2019 Porsche Macan 2.0 Turbo: Do you have to be a car guy to buy a Porsche? FIRST DRIVE REVIEW

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In driving the 2019 Porsche Macan with the 2.0 Turbo 4 Cylinder engine, MotoMan ponders the question: Do you have to be a car guy or car girl to buy a Porsche? Driving it on more realistic and daily roads in and around Mallorca, Spain, he finds some interesting answers . . .
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@1968meps
@1968meps 4 жыл бұрын
I have had the Macan Base (2019) now for 10 months, zero buyers remorse (almost bought Macan S). I live in Suburbs of a BIG city (Toronto) and has plenty of power, more than efficient with torque being plenty.
@hamemax23
@hamemax23 2 жыл бұрын
same here, long term i think the 2.0 is the best buy
@safetyforge
@safetyforge 5 жыл бұрын
You are right on the money...good thinking by Porsche. Never would have dreamed to own a Porsche. The Macan 4 cylinder made it a reality.
@sohamj6433
@sohamj6433 4 жыл бұрын
@Michel Guerrero I think it was intentional from everything I have read so far about macan. Cayenne is the bigger version.
@Kaipelana
@Kaipelana 5 жыл бұрын
When my car has gone in for servicing, I've gotten either Macan, Macan S, or Cayenne as a loaner. Never thought about getting an SUV before, but I really enjoyed these loaners. If I had to point to one thing that made them most feel like Porsches, I'd say it was the steering feel. I liked both Macans more than than the Cayenne (the one that was just discontinued). And I found the 4 cyl Macan to be the most fun to drive. It seemed more playful, more tossable than the S. Granted, it didn't sound great, and absolute power was down compared to the S, and I wasn't on a track or on roads as nice as those in Mallorca. But it was more fun on the roads that I drive on. PDK good, but wish it had a manual.
@porscheguy09
@porscheguy09 5 жыл бұрын
The 4 cylinder Macan can still be a car guys car. Cheaper base price lets you buy options that you might not be able to afford with the V6 and is easily tuned to over 300 horsepower for less than $1200.
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
exactly! I was surprised to hear MotoMan say this, but then I think he's a bit strange in some of his attitudes...
@MistahWorldwide
@MistahWorldwide 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, the Ford can reach nearly the base price of the Macan. But even then, the Ford is significantly larger and I don’t think people would cross shop a Ford ST and a Porsche. Also, badge reputation plays a big part. The people that buy a Ford ST have a bit more pride in the Ford badge than the Porsche crest. Alternatively, people that want the Porsche also want the “prestige” of the marque. But that’s just my 2 cents.
@freakincrazy6932
@freakincrazy6932 5 жыл бұрын
The Porsche you need to spend another 10k in options for it to have any decent equipment. Key to these Porsche’s is cpo.
@marcnobel3938
@marcnobel3938 5 жыл бұрын
... but the Porsche looks inside and out also way more expensive and the interieur is a different level. So I guess you can justify that.
@freakincrazy6932
@freakincrazy6932 5 жыл бұрын
Marc Nobel most Porsche cars you need to load them to get decent interior.
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely false, for most people. The base Macan with zero options is very well constructed and well appointed. I am planning to get one with only ACC, LCA, and 14-way seats as options, so only $5k in options, but I could live with one with zero options and really enjoy it. Still way better than the Ford, and most other small SUVs out there.
@DannyPorsche
@DannyPorsche 5 жыл бұрын
cba tiau same here, 2019 coming in May with 5K in options. LKA with LCA, ACC, memory package, ionizer (I’m in LA), heated steering and seats, etc. and no other car drives like it. Prove me wrong, because I drove the competition at the track along with the Macan. Not on a straigh road at 20mph on a test drive.
@Mjv2175
@Mjv2175 3 жыл бұрын
This is the trick. Just picked a Macan Turbo off CPO that is loaded. IMO tremendous value.
@jays9211
@jays9211 5 жыл бұрын
After building a four-cylinder with the appropriate options for my daughter I’m at $66,000, a far cry from a Ford Edge. The Macans Direct competition is more like a range rover evoque
@CRVgarage
@CRVgarage 5 жыл бұрын
Macan compares to Range Rover Velar.
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
I've driven both the Macan S and base Macan (2018 models), and I don't think the S is that much greater. I'm very much a driver and have owned two Panameras, but I'm planning to save the $10k to get the base Macan over the S. The base Macan still drives very well and is very fun to drive. It's false to say that people considering a 2.0 Macan don't like to drive for fun and don't enjoy good cars -- elitist and condescending, really, even though I know what you mean. I drive a car with 462 hp and enjoy that power, but hp isn't everything. And some of us do have budgets that we have to watch. And some of us won't touch another luxury car outside of Porsche, feeling that the others aren't worth all that money. I know numerous car fanatics that just can't spend more than $50k on a car; I know considerably more such fanatics personally than I know fanatics who can spend $100k (or even $70k) on a car. What I *am* willing to spend $10k more for is a Macan E-Hybrid! Can't wait til that comes out; I'll be one of the first in line to get one.
@jodelrajkumar5097
@jodelrajkumar5097 5 жыл бұрын
Are there any exterior differences between the 2019 Macan and the Macan S?
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
@@jodelrajkumar5097 As far as I can tell, only the exhaust pipes (two vs. four)
@damanjodh1
@damanjodh1 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly my dad just got a 2019 Macan 2.0 fully loaded just because he doesn’t need all that power and in Italy you have to pay € for cars with more than 250hp
@jerryc9803
@jerryc9803 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a new 2018 base Macan 2.0 turbo. I started to have some buyer's remorse over not buying the S. I went to my dealer and drove the S. It did not feel materially better, or faster than my 2.0 Macan. I'm guessing the reason might be that for all that extra money the S is only about 1 second faster than the 2.0 from 0-60.
@307skylake7
@307skylake7 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I’m replying one year later, but i’m also interested in getting a 2.0L Macan. Tell me any recommendations, experience, cost, etc. That’d help allot! Thanks.
@Novice2Expert
@Novice2Expert 5 жыл бұрын
The ford edge ST is probably overpriced and I would rather spend the extra 12K to get the Porsche minus the multitude of options that will almost double the price...lol!
@gizamlukeable
@gizamlukeable 5 жыл бұрын
The 2L is still a very capable car. After spec-ing some essential specs the price will no longer be “cheap”. There are some reviews going around regarding the 2L 2019 Macan that it sounds better then the one before and the new 3L sounds not as good as the out going model. But of course, from a stand still the 3L delivers power better.
@user-rz3qy7pq2n
@user-rz3qy7pq2n 9 ай бұрын
So after 3 years of living with a fully loaded base, I have to say its a fantastic car. I have other performance vehicles that are insanely fun to drive, but come on folks this is an SUV. If you cant afford two cars and need an SUV and need a very fast 0 to 60 , get the S or Turbo. I will say, I have driven both of those and in city driving I prefer the base, so quick and nimble but lacking sound. No regrets
@joelacroix1069
@joelacroix1069 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention I got a Macan GTS a couple months ago and f-ing love it. It makes me want to go and get another Porsche. I do think if I thought about it longer I may have gotten the Cayenne because I need a little more room and a trailer hitch. That said, this thing cruises at 90 with a 400 plus pound motorcycle hanging off the back and you don't even know it's there. so whatever model you buy make sure you get the air suspension
@hqrueck
@hqrueck 5 жыл бұрын
George: "Two less cylinders" Stannis Baratheon: "...Fewer" Sir Davos: (confused look)
@kuglepen64
@kuglepen64 5 жыл бұрын
After the infamous Porsche options you’d be pretty far from the base price.
@cuthberter
@cuthberter 5 жыл бұрын
Like it. Just a shame it’s not the 300bhp Golf R variant of the engine. I’d be happy to give us the V6 in this type of car to get the economy but it needs a little more grunt given its weight.
@MattUK36
@MattUK36 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative and entertaining review. And yes, Spain really rocks, they have impressive history and architecture, gorgeous nature and landscapes, amazing cuisine, fantastic weather, up there in the top three regarding the best infrastructures on the planet (roads, highways, fast train systems, ports, airports network...), incredible people.... what a great country Spain.
@junito1008
@junito1008 5 жыл бұрын
With a $49K starting price, the Macan will sell 300K units next year !! Lol
@keanuneo-k2w
@keanuneo-k2w 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a car guy but not a CAR guy, if that makes sense. So while I can appreciate the difference between a Q5 and the Macan, I am definitely more inclined to spend ~$60K for the base Macan instead of ~$70K for the S. So here's my question: would you say that acceleration / power in the base Macan is similar to the Q5? I'm assuming handling in the Macan is better....thanks and love your reviews.
@joeherrjr
@joeherrjr 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it is easy to find lightly used examples of high dollar vehicles. A lot of people that buy expensive vehicles have more than one and don’t put that many miles on them. Find a low milage one in near perfect condition and let the other guy pay for the depreciation. That way you can have the Porsche at Ford prices.
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
I have done this too... bought a Panamera three years after the first buyer bought it new for $98k, and I paid about $60k less for it with CPO warranty and probably enjoyed it as much as he did
@lexresmark
@lexresmark 4 жыл бұрын
My Macan would’ve been 70k with its fully loaded options..I bought it for 39k only 2 years old at 28k miles.
@joachimmagnusson3128
@joachimmagnusson3128 5 жыл бұрын
The Edge ST line costs in Germany 50000 Eur and he Macan S costs 61700 Eur. This is for the base configuration. So i think the Macan is priced differently (less Margin) in the States and therefor a much better deal than in Europe.
@filipveran2705
@filipveran2705 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, don't forget that americans quote prices without VAT and in europe we quote inclusive of VAT.
@britishentertainment7610
@britishentertainment7610 5 жыл бұрын
Neighbour got one for 59.000$ it is bare equiped but has all that it needed. 2.0, 19 inch wheels, esp, ac, leather seats.
@robertdevoy3119
@robertdevoy3119 5 жыл бұрын
Simple answer is Porsche Macan provides prestige and bragging rights the Ford Edge does not. Especially, to your less well healed friends and associates. My guess is very few of those who can afford the Porsche will even test drive the Edge no matter how well it compares to the Macan.
@menovive
@menovive 5 жыл бұрын
Heard it uses the new q5 engine. Sad porsche should stay where they are and should not come down. Rather they should work on fixing the engine leaks, transmission problems etc. As in make it more sturdy and durable and not get into rat race.
@davidplon9215
@davidplon9215 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion if your a soccer parent and your schlepping around kiddies and really are not a car man or gal then i guess the 4 cylinder is adequate. Me, I love to drive and like a car with power to spare and am willing to pay extra for it. But some people it doesn't excite them and I guess can understand that perspective also. I think 4 cylinder cars are a compromise to some degree to try and get performance as well as fuel economy!
@herbertwaters1942
@herbertwaters1942 5 жыл бұрын
You are on point with your comments about the Porsche Macan 2.0 Turbo.
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 5 жыл бұрын
Same price as an ST Edge? Yeah, because everyone who buys a base model Porsche loads it up with absolutely nothing, right? Or do they add a third of the MSRP in upgrades and optionals? Any company that can charge $600 to supply the standard key fob in a different colored plastic is laughing all the way to the Kings new clothes bank... just my POV (ex Porsche owner).
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 5 жыл бұрын
not right, Richard Dunn... I'm ordering base Macan 2019 and adding in options under $5k that enhance driving, like blind-spot warning, adaptive cruise control, 14-way power seats (which include heated front seats with lumbar support and power-telescoping steering wheel, etc.), and windshield (non-air) heater. Yes, there are cheaper cars with these things standard, but you don't get the driving dynamics that you get with a Macan. So it's false that you have to add on $10k or $15k or $20k in options. And I've test-driven a base Macan and a Macan S, and I don't find the difference to be that great like MotoMan says; if you want to go really fast really quickly, I think you don't so much as get a larger motor as that you go for a sports car over an SUV.
@casudhoff
@casudhoff 5 жыл бұрын
Great point regarding costs. I've been saying this for some time. The US brands are priced way too high compared to Euros!
@paulgudedeberitz2335
@paulgudedeberitz2335 5 жыл бұрын
It is understandable that both Ford and Porsche tries to expand their customer base and increase their market share by providing a wider range of models in small enough increments as to not turn away their existing customers. Fast Fords are not something new, and they are often popular with car people although they don't infer status. Economy variations of Porsche is more of a balancing act because they need to be considerably more expensive than the VW and Skoda models they share platform with in order to uphold the Porsche brand status. At the same time the Porsche must avoid to appear overpriced by comparison so the finish and driving dynamics must be superior.
@opptestseven1098
@opptestseven1098 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very informative
@bshwayde
@bshwayde 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a more interesting thing to ponder is whether the Audi Q5 or the base Macan is the better buy. They have the same engine and same MLB architecture and are probably within 10% in price.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 5 жыл бұрын
Driven both . . . I remember my first impression of the Macan back in 2015 . . . Shocked that it was based on the same architecture . . . It is MILES different and much better in terms of driving dynamics.
@indykalia8224
@indykalia8224 5 жыл бұрын
Is this a small SUV or is it a jacked up hatchback! Porsche could have tricked us all!
@hansfuhrmann3270
@hansfuhrmann3270 5 жыл бұрын
He went to Spain for that ????
@alpenjodel24
@alpenjodel24 5 жыл бұрын
I love your dogs lol.
@opptestseven1098
@opptestseven1098 5 жыл бұрын
nice review an very informative
@opptestseven1098
@opptestseven1098 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid and information
@TC-ps9sd
@TC-ps9sd 5 жыл бұрын
Matt - on a tangent, but I know you're considering a 77" OLED. Do you think the Sony (which uses the LG panel) is worth the $1k premium for the signal processing?
@dam4274
@dam4274 4 жыл бұрын
You’re right on.
@SpringdalepreetPannu
@SpringdalepreetPannu 5 жыл бұрын
Does the base have full leather, heated front and rear seats, navigation system, bluetooth, cooled front seats, automatic rear trunck?
@eliearabs
@eliearabs 5 жыл бұрын
your right on point my friend!
@thabisomaleka3933
@thabisomaleka3933 5 жыл бұрын
Now I want the V6 Macan S over the 911 🙆🏽‍♂️
@joelacroix1069
@joelacroix1069 5 жыл бұрын
Moto Man, I love all your videos and reviews, and most of all I love that you include your doggies in the videos. You are a great reviewer but you could be a crap reviewer and still have my vote because of your love of doggies
@Thelnformer1
@Thelnformer1 2 жыл бұрын
What color is this?
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 5 жыл бұрын
You would think Porsche would at least give the 4 cylinder version the same engine as the 718... or even the Golf R. What a bunch of wankers giving a 248hp version to us..
@TheHomeExpert5
@TheHomeExpert5 3 жыл бұрын
Does the base 4-cylinder Macan have mechanical issues?
@henrybeneke3366
@henrybeneke3366 3 жыл бұрын
Not one the V6 leaks oil like an old Harley.
@TheHomeExpert5
@TheHomeExpert5 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrybeneke3366 I have heard rumors that there is carbon buildup in the 4-cylinder engines.......
@fahadalswailem3221
@fahadalswailem3221 5 жыл бұрын
Does this have air suspension on it
@thomasng3556
@thomasng3556 5 жыл бұрын
Why even bring up the word FORD when you are driving a Porsche? Do you go to McDonalds when you want a fancy candlelight dinner with German wine ? The Macan should be compared with the X3, Q5 and F Pace only.
@sunnohh
@sunnohh 2 жыл бұрын
But what if your a car guy and just want a cheap ish Porsche?
@jodelrajkumar5097
@jodelrajkumar5097 5 жыл бұрын
Are there any exterior differences between the 2019 Macan and the Macan S?
@patrickcloutier1571
@patrickcloutier1571 3 жыл бұрын
Caliper and exhaust
@h0lyhandgrenade
@h0lyhandgrenade 4 жыл бұрын
I would not have flown across the pond to drive that 4 cyl. A new GTS or Turbo maybe. On top of it, the efficient thing you keep mentioning... it’s not. Virtually the same mpg city and highway because of the weight that engine has to strain to move.
@GY9944
@GY9944 5 жыл бұрын
Those places you sit and talk about the topic; the garage in this video or the airplane hangar looking place in other videos, are those your own workplaces or sth ? 'Cuz if so, you're one of the luckiest men on earth. They look fantastic and definitely a blast to spend time in !
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words . . . To answer your question: The hangar (a/k/a MotoMan Studio A) is our home base. The garage you see in this episode is a friend's garage up in Canada. He is my Targa Newfoundland teammate - Rob Pacione. You can see the entire series here: kzbin.info/aero/PLF6ek7dWy48oWZMx-BTjTzOVOpVMr4b7V
@GY9944
@GY9944 5 жыл бұрын
MotoManTV oh neat ! And thanks for the reply
@speedrcer1
@speedrcer1 5 жыл бұрын
I own a 2016 MB 250 GLA that has a 2.0 Turbo. (I think of it at a big Golf GTI Almost R w/ awd) A Macan with a 2.0T at 49K. I had hopes it would come down to GLA pricing as I love Porsche. But 49K is stupid. I bet they end up leasing for $375/mo.
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 5 жыл бұрын
leave some cash for shoes.
@NickKouidis
@NickKouidis 5 жыл бұрын
@1:24 "Plenty of power" .... ? A Porsche that needs 25 seconds to go from 100 Km to 200 Km is not a Porsche... The Porsche "evolution" did not include the engine.
@SS-ug1qy
@SS-ug1qy 5 жыл бұрын
My friends, you and I agree that there should not be 4 cylinder Porsche’s ever.
@emreaydin5434
@emreaydin5434 5 жыл бұрын
What about EV or hybrid?
@christophercurson8299
@christophercurson8299 5 жыл бұрын
Ferry Porsche clearly disagreed....The very first Porsche (356) used a VW 4 cylinder engine....the early 911 had 4 cylinder engine...and the 912....and the 914......and the 924....and the 944....and the current 718 Cayman and Boxster (granted they are Porsche’s own flat 4’s) so 4 cylinder engines are actually very much in Porsche’s DNA
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 3 жыл бұрын
@@christophercurson8299 and the 968!😎
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 5 жыл бұрын
The base Macan is kind of a dog compared to the S.
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