2019 Volkswagen Arteon - The Budget Audi A7?

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@lancegarcia7599
@lancegarcia7599 5 жыл бұрын
I'm no Volkswagen fan, but that is a good looking car.
@DigitalDissident
@DigitalDissident 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, but the 4 cylinder engine is lame. Something that looks like this from VW would make a nice full electric in the future
@derpdudedatboi7455
@derpdudedatboi7455 5 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalDissident I really wish that the Arteon was electric too.
@ramennoodlz
@ramennoodlz 5 жыл бұрын
derpdude dat boi this car looks like it should be an electric car, especially with the front grill, wait is there such a thing as an electric looking car or am I making that up?
@kowicz_comedy3625
@kowicz_comedy3625 5 жыл бұрын
@@derpdudedatboi7455 noch please no full electric for this beauty
@derpdudedatboi7455
@derpdudedatboi7455 5 жыл бұрын
@@kowicz_comedy3625 Why not? It's a sleek car that would get instant torque, making it feel faster. And it would be dead silent, which makes it more luxurious.
@Uziavenger
@Uziavenger 5 жыл бұрын
That's the best looking VW I've ever seen. It's definitely one of the best looking sedans available today
@tomasstraka5244
@tomasstraka5244 5 жыл бұрын
only if it had some normal engines to choose from ;) 3,6 v6 would be nice
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 5 жыл бұрын
I am still pretty set on the legacy 3.6r or the xt for 2020. I like how large it is for its size. Inexpensive for what you get and they hold their value like crazy.
@InvestAndGrow2020
@InvestAndGrow2020 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Wallenstone66
@Wallenstone66 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the new Peugeot 508 (2019) design much more.
@jerkloveryounow2468
@jerkloveryounow2468 5 жыл бұрын
Its a hatchback
@jordancatcher6663
@jordancatcher6663 5 жыл бұрын
A new Volkswagen that doesn't look like it's from 2011 , WOW 😍😍😍
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 5 жыл бұрын
No, not 2011, but it is from 2017 :). Took 2 years to get here. Imagine how fresh it would have looked then.
@SquidCena
@SquidCena 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with 2011 cars?
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 5 жыл бұрын
@James Wisrik what? KIA's designer used to design Audi and others for the VW group. VW design came first. The Arteon has been out for at least 2 years now in Europe.
@dshu15
@dshu15 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the interior does... I leased a 2013 Passat which was 6 years ago, and the interior of the Arteon is virtually identical. Such a shame!
@chrishall1864
@chrishall1864 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Catcher you’re right. Looks like my 2012 CC
@AlexSchwartzATV
@AlexSchwartzATV 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a non boring VW. This looks beautiful inside and out
@smitrj1916
@smitrj1916 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait when this car is 15k in two years
@supremecarnage5071
@supremecarnage5071 4 жыл бұрын
Dammm
@instasingingvids3529
@instasingingvids3529 4 жыл бұрын
Smitrj19 100% accurate
@nishhnishh1088
@nishhnishh1088 4 жыл бұрын
More like 5 years
@robertchen5249
@robertchen5249 4 жыл бұрын
It’s already around 18k
@robertchen5249
@robertchen5249 4 жыл бұрын
Kit Kefner I’m from the UK
@jax1079
@jax1079 5 жыл бұрын
I've got to admit it: that's a damn good looking car. Great review!
@deskubrir
@deskubrir 5 жыл бұрын
From the price and body style standpoint, this VW Arteon compares to the 2020 Benz CLA; I love VW, but I would pick the new CLA this time.
@supersecularboypants
@supersecularboypants 5 жыл бұрын
The CC looks better from the back IMO. Atleast at night, that car has the best looking rear end of any vehicles in it’s price range. It’s absolutely gorgeous, comparing it to this new arteon.
@heyitsme939
@heyitsme939 5 жыл бұрын
@@supersecularboypants people who are saying how good looking this car is must've never seen the CC. yes, I think this is better looking than the cc of course, but they're acting like this is the first time VW has made a car that doesn't look bland.
@supersecularboypants
@supersecularboypants 5 жыл бұрын
@@heyitsme939 Exactly. As another person pointed out, the CC suffered across it's lifespan due to the fact that it was always looked at as a Passat CC, never as it's own model, the CC. It was always "that Passat spec". Didn't make the CC stand out as much, but it really was an exciting car compared to other cars in the volkswagen lineup.
@lemsong8499
@lemsong8499 5 жыл бұрын
JAX come on
@TBTrade
@TBTrade 5 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with the car when he opened the trunk
@theonewhostandsaboveall
@theonewhostandsaboveall 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY !!
@braden3578
@braden3578 5 жыл бұрын
The Buick Regal
@Anonymous0.019
@Anonymous0.019 5 жыл бұрын
Started imagining all the bodies you can fit in there? 😂
@YasumotoUS
@YasumotoUS 5 жыл бұрын
Yaassss. The hatch trunk is executed so well in this design. I so wish that Honda had iterated on their Countor version of the Accord. At least Kia and VW have carried the torch.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
​@@YasumotoUS Funny you should mention the Contour. Saw one yesterday. It was a vehicle slightly ahead of its time but the design was executed so poorly that it looked like the hunchback of Notre Dame.
@oscarlopez5122
@oscarlopez5122 5 жыл бұрын
50k is too much money for a loaded Arteon with the same 2.0 268HP engine you get in the entry level ones. Just my personal Opinion.
@s.ljones6824
@s.ljones6824 5 жыл бұрын
Good point
@normt5463
@normt5463 5 жыл бұрын
You can into a Regal Sportback 2.0T FWD for around $20K.
@f181234
@f181234 5 жыл бұрын
Norm T that’s a base model
@normt5463
@normt5463 5 жыл бұрын
@@f181234 only $27K for a Regal Sportback 2.0T Essence trim. Or under $30K foe AWD. Much better deal than Accord 2.0T 10-speed!
@brunotonello8522
@brunotonello8522 5 жыл бұрын
@@normt5463 Manufacturer is having to give heavy discounts so they roll off the lots. Also you get what you pay for. As the host has said in this video the VW Arteon is more refined and handles better than the Buick. I'll go with his recommendations, since he is rarely wrong and always knowledgeable and prepared.
@Drakin_
@Drakin_ 5 жыл бұрын
The Budget Audi A7 Volkswagen: Am i a joke to you?
@britneyrichardson1729
@britneyrichardson1729 5 жыл бұрын
Vw owns audi
@hamzamjidila3153
@hamzamjidila3153 5 жыл бұрын
i mean vw makes great cars and i really like them, but audi it’s on another level so no need to compare
@deandretaylor21
@deandretaylor21 5 жыл бұрын
@@hamzamjidila3153 ur dumb af
@MrBusterpalmer
@MrBusterpalmer 4 жыл бұрын
They are the same lol
@brianreardon7700
@brianreardon7700 4 жыл бұрын
Ah I test drove a 2019 golf r dsg and a 2018 Audi s3 same hp same mqb platform.. felt like the same car! Lol.. were is this other level..I guess in other cars you mean?
@genewaller1002
@genewaller1002 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Arteon R white with the black top and have received more compliments then any car I have ever owned. It really turnes the heads.
@marco1173
@marco1173 5 жыл бұрын
I really can't picture this car in any other color. It's a stunning ride. Just beautiful. Great job, VW!
@chazzftw9313
@chazzftw9313 5 жыл бұрын
TrollBuster I could maybe see it in a blue or red but it would have to be bright
@leeeinfield
@leeeinfield 5 жыл бұрын
The white actually looks pretty good too specially with the black wheels
@marco1173
@marco1173 5 жыл бұрын
leeeinfield That actually sounds like a great combination. I wonder if it’s a pure white or something a little more pearly.
@MrJsyed
@MrJsyed 5 жыл бұрын
It's meant to be a cheaper alternative to the A5 Sportback.
@davosworks
@davosworks 5 жыл бұрын
A5 is too small compared to Arteon.
@davosworks
@davosworks 5 жыл бұрын
Ucanthandle Eit lol no, Arteon is bigger than even A7.
@davosworks
@davosworks 5 жыл бұрын
@@McBeakerson i see. lol when I was side by side (CC and A7) CC looked longer. But A5 is much smaller (A5-4712 vs VW-4864 vs A7-4969) There are comparsions with A5, and u can see how small a Trunk is in the A5 compared to an Arteon
@MrJsyed
@MrJsyed 5 жыл бұрын
The wheelbase of the A5 Sportback and Arteon are virtually the same 111.2-111.9 inches. The A7 has a wheelbase of 115.2, so the Arteon is not near the A7.
@matthews95_
@matthews95_ 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love this car. I'd only buy it a few years old and hopefully there's some warranty left on it - worried bout that VW reliability (I'm a Lexus/Toyota guy)
@nexus-qb3bu
@nexus-qb3bu 5 жыл бұрын
Five, explain the reliability issue for VW. What do you consider to be a reliability issue?
@tommydo961
@tommydo961 4 жыл бұрын
nexus if you have to fix anything other than oil change and regular maintainence in 5 years 100k miles , it’s unreliable period.
@jimquantic
@jimquantic 4 жыл бұрын
@@nexus-qb3bu Well, every consumer report I have EVER read cites electrical, just as one, of many examples. Honestly, it seems an odd question, the reliability is a long standing issue--now TODAY, maybe the problems are way behind them--but you won't know for years, will you?
@hugof3243
@hugof3243 4 жыл бұрын
VW is one of the most reliable brands in the world
@IvanBosnjak89
@IvanBosnjak89 3 жыл бұрын
The Arteon does have the Golf R engine, it's just detuned. As an owner of a DSG, I'm happy to see the Aisin in the Arteon, as it's way smoother and matches the character of the car better.
@Tallandcharming
@Tallandcharming 5 жыл бұрын
I bought my Arteon R Line in November last year here in Australia, 4 Motion, 2.0turbo. I’ve since added RaceChip (a great product I’ve had on my old BMW 4 series). The car now has 335HP and huge torque, 0-60 sub 5 seconds. I love the interior space and massive boot, not to mention all of the gadgets and the looks. This car gets HUGE looks, I’ve come out to a car park at a hotel we were staying at and found about 12 people staring at it, ended up opening it up and letting everyone have a proper look. Make no mistake, it’s a fantastic car, drives well and has something for everyone. My previous vehicles were Audi, BMW and this car does it better.
@Liger._King
@Liger._King 5 жыл бұрын
I ask you again, Sofyan. Do you ever get to sleep? I ask because you whip out these review videos like rain drops. But you're by far the best in this business. You know too well how to keep us really entertained. Thank you so much!
@stevenjohnson4207
@stevenjohnson4207 5 жыл бұрын
To each is own but Audi still looks better in my opinion. I do like this look as well.
@Nestle245
@Nestle245 5 жыл бұрын
This looks just as good surprisingly.
@campkira
@campkira 5 жыл бұрын
VW is a cheaper car.... But yet agian nobody want a A7...
@gearheadtechnology
@gearheadtechnology 5 жыл бұрын
The audi better look better, as its much more expensive lol
@lcsighteken2248
@lcsighteken2248 5 жыл бұрын
@@campkira I want an A7. To each his own.
@joseph1541
@joseph1541 5 жыл бұрын
Lcsighte ken my friend has a a7 it’s super nice but this vw is just as nice actually lol
@jd5179
@jd5179 5 жыл бұрын
Meant for budget version of Audi, but requires premium parts and labor just like Audi .
@komentierer
@komentierer 5 жыл бұрын
It's based on a completely different platform than the Audi A7. So no, it doesn't.
@Brazillianboi69
@Brazillianboi69 5 жыл бұрын
jd5179 35k for luxury you’re crazy
@thenoodleking
@thenoodleking 5 жыл бұрын
@@Brazillianboi69 60k taxes in in Canada.
@slashtrio
@slashtrio 5 жыл бұрын
Ehh, I owned a VW CC for 5 years and it never had any problems. None. Also VW are doing that 6 year warranty as well now.
@andresparrow2971
@andresparrow2971 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the way VW highline vehicles go. VW on the front but Audi stuff all through it. I think thats why my next VAG will be Audi...i mean im paying for audi parts might as well have audi status.
@evanrain1166
@evanrain1166 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the grill lines go into the headlights
@seanhershey3390
@seanhershey3390 5 жыл бұрын
the CC's still look good to me.... this is stunning.
@A2dy
@A2dy 5 жыл бұрын
Been dying to see this on US roads!
@SyrusLang
@SyrusLang 5 жыл бұрын
And they've been dying on the roads
@Ari-il3ib
@Ari-il3ib 5 жыл бұрын
Syrus Lang how sway?
@fakedazzleful
@fakedazzleful 5 жыл бұрын
@@SyrusLang lol. Best comment ever
@crownr0yalonice
@crownr0yalonice 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a couple in Massachusetts!
@FrenzArts
@FrenzArts 5 жыл бұрын
@@SyrusLang have had this car over a year now and never had a problem with it, if you are referring to reliability that is. :P
@Luqswl
@Luqswl 5 жыл бұрын
I am an ex-owner of an vw arteon and I've got to say, for a volks it's decent. Sufficient power, ample of interior space and boot space. Extraordinary design (imo) and it's quite rare to see them on the roads but I've since traded in my arteon for the new Audi A7 and holy it's definitely an upgrade indeed. Between the two, the A7 will be my pick. (Do note my arteon was the R-Line with all the bells & whistles, here in Singapore.)
@chris809carhunters
@chris809carhunters 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one
@mrfreezey1
@mrfreezey1 5 жыл бұрын
Me too..shopping this with the stinger..but i think the stinger might be the 1..with all the horsepower..but love the design of the arteon
@chris809carhunters
@chris809carhunters 5 жыл бұрын
Michael M yeah i wish arteon had a 6 cylinder option with stinger horsepower levels
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrfreezey1 I looked seriously at the Stinger last year. I've owned two KIA Sorentos so I was disposed to like it. And I did. But sometimes very minor things make a big difference in a personal reaction. In my case it was the fake plastic vents on the side of the Stinger. I don't think I would ever get over looking at them and feeling they're simply cheap. It's a very personal reaction and I wouldn't criticize anyone who overlooks them but I just couldn't get over them.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
@@chris809carhunters Not happenin'. VW will be happy to sell you an Audi if that's what you're looking for. And VW would be VERY unhappy to think you purchased an Arteon rather than an Audi.
@bujon2
@bujon2 2 жыл бұрын
It has launch control. You need to set it to sport mode, disable auto-off-engine feature and switch ESP to sport. Than press the brake, floor the gas (launch control info shows up on display) and release break... boom - completely different story compared to just floring the gas as shown in the video.
@scottamolinari
@scottamolinari 5 жыл бұрын
Hey. Great review. Love how you can just talk away without any "ums" or "likes". Very professional moderating. I'm getting the Arteon as a company car (here in Germany). Just ordered it a few weeks back and can't wait to get it. Your review makes me even more happier I decided to get the Arteon, as I also had a fully loaded A4 sedan as an alternate choice. Thanks for that! :)
@jaycewolf405
@jaycewolf405 5 жыл бұрын
I like outside of this Volkswagen
@2ndchanceinlife
@2ndchanceinlife 5 жыл бұрын
Saw this car in white while driving home tonight. Its freakin sexy !!! I had to look for the Arteon on the back, and here I am on this video. This car is bloody beautifully elegant but cool looking. I dont mind having one
@sirot5561
@sirot5561 5 жыл бұрын
Starting at 7:20 its like Sofyans dream....SOFT TOUCH, SOFT TOUCH, SOFT TOUCH and some more SOFT TOUCH ALL THE WAY DOWN!!!!!!! ;)
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 5 жыл бұрын
they use all this soft touch but ruin it with acres of horrible gloss black dirt magnet plastic
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 5 жыл бұрын
Mgoblagulkablong and no leather stitching on the doors and dash for a “flagship “
@federal6616
@federal6616 5 жыл бұрын
Stop that silliness.
@xlilraeraex
@xlilraeraex 5 жыл бұрын
He likes to be touched softly😂
@bradcast2967
@bradcast2967 5 жыл бұрын
he’s so gay Lol
@jamesherring9662
@jamesherring9662 5 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers for VW: Boss, how much soft touch you want on the new car? Boss: YES
@kadinmcdonald2589
@kadinmcdonald2589 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly my 2010 CC R-line, which was my first car back in 2013 is still an amazing car. It's survived a track day, got a new engine for free through VW when an injector got stuck open, and is still going strong as ever for being ran hard every day at 111k miles. And is still one of the best looking and well equipped middle shelf sedans out there. Though I'm biased.
@rugger8136
@rugger8136 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see VW bring this stateside. Beautiful vehicle, and definitely on my list once the lease on my GTI is up!
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
I agree it's beautiful but I don't lease cars. I plan to be buried in my GTI. :)
@BoldOne8760
@BoldOne8760 5 жыл бұрын
Americans are missing out on VW. The Golf GTD and GTE The Polo and Polo GTI The T-Roc The Touareg The Amarok Our Passat is also entirely different from yours and is a top Sedan here
@r3ggie617
@r3ggie617 5 жыл бұрын
That volume knob with the rotating power on/off switch that rotates WITH IT! Grinds my gears! I hate it when manufacturers do that!
@TheAirsoftPlayer1
@TheAirsoftPlayer1 5 жыл бұрын
VW has been grinding those gears for almost a decade 2010 gti
@petergreco6010
@petergreco6010 5 жыл бұрын
I only use the steering wheel volume controls so the power button is always straight
@illlanoize23
@illlanoize23 5 жыл бұрын
R3ggie same here I was literally saying the same thing about my golf just yesterday
@leeeinfield
@leeeinfield 5 жыл бұрын
You’re a cry baby aren’t you.
@MrThegreatest97
@MrThegreatest97 5 жыл бұрын
This Audi A7 looks great 👍 I’m glad they updated it ! Looks similar to the recently released Volkswagen Arteon
@lilbiscuitable
@lilbiscuitable 4 жыл бұрын
They need a turbo v6 detuned for mpg. The power boost would make this car a lot more interesting.
@bigmountain7561
@bigmountain7561 5 жыл бұрын
Audi actually fought the production of this car. But since VW is the parent company, well you’re driving it.
@Spicypotato11
@Spicypotato11 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this review. I have a CC and this looks like a great replacement
@805NAVE
@805NAVE 5 жыл бұрын
Zach D keep the cc
@Churboiismiley
@Churboiismiley 5 жыл бұрын
I have a cc also and really exited to test drive this one as a possible replacement
@MrDiva480
@MrDiva480 5 жыл бұрын
I have the CC and i prefer most things about it over this.. personally i like the "dated interior" that everyone says.. but i also dont really like the digital cockpit either..
@Spicypotato11
@Spicypotato11 5 жыл бұрын
John Archer I love pretty much everything about the Arteon. I do think the design of the CC has aged well though. I have a 2013 and it looks like a newer car
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
I've always admired the CC but it had a very difficult time escaping the shadow of the Passat. It began with its name, the Passat CC, and even after the Passat moniker was dropped it retained a reputation of being nothing more than a upper trim Passat. Not fair perhaps but that was the perception in the marketplace. VW needed a somewhat more premium sedan that was clearly distinguishable in name and looks from the Passat.
@soundestmonk
@soundestmonk 5 жыл бұрын
Wait...so you are telling me there is a Volkswagen Audi product that has actual exhaust not fake exhaust that are filled in with plastic? *Holy moly*
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 5 жыл бұрын
a3, a4/allroad, a5 coupe/cab/sportback, q3, passat, jetta, golf, alltrack and all Audi S models have real exhaust. The premium machines gave the exhaust outlets an axe because the clients spending $70,000-$110,000 on a luxury car complain about exhaust soot/vapors on their bumper. Can't win em all pal.
@ACURACALABAR11
@ACURACALABAR11 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjoestar8839 saw a couple s variants and they all have fake exhaust.....so thats just being cheap
@J-W.-
@J-W.- 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjoestar8839 not true Alot of the S products have fake including the Jetta,golf have fakes to.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 5 жыл бұрын
@@J-W.- I'm not speaking of S trim VW's, that is the lowest trim. I am speaking of performance S/RS model Audis. none of which have fake exhaust. Only the premium models do, such as the a6/7/8 (unless they are an S or RS model). This is due to wealthy *owners complaining about exhaust smoke on their bumpers*. I feel this issue is redundant. Either way, not all have fake exhaust, and none of the performance models do either. I spend all day driving and selling them.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 5 жыл бұрын
@@ACURACALABAR11 Don't confuse the "S-Line Package" (interior and trim parts) with an actual S Series (S3/4/5/6/7/8) as they are not the same, S-Line is a trim package. S vehicle is a whole different animal. The A8L has fake exhaust whereas the S8 has real exhaust, yet to be released. A7 vs S7, A6 vs S6... you get the idea hopefully.
@iMidnightMonster
@iMidnightMonster 5 жыл бұрын
the front looks a lot like a concept car!
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 5 жыл бұрын
Jahsim this is true
@aaron5222
@aaron5222 5 жыл бұрын
It took a ton of engineering to make it that way. It has something in the hood that blows it up a few inches in case you hit a person.
@RGMHT
@RGMHT 10 ай бұрын
No, it's not the Budget A7. The A7 is very sporty and the A8 is luxurious and the Arteon has parts of the sporty of the A7 and parts of the luxury of the A8
@nitishkannan2919
@nitishkannan2919 3 жыл бұрын
Leased a Passat 0 down and 269 a month can’t beat that
@Kingjay814
@Kingjay814 5 жыл бұрын
The Stinger is still the better buy. This car at that price stacks up to a GT1 Stinger AWD w/Remote Start comes in at $49k. That's a way more powerful motor and superior warranty. If you don't go AWD the Stinger is the same price and keeps its power advantage + warranty. The 4cyl models just out class it in fuel economy + warranty for less money (even when you go down to cheaper versions). Even if you're looking for a luxury FWD car the Lexus ES 350 (or Toyota Avalon) exists or heck the Kia Cadenza is a solid pick. I like how the VW looks, I like that digital dash but those two things aren't game changers. This car is just for someone who just really likes VW. I just don't see it as a compelling offer. Especially in its FWD form.
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you there. Is a good looking car but I would still take the Stinger. And before you VW fanboys get your panties all in a twist, I was one of you. Among the ones I had there was a Passat W8 for fucksake! 🤣 but in my defense, at least it was one of the 432 6-speed manuals ever imported. As far as comparing a loaded Stinger GT2 all wheel drive at $52,000 to this at $47,000, nobody is paying sticker price for the Stinger and I doubt VW dealers will be discounting this any if at all. For the minuscule price difference it would ultimately be, I would get an all-wheel-drive Stinger GT2. Plus the Stinger is rear-wheel-drive so I have my choice of rear-wheel drive or a rear biased all-wheel drive. if I had a family that made rear seat room paramount, then yeah maybe for the extra couple of inches of rear seat legroom. So the small trade-offs in room and ultimately price, I'll take the bigger difference in performance with the Stinger. Not to mention Lap3 has been running their tune in a Stinger for over a year now with no issues. Merely with the tune and bolt ons, still with stock turbos and internals, they have boosted it from 365 horsepower at the crank, to over 500 at the wheels.
@zoranlovric9871
@zoranlovric9871 5 жыл бұрын
VW has 6yr/72k miles bumper to bumper warranty which beats Kia's 5yr/60k miles. Kia has 10yr/100k drivetrain warranty but that's not transferable so you'd have to keep your Kia for 10yrs to fully utilize it (no resale value).
@johnholst
@johnholst 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! This is a super nice car, but at this price, you have to be a VW lover to buy it. It's certainly not a great value.
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 5 жыл бұрын
@@zoranlovric9871 After my experiences with VW ownership as well as working in VW service, the VW will have no better resale value than anything else. Do some research on VW as of late. More problematic than ever. Look into how many people are very dissatisfied with their Atlas. A good friend has a CC that's been in multiple times for the back up camera alone.
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 5 жыл бұрын
Got my 2019 stinger gt2 awd with the nardo Grey color for 45k new from a local dealer. There going far under a sticker. Some gt base awd cars selling at 36k near me.....
@Nestle245
@Nestle245 5 жыл бұрын
Very rare for a mainstream brand car to look better than the cars of it's very own premium brand version.
@TJ_Kirkland.
@TJ_Kirkland. 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that Baby shit yellow really pops!😍
@TJ_Kirkland.
@TJ_Kirkland. 5 жыл бұрын
😩😩😩😩😩
@Jacob-nn7hv
@Jacob-nn7hv 5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao! I agree
@awkwardsanchez6231
@awkwardsanchez6231 5 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@isaialeuila9327
@isaialeuila9327 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂
@willjay7607
@willjay7607 5 жыл бұрын
Poops*
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX 5 жыл бұрын
Watched for the door closing sound, LED lights, and the felt lined glove box comments. The all padded soft dash comment was sooooo EXTRA! 😉
@piefecta3012
@piefecta3012 5 жыл бұрын
22:25 look closely at the red car passing by
@TheQmoney60
@TheQmoney60 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Senathorror
@Senathorror 5 жыл бұрын
Another vw Arteon... ;)
@Composurezen
@Composurezen 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is sick guys.. Man it looks so sleek! if there was an Audi symbol on there, you would confuse it with one honestly.
@theangryMD
@theangryMD 5 жыл бұрын
not really. the design languages are distinct.
@dlu361
@dlu361 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this be a budget A5 Sportback?
@Kingjay814
@Kingjay814 5 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing it's a Diet Audi.
@bahamatodd
@bahamatodd 5 жыл бұрын
Except its almost as large as an A6.
@theredline
@theredline 5 жыл бұрын
ProfessorRICEMAN We said A7 because the size of this car is closer to that vehicle. The A5 Sportback is so much smaller.
@1990Thunderbolt
@1990Thunderbolt 5 жыл бұрын
@@theredline hmm point taken.
@andersonrodriguez8258
@andersonrodriguez8258 5 жыл бұрын
Is not because parts Nd mantainance goin b as high as a audi
@zack5417
@zack5417 5 жыл бұрын
Sofyan always posts new cars long before others
@TheUrbanEpicure
@TheUrbanEpicure 5 жыл бұрын
I hope this is sarcasm. The global press launch was ages ago. This is not a new car.
@aaronyoung6937
@aaronyoung6937 5 жыл бұрын
If it’s just getting to America it’s new to US. It was released in Europe last year but nun have hit American roads until now
@TheUrbanEpicure
@TheUrbanEpicure 5 жыл бұрын
Who cares when it comes to the US? Every self-respecting car buyer (let alone enthusiast) has long read and watched dozens of reviews and knows everything about the car. Be at the global press launch or skip the review altogether, it's pointless to be this late to the party.
@zeke937
@zeke937 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheUrbanEpicure Then stick to those reviews. Not sure why you came on here when you yourself said it was "pointless" and that everything to know about the car is already out there. The man still took the time to make a video giving his perspective. At the very least you can "respect" that.
@TheUrbanEpicure
@TheUrbanEpicure 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't come here to watch it but to say just that. And yes, the man 'took the time' to 'give his perspective' because it's his sole source of income and his family will starve if he doesn't keep pumping out videos - even pointless ones like this one.
@Pomek36
@Pomek36 5 жыл бұрын
the best looking volkswagen currently, but that understates it, this car is really beautiful
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 5 жыл бұрын
*budget a5 you mean. this car doesnt come close to the a7 when it comes to ride quality, noise isolation, possible interiour configuration and overall tech. also its biggest engine is a 265hp 4 cylinder.. thats literaly the smallest starting engine you can get in an a7. so yeah its more like a budget a5, especially from a price point.
@TheAirsoftPlayer1
@TheAirsoftPlayer1 5 жыл бұрын
this guy started shooting for the stars on that comment. its a flagship VW leave it at that.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Grovenor yeah i get it.. just a clickbaity title to lure people in. its not even a real flagship like the pheaton. that was a real vw flagship. this car shares its complete platform with a vw passat. its interiour is 100% passat. this is a passat with other dampers and body kit..
@TheAirsoftPlayer1
@TheAirsoftPlayer1 5 жыл бұрын
@@questionyourself718 its a weird balance game they have to play to still sell this car in their lineup.... making its own platform again and all that just doesnt make sense at the cost might as well get a legit luxury car. its a CC thats all it is replaces and refreshes what cobbwebbed place the CC had
@rramath
@rramath 5 жыл бұрын
This is comparable to accord 2.0 or Camry v6. Not a5 or a7. That's just stupid.
@richardmyles8237
@richardmyles8237 5 жыл бұрын
This car journalist is the BEST. He is the BENCH mark in which all car journalists should aspire to. He loves VWS....which makes him even cooler!
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 5 жыл бұрын
Sofyan you stated that its the best looking sedan in *BOTH* VWs and Audis line-up. Sadly I think youre right, I used to love Audis design language from the mid-00s (Audi i-Robot car) until the early 2010's (1st generation Audi A7). Their designs were elegant, understated and yet highly luxurious and futuristic. The original Audi Q7 for example defined what a luxury crossover was and the entire market followed. Now their designs are trying too hard with giant pointy hexagon grilles and squinty headlights with fussy LED designs. I agree, the Arteon is the best for both brands.
@MrOseetah
@MrOseetah 5 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more!! New Q7 is awful compared to the old one.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrOseetah The new Q7 literally took Cadillacs sharp and angular design language and stuck an Audi logo on it. Its literally a Cadillac without the tall vertical LEDs. I fucking cringe.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrOseetah To be clear, the current Q7 is not a bad looking car at all...its just not an Audi looking car and it completely betrays Audis designs from the 2000s-early 2010s era.
@kgamaseg
@kgamaseg 5 жыл бұрын
The Arteon 4Motion will be the car a lot of aftermarket modders will want to get their hands on and drop in an APR chip and tune.
@attocoulomb
@attocoulomb 5 жыл бұрын
VW already pushed the boost up quite a bit, so it will be interesting to see whether APR can add a significant improvement.
@richardmyles8237
@richardmyles8237 5 жыл бұрын
I see why you have so many subscribers....you are the king of auto journalists!
@invincibleDG123
@invincibleDG123 5 жыл бұрын
I saw this in South Africa last year and wondered why we didn't have it in the US. I'm glad we finally have it now. The most beautiful VW sedan around so far.
@bonzobonanza
@bonzobonanza 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect car if you want a sporty driving experience, while giving you a luxury, and practical combo.
@rmonroe135
@rmonroe135 5 жыл бұрын
Love that exterior 😍 but that interior needs more tweaking 🤷🏽‍♂️
@timsouttahere
@timsouttahere 5 жыл бұрын
The interior is bland!
@batitsogtsaikhan469
@batitsogtsaikhan469 5 жыл бұрын
People here talking about interiors when they don't own a car at all...this interior looks great with emphasis on function and quality which are what matter the most.
@rmonroe135
@rmonroe135 5 жыл бұрын
Bati Tsogtsaikhan funny cause I do own a car with a nicer interior than this thing 😂
@timsouttahere
@timsouttahere 5 жыл бұрын
@@batitsogtsaikhan469 bitch shut the fukk up
@recon_ron7746
@recon_ron7746 5 жыл бұрын
@@batitsogtsaikhan469 seriously, spoiled ass people want a big ass Tesla screen in interiors nowadays
@SwagMaster824
@SwagMaster824 5 жыл бұрын
I expected to see atleast a 6-cylinder in this thing but I was more expecting to see an 8! But it's a 4 cylinder.. crazy. They should definitely have some engine choices, not like this chassis can't fit a bigger engine, the car is massive
@qbangamerr5871
@qbangamerr5871 5 жыл бұрын
LIT GOD a lot of smaller engines nowadays for fuel effeciency :(
@RJ-cv2uw
@RJ-cv2uw 5 жыл бұрын
I really love this channel. What drawn me to this channel years ago was the detailed reviews of cars. I felt like I knew everything that needed to know about a car after watching its review BUT I didn't really like the video quality. Video quality has improved a lot since, along with the detail reviews. This channel has become my 2nd favorite car reviews channel. 2nd to Doug Dumero's... awesome vid
@princeboafo1338
@princeboafo1338 Жыл бұрын
You need to review the 2023 model with 300 horses
@virenvs905
@virenvs905 5 жыл бұрын
A VW with an aisin transmission??? Now that's a VW worth buying.
@utvol6945
@utvol6945 5 жыл бұрын
Viren vs they had that even in 2006
@jakehunter3434
@jakehunter3434 5 жыл бұрын
A German car without a garbage auto? 😦
@ItsNotAProblem
@ItsNotAProblem 5 жыл бұрын
Still has VW electronics. 🤢
@randomperson7135
@randomperson7135 5 жыл бұрын
SirLovesALott u know Volkswagen owns Audi,Bentley,bugatti and more car brands
@lucasqa19
@lucasqa19 5 жыл бұрын
Jake Hunter you really think ZF is crappy too? Jesus christ
@kevincarver4759
@kevincarver4759 5 жыл бұрын
I can see the power button still rotates with the volume knob.
@kojoinstrumentals6856
@kojoinstrumentals6856 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kaliberto1
@kaliberto1 5 жыл бұрын
Freaking hate this 🤣
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous vehicle, inside and out. I'm struck by the fact that the Arteon looks much sleeker in this review than in earlier videos and photos of the car. Of course there will be the usual complaints from internet fanboys who think every vehicle should have a five liter V8 under the hood but that ignores both what the Arteon is about and the fact that it's designed to conform to recent (much stricter) changes in EU emission requirements and the much more expensive fuel outside the US. Those who aren't familiar with the 2.0L turbo found in various forms in the GTI and the Golf R (and in even more variants in European VW's) would be surprised at its performance potential. Furthermore, VW is very protective of the engine choices and configurations of its Audi brand (much as Toyota is with Lexus vehicles) and they're unlikely to offer versions of the Arteon that threaten to cannibalize sales of Audi models. So a 3.0L turbo V6 isn't a likely option. VW has a very spotty record in terms of sales of its European spec vehicles. Americans in general are unwilling to pay the price Europeans routinely pay for VW products and it will be interesting to see how the Arteon fares. Sofyan is correct, I think, in categorizing the Arteon as a Grand Touring vehicle, a bit further along that dimension than the Stinger but with a similar mission. KIA, of course, offers the twin turbo V6 in the Stinger but the American market is far more important to KIA than it is to VW and KIA doesn't have to worry nearly as much about cannibalizing sales of a luxury brand closely associated with KIA. (The Genesis G70 is really quite different in terms of its appeal though it shares the Stinger's design and engineering under the sheet metal.)
@jackruz8652
@jackruz8652 3 жыл бұрын
When are you going to review the 2021 Arteon?
@ricardomosso2384
@ricardomosso2384 4 жыл бұрын
This guy does the best car reviews ever!!! Congrats!
@CilVine
@CilVine 5 жыл бұрын
good-looking car. The only problem I have is that, for a car of this level, the navigation screen could have been mounted a tad higher. Fluent, business-like, and professional review.
@horatiotimewaster5755
@horatiotimewaster5755 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Arteon. It is beautiful and a great cc successor. I am concerned that badge snobbery will impact sales, so I expect discounts soon. That said, I would choose this over the A4/A5 any day. Thx for another excellent video, Sofyan.
@ArtificialGamingIntelligence
@ArtificialGamingIntelligence 5 жыл бұрын
If only this car had an engine, it is so damn beautiful.
@KortexAU
@KortexAU 5 жыл бұрын
Kim Jung A Twin-Turbo V6 or a V8 would fit very nicely in this car.
@MrOpticBlade
@MrOpticBlade 5 жыл бұрын
Kortex twin turbo v6 would be perfect
@whosdondada
@whosdondada 5 жыл бұрын
Coming soon
@MrOpticBlade
@MrOpticBlade 5 жыл бұрын
Asphalt Nah. I highly doubt they would ever make one
@SteffenMeyer101
@SteffenMeyer101 5 жыл бұрын
How about a 5 cylinder, nice compromise between engine size and power output and great sound
@Moisi547
@Moisi547 5 жыл бұрын
A first actual drive Review of the Arteon in America. Straight 👍
@TheBOSCO91
@TheBOSCO91 5 жыл бұрын
This car is so beautiful! I saw one in Europe back in September and was very impressed!
@wvusmc
@wvusmc 5 жыл бұрын
Still holding on to hope that VW will bring the California to North America. How are they going to have a vehicle named "California" and not sell it in America?
@thedeadpoet000
@thedeadpoet000 5 жыл бұрын
I never understood why the "California" isn't sold in the US lol
@lukerinderknecht2982
@lukerinderknecht2982 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think the Monte Carlo was sold in Monte Carlo? LoL
@89elmonster
@89elmonster 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you want that car? That's one ugly car imo.
@wvusmc
@wvusmc 5 жыл бұрын
@@89elmonsterPracticality of it. I do a lot of camping/travel. I own an older Vanagon and I think it looks like they did a good job with the California.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
Naming it the California does add insult to injury, I agree. But VW apparently feels, probably correctly, that they couldn't price it competitively in the US. VW has been burned on that score repeatedly.
@MrCrashBandicoot25
@MrCrashBandicoot25 5 жыл бұрын
Come on man... don't knock the analogue clock, that's classy and cool.
@YasumotoUS
@YasumotoUS 5 жыл бұрын
Lexus pulls off the clock more effectively, but I'll give VW a pass for trying.
@stephenhendricks103
@stephenhendricks103 5 жыл бұрын
I like it, too. But the placement seems a bit odd to me.
@spikeafrica
@spikeafrica 5 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhendricks103 that's how they do it. Between the vents. Honestly in my 17 Passat it's a perfect spot to glance over from the driving position to see the time quickly. I like it a lot.
@sandweiler4640
@sandweiler4640 5 жыл бұрын
This clock is designed to work even when the engine is off. Not always the case with digital clocks.
@sofianechabane587
@sofianechabane587 5 жыл бұрын
A very unique design, I like it. I wish they offered VR6 with DSG 4 Motions on this model ! Thanks for this awesome review
@thedeadpoet000
@thedeadpoet000 5 жыл бұрын
Same! I feel like they missed an opportunity to put their 6 cyl in here. I was wanting to buy it up to the point he said 4 cyl 2.0L
@thomas4776
@thomas4776 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a great looking VW. Good review as usual, I always enjoy your reviews, detailed and informative.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 5 жыл бұрын
Looks better than all crossovers. Simply great looking car.
@kevonevans2723
@kevonevans2723 5 жыл бұрын
Should have rounded dual or quad exhaust instead of those vacuum cleaners
@NileshR12
@NileshR12 5 жыл бұрын
Kevon Evans 😂😂
@olakunleolafisoye8433
@olakunleolafisoye8433 5 жыл бұрын
Kevon Evans 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 5 жыл бұрын
vacuum cleaners lol
@Freelancer455
@Freelancer455 5 жыл бұрын
*A5 Sportback... Doesn't even come close to Audi's C Chassis.
@leonardc1303
@leonardc1303 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of coffee consumed prior to this review I assume.
@ckneasel
@ckneasel 5 жыл бұрын
Leonard C blah blah blah blah, yak yak yak... dude talks 100mph 🤦🏻‍♂️
@nexus-qb3bu
@nexus-qb3bu 5 жыл бұрын
More like spending too much time in COCKpit!
@gumbie007
@gumbie007 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your video reviews and I must say that doing the reviews in California have a much better feel to them than the ones in Virginia. IMHO
@theredline
@theredline 5 жыл бұрын
Gumbie007 We have to agree... perhaps we’ll move out here someday 😉
@gumbie007
@gumbie007 5 жыл бұрын
Redline Reviews Please keep up the great work! Long time subscriber
@1vw4me
@1vw4me 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta say; FANTASTIC REVIEW!!!! I've been waiting for your Arteon review for a long time. You hit all the major points, and compared it to the key competitors. I'd say you missed the LEXUS, but of course they aren't hatchbacks. The CC (in particular, the VR6 4-Motion) was phased out years ago because it was eating into Audi's sales. I wonder what this will do? I think it would CHOMP on Audi's sales, that's what. This looks BETTER than the A5 and A7 hatchback, and at half the cost of an A7? It's a no brainer. Give it an AEM air filter, 3" turbo inlet, and a chip tune, and it'll easily be up over 300+HP.
@asdfghjqwertyu1858
@asdfghjqwertyu1858 5 жыл бұрын
My friends grandparents still drive a 1991 Camry, and a 1991 Civic. Both those cars would probably still be on the road when almost all of these would be in the junk yard. Heck they may be still working just fine when most people have already moved onto flying cars.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 5 жыл бұрын
And I'm sure both of those cars are fun to drive and are nice and stable at highway speeds -__- Let's not even talk about the looks and materials used.
@asdfghjqwertyu1858
@asdfghjqwertyu1858 5 жыл бұрын
At least a Toyota or Honda is less likely to visit a mechanic shop other than regular maintence. I see far more older Toyota and hondas than vws. The only vehicles I see more from the 80s and 90s other than Hondas and Toyotas are Chevy and GMC trucks.
@_Mario_PL_
@_Mario_PL_ 5 жыл бұрын
The history of German vs Japanese cars say you're right. My thing is that Japanese cars don't drive and look as good as the Germans. I've had my share of Japanese cars and I don't keep them longer than 6 years, so why not drive something that puts a smile on your face?
@infidel24
@infidel24 5 жыл бұрын
As a VW Touareg and CC owner, I can tell you that both have been very reliable. Before we bought the touareg we had a 4 runner that went through brakes and tires like crazy. That was the main reason we got rid of it! Yes it was reliable, but no matter what we could barely get 20,000 miles out of a good set of tires! And I have a buddy who's tundra spent a lot more time in the shop than you'd guess a Toyota would. And once it turned 10 years old it would no longer pass inspection due to the frame rot! People can say all they want, but all car manufacturers have their issue's, look at the latest Honda crv turbo issues.
@asdfghjqwertyu1858
@asdfghjqwertyu1858 5 жыл бұрын
I woukd rather have a reliable Japanese car that would end up having very little issues and less stress than a German car that would most likely end up being an unreliable rubbish piece of junk and headaches after five years. There is a reason many people lease German vehicles. If you plan on getting a German car it is best to get one new and only have it for up to five years, because older than that and they are nothing but headaches. A Japanese car is a better experience if you are planning to get a used car older than five years old.
@SonOfTamriel
@SonOfTamriel 5 жыл бұрын
Damn good looking car. Don't care if the stinger a lot faster I'd take this car. Way more handsome and less ricer. It'd be nice if this had a hardcore performance option, but nobody would buy an RS Audi lol.
@Tcflohr
@Tcflohr 5 жыл бұрын
Thinking of getting rid of my GTI for one of these
@Demvrti
@Demvrti 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not get hasty now
@ballathug8404
@ballathug8404 5 жыл бұрын
Just get a Golf R
@MrOpticBlade
@MrOpticBlade 5 жыл бұрын
CrazyLegsMcGee I’ve driven both. Can confirm. The arteon is a very good gt car though
@picklejay7822
@picklejay7822 5 жыл бұрын
Ehh, that’s like going from a 370 to a Altima. But at least wait a year or two for that massive depreciation this thing will undoubtedly have.
@KonamiGames
@KonamiGames 5 жыл бұрын
Its basically got the same Torque as your GTI but weighs like 800 pounds more.. so imagine the acceleration lol
@mozzie2729
@mozzie2729 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not in the market for a sedan, I just like watching your videos
@perrywlam
@perrywlam 5 жыл бұрын
Good job VW! This yellow paint and styling work. Definitely a cool car that sits between the A5 and A7 size wise.
@TheTechieSab
@TheTechieSab 5 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Doug Score.
@amosytzror4215
@amosytzror4215 5 жыл бұрын
TheTechie SAB hhhhhhhh me too
@Fentonscooby
@Fentonscooby 5 жыл бұрын
He’s out
@PRgencoupe
@PRgencoupe 4 жыл бұрын
Link
@JoesGoldenGarage
@JoesGoldenGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Sofyan. He is the go to car review guy. Love the premium content
@jonathansimon2226
@jonathansimon2226 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is spectacular, VW is making a great impact in the car market with this new 2019 VW Arteon😍😍🙌
@boxcpl
@boxcpl 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I found interesting is that the Jetta that has the heated steering wheel implements it into the same button as the heated seat button so to utilize the wheel heat but no seat heat, you still have to push the seat button and deselect from the screen menu.
@jackruz8652
@jackruz8652 3 жыл бұрын
Please give us a review of a 2021 arteon
@Hayleboi
@Hayleboi 5 жыл бұрын
Had to rewind and replay many times @11:24..."Half-Ass" sunroof.. LOL! Great review. I love watching them all...
@Hercegovac.1
@Hercegovac.1 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best looking VW 👍 This is my next car!!!
@manuelespinosa8781
@manuelespinosa8781 5 жыл бұрын
So how does this stack up to the Stinger?
@iCoolaxe
@iCoolaxe 5 жыл бұрын
The Arteon definitely makes much more sense in the U.S than in Europe, since VW offers the proper Passat only in Europe.
@TheSavageCabbage
@TheSavageCabbage 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will eventually offer it in cornflower blue...
@seyosabovic472
@seyosabovic472 5 жыл бұрын
360p again. I can't watch!!!! No has flips fone!!!! Helps
@holden_caldwell
@holden_caldwell 5 жыл бұрын
Seyo Sabovic yeah. I don’t like 360p
@picklejay7822
@picklejay7822 5 жыл бұрын
First world problems. You really can’t watch the video? I feel bad for you.
@seyosabovic472
@seyosabovic472 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks PICKLE
@theredline
@theredline 5 жыл бұрын
Seyo Sabovic Give it some time, it should be in HD now.
@seyosabovic472
@seyosabovic472 5 жыл бұрын
@@theredline Thank you!!!
@nimamaxis
@nimamaxis 5 жыл бұрын
This looks WILD! I wish the inside was a little more high tech looking!
@cedricwilson4509
@cedricwilson4509 5 жыл бұрын
This car is based from the European Version Passat, around the time MQB first came out from 2014. So its is about 5 years old. We always get everything late.
@MrVroom1
@MrVroom1 5 жыл бұрын
I love the praise you give the interior. Over here in the UK, the motoring press were very unimpressed because it looks exactly the same as the (Admittedly far nicer than the US) version of the Passat we get over here.
@waynegray6398
@waynegray6398 5 жыл бұрын
I love the look of this Arteon very nice
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