2020 Chevrolet C8 Corvette Z51 Stingray vs Lamborghini Huracan 580-2 | TRACK ATTACK | Episode 3

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@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for our friends at HotCars for writing this great article: www.hotcars.com/track-attack-canada-pits-corvette-z51-stingray-against-lamborghini-huracan-580-2/
@TheFrogga69
@TheFrogga69 4 жыл бұрын
It beat a super car, it’s a super car.
@ludda42
@ludda42 4 жыл бұрын
No; but that isn’t an accident. Corvette is more comfortable and practical which makes it a better streetcar but also excludes it from that extra special Supercar category. Part of the Supercar definition also includes rarity which again Corvette hopes to NOT have; they want to sell a lot of them
@chalee3484
@chalee3484 3 жыл бұрын
@@ludda42 Yeah, your right i would define this as a Sports Car the next Zo6 tho.... is no longer a sports car BUT A SUPERCAR!!!
@jedswift
@jedswift 3 жыл бұрын
@@chalee3484 I don't know, the Z06 might still be too comfortable and practical and not expensive enough. I mean it will still carry two people in comfortable seats, two golf club bags and an overnight bag and cost less that $200k. Exclusiveness, finicky system like fading brakes and $2k oil changes with jittery handling seem to be the defining characteristics of a "supercar". Being reliable is a bigger negative than being faster.(
@williewaset
@williewaset 3 жыл бұрын
If the Corvette only could cost three times as much and it had brakes that fade after a lap it could be a supercar.
@darrellshort5696
@darrellshort5696 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! And lets not forget the rountine maintenance cost that Lambo's and other "Super Cars" come with. Don't get me wrong, I love the European Exotics but it's great to have an American car that competes for 1/3 of the price.
@evilgeniusboy1878
@evilgeniusboy1878 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrellshort5696 Minimum of 600.00 just for oil change. Remember, most "rotors cannot be turned" (eg BMW) so when they wear out...OMG....I have friends with Ferrari(s) and they actually drive a Vette...as a daily driver....no joke.
@sammjackson70
@sammjackson70 Жыл бұрын
It's more of a super car than the stupid Mustang you Ford lovers
@GoGrandpa
@GoGrandpa Жыл бұрын
Obviously you have never driven the new Corvette just making shot up as you go along
@IndependenceCityMotoring
@IndependenceCityMotoring 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that GM invented magnetic ride suspension and Corvette was the first sports car to have it. So the Corvette has it perfected now, as compared to even the Italian supercars.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't GM sell it to Ferrari to use?
@IndependenceCityMotoring
@IndependenceCityMotoring 4 жыл бұрын
@@studio-flash Licensed to Ferrari.
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
so what? most vettes brake thanks to an italian company called brembo. There r several high performance ferraris which dont have magnetic ride and still do very well (eg sf90 with multimatic). Also if corvette is the best why the c8 is always compared to 5 years old lamborghinis or even 10+ years old ferraris? why not talking an f8 or a lambo actually in production?
@hershil12
@hershil12 4 жыл бұрын
@@j7b890 because the z06 is going to be more comparable to that.
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
@@hershil12 possibly
@Ezekiel-2517
@Ezekiel-2517 2 жыл бұрын
I've driven McLaren's, the Huracan, the Audi R8 and the Aventador. They are supercars, no doubt. I've also driven the C6 Zo6, C7 Zo6, The C6 Grandsport, C7 Grandsport, and I currently own a 2022 3Lt Z51 (fully loaded with a high end spoiler). I PROMISE you, this car is a supercar. It looks like one, feels like one, drives like one, accelerates like one, turns on rails like one, it's as wide as one, bulky as one, it is like one. It's not a muscle car, not the C8 3Lt Z51. Nope, it's still a track car, and now off the track, it's a supercar. Oh ya, it turns heads like one as well.
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 4 жыл бұрын
or compare C8 to any $80k sports car?
@drestep4830
@drestep4830 4 жыл бұрын
that is the weirdest specked c8 i have ever sence
@Andy-be6bp
@Andy-be6bp 4 жыл бұрын
Its the "McDonalds" spec. Dodge did that too with the Viper, except they put on Yellow rims... awful.
@diggerPD
@diggerPD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andy-be6bp OMF ! that's mcfunny.
@AFVetteran
@AFVetteran 9 ай бұрын
ketchup and mustard
@ashleymadison9380
@ashleymadison9380 5 ай бұрын
It's fugly!
@yusufgta4341
@yusufgta4341 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the Z06&ZR1 versions.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
We've already got a Z06 lined up for a review when they arrive. We are anxious to try it out!
@AP13P
@AP13P 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the Huracan STO.
@d_i_v_a7391
@d_i_v_a7391 4 жыл бұрын
@@AP13P A zr1 would beat it 🤣
@fragu123
@fragu123 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada ...but do yourself a favour and take a properly comparable European Sportscar against it and watch the tires....
@roccotoulon4031
@roccotoulon4031 4 жыл бұрын
😊👍👍👍👍
@danny200mph5
@danny200mph5 4 жыл бұрын
Corvettes have been amazing track years for decades. Remember the C5 ZO6 405hp and C6 ZO6 505hp were direct competition to the Modena and F430.
@danny200mph5
@danny200mph5 4 жыл бұрын
The Corvette would be considered a super car if it had a high rpm DOHC engine. If u took the 5.2L Voodoo engine from the GT350 and dropped it into the Corvette = instant Supercars.
@johnd5805
@johnd5805 4 жыл бұрын
Those cars have been beating the supercars for 30 years yet the Corvette still gets not enough respect.
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
except that u r taking entry level supercars from euro manufacturer compared to mid or high level supercars from usa. an f40 was faster than a modena or f430 and that was back in 1987.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 4 жыл бұрын
@@j7b890 This is a 610 hp awd car that weighs 3100 ibs vs a 495hp C8 at 3600 ibs. What do you mean?
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 no its the 5 years old 580-2, rwd 579 hp not the current 610 hp awd. This model is out of production since last year. If you look at weight you might as well look at engine size and torque too. The c8 has way more torque due to a much bigger engine. the current slowest lambo available is half a sec faster on a quarter mile (10.9) than the 580-2.
@2boliviano
@2boliviano 4 жыл бұрын
Driver had a lot of excuses for the Lambo. The only thing to know is...$60k vs $250k
@gremmann
@gremmann 4 жыл бұрын
Amen...that's why it's not considered a "supercar" it doesn't cost enough...
@stevenscoggins7294
@stevenscoggins7294 3 жыл бұрын
@@gremmann and it's to comfortable..
@tasimota
@tasimota 3 жыл бұрын
If, by $60k, you mean $110. Bc that's the current t asking price for a C8 at the dealership.
@labigq
@labigq 4 жыл бұрын
Exclusivity is the only thing that the Corvette is missing from other super cars.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
Who gives a sh*t...here in the UK..it will be rarer than a ferrari or lambo..I think it looks far better than those cars.
@exslang02
@exslang02 11 ай бұрын
who gives a F about exclusivity the only real factor whether it is or isnt a supercar is performance, it looks fast and it can back it 0-60mph 2.8 sec top speed 195mph it destroyed a F in supercar lamborghini so obviously its a F in supercar dummy
@zl1guy295
@zl1guy295 4 жыл бұрын
wow the c8 did amazing. great video guys
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@emc2104
@emc2104 2 жыл бұрын
1966 was 75 years ago? 8:52 C8 is the best Bang for the buck by far, and the best car tested that day Corvette wins!
@meadowz06
@meadowz06 3 жыл бұрын
The benchmark was the Ferrari 458! As said by Tadge. Period.and GM succeeded.
@ivanviera4773
@ivanviera4773 4 жыл бұрын
GM recommends using the Track Alignment to reduce the understeer with more negative camber angle if you look the tires closely you could see if its has the street or track alignment . It looks that for this test it did not had it. Still pretty impressive for a base model. Upcoming Grand Sport and Z06 are going to be phenomenal.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
This C8 was on the street alignment and had the stock tires. We already have plans to bring it back out with the GM track alignment and better tires.
@robdc4829
@robdc4829 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada The guy's explanation on understeer didn't make sense to be when you consider past Corvettes where difficult to handle (oversteer), and have similar customers.
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada The base C8 also needs a 50mm tire width stagger/2 inch wheel width stagger, 255 on 9's/305 on 11's or 265 on 9.5's and 315 on 11.5's. But for OEM sizes Nankang AR-(sold by a few retailers in the US, mabye in Canada too) would be my first choice, then McLaren spec Trafeo R tires.
@ludda42
@ludda42 4 жыл бұрын
Rob DC; prior Corvettes had terrible rear suspension (leaf springs) but yes also had less tire width stagger. I do believe GM tried to make the base car more accessible. This is a non-issue. For the 5% or less owners who go to the track just change the alignment. Even without the alignment the understeer topic is blown out of proportion. You can’t drive it like a front engine car. Have to drive it like a mid engine car as the host pointed out.
@ivanviera4773
@ivanviera4773 4 жыл бұрын
@@ludda42 Yes finally putting coil springs was a good move.
@ILIV4SPD1
@ILIV4SPD1 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that episode. Well done!
@jeanpaulvissepo5062
@jeanpaulvissepo5062 4 жыл бұрын
Colin!! I’m a friend of yours from the 4C GROUP on Facebook. Congrats on this content and keep it up. Its excellent! Wish you well!!
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
@RoadOdyssey
@RoadOdyssey 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well thought out and planned. Thanks.
@stracer
@stracer 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the zo6 version
@timothywachowicz8308
@timothywachowicz8308 4 жыл бұрын
Both cars should be on the same rubber for a fair test. From experience the Pilot Supersport 4S is a higher performance tire than the P Zero for sure! Consider You could have three C8s for the price of one Huracan. A fun comparison. Well done!
@hardykornfeld1733
@hardykornfeld1733 4 жыл бұрын
The Corvette has factory specified suspension adjustments for track use that reduce understeer. Did you use those settings or go with the street spec? Also worth noting that one could buy the Corvette for the cost of options on a fully spec’d Lambo.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Factory alignment was used against the Huracan. Check out episode 5 where we use the GM recommended track alignment vs the McLaren 650S
@Ltngdrvr
@Ltngdrvr 4 жыл бұрын
So, no track alignment, which would have made a huge difference, even on the stock tires, did you guys even use launch control for the acceleration tests???
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned and subscribe ... as the C8 will be back with the track alignment and new tires to try and slay an even bigger beast in Episode 5! Launch mode was used during the drag races.
@Ltngdrvr
@Ltngdrvr 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada You should do the next track session with the track alignment and stock tires to demonstrate the improvement from only the alignment. And, you should do acceleration runs on a dragstrip, get timed runs and a fair start between the two cars.
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ltngdrvr already have the filming date booked my friend 😉
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Episode 4 drops next week and Episode 5 will be likely late Oct
@SSDracerSD
@SSDracerSD 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Subscribed.
@davidharrington5836
@davidharrington5836 4 жыл бұрын
I get the best of both worlds in my C8 and don’t break the bank doing so.
@tasimota
@tasimota 3 жыл бұрын
You spent $100k if you own one. Dealerships have not been charging the msrp, due to low volume and high demand. Am I mistaken?
@sandracollins9716
@sandracollins9716 4 жыл бұрын
Great video love the look of that Corvette
@SurvivingLifeLoveNarcissm
@SurvivingLifeLoveNarcissm 4 жыл бұрын
A big thank you from Great White North Corvette.....you gave us an amazing opportunity and day. Love your channel!
@jmm1174
@jmm1174 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't mentioned if in the track it was used the track alignment on the Corvette C8 Z51
@greatwhitenorthcorvette8133
@greatwhitenorthcorvette8133 4 жыл бұрын
No it wasnt
@diggerPD
@diggerPD 3 жыл бұрын
Who chose the colors on the vette , Ray Charles ?
@CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky
@CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky 4 жыл бұрын
I went to TMP last weekend! Such an amazing track! Great driving!
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the support. 👍👍👍 Hopefully I'll catch you at an event there sometime. If you see me come say hi!
@Fore-Four-Dee-Too
@Fore-Four-Dee-Too 4 жыл бұрын
“Chevy has made V8 engines for a long time”
@yaoxiao1602
@yaoxiao1602 4 жыл бұрын
What was the virtual best for the 580-2?
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
1:15.xx
@yaoxiao1602
@yaoxiao1602 4 жыл бұрын
@@colincaissie8724 nice, a little disappointed that the pads faded after just 2 laps, and I'm actually REALLY impressed that a factory car (the c8) has pads that can last a whole session
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was the fluid! The owner hadn't changed it in a long time. 😓 He changed it the next day and was out lapping with us the next week at an event. The brakes were fine all day.
@yaoxiao1602
@yaoxiao1602 4 жыл бұрын
@@colincaissie8724 Fluids actually scare me more than pads, that moment when you step on the brake and it goes to the floor...
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
@@yaoxiao1602 totally agree!
@stevenchidiac3105
@stevenchidiac3105 4 жыл бұрын
the understeer is to carry more speed through corners
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 4 жыл бұрын
Its all about weight management. The track alignment helps
@johngero6265
@johngero6265 3 жыл бұрын
The Corvette is definitely a supercar. The host didn't really come up with a reason he didn't consider it a supercar. Did everyone else think that he was rooting for the Lamborghini? The only reason the Lamborghini got any victories was horsepower in the drag races. We all know that the next version of this car is going to come out with between 600 and 1000 horsepower. The problem moving forward will be managing that kind of power. They also did not go into the tire choices on the stock Corvette or that they have a separate and different alignment setup for track use and I'm sure they didn't set the car up differently for that autocross or the track. So the autocross could have been even more devastating to the Lamborghini had they done that. So yes the Corvette is a super car whether they want to admit it or not I thought his logic was terrible. I said he did not come up with a decent reason he didn't think it was a super car. I think his reason was more emotional than it was factual. The Corvette is sharper and will continue to be sharper than that fat Lambo which was too expensive to purchase and too expensive to live with and maintain. The Corvette is a win all the way around and will continue to be that, a win all the way around
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
you couldn't be more wrong....The C8 is not supercar just let that go. I know because I own a LP580-2 Huracan and a 3LT Z51 C8. The C8 is a great car but its not a supercar no matter how much people try to make it out to be one. Its too slow to be a supercar period, it gets walked by everything that is an actual super car. Huracan is faster, built better, handles better, for obvious reasons as it cost almost 100k more. You call the lambo fat? LOL it weighs less than a C8 especially the LP580-2 which is the RWD model so how is it fat? Its simple the C8 is not a supercar because it doesn't do supercar numbers, gets walked by actual supercars, isn't priced as a super car.....its a sports car and a great one for the price period. You guys are taking away from the C8 by trying to classify it as a super car and it falls short whenever its compared to one. Let it be a great sports car and leave it at that. 70-100k isn't a supercar
@johngero6265
@johngero6265 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsJustDaniel you can say what you want but you two out of the three competitions the Corvette walked all over the Lamborghini. Your car couldn't do the autocross because it's a slob, and it couldn't beat it on the track because it's brakes suck. That being said for all the money you spent on that whale of a car you didn't get your performance. You got a horsepower and a straight line BFD. You can get that out of a Dodge. You lost the other cross and you lost the track competition. The Corvette with far less horsepower kick the Bulls ass. By your definition a supercar is a car you overpay for plain and simple. I wonder if they use the track specs on the Corvette with respect to alignment? So when they come back with a few more horsepower your big fat overpriced Lamborghini is done. It can join the ash heap along with the Porsches.
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngero6265 LOL not reading your lame Comment i own both a Huracan and a C8 3LT Z51 lmao so come talk to me when you own both. Until then not reading your book comment of you speculating on the internet. I’ve had both he Huracan and C8 around willow springs many times both streets of willow and big willow i know what both can do. But nice try trying to sound right on the internet talking about “your car” when i own both lmao
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngero6265 LOL right the huracan walks the C8 in straight line and with the right driver will be on the c8’s tail let’s be real no ones taking a C8 over a Huracan. Big fat ? Lol your a clown literally you do realize how light the huracan is right LOL just stop commenting seriously you sound like a child who’s mad he can’t afford a lambo two completely different cars which is why i own both there’s zero the C8 does better than a Huracan but i didn’t buy it with that expectation
@johngero6265
@johngero6265 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsJustDaniel well that pretty much settles it you will see argument because you go to personal attacks. Something I did not do to you. Because my content showed the superiority of Corvette. Like I said the Lamborghini is not good at low speed handling, nor was it better on the track. Those are the facts.
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 4 жыл бұрын
why not compare C8 Corvette to any new $80k Lambo?
@jmm1174
@jmm1174 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@mariobotti1952
@mariobotti1952 4 жыл бұрын
Because cheap cars are from US
@SAVAGE8
@SAVAGE8 3 жыл бұрын
Right ON spot brother
@swanblake
@swanblake 4 жыл бұрын
I see the Corvette fanboys are alive and well in the comments. Fantastic work on this video. Loved hearing that Huracan's V10 sing. I am very curious how this Huracan compares to the new Evo RWD as far as.dynamics.
@stanhalen9807
@stanhalen9807 4 жыл бұрын
You are just mad your mom won’t buy you one.
@muuriciodegollada3870
@muuriciodegollada3870 4 жыл бұрын
Love the c8
@nfareview
@nfareview 4 жыл бұрын
The Autocross was a wash and the Lambo killed it in the drag race, and the roll race. Also, the stock Pirelli base (not even P Zero Corsas) tires on the 580-2 are absolute trash, they are trash on EVERY car I've owned. I've since installed PS4S on my 580-2 and the grip is wayyyy more improved. The entire feel of the car was improved. For the track I couldn't tell what mode he was in but SPORT, SPORT ESC OFF, CORSA, and CORSA ESC OFF will all make the car behave much more differently and produce much different times. The ESC can be very intrusive but sliding corners wastes time so…who knows. Take those trash tires off the 580-2 and run it again and you'll see much different results. It matters that much. In the end, Lambo for me
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
The Lambo actually had a faster potential time in it than the C8 when we looked at our timing data. The Lambo was running on very old brake fluid and it boiled early on in the laps. Colin wasn't able to get enough laps to pull the time out unfortunately. But he did tell us the Lambo is faster around the track with all things being even. Colin did the hot laps in the Race mode with everything turned off. He refuses to drive cars any other way ;)
@atlfreakdaddy
@atlfreakdaddy 4 жыл бұрын
Plus it's a 2016
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
somebody talking about the tyres finally...i said the same, on several tests the 4s killed the pzeros by a full sec and a half , same car same track same time of the day. tyres are the single most important factor in a lap time comparison.
@brois841
@brois841 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada that's all great info, but those caveats weren't in the video, so most people viewing don't have the insight. But I get it, the Chevy guy was there and you wanted to make the C8 look good.
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
could you specify which p zero was used for the lambo? because the pzero or the pzero nero gt etc are quite inferior tryes (by a not so small margin) to the supersport 4s. In some tyre tests the 4s was a full sec and a half faster on track compared to the pzero. The only variant of the Pzero that can keep up with the 4s is the pz4. But in most reviews even that drops behind the 4s.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
They were the standard Pzero tires that come as OEM on the Huracan. The main issue on the Lambo were the brakes/fluid preventing is from reaching its full potential lap time wise.
@XCougar85X
@XCougar85X 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada Did they overheat / fade that quickly?
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
Corvette wins the autocross..without the correct setting..lambo wins drag..but more horsepower. What was the 0 to 60mph..? Corvette does it in 2.9 seconds. OMG the Corvette beats the lambo on the track hot lap..sorry the lambo fails..the BASE Corvette is superb..its a supercar .
@AP13P
@AP13P 4 жыл бұрын
it's also new, while the 580 is 4 years old and now costs almost the same as a fully loaded C8 Vette.
@briankennedy8702
@briankennedy8702 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and drone footage, but it would be nice to have a driver's view during the hot laps
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian ... we'll look to add the in car footage next episode ... stay tuned!
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada Can I bring my 911 there? I wanna race with you.
@ItsTheNada
@ItsTheNada 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. I’ve been wanting a mid-engines corvette since I saw them at imsa a few years back. I really think it might be my next car if I can get my hands in one. I do think though, that mid engined car that beats a mid engined “super car” around an autox course and a road course is itself a super car. I’m not quite sure what else it would have to do besides be much more expensive.
@jellofuel
@jellofuel 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I wonder if the tire noise from the better gave the impression there's more understeer than there actually is
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ... Its very possible that may be the perception from other reviews. The other is our host Colin is highly experienced with how to handle mid engine cars and as such, can use the brakes and other inputs to make the car rotate better than most.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
The styling on the Corvette is better inside and out.
@h.s.9279
@h.s.9279 4 жыл бұрын
In the beginning I didn't like this new Corvette at all... now I want to order one! Just to go have fun on a circuit and driving home afterwards without bad feelings I am destroying something very expensive :D
@philsalley3278
@philsalley3278 Жыл бұрын
??? Except for the straight line run, didn't it beat the "supercar" everywhere else while providing everyday driving ability and enjoyment, something that is extremely rare in the world of supercars and yes the Z06 is a full on supercar.
@jmm1174
@jmm1174 4 жыл бұрын
We would love to see a Camaro ZL1 VS Shelby GT500 (on same type of tires). And the Camaro SS1LE VS Shelby GT350 (on summer tires) VS Corvette C8 Z51. Also great would be the Porsche Cayman GT4 VS Corvette C8 Z51. And maybe Corvette C8 Z51 VS Corvette C7 Grand Sport (on Summer tires) Also Corvette C8 Z51 VS the new Porsche 911 Carrera S (992) And to see the best from GM: Camaro zl1 VS Corvette C8 Z51.
@censoredialogue
@censoredialogue 4 жыл бұрын
just found this channel thanks to a reddit post. good shit. def turning on that subscriber bell.
@tingokuman
@tingokuman 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Great content. Terrible color choices for that C8.
@mecheng1977
@mecheng1977 4 жыл бұрын
Video quality, script writing and editing is much improved
@jamesb6843
@jamesb6843 4 жыл бұрын
A yellow car with red mirrors and an orange interior? it looks very McDonalds-y
@telliesmith9825
@telliesmith9825 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think GM wants to make it into a super car the main thing about Vette's is there affordable bang for your buck as they say
@redtesta
@redtesta 4 жыл бұрын
no launch control? how is it ive seen others test with different results? smfh .. didnt even set the suspension obviously as GM states for the track.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Launch control was used for both cars and we will bringing the C8 back for a future episode with the track alignment to try and take down an even bigger challenger ... So stay tuned!
@chrisfioretti4099
@chrisfioretti4099 4 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. The Corvette C8 is a supercar. The C7 was a sports car. The C8 is mid engine, has exotic looks, has excellent performance and accelerates 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds. A much better and feature-rich vehicle than my 2012 Gallardo. Is my Gallardo not a supercar?
@brois841
@brois841 4 жыл бұрын
Gallardo was first produced in 2003 and for that time it was "super." The second gen was a huge improvement, but we have different standards today than we did decades ago. The Z06 might be classified a supercar, but the stingray? No way. Unless Chevy puts a proper engine into the C8 it won't be a supercar. The C8 also prioritizes usability over performance. It's not meant to be a purebred (at least in stock form), but there's nothing wrong with that. It can hang with and beat some older supercars... great bragging rights, but doesn't make it a supercar.
@SAVAGE8
@SAVAGE8 3 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right. This guy is full of B.S he doesn’t know what his saying, he doesn’t even know the difference between sport and super 😂😂😂
@brandancooper385
@brandancooper385 11 ай бұрын
Is it me or that drone is doing all the camera shots is fast as hell
@Tasosman7
@Tasosman7 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and thorough analysis!
@danny200mph5
@danny200mph5 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Keep up the good work. My only advice would be to release content more frequently. People like fresh content daily or 3-4 times a week. You could cut up a 30min video into 3x 10min videos segments. Commentary, testing, review.
@dennisbohner6876
@dennisbohner6876 4 жыл бұрын
Not that there is any bias here. THe Lambo is worth about $25 K more for the interior and fitments. $85K max. Understeer is useful on the street which these current models of 'vettes' are MADE for.
@mansees
@mansees 4 жыл бұрын
I would rather buy the Corvette and donate the 200K i save to charity.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
I'd buy the Corvette and another corvette haaa
@SK-pn1pe
@SK-pn1pe 5 ай бұрын
Being attainable is what excludes the C8 from supercar status. Even the host driver had a clear bias in his perception of what was faster when he ran the first test....all based on the fact that one car is almost 4 times as expensive. But in reality, fast is fast and GM just did everybody a massive favor with the C8.
@C5Ron7
@C5Ron7 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍Damn, watching these kick ass video's makes me wish I already had mine, I'm still in for this year but don't feel like my order is moving, at least not as fast as I'd like. 🙄🗯
@TheFrogga69
@TheFrogga69 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine in Feb2020 and I won’t see it till Sept2021. At least I’ll get the 2021 model 😂
@C5Ron7
@C5Ron7 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFrogga69 I ordered mine the 1st week of September and STILL waiting. Checked this morning but hasn't been Updated today (yet). I believe my 2020 Corvette has FINALLY hit the Assembly Line, maybe one, or two more weeks, I HOPE🤨🤞
@unhappygilmore7129
@unhappygilmore7129 3 жыл бұрын
That VW is kind of expensive isn't it?
@rueben44
@rueben44 4 жыл бұрын
Just why....a base Vette against a Lamborghini. You guys just couldn't wait.
@djbrianc
@djbrianc 3 жыл бұрын
The quintessential question that you didn’t answer is , why don’t you think it’s a Supercar? What criteria makes a Supercar? Exotic styling, exotic materials, hand made, race technology, exclusivity, Price? P. S. Save for price,I just described my 4C. Spyder.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 3 жыл бұрын
The missing factor for Colin was the driving experience. The C8 has the performance clearly but feels dull and muted when compared to the driving experience of the Lamborghini. The 4C is a perfect example of this but the opposite way. It has that raw and visceral driving experience but doesn't have the supercar performance numbers. Very few cars can match a 4C when it comes to the raw driving experience.
@mrfuriouser
@mrfuriouser Жыл бұрын
​@@TrackAttackCanada"Driving experience " is purely subjective - and hence, immeasurable. If it comes down to opinion, there is little use discussing the topic.
@newbiedebater
@newbiedebater 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... so WHY is the corvette not a supercar when it beat the "supercar"?
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
Performance and experience are two different things. The C8 doesn't deliver the same experience as a super car. It's not as much fun and exciting to drive.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
@@colincaissie8724 says you..not people who own them.
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
Says a guy who has driven more cars than the average Corvette owner 😉 By comparison a Corvette doesn't deliver the same experience as the big dollar cars. But with that being said defining a super car is subjective. So it's just my opinion at the end of the day.
@SAVAGE8
@SAVAGE8 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz it’s not made in Italy. 😂😂😂😂
@tobyreal6647
@tobyreal6647 4 жыл бұрын
This guy keeps asking .. is the C8 a super car? .. then drives and compares and wins with the C8 2-1 agains a super car and then answering his question multiply himself with .. its not a super car !? …. just say the car has to cost be 250k to be a super car …
@seanconnelly739
@seanconnelly739 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Z06 C8 will be unbeatable to anything other than McLaren.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 3 жыл бұрын
We agree. It will be one hard car to beat. We are very excited to test it out when they get released.
@BulletSpoung
@BulletSpoung 5 ай бұрын
Now in 2024 we have the Vora on the way, plus we have the Z06 that is no pushover.
@nicholasbotha9128
@nicholasbotha9128 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the comments about it not being a supercar, you're obviously focused on the price and demographic of the Lamborghini or Ferrari type of owner. In reality Chevrolet have shown you anything is possible in a decent price range and performance from a legitimate company. This is a supercar.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 3 жыл бұрын
The driving experience as well. It doesn't deliver that same feel as a high priced exotic. There has to be compromises somewhere when there is a that much of a price gap. Still full credit to Chevy for making a car with this level of performance for this price range. They have been king of that arena for quite some time now.
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
its not a supercar....i don't understand why you guys don't get that. Its a sports car, just because it has an exotic car look doesn't mean its a supercar, again its not priced as a supercar, doesn't perform like a supercar and you guys are taking away from the C8 by constantly trying to classify it as a supercar. All the tests are putting it agains't supercars and its getting beat every single time. I own both a huracan and c8 one is a supercar one is a sports car period theres no other way to call it.
@SAVAGE8
@SAVAGE8 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the z06 or Zora to come out, and then will see how’s Lamborghini gone keep up🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
the chances of a Zora beating a Huracan Performante or Huracan EVO are slim if the Zora is Naturally aspirated. At best I can see it running similar times but if you think its going 9's its not.
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 2 жыл бұрын
@PREDAKING 7 LOL no, I own Huracan a 1300hp Twin Turbo Huracan to be exact a C7 ZR1 cant beat a Huracan, It def wont beat an SVJ thats a joke where do you get your info from. A stock C7 ZR1 cant beat a stock Huracan let alone an SVJ. Because you saw one video you really believe that LOL? I own a C8 by the way and when my huracan was stock it walked my C8 by over 4 cars from a Roll.
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 2 жыл бұрын
@PREDAKING 7 you sure it can beat a SVJ when it cant even beat a Huracan LOLOL kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWiTXpuvhN9jjbM
@itsJustDaniel
@itsJustDaniel 2 жыл бұрын
@PREDAKING 7 and just to let you know, no Lambo owner cares about a corvette I can assure you on that. The only shame is trying to compensate on why you got a corvette and not a lambo and this is coming from someone who has both LOL, completely different cars
@greatwhitenorthcorvette8133
@greatwhitenorthcorvette8133 4 жыл бұрын
To check out more on the Yellow Corvette go to Great White North Corvette on KZbin
@gorrdd
@gorrdd 4 жыл бұрын
I think the only argument against the C8 not being a supercar is that it just doesn't have that high strung supercar feel behind the wheel. But in reality, it performs just as well if not better than a supercar. So, does that aspect alone not make it a supercar? I would have to say that it is in fact a supercar, but with more of a sports car feel being the wheel... less high strung than your typical supercar. But that's the way is was designed. It was targeted for that market and priced for that market. Make it more high strung and you have to jack up the price because you won't have as many buyers. The average person wants the comfort with the performance... not the high strung feeling. So in that sense, it doesn't share the same space as your typical supercar. But then, if you were to compare the C8 with a Ferrari 488, that is where the C8 would show up as a sports car. The 488 has both the comfort as well as the high strung feeling. They only thing the Ferrari doesn't have is the Lambo V10 wail. Each of these cars is completely different, but all qualify for supercar status. How much do you want to pay and for what?
@evilgeniusboy1878
@evilgeniusboy1878 2 жыл бұрын
Track Attack....I have a 2020 c8 (z51 95k), I also have a 2020 M8 Competition Gran Coupe (156K), Also had 2021 ZL1(60k)....all are fun to drive....so my question to you and I am sure I speak for all of us.....What in your truth/mind makes a super car a super car? I mean you just saw the Vette SPANK the Lambo...not ONCE...but multiple time. So, I am setting here confused. The Z06 is only 1 or 2 tenths of a second faster than the c8....Is is COST? LOOKS? FEELING? I am listening. My M8 has beat my vette every time we have put them up.@2:25 you said that vette is a Super Car...BTW.
@dwightlooi
@dwightlooi 3 жыл бұрын
5.2L Italian Frenzy? The Lamborgini is a Volkswagen with a German engine -- the same one in the Audi R8.
@noahhederman341
@noahhederman341 3 жыл бұрын
That corvettes colored like a bowling shoe
@anthonysebak8273
@anthonysebak8273 5 ай бұрын
Less than half the price and the corvette spanked the lambo!!! LOL hats off to Chevy engineers, job well done.
@austinsgreenthumb.726
@austinsgreenthumb.726 4 жыл бұрын
My definition of "supercar" differs from yours. You just compared a $75,000 "sports car" that beat a $270,000 "super car" and your conclusion is the Corvette is the one that's not "Super"!
@brois841
@brois841 4 жыл бұрын
My friend built a Civic that beat a Chiron at the track. Does that make his Civic a supercar? A hypercar?
@stevenpassi4585
@stevenpassi4585 4 жыл бұрын
thanks sir for the video iam from france in six months iam goig to immigrate in canada montreal i love corvette once arrived in canada i will order my c8 corvette mine will be yellow convertible black seats with yellow seat belts yellow calipers high wing z51 package 1 lt thanks again
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and look forward to having another car enthusiast join the the Canadian community!
@davidperri8862
@davidperri8862 4 жыл бұрын
Look at that 4C eat up the pylon track!
@nosty6525
@nosty6525 2 жыл бұрын
This is the vase Corvette that just beat the Lamborghini Huracan....on a track. Let's see the Z06.
@davidwhite2411
@davidwhite2411 4 жыл бұрын
Just think how much better the time would have been on that Corvette if it didn't have all season tires on it
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
It has Pilot 4s' specially designed for the C8, so definitely a high performance tire. With that said we are bringing back the C8 in a future episode with the track alignment and a fresh set of high performance tires ... So subscribe and stay tuned!
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
its actually the exact opposite. Pzero are actually far less performing tyres than 4s. In proper tyre reviews the 4s is the tyre to beat in its category while the pzeros only fare decently with the pz4s. Read any Porsche/BMW/Lambo car blog and see how many people moved from pzeros to 4s. In some tyre review they did a time attack on a racetrack and the 4s was a sec and a half faster then the pzero.
@victorstandiford9724
@victorstandiford9724 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't say what it was missing in order to be considered a supercar. My first question is: Can it beat a Huracan? Question answered.
@sponk2112
@sponk2112 5 ай бұрын
I kind of agree that the Vette isn't a "supercar," but I really don't know how much that matters. It's just a label, and one that vague at best, and an actual negative in a lot of ways. It doesn't have the prestige or rareness of a Lambo (yet) but it also costs a fraction of the price and is far more reliable and stable. So, hopefully it never does become a "supercar," or God forbid, a "hypercar."
@benzagorski4136
@benzagorski4136 4 жыл бұрын
You never justified why you would not give the Corvette C8 a supercar status though it hung with a car you clearly thought was a supercar . This made the whole video a head scratcher. Name does not make a supercar performance does. Though supercar status will never be something everyone agrees upon. Once you set your own standards do not argue with the results. It looks silly.
@colincaissie8724
@colincaissie8724 4 жыл бұрын
The driving experience is not super exciting compared to other supercars. The Corvette is fun but not the same. Performance is a different category. A car can be fun and slow just like it can be fast and boring. I think it needs to have both to be a supercar. My 2 cents 👍
@moneyshift8190
@moneyshift8190 4 жыл бұрын
Half way thru the video I stopped to subscribe. Great job on the comparo!
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying the episode and thanks for the sub!
@c8miamicarclub
@c8miamicarclub 4 жыл бұрын
What will make the c8 a supercar? pay 250k for the c8 and now you have a supercar.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
We're betting the Z06 will meet that criteria :)
@c8miamicarclub
@c8miamicarclub 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada lol i betting the z06 will surpass the exotics and still cost less than 100k
@c8miamicarclub
@c8miamicarclub 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada after he did the cat bypass with those fabspeed exhaust and mini cats has he gotten a check engine light?
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
@@c8miamicarclub Yes ... you can't avoid it unless you tune it out
@DB-bp7hh
@DB-bp7hh 3 жыл бұрын
You showed your bias throughout the video by keep referring to the C8 as a “sports car”. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it’s a duck. The C8 is a supercar. Where is your deductive reasoning?
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 3 жыл бұрын
No deductive reasoning. It's opinion. It doesn't make us feel like it's a supercar. Most modern performance cars have excellent performance numbers, including the C8. But a lot of them don't offer a pure driving experience. They are disconnected from the driver. The loss of that driving experience is one element we focus on in our reviews. The C8 is lacking that experience for us. When compared to a modern McLaren or Ferrari the C8 is lacking that experience. That was the one big deal breaker for us to consider it a supercar.
@MansaX
@MansaX 4 жыл бұрын
-W,x,y, and Zed. -At the zoo they say "check out the Zedbra" -I'm sleepy I guess I'll get some Zed's.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
The lambo styling isnt as good as the Corvette.the interior is audi..and not a patch on the Corvette for style, modern design..its nice but looks dated compared to the Corvette. The Corvette has a better quality ride and you say the lambo doesnt have that because it's a supercar..haaaa come on for decades journalists have been telling us how you can tell a supercar from a sports car because it's more luxurious and the ride is more comfortable etc....a base Corvette does 0 to 60mph in 2.9 seconds. That blows away cars that cost 2 and 3 times its price. Credit where it's due.. roll on Z06 and ZR1.
@j7b890
@j7b890 4 жыл бұрын
the c8 looks anything but modern design wise. From the outside it looks like a kit car from the 90's Even a gallardo looks more modern than a c8.
@t-lawsfitness6044
@t-lawsfitness6044 4 жыл бұрын
The c8 needs to rev higher and it does not sound that good I've heard them in real life and the standard C7 stingray sounds a lot better
@robdc4829
@robdc4829 4 жыл бұрын
This is the base car - the Z06 is rumoured to have a much higher revving engine. Then there will be the ZR1.
@rod3134
@rod3134 4 жыл бұрын
My C8 sounds great in Sports mode. It has a sound like a low growl that you can feel in your bones. My C7 was nice but seemed rougher. Trust me, it's very different in person...
@robdc4829
@robdc4829 4 жыл бұрын
@@rod3134 Oh, interesting you had a C7 and now a C8. How are these cars different, and which do you prefer and why? (I've not heard a comparison between the two...this should be cool!)
@rod3134
@rod3134 4 жыл бұрын
@@robdc4829 Both cars have their pros and cons But the C8 is definitely a hands down winner between the two. I didn't like how my C7 couldn't hook. All that power and it spun tires. Even when I went wider to 12s it still kept spinning. My C8 is Krazy fast and planted. Chevy hit this one out of the ballpark.
@rod3134
@rod3134 4 жыл бұрын
And I can see the front of the road MUCH better!!!
@Rob02138
@Rob02138 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely biased reporting, you are a Lamborghini apologist. Beats supercar but you won’t call it a supercar. Why? You can’t even articulate your reasoning for why it isn’t a supercar in your opinion. So what about the Z06 that will sway you, the base is already faster. I won’t bother with any more of your “comparison” tests.
@sdlausen1
@sdlausen1 4 жыл бұрын
Worst color combo ever
@tomfaltash9634
@tomfaltash9634 6 ай бұрын
Corvette is and has been since the c7 generation with the zo6 and the zr1 in the super car range as far as performance. That being said, the whole range of c8 is in that range. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bugatti are now in hyper car range. Give credit where credit is due. Corvette is no longer a sports car. It is a super car. Also remember a c6 zr1 set the track record at Nuremberg. To add the corvette is built for the track, not on a straight. Now today a c8 zo6 will surely outperform any Lamborghini in a true track race for a third of the cost. STOP MAKING EXCUSES. The CORVETTE got the big win. Corvette is a SUPER CAR
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 4 жыл бұрын
too many C8 Corvette vs Ferrari/Lamb/spaceship tests. A lambo buy can afford C8, BUT a C8 buyer may not afford a Lambo....price is a huge factor......
@millionairemindset1136
@millionairemindset1136 2 жыл бұрын
Lol no the C8 is not a super car. It’s American’s Sports car. My gosh are 60mph the C8 dies because it only has 495hp. Now the new Zo6 is coming out but, it’s at exotic car pricing.
@joselara3118
@joselara3118 3 жыл бұрын
Not a super car but it beat one?
@135iN55
@135iN55 4 жыл бұрын
Both are 4.2 sec 0-60 cars on Dragy. Not remotely competitive at $100K.
@joselara3118
@joselara3118 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong the c8 does is 0-60 around 2.9 seconds not sure on the lambo
@bawrizrawbiz5667
@bawrizrawbiz5667 3 жыл бұрын
He made that mistake on track and vette still beat time
@IndependenceCityMotoring
@IndependenceCityMotoring 4 жыл бұрын
Love the C8 but the Ronald McDonald color scheme the owner chose for that C8 is terrible...
@sonicloud7774
@sonicloud7774 4 жыл бұрын
Well, people do have different tastes in color schemes. Like how some people have different tastes and like to dip fries in icecream.
@sheneedsme
@sheneedsme 4 жыл бұрын
I love the color scheme. It really stands out from the crowd.
@sonicloud7774
@sonicloud7774 4 жыл бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 No but I dip them in honey mustard or barbecue sauce.
@jyotishmanchakraborty887
@jyotishmanchakraborty887 4 жыл бұрын
As great as the C8 Z51 is, I'd still think an M2 Comp, Cayman GT4, or obviously a 911 GT3 are better sports cars. But ig all things considered, MSRP, net value, performance, mid engined engineering and all, it would take it. Kinda like a jack of all trades, master of none.
@TrackAttackCanada
@TrackAttackCanada 4 жыл бұрын
We are testing the GT4 on the next episode. Be sure to check that one out to see our take on it.
@jyotishmanchakraborty887
@jyotishmanchakraborty887 4 жыл бұрын
@@TrackAttackCanada Damn, will look out for that. Also, great job on your reviews.
@studio-flash
@studio-flash 4 жыл бұрын
Corvettes standard form have been faster than porsches , better cornering, so yes master, no overpriced repair Bill's, servicing cost etc..so again master.
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