The 2003 BMW 7 Series Is the Most Controversial BMW Ever Made

[@CaptainSaltyDawg]

The longest running controversy on this channel has been Doug's 2 t-shirt style. ...

[@hampstershat123]

Pretty sure it's so he doesn't sweat through the outside shirt, that's why I do it sometimes when it's hot out.

[@joshuad1716]

He’s said that he does it so he doesn’t sweat through and get the owners interiors gross, since he doesn’t use the AC when he reviews the cars because it would blow on the mic

[@lenny6281]

@Scroto T Baggins not sure, might've been a Q&A on More, when he still used that channel. i do remember hearing him talk about it though

[@MassimoPirrone94]

He’s a sweaty boy

[@chartreux1532]

I'm pretty sure at this point Doug makes sure to always wear 2 t-shirts because even when he was new into reviewing in his early videos i remember people pointing it out and asking why he wears 2 t-shirts. Since that day, he always wore 2 t-shirts. I'm sure he does it to embrace the meme haha

[@vuphanq10]

The good old day when the headlights are bigger than the grill

[@HushPuppy-be8it]

🤣🤣🤣

[@BestMotorWerks]

Lol.

[@awsomemodels]

So sad it's the opposite now I can't stand these new massive grills :(

[@chilledgaming7845]

True

[@abrahamg3354]

I wonder if this car he reviewed has the might vision option

[@pascutia]

This car was such a massive leap forward technologically speaking when it came out. Also, I don’t know of many cars that have better rust-proofing than the E65 7 series. In the Midwest, you notice this sort of thing when most cars that are 7-8 years old have rust starting. I’ve never seen an E65 with rust yet.

[@Ennui.]

A little french car, the first gen Renault Twingo has a zinc treated body... Literally rust proof, and there's a lot of them here still driving around at 30/20 years old (mind you, i live on the coast, so occasional seaspray is not unusual)...

[@jesusb9562]

Yeah you do notice. It's also highly dependent on how the well the owner took care of the car too. Most rusty cars I see in Northern Illinois are hondas and American cars. It's almost always civics, trailblazers, and rusted out jeeps.

[@Tonyx.yt.]

yeah but too bad E65 is a litteraly nightmare for long term reliability

[@MrJustapersn]

That's because none of them lasted long enough to become rusty

[@jesusb9562]

@@MrJustapersn lol

[@francek6016]

Every time I see this white 7 series, first thing that comes to my mind is "Every day im hustlin" by Rick Ross!

[@king_dj3969]

This is so true 😁

[@tuzzu903]

745, white-on-white, that's fuckin' Ross

[@tiger_lord305]

Man of culture right here lol

[@weloveyouuaj]

uncle used to own a 7 series like this one in white, one of the primary reasons he got it is due to the fact he saw rick ross wit one.

[@shymkent]

True

[@bronson7279]

A friend of mine pre-ordered one, when it was not yet in the showrooms. Man, was he surprised. He wanted his old one back, immediately.

[@Kryojenix]

Well, that was dumb!

[@SURENITY]

It was a piece of crap.

[@oshogweikekhai5499]

I liked it be cause my passengers could not just begin touching and trying to change system...😀😀. Nice car overall

[@MartinAston00]

Why ?? He obviously knew how it looked before buying…. and they ran fantastic when new. Soooo it was nothing but a massive upgrade. Makes no sense, he goes through the effort to get it quick/early, then hates it 🤨

[@oshogweikekhai5499]

@@MartinAston00 this is the internet, where lies sell😄😄

[@cop2506]

Dang I remember when my classmate’s dad got this car. He was a VERY hard working man, loved his family to the ends of the earth. His wife supported him, and he showed IMMENSE respect to his family. They owned a business or something. They pulled up one day and we were like WOAH. He was NEVER pretentious about it. He was always thanking people for complimenting his car, and he never let it get to his head. Good man :) Probably why I love BMW’s… because of him Lol he set a great example, just because you drive a nice car, doesn’t mean you’re better than anyone else

[@stevenbeall9637]

So you're saying he was unlike 95% of all the other BMW owners?

[@oliverg6643]

BMW is 🗑

[@abovenbeyondlimits81]

Go tell that dude . Give him his flowers now while he alive

[@hellaflush49]

Alot of people who drive bmws and Mercedes think they shit dont stink and majority of them think they better than others still.

[@sidshady7413]

He sounds like a good person. But say that to most of the other BMW owners and literally all tesla owners (douchebags).

[@Rascofresco11]

The E65 forums are going nuts, Doug’s finally reviewing their car

[@kenniboii192]

*E 65 owners a few weeks from now* "87,000 miles, 3 owner, only 1 accident and minimal maintenance every 3 years, $75,000 I know what I got, ask Doug"

[@qx4n9e1xp]

😂 Doug's take are like high-honors now.

[@bmw3-er]

Loool

[@jissanhuq3792]

They can exclaim in between their early bird dinners and naps

[@TheChocolateChamp]

@@kenniboii192 lol lol lol

[@LowEnd31st]

I’ll never forget working at a bmw dealer when these came out, everyone was talking about how they had the most computers in any car ever made. Soon after, they came in droves for service, they would be sitting in the shop with wires coming out from every orifice for diagnostics/testing etc.

[@maveriky43]

Ha I remember being a valet in 2003 and parked this car. I had to be given a quick class by a co-worker on how to drive it with that shifter. Lol. Was an amazing car back then.

[@ezduzit201]

haha i remember that new shifter .. a challenge for everyone lol .. a great car nonetheless!!

[@petterderter6354]

try 2008 to 2010 max

[@partaapgosal6429]

Although controversial, this car technology wise was ahead of its time. So many of these new features are now standard in our modern cars almost 20 years later

[@berrymucuckiner4890]

Yeah. But, they didn’t work back then… not for long that is.

[@theschof96]

Ahead of its time, just not quite refined.

[@paulsz6194]

Just Implemented way better... It’s like they didn’t even get feedback from previous model 7 series owners before they implemented this drastic change. They made it easier for customers to choose an S-class instead.

[@TylerGeho]

Let me add that I have a 2010 3 series and almost everything from this car is in my car down to the illustrious on the buttons 😂

[@rickc303]

That's how the 7-series is, same as my 1990 750iL, throttle by wire etc

[@ziggyz8345]

i gotta say they certainly made it look futuristic, that doesn't even look like a design made in the early 2000s, it looks more like 2010-2015

[@MultiWalrus1]

The design has aged really well.

[@1GQ_gent]

That's why I bought one in 2014 it was an 05' executive car previously owned this car definitely scaled me to the next level of opportunities

[@SaifAli-so8kc]

Ziggy Z bro u r right exactly as u said

[@ArneBilinski]

Stevie Wonder would agree...certainly.

[@Vento9110]

Thats the thing. This car couldve been designed yesterday, its quite timeless after you get over few minute details; for example the rear lights.

[@mohammadalhusaini1115]

This really was a game changing car at the time. It looked and felt like the future. I remember my dad picked one of the earliest models up and it was a V8. Boy was that the most expensive car to maintain ever. The thing I think was missed is how absolutely incredible the interior styling was. The materials, the fit and finish and the new way of addressing the interior was in my opinion the biggest leap from my perspective. Even the door locks had this nice matte finish. The cup holders and the seat controls all felt very premium. It was a true departure from previous generations. The top lighting panel too that felt super premium. I wish they had better power trains but I think a lot has to do with the pioneering drive-by-wire tech used in the car.

[@sonnyblack0870]

Yeah controversial as it was it immediately made the S-Class at the time, which came out only 2yrs prior, feel suddenly old. I always sorta liked the styling of this generation 7, I thought it had great road presence, and while not my favorite it’s still better looking than the current 7 imo. Also this generation still retained that athletic BMW spirit being more enjoyable to drive than the two generations of 7 that followed.

[@kidfoodieusa3806]

I can second that especially with the expensive to maintain part my parents had a 2003 745Li and after the transmission was replaced at 77k miles the alternator went out the day it was given back from the dealer in 2007.

[@mohammadalhusaini1115]

@@kidfoodieusa3806 as much as I loved the car I feel like my dad must have absolutely detested the problems that came with that first gen. Funny thing is I think BMW really ironed all of that out pretty well. We recently picked up a 740Li and it’s been absolutely bullet proof. Service costs are practically nonexistent

[@JSS75]

My father was fortunate enough to make some extra money in 2003 and he was so excited about hunting for a large sedan he always wanted. Brought back good memories of helping him look, this, the S-Class, and the A8 L. He ended up with the A8 L as it featured a lot of the same features but came in at a lower price, and oh boy it was so cool. I wasn’t very old and I’ll never forget the size of that backseat and the amazement when I saw things like heated rear seats and a mirror for the backseat as well. What a great little time trip back to some fun memories. And some less so, like him putting 80k miles on a $80k car from 2004-08 and selling it for $22k. Or the hilarious electric issues he got like the car sitting there completely turned off, empty and randomly turning the radio on at full blast. He went away from the German cars after that and drives a Toyota now after having his fun and then wanting something rock solid. But wow what a trip back! Thanks Doug.

[@iiipercenterpatriot4266]

Should have gone with a lexus lol. Live and learn.

[@jaekn]

And that's why you was only "fortunate" enough to have some money almost two decades ago... horrible with money.

[@JSS75]

@@jaekn he just moved on to more reliable cars 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ could’ve bought more German cars if he wanted but saw the investment issue

[@ClawedOrb55]

@@jaekn and hows your money looking bud? I doubt you have it “Like That” lol

[@robbieshaft]

@@iiipercenterpatriot4266 naa, too boring

[@squiffels2494]

Idk about it being the most controversial 7 series, I’d look up the 2023 model

[@joshgalka9414]

???

[@JamesD401]

Looks like a rolls Royce almost

[@justinminer1354]

Those new headlights are really going to appeal to the Asian market 😑

[@anrktcjj]

Looks kinda like a Mirai with kidney grilles

[@galil_6863]

As always, the enormous grille ruins everything

[@harrysmbdgs]

I’m 28, and I’m not ashamed to say I have always loved the “Bangle Butt” design, especially the split LED tail lights. As a bit of a cars and electronics geek, these were some of the first automotive LEDs I had ever seen, which I thought was really cool, and I still think they look quite elegant today. I also think BMW’s interior design during this era was impressively timeless.

[@oumaniac]

The E65 was a sales success, easily surpassing its predecessor. So really...no need to be ashamed. Many people liked it and put money where their mouths were.

[@sunnysaenngarm5375]

i don’t mind the design also. nothing controversial in my eyes but, if the tail lights weren’t split from the trunk and connected with the rest, it might looked better imo

[@berrymucuckiner4890]

Magnitudes less elegant than the E38!

[@Blast6926]

Always loved it too when i was a teenager!

[@DowncastParadox]

I'm 39 and I _hated_ this and any other Bangle design from the moment I laid eyes on it. And I strongly suspect most people who like it today were either very young when it came out, if born at all, or just didn't like BMWs up to that point. And of course, if you only compare it to other cars of its era, it's not as bad - but BMWs used to be quite good looking up to that point, and all of that ended because an American, of all people, was in charge of the new look. I clearly remember thinking "Dear god! I'm finally making a decent amount of money but now I can't buy a BMW because all new models will look like shit for the foreseeable future!". And that's exactly what happened. I don't know the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was mostly the foreign market that was responsible for the E65's success. American taste and regulations had A LOT of influence over German carmakers in the past 20 years and I dare say it made them worse. Gah, I get angry just thinking about it...

[@and0pand0]

I've been a BMW tech for 15 years and I have always loved E65s. Yes they're a pain in the ass but I love the look and this vehicle pioneered technology used today... when you work on them, you see how different they are from any other of the bmws of that generation and that just adds to its charm.

[@caha9583]

How do you mean? I thought the e60 was quite similar, just a bit smaller.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

"The most controversial car BMW ever made." /me laughs in i3.

[@jonathanluttner9832]

iX 😂🤮

[@DingusMan6000]

@@jonathanluttner9832 **Laughs in G80 M3**

[@tomchillen3039]

@@joeyjoejoejrshabadu KZbinr

[@cedrienenglish6344]

Hilarious 😂

[@gui18bif]

Well that was a one off car. The 7 is iconic...

[@leedehao]

BMW, 2003: controversial styling at the rear, 2020: controversial styling at the front

[@raynor2690]

@@premanyoutube4725 no

[@TheRealestTopG]

As a Mercedes fan, the front doesn't look that bad on the 2020 7 series

[@05council49]

@@TheRealestTopG I mean the mercedes front end isn't that much better

[@justbudd1886]

Doug bias against bmw cars

[@TheRealestTopG]

@@05council49 which model are you talking about

[@alonshvo1]

Hey Doug First of all this vehicle DID came with a proximity key option, pretty rare but it’s existed. Second those wheels also been shared with the Alpina B7.

[@machtschnell7452]

I think those are actually Alpina wherls.

[@daminharris3879]

@@machtschnell7452 Yes but the 760 came with those wheels also

[@gaby8583]

I'm not sure they are shared with the Alpina B7, they remind me of the Alpina Z8 wheels but the are 15 spokes and I think Alpina 20 have always had 20 spokes

[@daminharris3879]

@@gaby8583 u are correct Alpina b7 has the signature multi spoke rims n these I agree look like the Z8 wheels

[@InfamousWolf89]

I remember reading an interview with Chris Bangle and he said that he was happy that his design provoked emotions like that and how some people would walk up to the car and secretly touch it. It may not have been the prettiest car, but it was certainly striking and helped bring BMW into the modern era, especially with the cars that followed like the Z4, 6-Series, X3 and more.

[@baron_xd4633]

Chris bangle is incredibly underrated. I just bought a 1 series, and it looks incredibly fresh for its age - while I remember very well the criticism it got when it came out

[@galil_6863]

Apparently the car automatically starts playing "Everyday I'm hustlin" whenever you drive into Miami

[@gedaman]

It tries to hide its controversial past too.

[@aidenp5768]

Rick Ross made a video on that song with the 7 in it. Back then people loved itBMW fans hated it. LCI is gorgeous though.

[@briengakaplan-b1550]

He's even driving the cartel white color.

[@jtpug777]

Doug's into distribution

[@interceptor90ify]

745 white on white thats phucing Ross

[@MrJbhunter11]

I grew up with this car. My mom got rid of it about 7 years ago now. She loved it. The funny part is the drivetrain never gave her a single issue but it was always the little electronics and sensors etc. that made the car a nightmare to live with.

[@warrengeew]

I own a black 2008 730d. It's the engine to go for. M57 is bulletproof and gives you minimal problems. And later facelifts look much better.

[@1GQ_gent]

They suffer from electronic gremlins

[@michaelbamber4887]

@@warrengeew yeah, mine is a 2005 730d, face lift. With everything on. Heat an cooled seats, fridge, etc. Went out yesterday an did 374 mile round trip, no problem, 34mpg.

[@michaelbamber4887]

@@1GQ_gent no they don't, everyone says this shit. If your battery isn't good, the car has a paddy an throws its toys out of the pram. If you get gremlins, put a new battery on.

[@thelegend6911]

@@michaelbamber4887 I wish more ppl knew this, I have one and it runs great but glemins but a new battery does trick

[@leef1500]

I still remember to this day, the 2002 DC auto show I was 13. The BMW section was absolutely flooded with people waiting to get their close up with the new 7 series. I waited for probably 30 minutes to get my turn to sit inside, I was absolutely amazed at the tech this thing had compared to literally everything else at the show. I mean this car blew my mind, I still remember seeing that phone dial pad slide out of the dash and thinking this was legit James Bond's car. Funny how that stuff sticks with you.

[@jmin8400]

This was in early development during production of Tomorrow Never Dies, with the movie being a test bed for BMW.

[@leef1500]

@@jmin8400 yup such a cool car for the time, and styling controversy aside, it was a game changer for how mmi displays would evolve in the car industry.

[@Llamanator1]

I actually like the Bangle design with hindsight. The Bangle designed 6 series is one of my favourite modern BMWs, especially as an M6. However, the interior design of this 7 series has not aged well. So much plastic everywhere and the glossy wood cheapens it immensely. Think it’s taken a lot of time for BMW to improve their interiors to their current level of quality.

[@brSiRiuS]

I find the 7 series of this era really pretty, the Bangle rear end quite attractive and suits the car well overall. The 6 series Bangle rear tho, I hate it. It didn't worked at all as coupe imo.

[@ricky-sanchez]

I see what Llamanator1 is saying. The bangle butt is very ugly, but there are some who do like it ....

[@GS-zc4sk]

Yes the interiors in slightly used condition are not my favorite

[@zsszeli]

I used to think Bangle BMW’s are ugly, until they released the new 3/4 series with those nostrils. Now I kinda like Bangle BMW’s design.

[@abrahamg3354]

I actually like the interior, it has aged very well. It doesn't look that different from later models of different series.

[@tfi7378]

Doug: This is the most controversial BMW ever made. New 3/4 series: Hold my big ass grill

[@MotorTorq_ZA]

BMW Ix says hello

[@MotorTorq_ZA]

New 2 series has entered the chat

[@patrickmason6971]

You guys are too young to understand how controversial this car was. The technology was weird and all new and the design language was a complete separation of normal BMW design language.

[@MotorTorq_ZA]

@@patrickmason6971 ok mr serious 🧐

[@alexmendoza8823]

@@MotorTorq_ZA 🤣🤣At least the ‘21 bmws that aren’t M’s like the M340! Don’t have as big grills as the M3 per say

[@AlecKristi]

You can change radio presets from the steering wheel buttons, as well as the d-keys on the head unit. You don't have to press to confirm mode selections unless you start from the menu, and after a software update even that was selectable by pressing and holding the knob down in the menu mode. Also, in decades of owning multiple of these cars, I have NEVER EVER had to use climate screen, except for curiosity, and once per season to adjust the "feel" temperature, as the "auto" mode is perfect, and "Max AC" and "Defrost" buttons took care of the excessively hot and cold days. Additionally, for people who don't like going through menus - the car has a perfectly fine voice control system that works. Also, the bangle butt being ugly is a matter of opinion, even if the majority think it's ugly - there is plenty of people who liked it, and to me it looked good from day one, and still looks good. This car and its technologies is still giving most of TODAY'S cars a run for it's money, especially with how cheaply you can purchase one of these now. The infotainment system still sounds better than 99% of what you buy today, and once you retrofit Bluetooth - has all the functions that you'd use anyway in the 2021 model cars... This car was good, still is good, and I still own one, thoroughly enjoy it, and don't plan to get rid of it.

[@paulconradfrank8730]

This dude is clueless. Also, the bangle butt was copied by Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan,

[@andreasakritas]

The infotainment system sounds very flat and muffled. Like almost ALL BMW OEM sound systems. But then again, they make cars, not sound systems. Also by retrofitting bluetooth, you do not get everything that 2021 cars have. Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, Screen Mirroring etc etc :)

[@AlecKristi]

@@andreasakritas couldn't disagree more on the system sounding "flat and muffled"... I don't know what "BMWs" you had misfortune of listening to, but all the ones I owned with an exception of the base E46 sounded amazing, and certainly better than any other brand of car I've ever been in. Also, I didn't say "get everything you get in a 2021 car" - I've said "use everything you'd use in a 2021 car", which for me is Bluetooth playback and calling. All other stuff is chafe and is not necessary to have a great infotainment system.

[@NudelKungen.]

@@AlecKristi I agree, although I drove my cousins new 2021 S90 T8 with the Bowers and Wilkins sound system with the 32 speaker setup and it completely blew me away, everything else that has always sounded really good now sound Okay.

[@UKRAINIANARCHIVE]

@@NudelKungen. logic 7 in this car is just on another level even in 2021

[@ivannarvaez367]

I am shocked at how well preserved this specific 7 series is, just beautiful condition. The tech in these is still really good which tell you how advanced they were back then. I really liked that the interior was totally different from the lower models, something you don’t see anymore.

[@almighty1158]

The i7 is way different than a 3 series interior today

[@VaughnMcGregor]

I remember when I was in college back in the day (when this car came out) and my father's friend had a white one just like this one in the video and my mind was blown 🤯 !! He was nice enough to allow me to sit in it and I felt like I was in a Spaceship. Till this day, it still looks great to me. The styling and design language of this car aged very well in my eyes. They kept true to this look up until the recent one that came out a couple of years ago with the super big kidney grille. Dope ass car 👌🏾 (but that iDrive knob would drive me crazy for overcomplicating the simplicity of everything).

[@Mostdope5o]

Doug is having a stroke describing the idrive system.

[@Axearis]

yup

[@patrickbateman6885]

The first gen iDrive wasn’t very easy to understand. The second gen in my 2011 E90 323i was much easier to use.

[@mtfan]

I’d have a stroke just trying to use the I-Drive system.

[@oumaniac]

And describing it wrong.

[@BeesonsCars]

Even though these are money pits, I see these driving around quite often probably powering through multiple malfunction messages.

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Yup and sensors and dash light problems

[@1GQ_gent]

Of course all my 7's had electronic gremlins and major transmission issues along with leaks looks on everything it's personality was evil the middle of the night malfunctioning in desert heat unreliable

[@izza_movie_lyrical_tv9617]

@@1GQ_gent Man i jus litteraly got rid of my beautiful 7 series the looks was everything but the mechanism works was a nightmare from the blown headgaskets and the failed transmisson issues also the power went out from not programming the 🔋 had way to many issues with them bmws than i can afford😌 they are VERY unreliable cars in the long run unfornaturely

[@darriuss4574]

And they still look good 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@currenlydying]

my dad had an e38 7series that HE BEAT to death lmao I'm talking trips to the sahara every year, no service at all, literally nothing worked on it and BMW even programmed the infotainment screen to be disabled and only do radio because of how broken everything was. But mechanically, if you ignored the engine knocking, immense fuel consumption to to a MAF disconnected and the random leaks that seemed to appear and disapear, it fucking went, it didn't want to die !!! It lasted about 17 years and the transmission finally went out, we sold it for 600 euros to some guy that was passionate about e38s and wanted to renovate it. He came back a few months later with it purring like new and he painted it black, was so nice to see it finally received the love it desserved ! Im gonna try to buy an e38 in the future because it just looked so good and drove so nice !

[@rudolfvanderven]

"Reviewed by Doug DeMuro"" * value shoots up by 50%*

[@NewAgeDIY]

Amazing how that works for him.

[@RandomlnternetGuy]

So like 10k instead of 5k. These are so cheap (not the v12s)

[@pelvicthrust119]

Its at 1200 on c&b right now

[@codexnecro666]

Is no-one else surprised that Doug said that he was 14 when this came out, making him only 31 years old!

[@drunk1kangaroo]

I never actually thought about it but I would've guessed he was at least 40.

[@latvija222]

Yup, I am shocked.

[@firstnamelastname6711]

Same here I thought he 40-45 lol I’m 35 tho

[@kayrokk]

He's 33, DOB May 22, 1988. Surprised me too when I learned of his age, especially since that means he's only 8 days older than I.

[@firstnamelastname6711]

@@kayrokk that’s crazy

[@saillupus]

When you will go to I-drive settings and turn on the "sport" you will add to handling at lest 2 points. On steering wheel you have sport for transmission, but sport for steering and suspension were hidden in settings - could be assigned to the star button as I remember. I had 2003 760i couple years ago. And it drives on twisty roads better than e39 wit M-package suspension. It drives faster and sharper. Even when we were comparing with e60 M5 (on the road, not race track), we were driving pretty close together. Climate control for rear seats were available too, as an option, which this car don`t have. But it was - two separate climate zones for rear seats with two climate panels on the innerliner. For rear seats there was in option, an entertainment system with separate screen and own I drive. This car have few other interesting features too. First Dynamic bixenon with lighting direction change with steering wheel. Windshield whippers angle were changing depending on speed and whippers wear. First car with optical fiber for multimedia. V12 had few other features which V8 don`t have. Alcantara inneliner, more wood in interior. Wood trim dedicated only for V12. Leather on dashboard... This was a great car, the best in its class, much farther then all competitors. After that car I bought Mercedes V12 which was a one generation newer (2007). And even after one generation Mercedes wasn't even close to quality, handling, comfort, entertainment and this gorgeous seats.

[@MS7.7]

Yeah this car itself is a legend. My father owned BMW 745Li 2004 back then and it was Loaded. The approximty key he mentioned is wrong we never needed to insert the key to start, some models just didn't have that option. Also in 2004 they change iDrive to have 2 more buttons next to it "Menu and Favorite" and there was no need to press it twice to confirm. Also there was a seek/next channel button next to the CD so I don't know we didn't he mention it. Driving this car is something out of this world and it was fast and agile with respect to its size and weight, even it had rear wheel steering as option aka integral steering. Our car had the top rear ac vents and rear refrigerator and Siemens phone in rear armrest and front drawer. For the AC you can literally see the option to change where the air come from that bar with arrow actually is something unique that let you adjust precisely how much air you want that area to push. Ambient lighting all around and I think it is very beautiful car and paved the way to the cars we see today. Yes alot of mechanical/electrical problems but when it's working it's like a dream!!! A trick for shades is to hold rear shade button and it will open/close all the shades together.

[@oumaniac]

@@MS7.7 exactly. The key insert crap showed he didn't do much research on this video...or he desperately wanted more "quirks and features" lol

[@MS7.7]

@@oumaniac This also doubled as Obd2 info. When I took the car to the dealer they insert the key in the car and it will store all the information, mileage and any error codes if present on the key. Then they put the key in the computer to see all the information. That was amazing!!

[@GeeEm1313]

TLDR: confusing car

[@rotorhead5826]

@saillupus - Thanks for taking the time to make this comment. Good info!

[@speddytaghetti7905]

18 years old and it still has the best rear window shade setup ever!

[@wittech6116]

Except it broke if you sneezed at it….

[@99Lezard99]

thats something to be proud of is it? 😂

[@Kryojenix]

My car's 19 years old and has the same rear sunshade ... well, except you have to ask a front-seater to put it up or down.

[@danielhristov6175]

@@speddytaghetti7905 ive always hated them on any car. Always ruined by the sun, impossible to find and replace making the car look like a junk yard special after only 10 years. Tinted windows are the way to go. (The trully black ones, not the purple looking cheap ones and applied by a professional with 0 bubles not by a man with 2 left hands)

[@viesuliss12]

We had this car for 12 years. Here's one of the things i want to mention: The iDrive, in my experience, was not horrible. You got used to changing the stations with the knob and going to your presets. The screen always started with the FM screen, it wasnt a big issue. About the venting. You didnt mention there are buttons on side to change where the air blows. Never dealt to go in iDrive and change it, always used the buttons. The Auto mode worked perfectly on it and, when needed, we just changed it to blw on front window. Thats it. IT WAS NOT HORRIBLE as you say it now.

[@waheedali2429]

We should never take those so called car enthusiasts opinions seriously i just enjoy watching the cars nothing more

[@GoldenCroc]

You are correct but from the perspective of a lot of customers it was. Anything that isnt 100% intuitive and "Always like it has been" draws heavy criticism from many customers.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

Sometimes people don't like big changes.

[@tomchillen3039]

Sprogis

[@DuBstep115]

@@slowanddeliberate6893 Yeah like never, people are so stupid that they don't understand what is best for them. Like people are literally crying C8 Z06 is not push rod anymore

[@diogomou1]

Doug's description of this car's controversy and how everyone talked about it back then, reminds me A LOT of the new M4 / 4 series when it came out

[@jalos012]

Take a shot of tequila every time Doug says “controversial”

[@jakelannetti3128]

3 minutes in and I’m permanently blind

[@professorking5152]

im drunk

[@k.r.99]

Take a shot of any energy drink everytime he starts a sentence with "AND ..." and you'll start flying after the video.

[@kalle9777]

why garbage tequila

[@yigithan3713]

drunk already

[@mattymrj01]

The E38 actually had adaptive cruise as well, it was a very rare option.

[@987ntn]

But how do they scan the speed of the cars around? Some kind of proximity sensor?

[@comeberza]

@@987ntn ultra sound or beam sensors have been around for ages

[@Kevin-mr7jv]

Wtf, I need a E38 with adaptive cruise now

[@GunsNGames1]

@@Kevin-mr7jv I just want one with the V12

[@hellkitty1014]

@@Kevin-mr7jv my aunt had a E38 750 with ACC. LOVED that car until some drunkard hit it and totaled it. That car was the pinnacle of German engineering.

[@jjojo2004]

That IDrive System was similar to the Audi MMI System in that all the car’s systems are connected by a fiber optic cable system. It was problematic because the system needed ALL modules to be in good operating condition to “pass along” the fiber optic signal. If one module failed, let’s say the satellite radio module, the ENTIRE system goes down. Then it becomes a PITA for the DIYer to track down the faulty module to troubleshoot the system.

[@augustocioffi3047]

I have owned a 7 series just like this one for about 15 years now, and what doug failed to tell you is that it is one of the coolest cars EVER made, the amount of technology in it is outstanding for a car that was designed in the LATE 90s and early 2000s! And he also failed to tell you that the infotainment is actually REALLY easy to learn, after owning this car for like a week you can get the hang of it real fast. Thats my take on the video

[@lalebustani1558]

Is it a good idea to buy one in 2022?

[@ZoomStranger]

what if you don't want to Learn your car? Sorry but if it's a modern and not intuitive, it's a fail from me. We had my wife's BMW for years and I never got the memory seat thing to work. Still, my favourite car is the roofless landrover I've had for 42 years, doesn't have self cancelling indicators - great by me.

[@assasinhard152]

​@@lalebustani1558no don't

[@dizzyzizzy8075]

I've just bought a 7series E65, in 2023, if its kept in good condition, theres no reason not to, it'll be a classic.

[@athertheraltor]

Sir you being an owner for 15 years must share your views on it as many of us here watching are possible buyers. Your opinion matters.

[@guse1219]

For better or worse, Chris Bangle has probably had more influence over the last 20 yrs than any other designer

[@2Bunphettered788]

His work definitely stood out. 😏

[@skf2]

Not only those designs were bad, but they also aged very badly. Sorry Chris.

[@1q2w3e4r5t6zism]

@@skf2 I think the E60 (5er) was 10 years ahead of its time. It looks really fresh today.

[@woocash2139]

I wish he didn't. Why was a German company using an American designer anyways?

[@gavcom4060]

@@skf2 really? his designs were way ahead of his time. especially the 5 series of his era. they still look relatively modern to this day. the e class of the same era looks way outdated

[@juho7271]

I was watching older Dougs and realized there has been a slight Flanderization throughout the years. Younger Doug was way less Doug and it felt like vacation to me.

[@thebestlaptime8669]

That’s the best way to put it

[@matthewrammig]

T H I S ! ! !… and it seem like his arms get longer every year 😅

[@SixSpeedSeven]

Yeah that’s fair but also Doug is a brand now. Gotta sell it

[@supersecularboypants]

Back then the “Quirks” were actually quirky.

[@juho7271]

@@supersecularboypants they were! Once everything becomes quirky, nothing is quirky anymore 😄

[@modellbahn9447]

You forgot a quirk: the rear passenger mirror cannot only be folded up and down but also swiveled left and right.

[@BrokenAdam770]

The first Lemon Zest mobile yo!

[@dhuwdhuwdhuw]

9:11 there is still a wireless phone in the first tray of the center console, there is also a small slot to put your sim card in, 20:30 you can also pull the rear passenger mirror and swivel it left and right, pretty quirky. AND just to flex, mine has the fridge and another pair of ceiling vents 😎

[@HarryMollyNut]

Why is NOBODY calling Doug out for NOT SHOWING US THE DAMN EXHAUST SOUND ????

[@rpsmith2990]

Probably because it's a V12 powered luxury car, and the exhaust sound is not the point. It's probably also too quiet to showcase anyway.

[@ELIJAH-lw6dq]

@@rpsmith2990 how do you actually know which one is on the streets both is “750”Li but some are V8 some v12

[@Entiz3000]

BECAUSE IT'S V12, BUT IN ELECTRIC!!!

[@almatatov9269]

750 was v8 760 was v12. Not that difficult Elijah

[@ELIJAH-lw6dq]

@@almatatov9269 I wonder how fast it truly was with all the weight

[@karan5m]

Just happy the cup holders didn’t bring much controversy.

[@chrismccarthy284]

Not sure if its an option, but mine are heated and cooled, whichever the climate control is on. Along with the center console!

[@SirValiantIII]

@UClZFgQQy2Tp9koY5d9hCYEw you just summed up my thoughts on my 750i completely

[@hughesj]

Both front an rear cup holders were broken on my e38 when I got it. I got working assemblies and now have to tell passengers not to use them

[@jaioncebollero1168]

@@hughesj how do e38 cup holders function? They pop out in some over engineered fashion in guessing lol

[@thecrazeecow1682]

Unlike my W211 lol

[@JR-eu9zi]

I’ve had this car, amazing drive, but guzzles gas like a monster and any repairs on this car is just…hectic

[@TodorKatsarski]

Nice! I actually always thought that it was beautiful and awesome, but I'm not surprised about the gas and repairs..

[@geraldwallsjr8380]

Make a since o have 650I I was thi k of upgrade to 750 or 760

[@dew4mine]

Doug, you should know that this BMW 760, and the 745 had an option called "Comfort Access" which gave you the option to unlock/lock the door with a touch of the door handle, and you could start the car without the key.

[@matte8441]

I work as a mechanic and one of my loyal customers has one of these. It’s really high mileage. It has around 186,000. Apart from leaking oil all the time all the electronics actually still work. I owned a more modern 335i at this car had more much more fuses.

[@randkamza1206]

I've had two high mileage e65s. One was at 240k, other was at 210k miles. Both had oil leaks. Some type of rubber plug by power steering or alternator leaks. Both had bad valve stem seals. Both through up codes for secondary air injection and cat codes. Both still drove amazingly well! Great cars!

[@CycoWarriorx]

Chris Bangle didn’t survive his designs… the tech problems didn’t help… btw, you can pick’em up cheap cause the tech/repairs were hella expensive… on top of it being expensive anyway.

[@chynacash3138]

Yeah these were pieces of shit but they had some cool little gadgets. I actually think it still looks halfway modern as old as it is.

[@hsavov]

A friend of mine had one of these, but a 740 while we were in high school and I had an Audi A8 4.2 petrol from the same time (D3). His car had way more things in terms of tech features and slightly more power (mine had more power stock, but he had put some chip to increase his), but my Audi was a better drive, was much simpler to use, and was much more reliable (the only real issue I had, although quite significant, was with the air suspension, whilst his dashboard was like a Christmas tree from warning lights most of the time. Still, we loved both of our cars and they sure were a valuable lesson moving forward.

[@jema5039]

@@chynacash3138 they still hold up their looks tbh

[@tntzimmerman9552]

“Hella”

[@1GQ_gent]

The soft close I missed that part and welcome lights

[@Kalepsis]

Doug: "Five steps to change a radio preset!" Me: presses button on steering wheel once, "Not that hard."

[@DougDeMuro]

Sure, assuming you know what position all your presets are in. Steering wheel button only goes next and previous, so if you're hunting for a preset it could take several presses. And of course the passenger has no steering wheel to use.

[@AspireGMD]

Ah, you have won the rare direct reply award.

[@2Bunphettered788]

@@AspireGMD 😄 I'm just as surprised as you!! 😄

[@nickodemusjohnson]

@@AspireGMD For Doug it was irresistible lol

[@TheZombieSlayer1155]

@@DougDeMuro the oassenger is not touching the radio in my car. Its a passenger

[@solid1378]

Meh, I think the car has aged well and still looks very modern. Today's tech has actually caught up to the car. The iDrive on this car is really not that difficult compared to the tech in today's autos.

[@ccvr6]

When this hit the streets in 2002, it was untouchable. Even exotics that cost well into the 6 figure range couldn’t hold a candle to it. It changed the direction of not only BMW, but the auto industry in general. Every flagship had to catch up to it.

[@ginaryan2093]

a candle to it in what way?

[@Nismoleb89]

Untouchable because it was so ugly... lol then the ones who did buy it, spent their time driving to dealership to get it fixed, you've clearly never owned one nor have you worked on one to know how bad these are. Fanboy to the max lol.

[@korloffkorloff2134]

@@Nismoleb89 LOL bmw fanboys are so cringy..."Even exotics that cost well into the 6 figure range couldn’t hold a candle to it. "...like what the fuck? 🤣🤣😂😂

[@ccvr6]

@@ginaryan2093 Innovation.

[@ccvr6]

@@Nismoleb89 Actually, I’ve been in and driven several. They are high-maintenance just like any other cutting-edge car, but still a remarkable vehicle for it’s time.

[@ChrisRollins]

Dougs youtube success is on another level! Regardless of my interest in a given car, ill watch it regardless because Doug did it.

[@MrCalverino]

real tlk 👌🏾😅

[@dollarn9ne]

How many times are you going to say "Controversial"? Doug: Yes

[@TheCostantinus]

The amount of time he says "controversisal" is controversial.

[@D-Khaz]

I’m pretty sure the two arrows next to the eject button are for changing tracks/presets in entertainment mode - not requiring messing with idrive controller

[@dustyloafers7448]

The irony of Doug talkin about ugly styling is not lost on me.

[@jissanhuq3792]

@PewDeiPei exactly. All the E3x people are ancient and I’m 40. Those cars off that era were so so generic. Every damn car looked l the same.

[@idkmyname_2007]

Probably my favorite generation of the 7 Series IMHO, especially with the V12 like this one

[@Deussues]

Same I really like this generation

[@idkmyname_2007]

These stupid bots I swear 😒

[@alisterelite9518]

This isn’t a 760

[@josephhardwicke6344]

cringe

[@idkmyname_2007]

@@josephhardwicke6344 what?

[@cedricwinters5656]

First saw this vehicle in Mob Deep's "Get Away" and instantly fell in love. As a current owner of the 745Li, let me tell you; there's no other sedan in the history of sedans that evokes the emotions that this one does. I have test drove just about every 2021-2022 vehicle in the luxury segment, and NOT ONE surpasses it. I always get a giggle from car enthusiasts who marvel at soft-close doors today, when this vehicle had them 20 years ago...This is by far the luxury sedan G.O.A.T!

[@vonversace]

Car was ahead of its time

[@machtschnell7452]

Only 7 Series to outsell MB S Series.

[@astroboi_9998]

@@VideoAmericanStyle agreed. This car sacrificed so much quality for tech. Can’t call it advanced for it’s time if every gadget is broken in it today. This ended BMWs greatest era for me

[@geraldwallsjr8380]

Is the 745li is better than thr 760? I wan the power but it seems o see more 745 than the 760

[@oumaniac]

@@astroboi_9998 Gadgets in mine all still work. Quit making things up.

[@lukaszoff]

I just discovered this channel. This man must have some Italian roots, I've seen Italians hand gesturing less than Doug has

[@sgfreak96]

The climate menu is hilariously complex and over-engineered. Absolutely insane.

[@xanksnap1457]

even in iDrive 7 they still love to over engineer the climate control stuff. they moved the 'hot/cold' vents thing to the idrive climate menu. you can change the intensity of the auto climate program for each seat. wholly over engineered.

[@bman1668]

Seriously just make hot cold on button menus that was over kill

[@ryguy32789]

Having owned an e60 5 series with the first gen iDrive, the journalists we're absolutely full of shit. It was certainty a departure from the norm, but it took like 2 days to get used to and I actually still prefer it to any touch screen system I've owned since. They just didn't give it enough time.

[@lukez1729]

The bmw I drive is the signal most copied automotive feature in the world

[@lukez1729]

@@xanksnap1457 good to keep the wife from bitching that it's to cold or hot on here face and feet

[@cupofjotv8195]

This car has probably the most comfortable seats I have ever had the pleasure of sitting in as a passenger. You literally set it up to perfect comfort.

[@KasumovMedia]

And the least perfect gear shifter IN EXISTENCE.

[@VWRGTI]

I was in a training in a BMW dealer, I sat in the back seat, I fell asleep immediately 😅

[@iancook2921]

Drove a 90's S600 mercedes that thing was so comfortable i nearly cried lmfao

[@vroooom]

"The 2003 BMW 7 Series Is the Most Controversial BMW Ever Made...and here's why I love it"

[@montereygolds]

@T a t s u h i s h a©🌹 really?! On Doug's review 😂 you know you've made it when sex spam makes it on your channel comments 👏🏾

[@montereygolds]

Car reviews love them, car reviews with female review sex scam in comments section, even better 😉

[@LeonardoHaut]

It has a horrible infotainment system and it's not pretty...big news !! it's on cars and bids for sale 😂😂 Doug is not the best car salesman

[@Dr.Bob85]

To think this was controversial, back then… looking at what Munich is designing currently, I like this one even more. Not in white though.

[@ezduzit201]

my pops had an 2004 745li and I used to drive it often when i had my learners permit and honestly this car was amazing!! Always turned heads on the street and the performance of it was undoubtedly instance compared to your everyday vehicles on the road... the tech on it as well was out of this world!!!! I can't believe I am just hearing about all these controversies !! By far one of the most fun, and adrenaline rushed cars I drove as a young teen

[@chuckfink8239]

These are my favorite Doug videos. He’s best when he’s educating. Really interesting to see how much that BMW has influenced all cars today. Cheers to Doug and all of his quirks and features.

[@jmin8400]

It's a good video, but it's not entirely accurate and a bit misinforming.

[@ge8198]

The holy grail of cars in the hood, with giant chrome rims and 90 day tags parked on the street next to subsidized housing projects.

[@dieselprime5386]

Compared with the New Generation of the 7 Series with a GIANT Grill and Chinese design, the E65 looks more beautiful

[@ASEG22]

Am I the only one who actually likes the car's look, its not bad at all.

[@TheKDKCollector]

No you're not. I also like the E65

[@chynacash3138]

This design was way ahead of its time. It still looks halfway modern today which says alot for a 20 year old design. Chris Bangle was on to something.

[@person.w9780]

@@chynacash3138 I'd say the E60 a s E90 also still look pretty damn modern.

[@oumaniac]

Definitely not the only one, since it was a resounding sales success.

[@Jon-yh3gb]

He shows the "ugly" and the "most beautiful" sedans and i couldnt help but think how much they both looked like a generic bmw to me.

[@petaaa5419]

I was born 2006, my dad got this back when it released, it was dark blue and I loved it, I'll never forget the memories I had in it until I was 6 years old when it got in a crash and my dad had to sell it, it was his first luxury car after he became a consultant doctor, now I'm 15 and I love cars

[@glennprivee639]

Its incredible how he can talk in such excitement yet in such a monotone voice... Still one of my favorite YTers :)

[@DanDan-tt6gv]

We got the BMW E65, and that’s where our love for bimmers started. Nine bimmers later, and we still love them, even after owning a few Mercedes, and many other car/suvs/trucks makes and models.

[@Jacobk66]

There was SO MUCH I wanted to know about this 7 Series I’ve never seen before! Thanks!

[@TheJetJONES]

You've NEVER EVER SEEN this 7 series? 😳

[@Jacobk66]

@@TheJetJONES That’s not what I meant, it was in regards to quirks/features like the shift buttons on the steering wheel.

[@frederiquekruger4818]

@@Jacobk66 it's a great car and ages well like the E38 in my opinion.

[@pajerofan22]

I really like the styling on this car. Even the real end looks fine to me

[@bobobibo2357]

My friend, a software technician, had to stop his 5 series every time he wanted to change some aircon setting :p

[@jeromep3182]

And yet it is the most sold chassis code through the 7 series history. Looks like success to me I love it

[@seansiew5629]

Correct, the same I could say for the G70 too,controversial now but later people would accept it

[@MrFlamingstick]

As a technician that works at a German vehicle specialty shop this is probably the first E66 I've seen where all the electronics are still working. Talk about an electrical nightmare to work on.

[@Frikoo]

If it had the comfort access(keyless entry) doors then they probably wouldn't have worked. That was the hardest part to repair on my E65.

[@MrFlamingstick]

@@Frikoo Still a big problem on the F series cars. It blows people's minds when you tell them they have a drivetrain malfunction because their $500 door handles are shorting.

[@SadisticCanada]

I always loved these cars but the horrible reliability keeps me away

[@dotto87]

In Australia, we called these Bangle Butt BMWs “taxis” because at the time, many taxis had these raised boots so that they could put an ad on their back.

[@mijnnaamisaaron]

ok

[@desire_002]

@@mijnnaamisaaron you okay bro? loser?

[@mijnnaamisaaron]

@@desire_002 Never let fear stop you from asking something you don't understand or know.

[@desire_002]

@@mijnnaamisaaron cooe

[@desire_002]

@@mijnnaamisaaron cope

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

The Alpina B7 E65 is actually gorgeous, like most Alpina touched BMWs, but their rear spoiler really takes the emphasis off the bubble butt of the normal E65.... you should really try finding some older Alpina's to review, even though I wouldn't mind the new B8 being reviewed either lol

[@iNotSoTall]

Oh man, this was my dad’s car when I was 15. Learned how to drive in this and it was SO cool as a teenager. I look fondly when I see one driving. Until they die via VANOS

[@beseakos]

VANOS really killed these. Especially the V8 ones.

[@gui18bif]

I had always thought that about the trunk, and Doug put it in words. I had never been able to. Two teams of designers, one designed the car and the other, the boot. It looks better when the boot is up!

[@lawl6374]

I actually find the 'Bangle-butt' design to be pretty good enough, like it is simple and subtle and I love how it integrates a sort of "boot spoiler" in the design. And I gotta say this, I most definitely think that the 2012 suzuki swift dzire's rear end design was definitely inspired this car's rear end design, since there's so many similarities between them. Great video yet again!

[@tattttu9]

Most people just hated it or hate it because they want to fit in the toxic part of the car community, just like people that hate prius, they are just jumping on the bandwagon

[@DuBstep115]

@@tattttu9 Bangle cars = gold. E92 M3, E63 M6, E65 Facelift and E85 Z4 M

[@philiiplucienuhrenholt5427]

I still love the interior of the E65.

[@beamerclub99]

the amount of times doug said “radical” is terrifying

[@callumdonington2227]

Have you been radicalized?

[@bonzobonanza]

The car was radical for its time. Just in a terrible, radical way.

[@bosneb]

He's secretly a Ninja Turtle

[@cupofjotv8195]

After driving this car, many have decided to make a pilgrimage to Syria

[@IK_MK]

You mean you didn't know.. Doug's the type of guy to say radical?

[@JohnPaulHare]

"Bangle butt" may be controversial, but I actually kind of like it. It suits the car, and it really did set apart this generation of BMW sedans from anything else in class.

[@vuelvoel2011]

Nobody cares.

[@cristianelpuma1045]

I like it too. I don't see the big deal people made back then.

[@sidshady7413]

The whole car just has aged incredibly well imo. People hated it when it came out as car design was taking on a more bulky approach compared to the more sleek and athletic older generation. But don't think if the same would happen with the new pig-face BMWs.

[@AhmedAdel-tn7pb]

THIS is my favourite type of Doug when he review older car , new cars became tasteless

[@piuthemagicman]

this is a new car 😅

[@AhmedAdel-tn7pb]

@@piuthemagicman I stated “older” not old

[@fancyyahoo]

The facelifted version of this is one of my most favourite BMWs. In fact, I love the Chris Bangle BMWs' facelifted versions, especially since they were available during my childhood, and the V10 in the M5 and M6 during that time... ❤️

[@babybenz.190]

The Mercedes W140 had a 400HP V12 in the 90s actually. BTW: I still think Doug should review a nicer example of a W140… an S600L (or 600SEL) should be it! In better condition also…

[@DuBstep115]

I mean 1995 SL 73 AMG had 525hp

[@francissanto12]

he’s already reviewed the s-class from that generation, don’t really see a point in him doing the one with the bigger engine

[@BigHersh75287]

I don’t care what anyone says, I have always loved the Bangle Butt 7-SERIES….

[@mducheine2784]

And probably more importantly, it outsold its predecessor E38 7-series by a mile. So, regardless of its controversial Bangle-butt and a lot of enthusiasts preferring the E38, the sales figures proved them wrong.

[@oumaniac]

Me too!

[@wqbb287]

Same it looks goof imo

[@adamczyzewski7357]

What I like about this car is how nice and coherent the interior elements look. Alone the infotainment knob looks better than in any of the later models!

[@chartreux1532]

+BigHersh75287 Did you get the 2005-2010 BMW M6 Coupe/Cabriolet in your Country? That ones was also super controversial from it's looks and now people love it's looks. Same with the 2003 7-series

[@qbertq1]

Doug: "I'm going to review your car before we list it on Cars and Bids" Owmer: "Awesome!" Doug's summary includes the phrase "fatal flaws" Owner: "Wait a minute..."

[@kennethatteberry6757]

@@yungboicontigo9278 wow bro... triggered much?

[@GageKerblowskiSchlongskiIII]

@@kennethatteberry6757 I guess the car IS pretty controversial huh?

[@TheChocolateChamp]

@@kennethatteberry6757 lol his name should tell you everything you need to know

[@alex_and_er_g]

I’m sure the current owner has experienced these flaws first hand, it becomes a fun game of ‘which error code next’ followed by ‘how much will it cost to fix’

[@kitica3121]

The gear changing mechanism is awsome becouse if you one hand for something you can still upshift-downshift with only one hand.

[@Ruthlesscoach]

In my opinion Chris Bangle had some of the best designs, especially the '04 6 series

[@RageCannon-tf3ob]

The E60 5 Series was criticized for being ugly, but it's aged well. I can see that Bangle was going for a futuristic design, way better than what they're doing right now

[@jensjohnson5209]

I agree the Bangle designs were amazing. If you look at other cars from the previous era everyone was copying BMW. You can’t tell the back end of a Honda, Toyota, Ford or GM car from that era because they all copied BMW’s look. The Bangle look gave the BMW’s a distinguished style. If I bought a BMW I want everyone to know and I don’t want it to look like a Chevy. Anyway car people are overly sensitive to change. I think Corvette goes through similar issues tire valve stem cap.

[@chiggamanchild]

The M6 E63 looked great

[@MegaEdge777]

Yea, but those trunks..

[@mohaleph]

Bangle's era was the golden time of BMW.

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

This 7 series has aged well in my book

[@8-CylinderVelocity]

Especially the E38.

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

@@8-CylinderVelocity well said

[@tobias_k01]

@@8-CylinderVelocity no, not really. The E38 looks REALLY old for it's age, especially when you put an E65 next to it. The E65 introduced new elements in design that were extremely innovative and are still relevant today. The E38 is very cool, but far too conservative to say that it aged well. There is a difference between timeless and time stable: the E65 is somewhat timeless, because it's design has elements that are still relevant. The E38 is time stable, because it definitely is visibly an old car, but it doesn't look odd or wrong next to more modern cars (which is the case especially with cars that used many design elements that were very specifically from a certain era / designs following main trends of an era).

[@electrikoptik]

It's clear that the only thing that has aged is your vision.

[@SixSpeedSeven]

@@electrikoptik got em

[@remythemaltipoo]

I had a 745li for many years. Mechanically it always ran well. It used to throw traction control code when making hard left turns, which disabled power steering and throttle in the middle of turning. It would re-set after cycling ignition. They could never figure it out. My main issue was interior quality. Strange cheap rubberized paint coating all over plastic parts started scratching and rubbing off just after warranty expired. Made car look like hell. I drive never gave me any problems.

[@carhawara3394]

I love that joke! "Ran well" and than tell it Stop steering on Hard lefts 🤣

[@alexflosho]

I don’t know, if the red lines on the trunk weren’t there, this actually looks pretty good to me!

[@fcv1967]

I bet those engineers thought they were the best in the world for making everything so complicated. Solving problems that didn't exist before.

[@saifsword3847]

this car has a screen ,,, ... u can do whatever after that

[@eriktenhag2022]

No what they did feel was they managed to create possibly one of the most, if not the most, technologically advanced car until that point.

[@fcv1967]

@@eriktenhag2022 I wonder why they stopped being number one in cutting edge tech and left it to Tesla instead?

[@GetPsyched6]

@@fcv1967 the throne is always open. You cant expect one company to be there forever

[@mcdoob]

Solution for selecting vents: hit auto. Solution for changing presets: use arrows on steering wheel. That wasn’t so hard. Lol

[@ginaryan2093]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Mike-xh1ev]

"There's a little button for SMD"

[@benjamingill9361]

LOL

[@dan82500]

That took me far too long and I disappointed myself.

[@bigb488]

Lmfao 😂

[@JaredConnell]

My parents bought one when they were new and my mom made my dad return it and get another 5 series because it was too complicated for her. She kept putting it into reverse on accident because of the weird column shifter. It wasn't just a column shifter, you had to push it up to go into drive and down to go into reverse, so if you've ever used a column shifter in any other car you think pull down a few clicks to go into drive but pulling down makes you go backwards. I absolutely loved it though, I was 16 at the time and I think I drove it more in the week or two we had it than my parents did lol

[@MBS..]

it is the easiest shifter ever... literally the first day I got in a E66 I knew how to put it into drive and reverse its common sense LOL