in order C7, then SS 1LE, then C7 Z51, then ZL1 1LE, and now a Grand Sport. Both cars are perfect for their niche, but in slightly different niches! Love them both

[@JROC734]

You likely haven't experienced an Alpha Camaro. It's not your same ol'e Camaro built on the Fbody platform, nor is it an overweight Zeta car. Many people claim Alpha > Ybody as it gives you close to the same limits while being much more forgiving. If you were to go test drive say a GEN6 SS 1LE or ZL1 I highly doubt that you wouldn't be extremely impressed with it if you're basing your perception of what a Camaro is off of the Fbody and Zeta cars that pre-dated it.

[@MarianneD1952]

Speaking of tires.... didn't the Camaro have regular tires and the Vette have those special ones?? Can't imagine having this kind of helpful computer info back in my Autocross days!! Isn't Autocross a blast!!!?!!! Mare

[@DoradoFever]

Awesome video sir! If you are ever in Tucson (and this Corona virus shutdown is over) would love the opportunity to buy you a drink or share a bottle of Jeremiah Weed with you and pick your brain. Prior active duty enlisted now full time tech with the AZ ANG almost done with my degree and will be applying across the board for an OTS Rated slot. Your videos have helped kicked some motivation while pressing through schoolwork to get the opportunity to earn the real prize.

[@flyinbrianvids]

Hey Mover, I used to race go karts as a kid and super late mods in my teens. I know you don't go to the track much and you don't want to trash your nice car, but I have a few pointers. From the looks of it (it's kind of hard to tell on video), I think you can go much deeper going into the corners and from the looks of your brake and accelerating meters you're taking too much time going from the gas to the brake, gotta be instantaneous. Have you ever tried left foot braking, it is awkward and uncomfortable at first but you get used to it and you can instantly go from gas to braking. Not trying to bash you, just want to help you. Go deep and let that blue bullet eat! Edit, you did go from gas to brake instantaneously several times, you're not bad at all, and shit man, you'll always be faster than me going mach and shit haha.

[@CWLemoine]

Just keep in mind in addition to a $14k deductible, they'll never make another car like this again. I will always be conservative with it.

[@rob.granger]

I instructed for about 10-11 years, SCCA/PCA has good instructors, get a ride along or have an instructor hop in and show you some lines. Do a PCA drive day.

[@flyinbrianvids]

@@CWLemoine gotcha

[@CWLemoine]

I've actually done that on this track with Doug (first time out). Also worked on it during the last session. There's always room for improvement, but low 1:50s is not slow, even for a ZR1. 🤷‍♂️

[@jonallen1985]

If I could afford it I’d have both a ZL1 and ZR1 both the manual transmissions, and both all blacked out, and they would both be 2019.

[@worldtravel101]

👍

[@Mi55J4N3]

I can run laps like this... in Forza. 😏

[@dapencilshinobi]

The track limits need to be hit more and accelerate . But not bad

[@rmm2424]

Nothing turns like a vette.

[@JROC734]

What GM needs to do it throw a LT5 in a new GEN6 model and go GT500 hunting. I would say call it a Z/28 but that name needs to be left to a badarse N/A SBC. What I would really love to see is a LS7 equivalent in the new GEN5 SBC motors. Call it a LT7 with a 4" stroke and 4.125" bore and some heads that insane amounts of atmosphere and put it in the C8 Z06 and a GEN6 Z/28. That's wishful thinking on my part though. I always felt GM kind of half-stepped with the LT4 and it's small blower. Even compared to the 13-14 GT500 Trinity motor and basic Hellcat motor the LT4 just seemed outclassed. They should of thrown a TVS2300 on it instead of the small blower they used. Design the hood to fit the motor, and not the motor to fit a hood. FTW?

[@CWLemoine]

I agree!

[@DarrellHaase]

Wonder how much better the Camaro would have been with better tires. Tires make much more difference than horsepower.

[@CWLemoine]

I think sub-2:00 would be realistic with the ZL1 1LE.. Maybe 1:56-1:58 on that track.

[@RG-yn4eq]

iRacing idea, I'm in... Sorta depends on the day of the week. iRacing is just so much fun. I love running the heavy Nascar's on road circuits but not too much of that happening. V8 Supercars are great fun as well. But yea, be interested. Doing it on a Sat. or Sun early afternoon or late morning perhaps as my lifetime works on wife time. Probably can help get some drivers interested perhaps even a free broadcaster maybe, could happen, don't know. Might also work in getting some of your books out there maybe, could happen, dont' know :) Might want check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omitdqiAfqmjb6s where Dale Jr. talks about the event last week. He was actually practicing in a race I signed up in but we ended up in different splits. Are you the new signup at iRacing, I can private message you there.

[@Talisman-tb6vw]

Maybe I should let you drive my car - 750lbs lighter than a Vette, 688hp at the crank, T56 and 3.73 LSD. I heard tire squeal - meaning your tires were letting you down in the corners.

[@CWLemoine]

You didn't hear tire squeal from the ZR1

[@dapencilshinobi]

13:30 another acceleration lost 4-5 seconds .

[@CWLemoine]

What?

[@dapencilshinobi]

14:10 lost acceleration

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@GrizzAxxemann]

When they brought back the Camaro a few years ago, I really wanted one, until I sat in one. Even after fiddling with the seat and mirrors, I couldn't see much out around the car. Maybe it's years of being in trucks with a higher, commanding view that ruined me, but I'm sure there's a high-snort sports car or sports sedan out there that can put the fun back in a Sunday drive for me the way that my motorcycles did.

[@dapencilshinobi]

12:13 7 second lost

[@CWLemoine]

what?

[@eddiezatt5481]

11th commentary

[@brucehearn2621]

As an instructor at my local track, I was critiquing your Corvette lap when you had the split screen. You pretty much nailed everything in your critique that I noticed. I am quite impressed at the acceleration at 150 mph. I need to stuff one of those motors into my Miata somehow. On second thought, the torque would probably twist my car into a pretzel.

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Mover, search Randy Pobst coaching and then driving zr1 ZTK all’s, he coaches an owner and I c Found his coaching really helpful . For example, I assumed the owner was braking fine. Randy said “you have a ton more brake , brake way way later !! Will literally save several seconds alone.