2020 BMW M760i: One of the few remaining NEW 12 Cylinders left on the planet!

[@billymania11]

They both will depreciate like crazy but only the V12 will be royalty in the years to come. The V12 is rare and prestigious.

[@Kelveron]

Great review as always. I'm not usually big on red for cars, but this shade of red looks fantastic, really suits the 7!

[@maxthemaltesedog3597]

I would go for the M760li. V12 over v8 any day!! I love the alpina and it’s stunning looks . That v12 is luxury on another level !!

[@dimekoza]

Few generations before this, Alpina made the V12 7 series. Now that was something awesome. But still I would get the B7 over the 760. It's just more exotic, and only a handful of people know what it is.

[@willblack2306]

That V12 beast is nothing short of controlled mayhem. Great review as usual. Moto-man if firmly my second favourite car reviewer after my all time favourite... Moto-man!👍😀

[@GY9944]

I love a V12 engine just as much as the next guy but between this and B7 I think I'm going for the latter for exclusivity reasons

[@ferrariscuderia4290]

I used to be a huge BMW fanboy till about 2005, but I gotta say this 7 series beast in that color has reawakened that old BMW obsession gene. Great review as ever!

[@TheZakk28]

In today’s world... I would get the V-Dozen and be merry. I LOVE the B7 but as a car guy I want to indulge that need for butter smooth power. Both are spectacular. But I’m going 760 on this one.

[@renos77]

V12 my choice over B7 due to the V12

[@Jay005]

There is someone who has ‘21 M760i in my home parking garage in Denver, CO. It is a stunning vehicle. I have also seen a ‘20 Alpina B7 driving around here. Personally, I would choose the B7 in the beautiful green like the one I saw that is on offer.

[@highwaystar3780]

The Body structure shakes and quivers in my 2020...as it did on my 2010 Ghost. No wonder they Make the New Ghost on a New Platform. Not that I'm about to dump $400k to feel the difference!

[@Daddyj2007]

😍😍😍😍😍 shout out to the car gods over at BMW, Mercedes take notes TWIN TURBO V12 coupled with AWD and all wheel steering in your flagship sedan equals LOVE

[@PremierAutoMan86]

Yes! A like minded cylinder snob like me! EVs are cool and what not, but there’s nothing like the sound and power delivery of a V12.

[@hockeymann88]

V12s are special and rare power plants soon to be even more rare. I have never driven one but it seems like the power delivery would be more turbine-like and therefore more luxurious which would fit the reason I would want to own a car like this, ultimate luxury. I'd save the V8TT for the sportier sedans.

[@DMSparky]

I’m not usually one to say never mind fuel economy and screw the environment but I would absolutely love to see this engine tuned to its full potential. Without environmental considerations I am sure this TT V12 would likely make a lot of power!

[@larrycalloway1724]

Beautiful workmanship

[@starshipteddy9871]

I chose the M760.

[@aladdin2107]

This car has gone 10.8 at 131 on the street in the quarter mile with just a tune and catless downpipes. These things are no joke. Plus they are almost 5300lbs...imagine that engine in an M5...

[@aklisparta3790]

Great review as always, well I'll admit that I'm a sucker for alpina however for 181k I'll definitely get a v12 and keep it forever lol

[@choyayahyah]

I drove the new M760 and I thought the drive and specifically the engine coupled with the rear wheel steer was truly amazing. In the ned I didn't get the car because of the interior. I felt it was too outdated. Plus I was looking for something a bit sportier so got an M8. But if it was me, although I haven't driven the B7 I'd probably go for the M760 just for the V12. I hope BMW continues to make them and if they do I'll likely get the next generation. Great review as always.

[@titusbyzantine4949]

not sure how its outdated in any way and im saying this in 2024, almost 2025

[@eddstarr2185]

My dream car is the V12 BMW 760i, but without the M-spec. The BMW USA configurator only offers the V12 as an M-spec but I prefer no hints of "sportiness" in the outward appearance of a grand luxury automobile. The "V12" badge is all the special identification needed.

[@stephenlane9168]

Staggering engine and an amazing cruiser and smooth long haul basher 👌magnificent 👌

[@jbackes]

V-12 all the way. My M760 is a dream to drive.

[@juriebezuidenhout2538]

B7 B7 B7... Own not yet.... Why? Its an Alpina.. Nuf said 🎉

[@NikoBell12]

I'd probably get the V12. I think it sounds better and it looks understated. The B7 is great, but I'd prefer those Alpina good looks on a better looking BMW in general... such as the upcoming B8.

[@NevadaJohn1]

As a current owner of a G12 750, I plan to purchase an m760i in the next couple years. I think the B7 is the better looking car by a mile and agree that it will hold its value better especially when considering the extra cost of the m760i. But when I'm spending that kind of money, I want the refinement of a V12 and that sways my decision more than anything else.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

The best reviews in the biz :) Question: what will be the value in...lets say 10 years from now? Will it become a classic? I didn't know that they still do 12 cylinders at BMW. I guess because they have it their platform set anyway - with RR.

[@gordiasgordian925]

Looking at asking prices for 2018s, it looks like the B7 commands higher resale than the M760. Not sure which one I would choose if they were the same price, though.

[@DrHumorous]

B7 Please

[@georgewillis2202]

I own a 2020 M760i. Same specs as the review except no piano black trim and mine is gray with cognac interior. I choose the M760 over the B7 because I knew the V12 was smoother and a very special engine built by a company that builds great engines. And I don’t like the very low front air damn with a unclassy huge ALPINA stamp on it on the B7.

[@wannabedal-adx458]

I would probably go for the B8 in Alpina Blue!! It looks like enough of a car for me and it would be the same price as the M760i or B7. I would love to drive a V12 7 Series, but I have no need for such a nice back seat!!!

[@wesx100]

B7 B7! I own a 2018 Alpina B7.

[@robertdrayton3541]

Always loved the 7, always will!

[@MrGuru740]

B7 because, it just makes financial sense.

[@frailynvera2969]

Bmw x6 m competition 2021 can you drive it please

[@rockymountainbeerguy5656]

Let see a comparison test of the M760I versus the 2021 Mercedes Maybach S680 when it comes out. Battle of the 12 cylinder luxury sedans. That would be an incredible episode!👍

[@clickynote]

B7. I have wanted a B7 for more than a decade. In 2008 I came across a new B7 in ALPINA Blue and I was smitten. That spec made even the hideous E65 look attractive. PLEASE get a flying spur. That is my current grail car.

[@GS-fk8dw]

B7!

[@ramonj08]

All that needs to happen is Alpina to get a hold of M760 and BOOM B12 in Aplina Green with the cognac interior color.

[@MotoManTV]

From your mouth to God's ears . . .

[@ruialmeida6679]

That would be a B7s

[@reggie861]

B7 and pocket the twenty grand.

[@mrt2734]

V12 yes keep it alive! I love V8 and V6, But V12 are awesome.

[@bj052088meyers]

I would buy a home in Montana!

[@shannonjude1]

b7 certified 2020 and with the chance certified 2014 CL65

[@samibeemer7619]

I honestly would buy this over the B7 just to get this masterpiece V12 under the hood

[@robertkamanzi9147]

1:34 600 hp available from 5,500 rpm ALLLLL THE WAYYYYY UP TO 6,500 rpm , such a narrow power band (relatively speaking that is)

[@jays9211]

HP usually has a sharp peak at one specific RPM. The newer turbocharged vehicles are able to develop max horsepower over a short range of rpm. Torque is where you see a large band of max torque over the rpm range

[@robertkamanzi9147]

@@jays9211 I appreciate this further explaining. My comment was meant as a sarcasm based on MotoMan’s seemingly extraordinary numbers. The “all the way up” comment seemed a little out of place, I kind of expected a red top of 8,000 rpm based on what the way he mentioned it (Yes I do understand few V12 on the market have high rpms except perhaps Ferrari’s and lambos). “All the way up” was an unnecessary hype. Although that hype could have been applied to the torque figures going from below 2,000 rpm to over 6,000 rpm, although that is common for turbo engines to have a wide torque band.

[@jays9211]

@@robertkamanzi9147 gotcha!

[@alpappalardi7044]

These cars are awesome . But drop in value faster than a Boulder off the Empire State building . But still awesome

[@MotoManTV]

A rather graphic example of depreciation . . . may steal that material from you:)

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

I guess I am biased to Alpina...living next to them - Alpina always any day!

[@robertcurry6413]

Is the 4 wheel steering 5,7 or 10 degree ?

[@dkentmd]

i think 3 degrees

[@Evan-McM]

I do like the way the B7 looks...and I’m sure it’s a bit sharper to drive...but this is a twin turbo, 6.6 liter V12...and that’s about all that needs to be said. Easy choice. Given how badly they depreciate, really considering making a used one my next daily driver. Probably the most amount of car for the least amount of money in the world.

[@fabulousprofound]

Fully expect this to appear on hoovies garage at a fraction of its original purchase value in a couple of years with terminal mechanical issues...

[@Hafizadnanarifkalru]

Old is Gold New models never Good

[@sulemanqadir8225]

Which exterior colour name?

[@juancepeda6617]

i would choose the v-12!!! why? 'cause the v-12 will soon be a relic! saving my $$ for one!!!

[@aldenpeng4787]

Nice V12 but o always prefer B7 Alpina.

[@IceDree]

I ... I ... I honestly don't know. On one hand, how could you turn down an Alpina? On the other, a frickin V12 that's most likely the last of its kind, I mean, rumor has it the next 7er won't go higher than an I6er. What if I order a 760 via BMW Individual Manufaktur, have it built exactly like a B7 (color and trim down to the Myrtle Wood) & then commission a third party for a set of 22" Alpina Dynamic wheels? Ooooooorrrrr what if I buy a low milage pre-snout 760 & commission Touring Superleggera for something extra special? As always, excellent work, M!

[@MotoManTV]

You do love your 7er . . . that said, both excellent ideas:)

[@porscheguy09]

BMW needs to take their V12 and tune it to produce a little more horsepower and put it in the 8 Series Coupé.

[@MotoManTV]

Definitely an interesting concept.

[@porscheguy09]

@@MotoManTV a V12 Coupé from BMW to compete with the likes of Bentley, Aston Martin and Ferrari’s 12 cylinder coupes would be nice. Though it sounds like BMW will be killing off their V12’s following in Mercedes footsteps.

[@7rays]

And that’s why you buy cars like this from a dealer as a certified preowned (CPO) lease return vehicle

[@janvandijk4432]

The B7 any time, more resale value, better looking wheels and colors.

[@pulikeshireddycv3382]

4:32 u need to learn right side driving judgment 🤣🤣🤣

[@shopwithaaron]

V-12 oh yeah! Dash could be a 3 series!

[@olivergrizzly6346]

I'm going for neither if I can get a Panamera Turbo S Sport Turismo for anywhere close to the same price.

[@Nebo600]

You know what, I’m a big BMW fan and I really think the 7 series as a whole over the years has lost its luster. For me I think the overall design, except the interior, isn’t as good as say an S-Class or A8. However to answer your question, I would get the B7. It looks more special, it’s cheaper, lighter and has better performance. If I had the $180k I’d probably stretch it to get a 911 Turbo to be honest or if I wanted a 4 door, I’d get a full loaded M5 competition but that’s me.

[@zuti071]

740d is best engine for resale value.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I would chose the 760i over the B7. But that's not a fair question, because I dislike V8's. I would chose the 740i over the 760i and just put the extra money towards a 991 911 or something.

[@joachimlotz5049]

What a magnificant "something" on 4 Wheels! But a "bit" overpriced. But what can i say? We talk about German Premium Car Manufacterers. All Designers want to have a Meal on their Table by the End of the Day right? I would take the V8 Version and put the 20 Grand in my Pocket. Ein schönes Wochenende und 1.Advent 😉👍👋

[@AtoB12345]

ALPINA is cooler but you'll still be able to buy an ALPINA in 10 years. The same might not be said about a V12. Therefore 760 it is.

[@Alhajeh]

The V12 for me..

[@noahlugobaseballandboxing7015]

A Mercedes S65 Amgis my choice

[@carycoller3140]

Range Rover Sport SVR for me 👍😎.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

The difference between 7 series and 5 series owners is that 7 series owners either don't have children, or they don't intend to help them with the downpayment on their first house.

[@philgiltner6677]

I have one of each

[@zzhughesd]

180 large, 180 large. 180 larrrrggggggweee. So not a company director writing off tax I’d just have the 180k large in an older gen 7 series , a Lotus. A boat and a holiday. I’d likely never drive the 7 but it’d set off the drive way suppose. I’d love the Lotus. Enjoy the boat. Get drunk on holiday. I’d likely smile at the Co Director if ever see one of the 200 examples. Smile at the so Rich too must choose this rolling glorious engineering accomplishment.

[@mupetier]

760 over the Alpina. If i want sport to go fast i would get an m5cs.

[@advancelast1740]

You can hear the depreciation

[@brandonminiman]

I’m really curious how moto man will view this relative to the upcoming v12 S-class (2022?). I think the Benz is going to shake out better in every way but sport Also, for the money I would rather drive the Alpina. More special!

[@MotoManTV]

Me too:)

[@BodhiSurfer1991]

B7. It's much more unique.

[@blackice7408]

I dont believe an engine with that many cylinders that's twin turboed is making that little of power that can also take this 5100 lb sedan to 60 in 3.6 seconds. At least the torque rating is over 700 lb ft n the hp is over 660

[@bassandtrebleclef]

My eyes!!

[@RoyMcLellan]

$180k for a car you can get for about $40k in a few years.

[@patmosby_8330]

so 1000$ for a phone i can get for 20$ in a few years? you sir - you are a genius! thank you ! mindblowing !

[@joeychaseable]

As nice as the interior is, as nice as it probably drives, I could not pay that kind of money for something that looks like that..

[@Nord_Mann]

1700USD in gas guzzling tax! You lucky bastards!! In 🇳🇴 it’s 48317USD in gas guzzling tax on it’s smaller sibling, the 750 iXdrive, that is plus 26280USD in VAT of course👌🏻 The 760 iXdrive isn’t available because it fell off the scales...

[@duffydon1741]

$180k is a bit on the high side, the car has to be somewhat special for that kind of money, I'm a BMW guy through and through, but no man, for that money you'd the best of the best G-wagon...

[@dartvader7]

That G-wagon is no V12.

[@duffydon1741]

@@dartvader7 in the world of cars, few will spend their money on that Beemer given the options of the G and the V12..

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I disagree that V12's are being legislated away. BMW could easily make a 2.0L inline six, and a 4 liter V12. It is their greed that leaves us with all 2 liters being 4 cylinders. In my opinion, no luxury car should have a 4 cylinder, no matter how downsized the engine becomes. Give me a 1.5L turbo 5 before a 2L turbo 4.

[@dwightlooi]

The N74TU66 engine is -- at least on paper -- uninspiring. It's almost as if the turbochargers aren't doing anything. If they had done this as a NA engine they will easily still get the same 600 hp and around 500 lb-ft out of it with the redline still at a relatively lazy 7000 rpm. Compression can be a point or two higher, with fuel economy a mpg or two better. So all that turbocharging, plumbing and after-cooling really just gets you 18% more torque and for it to peak sooner. An analogue of the level of performance will be a 2.0L four cylinder engine making 182 hp and 178 lb-ft of twist -- very below average even by 1990 standards. Hopefully being very unstressed will make this a reliable and durable motor for collectors 30 years from now; but being a BMW I won;t get my hopes up as there will almost always be some fiddly bit that will break and grenade the engine in the process. The last honestly good engine BMW made was the M62/S62 engine in the E39; ever since then it has been one disaster after another.

[@TheMystro1971]

Oh that piano black wood trim upcost is well worth it as it is lacquered tulipwood and hand buffed to a deep depth. This is a different animal than what the Asian vehicles put out and call it “piano black” aka black plastic looking. No one wants the gloss base wood or the flat wood (open pore wood ) reminiscing of 1970s paneling sheets found it your grandparents basement at this level of a luxury vehicle. BMW and Rolls Royce do their piano black lacquer almost identically and better than anyone else in the industry. At this price point, ALPINA comes up and in my experience ALPINA has become more of a “parts bin” upgrade vehicle rather than a ground up bespoke build. If you want a true bespoke vehicle you need to buy a Rolls-Royce as no German or aftermarket German boutique brands will give you a true bespoke vehicle. ALPINA seems to be just bolting on a exhaust, minor body kit add-ons and a mild engine tune with a few badges thrown in. Test drove several over the last 2 years. I don’t see the value or buy into any extra exclusivity for the the up cost and I am their buying demographic. BMW knows how to build their own top level flagships at this point. If I need to add a cosmetic change to a 7 series flagship, the “BMW M Catalogue” has lots of choices of oem bolt on parts.

[@kunaalsharma1039]

Save the V12, V10 & V8

[@suprememaxpayne]

Gas guzzler tax in France is going from 20 000 Euros to 30 000 next year!

[@carycoller3140]

It's sad how much plastic is under that hood. That said, BMW has the best back seat tables of ANY luxury auto maker. Every other back seat table has a hinge in the middle. BMW made the table top flat. Makes sense to me.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

When you need to run 10’s in your limo

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

I have my 5 year goal car. I'm putting $65k in Amazon stock. I'll take the profit and buy a jet. The $65k is for this car in 2025.

[@omarileedelegance]

#perfection

[@dsp1970]

Rich man's 70's something car with money to burn! I'd rather have a Porsche Panamera sedan S or GTS. Thats what I's buy. V12 is a beast though!

[@paullacey2999]

They make V12s,without horrible big grilles.Now the smaller engines need huge grilles for cooling.That doesnt make sense...BMW isnt doing it for me anymore....Their new styling is a shambles.

[@kevinbarry71]

Aluminum valve covers? Are you sure that's a BMW? Normally most of their under hood parts are fisher price; except they don't last nearly as long

[@SlowDriver2024]

Neither, just lease one is ok, let the next guy worries about those resale and maintenance costs.

[@MotoManTV]

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[@jorgbrouwers5099]

V12 all day long, just the sound of the engine start is enough for me to choose the V12 😍 a BMW should not be anything other then a 6 cylinder or a V12 in my opinion.

[@superset5]

the resale value on the 760's is horrible much like any other expensive sedan.

[@hagenherrmann8204]

Will pick one up in 5 years for $25k lol

[@daveshelton4087]

i own 4 ( yes four m760Li xdrive's 2017 & 2018 cars ) have tried the X7 dont like it as much ,this is the last of the V12 cars from BMW , 1 of mine is chipped VERY QUICK !! but VERY WELL BEHAVED , as the warrinties run out they will all get the same rolling road upgrade from my race shop 50% extra TQ is a very worth while extra !! and i dont drive fast ( but fast it can do verry well if needed ) i know i wont ever be able to replace these later so ive covered my ass by having extra while they were available xx im happy ( i dont give a monkeys what others think ) i put my dosh where my mouth is -PS i sold my ghost at 123,00 miles to get this modle ,these are better and you dont get the jealousy with the M 7 ( most peopler dont know what the m7 V12 is ) pps the tuned m760 is returning me 25mpg ( English gallons ) the non tuned 610bhp are almost the same ( 1,000rpm at 50mph prob explains this ) and ped reconision is magic safty feature

[@dkentmd]

Dave, what type of chip? I have a 2018 M760ix with only 15 K miles

[@daveshelton4087]

@@dkentmd i know i said CHIPPED but its been on a 4 wheel linked dyno rolling road , ( it has to be 4 wheel linked ) and held in manual a nd not let go over 120 mph ( at 120 they change to 2 wheel drive ,and the dyno would go nuts ) i did buy 2 different chip pacages from the net ( was not happy with either of them ),we do have our own race cars and this is the dyno shop we normaly use , the guy there realy knows what to do to get what you want from each motor ,he was running this up for a while before he smiled !!!

[@CordayCorday]

Gas tax a Cali thing

[@MotoManTV]

Uh, no. Pretty much everywhere. And not just US. Comes up in many forms.

[@MrAlpinab7]

Why do those bastards do this to cars ? What are the reasons behind it ? I'm absolutely sure the "pollution" doesnt come from car engines, at least not gas/petrol cars, most likely from disgusting diesel, if any significant pollution came from cars.

[@MotoManTV]

OEMs are an easy target. Have been for years. Logistics firms and power generation is where you move the needle . . . but that takes decades and lots of money to change - even a little - and of course, most politicians do not understand the concept of long term.

[@TMS5100]

No way no how is this $180k special.