The Volkswagen Arteon is VERY, VERY UNDERRATED!

[@dang4866]

Don't fear the 20" wheels as it drives just as smooth due to the DCC & suspension. Reliability? I've owned VWs since 2005 with zero issues. Got the SE with R-line and paid no where near MSRP so don't fear the price either. Got $5,300 off which makes this car a bargain and it has all the room of a small SUV in the back - loving it!

[@DripExplains]

that bargain is a bargain of hope for the rest of us. I have a 2016 jetta sport.

[@edwardkondek2548]

Dan G same here

[@vincentfong2535]

Been driving the CC for the past 8 years and now been driving the Arteon for a month and it blew me away. I appreciate that the Arteon took a few pages from the CC in terms of fuel economy and looks and it is a worthy successor. Loving every bit of it! Great review, bro!

[@Mizaeducation]

You won't believe how much i love this car I was obsessed with the looks of vw cc and now this God i want one 😢

[@hrvatvb]

Me too,i have an Arteon 4Motion 272 HP Mangan Gray,soooo beautifoul

[@keaujibaha2594]

Vw cc almost looks like a Mercedes

[@AngelR6215]

I just purchased the R-Line Premium. Fully loaded. And I tell you it's a head turner. Very sweet running vehicle. Performs well. Will be doing a S1 tune to boost to 335 hp. As far as price I got $8,000 discount on mine plus my Honda Accord trade in. Never been happier. Nice and proper review. By the way the seat confort moving up to the premium is even better. 😊

[@ryanrenolds]

Driving the 2022 R line Coupe Shooting Brake, i love this Car or rather boat so much! It drives so good

[@darrell_dee97]

Nice car, but don't buy new, let someone else pay the first two years of depreciation, then buy used and still under manufacturer warranty.

[@patrickbolmeyer9515]

I just bought one NEW and got 20% off MSRP. I don't like buying certified cars because you really don't know how it was treated by the previous owner. I keep a car 8-10 years.

[@robertpollack695]

u could lease it

[@magellanmax]

@@patrickbolmeyer9515 COVID-19 is decimating the car market and a coworker got himself a $10K off the MSRP. I'll wait a couple more months and I'll hit up the dealership when along with the manufacturer, deals will be insane because they'll be dying to restart the new car sales.

[@nameblod]

That’s what i did, just bought mine with 25k miles on it for 30k$ SEL R Line

[@sawood1031]

Same here, I just picked up a 2020 SEL R-Line with 11k on it for $30k, like brand new. Am so impressed with it so far.

[@RyanSalinas80]

The Arteon is stunning! Hope to be able to afford it one day!

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

It got looks EVERYWHERE.

[@ssr1680]

Hey VW is giving 4k- 5k discounts on the Arteon. Me personally I'm a take a test drive either this weekend or next week also I'm going to test the Regal GS because they giving 5k off there's

[@dang4866]

@@ssr1680 Got my SE R-Line with 20" wheels for under $34,000 - the Regal doesn't compare in looks or performance in my opinion.

[@ssr1680]

@@dang4866 I don't know I heard the GS is pretty quick 5.4 seconds to 60 , but I have questions about the fit and finish of Regal like most GM products. Oh yeah congrats on the Arteon

[@Tallandcharming]

Hi mate, Proud Arteon 2.0tfsi all wheel drive owner here (tuned). Really hope you get to own one soon, it’s a phenomenal car and I’ve had several BMW’s (4&5 series) Audi A4, TT, Q5 - Arteon beats them all!!

[@labradoodleparadies]

I am awaiting a leased Arteon, to be delivered in January 2020. I live in Germany. I tested multiple Arteon versions (and of course competitor vehicles) before ordering. This is a great car. It is larger, but so maneuverable that you do not recognize the size when driving. 4 can sit in great comfort and the cargo space is more than many SUVs in this size category. I have also ordered what you cannot get - a 170 HP version. This engine is 2 seconds slower 0-60mph, but I cruised at 110 mph in both and the 170HP version can reach 140 mph, so why do I need so much more? On our very curvy slalom-like roads, which I drive on every day, both cars drove great. When passing, the smaller engine did great - the torque and kick-in of power was just fine (and I got even better mpg than you did with that smaller hp car!). Anyway, it is a great car, but too expensive here and there. I got a very discounted rate for mine, otherwise I might not have made the deal. Both 4-cyl. are smooth and I cannot see a need to put a 6-cyl. in here, except for prestige or exhaust-sound reasons.

[@brysonmblackwell]

Attractive vehicle. Would consider it...but not for $45k. Dealer would have to discount that down.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

BryB what price should it be? I say $28 grand

[@maynarddrivesfast804]

I'm a current 2015 VW CC R Line owner. I LOVE my car. My only gripe with it is the fact that it's fwd. However you can only get 4 Motion in the v6 model. With a few basic mods my 2.0T is much quicker than the available v6. I am in love with the Arteon (especially the R Line trim), BUT... that price is just ridiculous. If I'm spending that kind of money on a VAG product, I'm getting an Audi. Honestly, I don't understand the target demographic for this car. Those who can afford it are much more likely to get an Audi. Great job on the Arteon, VW! It's a shame that you won't sell many.

[@JonathanShefftz]

Anywhere between a $5k to $7k discount off MSRP is typical here in southern New England for the SEL-P.

[@brysonmblackwell]

@@JonathanShefftz nice! Unfortunately I in Texas. Hopefully they will do the same here. Beautiful car!

[@alexalexis5304]

@@maynarddrivesfast804 Audi is made by the same company. I don't get American brand snobs🤷‍♂️ In Europe, people aren't that obsessed with badges. No wonder Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, were all created for the US market. Fundamentally, it's an S3 on the mechanicals.

[@madmaxine12]

An A7 clone for about half the price - seems okay to me!

[@dystinct1777]

It’s based on a Audi A5 saloon. The A7 is way too big

[@ericteather8619]

@@dystinct1777 I had a A7 before my Arteon....it is much closer to A7 than A5 sportback..... I'm happy with it...

[@AlvinYap510]

@@ericteather8619 Agree, I have sit in both the Arteon and the A5. The back passenger's room in the Arteon is just insane

[@robertdebarge276]

Wheelbase on the Arteon is an inch longer than the A5 sport back but about 4 inches shorter than the A7.

[@thejazzpreacher]

Test drove an R-Line model last week, it's very impressive. Dealer rep told me that incentives will be better in spring 2020. Thanks for the review!

[@ssr1680]

As a former sales rep look for big incentives around November and December, shop around other vw showrooms you'll find some already giving it away for 4k under sticker

[@JonathanShefftz]

The warranty is being truncated for 2020, plus the digital display might shrink. Should be lots of leftover 19" SEL-P R vehicles this fall...

[@ssr1680]

@@JonathanShefftz Yeah I seen the news too about the warranty changing for 2020

[@patrickbolmeyer9515]

Bought my 2019 SEL Premium R-Line for $40K USD. Had the APR+ performance software downloaded before delivery. Fabulous ride!

[@GUITARTIME2024]

How good is the APR upgrade? Is your warranty ok?

[@patrickbolmeyer9515]

@@GUITARTIME2024 - My warranty with VW is 6 yr / 72K miles, bumper to bumper with the exception of wear and tare items. The APR warranty covers any issues with the power train that may occur as a result of the tune. I'm assuming abuse may be a cause for concern for some drivers. I'm a conservative driver but like the extra boost in horsepower and torque that the APR+ tune gives when needed. If the APR+ tune voided the factory warranty, I would NOT have had it installed. My VW dealer has a perfromance shop and is a licensed APR Dealer. They also do a lot of Audi performance work.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

@@patrickbolmeyer9515 and the horsepower boost?

[@patrickbolmeyer9515]

@@GUITARTIME2024 - ~95 HP and 85 lb/ft torque boost.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

@@patrickbolmeyer9515 very good!

[@Its-Just-Gizmo]

As a B7 Passat owners this thing makes me snap my neck everytime I see one.

[@crazyone1067]

The Clam shell hood looks great! I cannot wait to pick up a used example in the future.

[@MrEmmanuelmack]

A Yates me to I have a2014 ccRline I got under 40000 miles for 16000

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Choose one and tell why :) VW ARTEON KIA STINGER GT2 TOYOTA AVALON TRD AUDI A5 SPORTBACK TESLA MODEL 3 AWD (NON PERFORMANCE)

[@wbwayne8887]

Kia Stinger, even the base one. Why? #Dieselgate

[@soiceyboy33]

I don’t think it’s fair to compare an Arteon to the Avalon or Tesla Model 3. Those aren’t hatchbacks

[@chrisbrown5629]

I would pick the Stinger.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@soiceyboy33 I thought the model 3 was. Perhaps not though.

[@soiceyboy33]

WB Wayne Nope, only the Model S!

[@cornerofthemoon]

I wanted an Arteon but even with the current "Corona" deals it was still way above my price range. I got a 2020 Passat R-Line instead.

[@joergmagenreuter3596]

VW is a very good car and much underrated in US. The reliability is the same then Audi for much less money. I owned 6 VW and the one in Germany is now 32 years old and still running strong.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

VW in America has releliability issues.

[@chrisvargas4968]

‘Glide’ is the perfect description. My CC glides down the road. Love driving it. I would consider this car.

[@pradeepbhatt1316]

Thanks for the review, I am considering to buy this car next year from the used car market. As far as the price goes, you will get what you pay for. Stinger is not even close to Arteon in terms of quality, fit and finish. I have a question though, premium fuel in Arteon is Recommended or Required?

[@stephenhendricks103]

Recommended...strongly recommended :)

[@stevenhombrados1530]

If you love your Arteon, you should feed her the best.

[@miyinan]

I’ve been eying the Arteon for a little while now. I was going to purchase an A4 but now with pretty much the same money I could go with the Arteon. I know the A4 is smaller but I’m curious to know what your thoughts are on the two. Great video btw!👍

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

LM Hadley Thank you! The Arteon was great! I’d say if you need more room, might as well go for the Arteon. Feels every bit as nice as a base-mid level Audi A4.

[@davehossack7191]

Forrest, first of your reviews that I've watched...dude you do a great review!! Thanks very much!

[@stephenhendricks103]

Kudos for a comprehensive, detailed, and unusually perceptive review, Forrest. I was especially impressed by your comments about the performance of the Arteon as a true Grand Touring vehicle designed to be driven comfortably for hours at high speeds, often more than 100 mph, on immaculately maintained highways in Europe. You didn't have the opportunity to drive the Arteon on the Autobahn where they are a frequent site but you did get to drive of Texas highways that are probably the closest imitation of the Autobahn in America. Unfortunately at nowhere near the speed for which the Arteon is designed. I'd add that true European GT's like the Arteon are designed to be driven on back roads, often paved over the winding cobblestone roads laid down as long as 2000 years ago by the Romans. Our wide open spaces and the fact that much of the country has neither frequent curves in our roads nor mountains to climb make those requirements less critical for many Americans. All that illustrates a fundamental difference in the way Europeans and Americans tend to define "performance." There's a reason that Americans invented drag races and stock car racing on high bank oval tracks while Europeans invented rallies, sports cars, and road racing on actual roads or tracks designed to emulate them. To Americans "performance" is measured by 0-60 and quarter mile times. That's not the perspective of Europeans especially in reference to Grand Touring vehicles. Your review illustrates the difference well.

[@labradoodleparadies]

I don't know where you see them frequently - not here in Germany. This is a seldomly-seen car, probably because it is overpriced for here (I am in Germany and have ordered an Arteon for January 2020) and VW forgot to advertise it (really - you NEVER see ads for this car!). Most people do not know this car - the comments I got while testing different versions proved this well - so many came up and asked me what I was driving. Your comments about where the car is driven are straight-on. This car maneuvers wonderfully and you do not feel the size at all and a 170HP engine is just fine for 110 MPH cruising and 140 MPH top speed and it is only minimally slower 0-60 than the 270 HP version and uses even less fuel!

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@labradoodleparadies Saying the Arteon is a "frequent" sight in Europe was probably hyperbole. Nevertheless, the Arteon has sold well in Europe. The recently installed VW CEO has said they don't expect it to be a big seller in the US but it's hoped that it will lend a premium air to the VW lineup. Considering the spotty performance VW has experienced in selling their Euro-spec vehicles in the US, I suspect the company has their collective fingers crossed.

[@legostarwarsrulez]

The road noise is from the tires. Those tires are notoriously hard and noisy. Throw some softer tires on there and it’ll be silent

[@AntonioEdmonds]

My Arteon trunk open and close automatically. I have the SEL Premium R Line. Also the Arteon don't have the homelink in the mirror for your garage. I got the dealer to install that for me. This version seem plain compared to the SEL Premium R Line.

[@mikerules666]

I agree with you. Every one of the other car channels tries to compare it directly to an A7. It’s not an Audi. I went and test drove one and was highly impressed. Most dealerships that I went to had it mark at least $8000 under MSRP. $38,000 for an SEL Premium R-Line is an outstanding value IMO.

[@JH-qy7zw]

Curious as to whether you confirmed your MPG at the pump? With previous cars I have owned, it seemed the computer showed higher MPG's than I was actually getting real world. Great channel!

[@stephenhendricks103]

I had the same question. Based on my GTI with the same engine, however, I'm surprised but not shocked by the MPG's Forrest was seeing driving steadily on the flat well maintained Texas highways. Even if his entire trip fuel economy of 38 mpgs or so is a bit high it is extremely impressive for a vehicle that can be driven comfortably at speeds well over 70 mph.

[@JR-sk3jy]

Very nice review. I especially like that you are 6ft so i can see what the back seats really look like. The A7 is to expensive, A5 is way to small, looks like the Arteon will be my next car while i can still get it.

[@Doriana806]

Very helpful review for those of us who have the Arteon on our short list. Thank you Forrest!

[@stephenhendricks103]

A word about the VW's pricing. $44-$48K may seem to be pricey for a VW sedan but it's worth noting that the Arteon in a trim comparable to Forrest's test vehicle in the United Kingdom has an MSRP of over $57,000 at current exchange rates. The Golf R's MSRP is roughly $40K to $42K in the US versus $55K in the UK. And a top trim Autobahn GTI in the US with an MSRP of about $38K has an MSRP over $50K in the UK. All these differences are similar in other European countries. They stem in large part because Europeans see VW as a premium brand. Not so among many American consumers. As a result VW has designed several vehicles specifically aimed at the US market where many consumers want larger, cheaper cars. It also means that US spec versions of the same cars often have fewer features than their European counterparts. As far as the Arteon is concerned, it's worth noting that the most comparable vehicle available is the 2.0L turbo "Premium" trim with AWD. As closely equipped as possible the MSRP is $42,385 compared to the Arteon's $44,555.* The KIA is an impressive vehicle with an equally impressive price. But it lacks the upscale interior touches of the Arteon and has 22 cubic ft of cargo space behind the second row compared to the VW's 27 cf. Folding the rear seats in the Stinger provides a total 41 cf of cargo space vs 55 in the Arteon, a differences that are significant in a "grand touring" vehicle. I own both a KIA and a VW and have driven both the Stinger and the Arteon. If I were choosing between the two I'd take the Arteon over the Stinger 2.0L turbo. If the choice were between the Arteon and the GT2 it might be different but the GT2 is significantly more expensive than the Arteon. In that case, the choice would likely be between the Stinger and the Audi A5 or A7 and other factors would come into play. *Arguably the Buick Regal Sportback is another competitor to both the Arteon and the Stinger. Based on reviews, however, the Buick is more an alternative to midsize family sedans than to a true GT. Others may differ in that judgement.

[@JonathanShefftz]

"[...]*Arguably the Buick Regal Sportback is another competitor to both the Arteon and the Stinger. Based on reviews, however, the Buick is more an alternative to midsize family sedans than to a true GT. Others may differ in that judgement." My conclusion was that the Arteon is closer to the Regal than to the Stinger in terms of overall appeal. But I can see someone trying to choose between all three of them (especially the GS version of the Regal). For me personally though it came down to some specific add'l features in the Arteon that are lacking in the Regal, the Arteon in general have an edge over the Regal, and a fear of having to deal with GM overall and also the sorry state of my local Buick dealers (plus the uncertain status of GM's arrangement with PSA and the uncertainty about future spare parts availability).

[@vonpatten001]

I actually have a VW Passat GT 2018, 280 hp / 258 lb/ft in black, you have to get that in black, red trimmings on the front did a 12000 km trip across canada , average cons. 7.1 l /100kms (33.76mpg) and its a superb ride, would like the Arteon to get that GT mode and the VR6 under the hood,maybe I would consider .....lol

[@ssr1680]

What was your 0-60? And do you think the Buick Regal GS is better?

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

ssr1680 about 7 seconds 😕 I have not had a chance to film the Regal GS so I can’t comment. 😞

[@edwardkondek2548]

ssr1680 when this car is broken in and has proper fuel in it 0 - 60 is 5.4 seconds

[@Tallandcharming]

Forrest's Auto Reviews I’ve chipped my 2.0 tfsi RLine Arteon and it’s about 4.5seconds to 60.

[@robrandall1944]

Tallandcharming niiiicccee....which one did you go with? Is apr available for this?

[@ChocoTaco39]

Car is underrated like your channel is, great in-depth review!

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Thank you so much!

[@shaesham]

The upper LED strips don’t illuminate on my SE. Not even for turn signals because the turn signal is incandescent in the SE.

[@InuranusBrokoff]

This is the review I wanted to see on the Arteon, just bummed I'm a year late...

[@labradoodleparadies]

Great review Forrest. I do however believe that it is much too long and that few will have the patience to watch it. If you like to be so very detailed, fine. But you might consider posting a short and long version, like a quick n´dirty highlight version and then your in-depth review. I am very interested, but had no patience for this, so hopped around, or listened in the background a bit. You did indeed have some of the most down-to-earth relevant comments that I have heard.

[@lcj143]

I have a cc, and I love it, wish they didn’t discontinue it, they keep renaming vehicles and it’s not fair

[@DripExplains]

Look at it this way, you have a car no one else can buy new and probably not used either.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Great review I really like that car and big congrats on hitting 50k subs 👍

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Thanks bro!

[@dancar02]

This is a fine car. As you said, the price is on the high side. I would be content with a VW Passat SE. Thank you for your review.

[@KokoFixed]

really enjoy your reviews esp. song choices

[@lorenzotalkscars1609]

The Arteon it's a really good car! Unfortunately the TOUAREG 3 it's not available for America! Volkswagen's are good cars with wrong name,this Is the problem,especially in the american market where the people wants only "look at me" cars

[@sidz0001]

Beautiful car indeed. Can you please tell all the engine options?

[@BrokenFiddles]

Is premium fuel required? Also, has anybody had experience with VW self sealing windows during winter time? I am concerned that ice on the windows would cause damage to the window motors and door seals when opening doors.

[@MatthewFura]

I have an SEL-P Rline, exact same color, etc. What speed were you doing to hit 40MPG? Best I've gotten so far is 36 MPG too and from work.

[@Dblackmon1993]

The best ive gotten is 36 to 37 too I usually put it in eco mode and cruise around 70

[@mehrangerami187]

No. The price for Arteon is crazy. 32-36K for the model you tested and 38-42K For the SEL Premium. Good job on the video. Best.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Thank your lucky stars you don't live in Europe. The version Forrest drove goes for the equivalent of $57,000 in the UK.

[@JonathanShefftz]

"No. The price for Arteon is crazy. 32-36K for the model you tested and 38-42K For the SEL Premium. [...]" How is ~$40k for the SEL-P "crazy"? Even the top trim of the 2020 Subaru Legacy isn't that much lower.

[@yippie6862]

Hi Forest. Did you have any problems with curbs and the low hanging front end? Any scrapes? Thanks.

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Yippie Non at all!

[@michaelrose3986]

I like the Arteon’s styling very much. My reservations as always with VWs is reliability. And the price is I think is 3-5k too high. The longer VW warranty however may offset reliability concerns. Competitors like the upcoming Acura TLX and Kia Optima GT (both in turbo 4 trim) might be lower price alternatives that offer similar features and power, plus all-wheel drive availability. Still the Arteon makes a compelling case for itself. Nice!!

[@patrickbolmeyer9515]

Some dealers are discounting these 10-12%.

[@ericbanks327]

So is their engine. A top spec Arteon is about the same as a turbocharged V6 Stinger.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Not really. The V6 Stinger is a great value. But to equip it comparably to the top trim Arteon will mean an additional $4000 or so.

[@crownr0yalonice]

The song you played at the end is the song that plays every time I plug my phone into my Passat! Love your reviews and Lakey Inspired! But, this car disappoints. I’m just so underwhelmed!

[@jpw5722]

Great car. Professional design

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Agreed.

[@zrandy]

Saab offered a button on the dash to turn OFF all the dash lighting. Isn't the cabin supposed to be dark at night?

[@khronoh8577]

The exterior looks similar to the a7

[@walterwhite5941]

Casue vag group

[@baldheadlogic]

Great Review Man. Very stylish sedan. I would not pay that kind of money. However, at 38-40k, this car is a much better deal. Quick questions. Does it take regular gas? Does it have a spare tire. P.S. Best intro music of any you tube reviewer that I watch by far.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Premium fuel is "recommended."

[@terrencesoltz8943]

I believe these come with a full-size spare on matching rim.

[@shan5445]

I like the clock

[@markwagner4909]

Welcome to Cbus!!!

[@AubreyBeauford]

I wouldn't pay that much for although it seems like a great car the amenities could be better(yes I know it wasn't the top model) as well as the power like maybe 280hp 300lb of torque?

[@NuVega5]

What year was this Arteon?

[@DieParaquats1971]

Beautiful Video bro keep up the good work

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Thanks Sean!

[@losdesmayosdeNestor]

It looks even better in person. It would be a no brainer if reliability was no issue. Wonder if the economy is due to elevation changes or lack thereof

[@AmeerHamza-nv2ei]

Yes indeed!

[@mcpeters515]

He covered many small things that other reviewers in this review.

[@sigview1810]

My God will provide 🙏

[@gladdy02]

Great review! I like this car. It has great looks, and good functionality for us people who don't want an SUV. I have watched a ton of reviews on this and the common theme is that this is nice car, but for the MSRP, there are better options. The interior looks nice, and driving impressions have all said the driving dynamics are ok. For 50K though, everything should be close to great! Plus, this car was shown more then a year ago, so the new car appeal might have wore off for car people like myself There are some better values out there. A fully loaded Honda Accord for me then 10k cheaper, would be the way for me. With that said I hear these things are being heavily discounted from dealers, so for the right price, this might still be a win!

[@dang4866]

Loving my SE R-Line with everything I need on it for under $34,000 - just saying.

[@stephenhendricks103]

A fully loaded 2.0L Accord is a very nice vehicle. But it's in another class, altogether.

[@gladdy02]

@@stephenhendricks103 for the price, should it be?

[@labradoodleparadies]

The interior is super quality, but VW forgot to add some pizzazz for a flagship, that is true. But I am in Germany, and drive a 170HP version (does 140 MPH just fine, cruises at 110 MPH when the Autobahn is free). OK, I have to accept 0-60mph at almost 2 seconds slower, but when overtaking on curvy roads I feel no disadvantage (I test drove both versions). Go test this car on the curviest road you can find (if you can find one). Here, I drive on great slalom roads every day, and the Arteon feels nimble and great - I do not feel the size at all. So, it DOES feel great and perform superbly. Further, 4 people can sit VERY comfortably in there, and it holds more than many SUVs in this size category.

[@KGB-FSB]

No ambient light with that price.

[@azlife4me]

Impressive. Great review. Thanks.

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Thank you!!

[@tmarks]

no, its very beautiful

[@limpunsing224]

Underrated? No Overpriced? Yes ♫ Nice review

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Bong Lim Thanks!

[@AnykindsMatthew2]

45k$??? NO THANKS!!

[@DripExplains]

It is a bit over priced! If it top out at 40k that would be more reasonable.

[@JonathanShefftz]

@@DripExplains"[...] If it top out at 40k that would be more reasonable." That's about the actual price for the SEL-P (w/o R Line styling) in southern New England.

[@1231nlp]

I would take a KIA Stinger GT2 AWD instead.

[@stephenhendricks103]

And you'd pay quite a bit more for it even with KIA's extremely aggressive pricing. A GT2 AWD has an MSRP of $52,400.

[@AZRS8733]

Why gray? Yellow looks more better)

[@robrandall1944]

Arturs Z. Because it’s a rental

[@AZRS8733]

@@robrandall1944 ok man thx👍💪

[@johnmoser2689]

I really like mine

[@MsDev76]

The reason why people say it’s not great is because of the deficit it has in dollar per horsepower compared to the Kia stinger

[@jayess7]

And now discontinued from what I hear. 😔

[@solomonereu5679]

i love the car though i'm not sure of it's durability and realiabity in africa

[@bullet_tooth_tony]

never buy a brand new german vehicle. Just a few years and they cost nothing. you can get 2-3 years old one for more then half of the original price)

[@georgefron7163]

U mean less than half

[@bullet_tooth_tony]

@@georgefron7163 yes, lol)

[@chuckcarter7431]

Was not impressed still felt like my CC

[@XZAKLY99]

I just wish it had a V6 option or something

[@stephenhendricks103]

Not happening. This is a European Grand Touring vehicle aimed at driving in countries where fuel is over $8 a gallon. There will be a hybrid or a full electric version of the Arteon before there's a V6. Of course, if you're addicted to off the line acceleration you can move to Europe and get an Arteon with a diesel engine.

[@jamesemanner9671]

Others have probably noticed this, he was bragging up the 40 MPG fuel economy, BUT 18-wheelers were passing him!

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

Well I was on a 2 lane highway having driven over 5 hours at that point. I was in the right lane with cruise control set to about 75MPH. Occasionally I had trucks that would fly by me going at least 80 and one of these instances was captured in the review.

[@robrandall1944]

That’s the main reason for him getting 40 MPG...because he was on cruise control! Obviously even if anyone going 77 mph, they were gonna pass him. So your comment is irrelevant.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Oh it’s not built in Germany bro. Mexico. Says on window sticker

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

chocolatewheelchair The window sticker said assembly point was Emben, Germany.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Forrest's Auto Reviews it’s Germany and Mexico 🇲🇽 nothing wrong with that

[@lGoldl]

Somw Volkswagen are built in Mexico but I think Arteons are all built in Germany

[@dang4866]

Man you are talking out your you know what. Made in Germany. Are you a Democrat?

[@JonathanShefftz]

Definitely Germany. (I even saw the timetable for the trans-Atlantic shipping of my Arteon this summer.)

[@norbertratvai3822]

the slant is there, Iknow, but come on dude, it's a sport limusine, not a pickup, you dont sit in it like you sit on a chair, you must get lower, confier, like in an armchair. 😁

[@markamd1]

This car needs a proper VR6 and not the shitty 2.0T....way to small of an Engine for that hunk of a Car.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Only if you believe that weight distribution is unimportant in handling.

[@umaryuldoshev1812]

Ea888 gen 3 the one used in the s3 and golf r with the is38 hybrid turbo that could make over 400 reliable horsepower with a simple tune is shitty? Pffft

[@umaryuldoshev1812]

Stick to radio controlled cars lmao

[@cxsian]

You have to be kidding me..You just said that `virtual cockpit is not that good because its volkswagen and audi is better` WHY ARE YOU DOING A REVIEW ON A VOLKSWAGEN IF YOU SAY THAT THIS IS WORSE THAN THE AUDI ITS LITERALLY THE SAME THING BECAUSE VOLKSWAGEN OWNS AUDI THEY HAVE THE SAME ELECTRONICS. what is wrong with you. i just unsubbed because of this and your `knowledge`

[@acchaladka]

Actually no, the VW digital cockpit is a little different to the Audi’s - maps don’t show as high resolution and the dials aren’t scalable moveable in the same way. I’ve seen some infotainment reviews that talk about this in some detail; it appears you are the one wrong on facts here.

[@cxsian]

@@acchaladka i own a passat b8 2017 and let me tell you.on the resolution scale/hardware there is no difference.THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT SKINS OF A SOFTWARE.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Over priced. Under powered.

[@dang4866]

I can tell you haven't driven it or else you wouldn't have made the statement. No it's not a GTI it's a GT with more than enough power.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

__CaliBoy__ sure. Heavy car with the same engine as the GLI. YET! almost twice as expensive. You can get a twin turbo v6 awd for the same price from Infiniti.

[@johnmoser2689]

Cheaply tuned... stage 1 is approximately 100hp/100tq gain for about 600 bucks... without voiding warrantee

[@chocolatewheelchair]

john moser it wears the components faster and if you lease it [as you should] why wasn’t the money modifying it? It simply doesn’t make sense we all know VW are expensive to maintain unless you do the work yourself or something

[@johnmoser2689]

@@chocolatewheelchair I've had a lot better luck over my time owning Volkswagens than what most seem to report... like any brand things can break but I personally have gotten more for my money with the VW'S I've owned and I have had quite a number of vehicles over the last 35 years of driving .... the dealer actually offered the upgrade tune from APR tuning ... the stage 1+ is warrantee approved so apparently it's not much more radical than what the Audi version of the 2.0 turbo that they share has from factory

[@zingo7418]

It's very overpriced. That's why they aren't selling.

[@007delija]

Car is nice but... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jILCq6Znptd4hM0

[@wbwayne8887]

#Dieselgate, never forget.

[@dang4866]

Who cares!

[@acchaladka]

As long as you don’t forget Mercedes, Hyundai, GM, Toyota, and others having their own massive scandals related to corporate lying, I’m okay with the constant references to diesel VW.

[@jonpetter8921]

lol you are so naive if you think VW is the only car manufacturer that cheat on emission.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@jonpetter8921 Ok, and when they are caught, I will boycott them also. There are actually ethically sound companies out there. Until I find out different, they will be the companies that earn my hard earned dollar. The VW company will never.

[@jonpetter8921]

​@@wbwayne8887​If it s that make you feel better but i doubt that will affect VW revenue. They are still 1# auto maker. And is the 1# auto maker to bet the most on EV, injecting billions of billion into to electricity, well it may due to the diesel gate but at least they are seriou about it compared to like Toyota Ford or other car manufacturers