2020 Election Update | Pod Save America

Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, Tommy Vietor, and Dan Pfeiffer discuss the clusterf*ck of an Election Night that has ended with votes still being counted in several states (including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina), and Joe Biden on the cusp of defeating Donald Trump.
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[@brianwalkup5214]

❤️Polling is wrong, but activism works❤️. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, Dan. That is exactly what I needed to hear tonight!

[@ryanjohnson6272]

I'm not worried about POTUS election anymore. I'm worried about the Senate. Were prob going to have a Biden presidency and GOP Senate, which means NOTHING will get done

[@194decibels]

What a relief though

[@pakde8002]

That aasumes all Republicans will vote in a block... without Trump standing over them I believe a certain number of Republicans could be swayed on important legislation...if you can get it past McConnell.

[@myriamkay]

I'm still worried. Very worried. But either way.. Let's not forget that soooo many people still voted for Trump.

[@muma8207]

Yes. Sad. But not as many bad things will happen with DT gone.

[@markevans8206]

Yeah, it sucks. But putting on the brakes is better than going over the cliff even if we haven't turned the car around. Hopefully we can get the Senate in 2022 but that's unlikely.

[@podsaveamerica]

what a vibe today

[@JennyTolios]

Today's Vibe...brought to you by Johnnie Walker, Jose Cuervo & Captain Morgan! Come join the party & forget the last 4 years! 🍷🍸🍹🥃🥂🍷🥃🥂🍺🍹🍸

[@amya8316]

I’m operating on cold brew and 1 hour of sleep. 😬

[@clbazar]

Hey Crooked, did the exit polls that we managed to get align with the results so far? How would we know if Russia or Iran were to corrupt the voting systems of a few critical counties? And yes, I do realize I sound like a tin hat whackadoo, but if Russia has the means to tamper with the vote, why wouldn’t they? And again, I’m just talking about some key counties. Thanks for passing my question up for the next Pod.

[@flangekiwi]

From the outside looking in: the fact it's even close is bloody disgusting tbh.

[@pakde8002]

Thinking we need to rethink our support for immigration. Instead of fighting against the wall we need to drive through an amenesty program for immigrants. I believe that's why a lot of immigrants are voting for Republicans because Reagan gave them amnesty and they have party loyalty and a lot of them are Catholic and let's be honest, the machismo culture found in a lot of immigrant populations is not woman's rights friendly. Abortion is a big deal to these folks. We've got to understand that in defending a woman's right to choose we crippled our ability to talk to certain groups that happen to be expanding in the USA. Since that dynamic is unlikely to change perhaps it would be better to give college scholarships to poor kids rather than spending billions on campaign ads since our base seems to be college educated Americans who have the intellectual ability to filter out propaganda and misinformation from political arguments.

[@bobroberts5846]

Def more concerned abt the Senate...super disappointing

[@mahvashnejad]

The alligator of Kentucky is going to play all the games he has if the WH goes democrat, we remember that very well.

[@edgy_username]

Don't think so fast on that. It'll be damn close to 50/50 and mitchy has already rolled back his anti stimulus points.

[@arentsturla2999]

@Waldo Wall why 14 years m

[@carlkelemen6452]

@@mahvashnejad he may even not be able to get his cabinet confirmed.

[@srundmc1]

@@carlkelemen6452 Well then Biden can just pull a Trump and have "acting" Secretaries at every position. Apparently there is no end time for an "Acting" Secretary and even if a judge deems it "illegal" they can ignore it

[@gin_mill23]

60 year old white female here, first time I replied to a poll ever! But, I replied to every online poll that showed up. Could that be a reason? Also, why did so many voters chose Trump? My friends and and family said "the Economy". My personal belief? The economy was an excuse. Deep down it was fear that this country is less "white" then ever before and the fact that they might not be the majority any more.

[@eliseharrison7850]

I agree with you, but can’t for the life of me figure out why that’s such a problem for them. When my daughter was about 4 years old (in the 70’s) we were getting food at a drive through window. The gal at the window was black and all my daughter saw was her hand. She asked me why her hands were so dirty.I told here they weren’t dirty, she had dark skin because her mothers,mothers,mothers,mother came from a place where the sun was always out and the dark skin helped protect them from sunburn. Ours came from places where the sun rarely shined so we didn’t need the same protection. I was young, she was young but I still believe that’s the basic difference and that all of us wish for the same things. Except for the crazies who insist everyone look/think/act exactly like them, or the power hungry who use such a random thing as color to divide us, I truly don’t understand what the heck these people are afraid of. Why would they think that the color of your skin determines what you want out of life?

[@macmahonevelyn]

waiting for this all day, thank you so much for your hard work - i hope everyone at crooked knows how much this discussion means to all of us ❤️

[@iceborn698]

I really hope that if Biden win, I never will hear that individual 1 ever again. That all US press will mute him forever.

[@mrcurly1147]

Unless it's accompanied by the word, GUILTY!

If not arrested he would definitely love to have a show on Fox. And try to run again in four years

[@sfisabbt]

@Christopher Fair I still believe whatever crazy stuff he says will remain a very efficient way of selling paper.

[@timgorman2437]

A huge thank you and congratulations to the entire Crooked Media team. I have no doubt that your presence these past four years and your organizing had a huge impact on the result.

[@ayeeshahm9078]

The results and our collective sanity and ability to process the crapfest that is this administration

[@dryad_girl]

I’ve been waiting for this. Thank you ❤️

[@terrylmiller7393]

I LOVE when the 4 of you are together! (And, I really need it right now.)

[@EleanorofAquitaine42]

I need more wine.

[@maybeapacifist]

I need more liquor

[@Notfunnysam]

I should have grabbed a big bottle of wine before the liquor store closed where I am.

[@Notfunnysam]

@Jelly Bean Dedicate a swig to me please.

[@EleanorofAquitaine42]

@Damone Damone I can always use more BBC, British Broadcasting is the shit.

[@riittakeskikuru5835]

This is great, I was shocked in the morning, but now so so glad. Never have to hear Trumps voice again

[@Chezcat]

I would like to apologise to all my American cousins for treating your country as an apex reality tv show. The live coverage of O. J. trial got me hooked back in the day. (You always go bigger and better than anyone else). I’m ready for the new ‘season’ to cause less existential trauma for the rest of the world 🤞🏾

[@trackstar7729]

Mean but so true lol

[@pakde8002]

Mr Roger's Neighborhood sounds great at this moment.

[@naylas3908]

This! I’m Belgian, and when it looked like Trump would become the Republican candidate in 2016, I started following US politics really closely, because it felt like a reality tv show and also I wanted to know what the fuck was going on and what the influence in Europe would be. My husband thought it was funny, because he’s a political scientist with a master in International Politics.

[@oceanrock733]

We seriously all have PTSD from the daily chaos for FOUR years!

[@kelseywaterman9779]

ARREST DEJOY

[@dragonmuffin2670]

I totally agree grassroots baby! I did texting and phone banking here in Arizona and everyone worked so hard it was great, and it looks like it paid off. Thank you to everyone else out there that tried to take control of this "Chump Train" !

[@podsaveamerica]

Thanks for putting in the work! It helped make the difference we needed!

[@duhiiswishy2119]

I bet you filled in Biden on empty ballots

[@darlingdear2687]

The left NEEDS to have radio - AM and FM especially in rural areas. To explain to people that nobody is proposing socialism and what the actual sociAL policies the left is offering. The left NEEDS a massive education media operation - radio, social media, TV, local TV

[@clbazar]

Yes, and.... America needs to completely rethink and rebuild public education. Kids should have actual practice volunteering, learning how to read the media for bias, understanding personal finance, building empathy and communication skills, and for the love of this country, civics, civics, civics. Reduce the amount of lectures, invest in labs, or project-based learning. We no longer have any need to produce an educated workforce capable of memorizing content, performing simple math and sitting at a desk for 6-8 hours. The future of our country and the planet depends on a citizenry that practices empathy, and can think for themselves.

[@umasobservations]

Listen to Beau of the Fifth Column on KZbin for ideas on from the ground up neighborhood networks. Rule 303. If you have the means, you have the responsibility.

[@pakde8002]

Definitely. And not Polly Annish radio but scathing criticism in simple language repeated over and over again that the right wing is not their friend, that healthcare is not communism and Democrats bring prosperity. All the left wing radio sounds like a lot of boomer potheads who don't have a clue what the average person is thinking about. I'm a boomer pothead and even I can't stand listening to those guys.

[@MyselftheElf]

Hey so my father-in-law experience voter suppression in Amity, Pa. (Don't know which precinct for sure). He didn't tell me till today, but someone told him that he has to vote at least one Republican, & that he can't vote all Democrat down ballot. He told him that that wasn't true- but I don't know how many people that woman tried that trick with, though. If I would've known, I'd called & reported it. Thank you for your work, guys!

[@shaunrutherford7764]

Proud to be one of the 28% of Biden voters in my swing state precinct 👍

[@hazellove2144]

Thank you. Never stop participating. The hard stuff is still to come. Much love.

[@Scoddygoat]

I'm so disappointed in half of the USA right now.

[@OntheOtherHandVideos]

Haha, literally everyone in the US is thinking this right now

[@Summerstorm2022]

I'm perhaps even more deeply disappointed in those people who didn't even care to vote - despite four years of fuckery by Trump and his vile entourage.

[@OntheOtherHandVideos]

@@Summerstorm2022 Well, when the only real options are a loud mouth bully and a career politician promising that 'this time I will fix things', I can't really blame people for not voting.

[@nomadpurple6154]

I'm thinking that I may need to ask everyone American I meet who they voted for in 2020 as a quick route to judge their character

[@OntheOtherHandVideos]

@@nomadpurple6154 Yes, because only people with good character voted for the side I like, and only people with bad character voted for the side I don't like. Sounds like a unifying and nuanced take.

[@ethanzhang7229]

But seriously, the map is not blue enough :(

[@theomegajuice8660]

The sad thing is the lack of Senate wins. Interesting to see if McConnel would hold SCOTUS seats for a full 4 years if GOP holds the senate.

[@greyerbaby3323]

@@theomegajuice8660 is it relatively positive that republicans have the senate in the way that they are less likely to want to say the election that they won is a fraud?

[@theomegajuice8660]

@@greyerbaby3323 Probably not, since most of the fraud claims are from Trump rather than other Republicans and he doesn't care. He'll say every vote against him is fraud and every vote for him is genuine

[@brianwalkup5214]

If it helps any it seems like it could get a little blueer yet!

[@brianwalkup5214]

Still, Barr will be gone with the rest of the Trump gnomes!❤️❤️❤️

[@nomadpurple6154]

3 months of painful waiting

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@nomadpurple6154 Oh, yes! It is going to be painful, but we all have each other. So, there is that!

[@irenepowell4343]

Thank God you guys are back. You’ve been away so long. I wasn’t going to make it.

[@kelseywaterman9779]

So essentially this thing (probably) ends in a draw. - D's get the presidency & House - R's get Senate & courts I'm not thrilled but I can live with this. We slowed the bleeding. Live to fight another day.

[@skywalker541]

Really? The MAGAt party won't even let Joe fill his cabinet lmao. This country is still catastrophically dysfunctional.

[@miltonfang]

There is no draw. There's only the black abyss.

[@pakde8002]

I'm looking at 49 to 49 in the Senate with Harris as VP.

[@kelseywaterman9779]

@@skywalker541 please don't pretend that a Dem president and half a Dem Congress is the exact same thing as a Republican trifecta.

[@kelseywaterman9779]

@@pakde8002 50/50. There are 100 hundred Senators. I'd like to get to 50/50 but I don't have it in me to be hopeful right now.

[@Wray62]

This election and this podcast has really motivated me to wake up and become a part of the process. Activism does work!

[@podsaveamerica]

Love hearing that! It's the only to make change happen :)

[@nataliealdarondo293]

I am usually a fan of the Pod Save America podcast and have been regularly listening to Tommy, Jon, Jon, and Dan for years now. That is why I felt the need to contact you instead of simply walking away from the pod. I am a non-binary “Latinx” person from Puerto Rico (currently living in the continental US). On the episode released today (11/04/20), the question “How did we get here?” was asked regarding the closeness/narrow margin of the presidential race. To my chock, instead of addressing the fact that once AGAIN, over half of voting white Americans voted for Trump in this election, you say that the answer to this question is Cubans in Miami and latinx in Texas? Why not address the elephant in the room and talk about how OVER HALF of voting white Americans (millions upon millions of people) are consistently choosing to vote for Trump and other right-wing politicians at the expense of everyone else? This same trend was also identified in the 2016 election as well. So when you ask, “How did we get here?” the ethical, responsible answer for you to discuss should be white supremacy, not Cubans in Miami (who incidentally are majority WHITE anyway). You must be more responsible about your rhetoric and the conclusions you make and share with the world. Thousands of listeners rely on your discourse to inform their sociopolitical perspective, and it’s about damn time that you start talking plainly and DIRECTLY about the role of white supremacy in elections/politics and the damage that white voters are inflicting on oppressed people. As a queer BIPOC who spent years waiting for something more from your podcast, I am beyond disappointed that you have not done more to address the powerful systemic racism that DIRECTLY affects the state of our politics. I guess this is what you get when the voice of the podcast is only cis white men. This was the last straw for me. I can no longer subscribe to your podcast in good conscience. For the sake of oppressed people everywhere, DO BETTER.

[@nanarris]

Crossing my fingers here in Georgia! Thank you PSA for helping me keep some of my sanity 😅

[@tali88]

This would be a dream!!!

[@lindseyhtf]

Jon's mini rant starting at 19:09 is dead on. I live in the middle of Trump country in upstate NY and I want to scream from the roof tops how many Trump flags and signs I see outside of old broken houses and run down trailers. They're everywhere. These types of people don't always have access to internet or trust media/strangers/ anyone they perceive as city or corporate type... There is so much more damage out here and I truly worry how Dems can ever get through the Republican messaging.. but we need accurate information to do so. We need to reevaluate some of our messaging too.

[@derekjones3596]

Free college education is how you overcome republican propaganda.

[@jonesl3467]

I am also in Upstate! Right on the salmon river. Plenty of Trump flags. Plenty of need. Plenty to do.

[@etherspin]

Some of these folks do internet and that can actually be the issue too. Over here in Australia my in laws and one set of parents for each of my close friends are massive Trump fans and I think it's partly from them growing up without the internet and intrinsically trusting most sources of information as long as they had gravitas. Anything on a website is "an article" and email chains are " a friend of mine found out"

[@miragewizard]

Definitely agree. I live in Indiana, and this backwards ass political State only voted Democrat once in my living memory (Obama).. The Republican turnout was grossly underestimated and the strategy needs to be addressed and reconfigured before 2022.

[@lindseyhtf]

@@jonesl3467 well I'm glad I'm not alone out here!! 🤍

[@brianwalkup5214]

I think we are going to win! After the setbacks, the lack of landslide, and the sobering Senate race we need to stop for a moment. We did an incredible thing! We saved our democracy from collapse. Starting with the end of the counts we still have a lot serious problems. But we bought ourselves the time we need to fix them.

[@RmcBlueSky]

You are too optimistic. I am not, Moscow Mitch will still hold the majority of seats in the Senate. And the house lost 5 seats to the Republicans 😔

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@RmcBlueSky Sure, but we can out out maneuver Mitch through our direct activism. Have the courage to celebrate this victory!

[@brianwalkup5214]

@Richard Rydlund I want as few people to get Covid as possible, and as few people to die from it as possible.My faith is in science, not big brother.

[@telectronix1368]

@Richard Rydlund "unnecessary" The only parts of the planet where they successfully contained and/or eliminated their virus outbreaks are places where they, for a limited time, had nationwide lockdowns. Necessary.

[@clairem730]

@Richard Rydlund An easily transmissible, novel virus (i.e. no one in the population has immunity) doesn’t have to have a high case fatality rate to cause a devastating number of deaths and a health-system-crushing number of hospitalizations. And there are lots of people living with chronic health conditions that can be lived with for many years with good care - so just because a person may have high blood pressure and diabetes (for example) doesn’t mean they were at imminent risk of death - if covid kills them 10 or more years earlier than they would otherwise have died that is a huge loss to them and the people who love them. And even for those very elderly or very unwell people who may not have had much time left - dying because you suddenly can’t breath normally is not a nice way to go. Don’t underestimate Covid.

[@brianwalkup5214]

Joe Biden built and incredible coalition. It was bigger than Obama’s! And more people voted in this election than people have in over a hundred years. Joe gave us the space to stay determined, and keep doing the urgent work.

[@trackstar7729]

As much as I want Biden to win...everything you said OR we all want frump gone so badly that we came out of the woodworks!

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@trackstar7729 Yes, but even so, it is Biden’s coalition. We all voted for him. Everyone from Senator McCain’s wife to Bernie Sanders. It is incredible!

[@charlieskywalker7062]

@@brianwalkup5214 Biden ceded an incredible amount of ground to trump among all minority groups. As much as I'd love for there to be a big tent, running as a third way democrat is a losing strategy and its the reason Biden is winning by only a hair in the most winnable election in the history of democracy.

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@charlieskywalker7062 But coalition building is about how to replace voters you lose. It was never going to be the easiest election to win because Trump’s base is fanatical and large. It was one of the hardest races ever fought, and we just won. I don’t make any claim that the coalition will change the politics of this country in the future. I am just pointing out how significant it is to remove Trump!

[@charlieskywalker7062]

@@brianwalkup5214 yeah, and I’m glad it looks like biden will win. But trying to build a coalition of republicans and socialists while ignoring the working class won’t be a winning strategy into the future.

[@andrewkoenig6199]

who are we as people that after 4 years of this insanity this election is close. how far have we fallen?

[@SStroud2024]

For the future, TOP PRIORITY RIGHT AWAY .... Democrats must work on getting D.C. and Puerto Rico with Senatorial status to add in 4 Democratic votes for 2022 and 2024! Then Mitch is in the minority!

[@kristofermiller6742]

This is the first time I have actually looked at you guys while talking... only listen to the pod. And I will be honest... I apparently without visualizing any of you, managed to completely shock myself when seeing you. Keep up the good work :P

[@justinkidding9690]

Oof the ending of this podcast just hit me HARD and I just bursted into tears hearing from you guys that the MATH is on our side. THANK YOU. It's like I got permission to unclench.

[@lukaxxlunchpailguyxxdoncic9293]

TRUMP IS SO DESPERATE! HIS WHOLE LIVELIHOOD AND FREEDOM DEPENDS ON THIS ELECTION.

[@IndigoBellyDance]

😆😆😆

[@9000ck]

It's so relieving not to have to pay attention to him. He's fizzling out before our very eyes. Like the wicked witch of the west.

[@TeranIcer]

Livelihood?

[@konradyearwood5845]

@@TeranIcer Being a successful parasite can be viewed as a livelihood. It does sum Trump up.

[@TeranIcer]

@@konradyearwood5845 LoL, Pres or not, he's still a billionaire. His net worth has dropped since being Pres, so if anything being out of office will probably help his wallet.

[@saramielock8386]

I feel that I need to be added onto your all's group chats. You guys brought comfort to my panic ridden day. Thank you!

[@PaulaB44]

We Need Bloomberg to Buy FOX "News"!!!!!

[@naylas3908]

That would be a good purpose for his money, indeed.

[@scottthomas7524]

I was thinking the exact same thing today.

[@masterpuni7371]

Why? Disney bought them.

[@telectronix1368]

The US needs to prise the Sinclair-Fox monopoly's claws out of the media.

[@espenstoro]

@@masterpuni7371 Disney bought the film division of Fox, not the news part of it.

[@atldesigns]

Listening to your voices walk me back off the ledge.

[@persecutor96]

If you haven’t read Everybody Lies by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, you should. Long story short, everybody lies about things they aren’t proud of, even when their answers are anonymous.

[@etherspin]

I haven't read it but awesome tip. worth bearing in mind Trump actually has a non trivial global cult going - Im an Aussie/UK dual citizen and my spouse + all my friends have some contingent of their extended family here in Australia where they have an ongoing problem cause of difference in opinion on Trump. for me it started in early 09 - one of the people who now tells me how kind and humble Trump is said the following joke to 2009 me , who didnt yet follow USA politics - " Whats the difference between Obama and God? ..... God doesn't think he's Obama!!!" to this person the free mason, secret gay, muslim, kenyan, saudi, NWO,socialist,deep state anti christ stuff all existed simultaneously with stuff about michelle too awful to even mention and now the reverse is happening to clean up Trumps reputation its saying something great about Dem candidates when conspiracy theories about sorcery and child abuse are needed to be able to impugn them and by contrast conspiracy theories about secret acts of kindness and being humble behind closed doors are needed to make Trump seem at all decent.

[@mustafa1name]

While that is admittedly interesting, most of us negotiate an acceptable range within the spectrum of dishonesty. Trump, on the other hand, has a total aversion to truth like a vampire to a crucifix, and mistakes harmful deception for cleverness.

[@Robin-cf9ts]

Everything I say is a lie....even now😝

[@jayvdb]

@@mustafa1name he has a lifetime of perfecting getting away with maximum lies, and fighting in courts to prevent consequences catching up with him for those lies. This is why four more years is so dangerous: he has had four years learning what a president can get away with, and would lean into the job in the final four years.

[@bob2shred894]

Man I can't stand trumps voice. He really has no idea what is happening in the real world

[@tonyabrookes9931]

Couldn't agree with you more

[@OntheOtherHandVideos]

And yet, just like they said in this video, it seems like his campaigns polls were more accurate than everyone else's.

[@JLynnEchelon]

I'm American living abroad and I have to say that never having to hear Trump talk is a huge advantage of not living in the US.

[@wordforger]

I fell asleep with the feed on, and woke up in the middle of the night to him declaring 'victory'. UGH.

[@emandem3088]

@@wordforger OMG that must have been horrible! You wake up from a nightmare to find you are living the nightmare. Hope you sleep well tonight 😉

[@joannepizel2728]

Oh thank god. I desparately need to watch you guys this morning, to try to make some sense of what is going on!!!!!

[@Fusionistas]

Manifesting blue Nevada so hard I think my brain’s breaking

[@geniemememe5936]

Bwhahha 🤯. My state turned more blue (Colorado) bc we got a shiny, new blue senator, Hickenlooper, but I am still totally nervous and I broke my brain yesterday, about Trump v Biden... I ate my cereal out of the toilet this morning. I used a butter knife instead of a spoon.

[@Fusionistas]

@@geniemememe5936 2020 in a nutshell

[@seanahmed9079]

Tommy Vietor is probably the coolest name ever!! I pronounce it Vee-ai-tawr to lend it more gravitas!!

[@pop6ickle557]

love you guys, rooting for you from Ontario Canada. all the love

[@Lindalindali]

Okay, time to think about the 2022 midterms

[@brianwalkup5214]

Yup! Next problem.

[@justinkidding9690]

Georgia run offs first!

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@justinkidding9690 Good,point!

[@omarelk194]

Pass the John Lewis Voting Act.

[@Chuckakhan]

Yeah repugnants aren’t gonna go for that

[@brianwalkup5214]

We will not give up, but realize our work on this front just got a little harder. We will win in the end!

[@HussainFilm]

will a republican senate allow that to be passed?

[@omarelk194]

@@HussainFilm probably not but if we win the special election in Georgia in January. Then the Senate will be tied and the VP breaks the tie. Biden is going to win.

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@HussainFilm They won’t if we don’t use our activism to put them over a barrel! If we give up before we try we let them pin us in a losing corner.

[@terigsf]

Y’all ain’t gonna discuss voter suppression? They had to blatantly dismantle the USPS to make it this close.

[@NStillman]

Omg. Hey again from NZ where I spent my yesterday and night with various Americans and other expats at two bars alternating btw despair and hope. On G&T's. And yet, it is not over. The America split is a gut punch of epic proportions tho and makes me infintessimally sad. Let's finish the counting.

[@muma8207]

Problem with polling ... people lie. We need to find a way to ask indicator questions, not direct questions.

[@heatherevert274]

Other problem with polling: people like me who don't answer polling calls. Robot calls are a super pain in the ass. This yr was the first time I actually answered all the questions before hanging up.

[@handsomesquid]

The better pollsters do ask a bunch of indicator questions to feel out policy stances. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the problem this time being an overestimated amount of Republicans switching sides, and expectations on margins for early voting.

[@lillic8522]

Maybe people are just tired of these constantly made polls, for years there hasn‘t a day gone by with some new numbers popping up about this performance or that. In Europe, politicians work and after a while you see the results. If you don‘t like the result, you vote them out. No constant polling required. Only very shortly before elections you‘ll see some, but not from every news outlet that has 3 watchers/readers....

[@sebastiang7394]

Polling serves no purpose. At the end of the day only the election counts. Polling only creates false expectations, self-fullfilling prophecys and creates politicians jumping through hoops. IMHO it would be better for the democracy if polling would stop.

[@etherspin]

538 guys said its mind boggling how many people have to refuse a poll before they can get to 10 participants, hundreds and hundreds so you are left with the question of ... what skew do the people who agree to it have?

[@charliehemming]

WE ON 264 NOW💙

[@Kdkjdjewerdnxa]

Fox News has had him at 264 for hours but other outlets haven’t called Arizona, Michigan or both for Biden yet. It’s ironic that fox is the first network to give wins to Biden.

[@pakde8002]

@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa they are so sick of Trump calling in twice a week and blathering on for hours

[@alalalala57]

@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa Right? We have fucking Chris Wallace sounding like a Dem spokesperson lol.

[@trackstar7729]

@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa everyone is probably nervous to call it after 4 years of “that thing” making journalists and reporters look like everything they say is fake smh

[@ExhaustedWombat]

@@pakde8002 how many times a week do you think he’ll call if he doesn’t have the most demanding job in the world.

[@carareda9704]

Never watched y'all. Kinda cute. I hope Biden wins but still totally disappointed in my fellow American's.

[@littlewingmyoho]

You will get real information here without the drama

[@Glenport]

@@littlewingmyoho Mmmm...a little bit of drama.

[@peterdods425]

@@Glenport cough. Lovett lol

[@SStroud2024]

Pod Save America and ALL of Crooked Media's shows are awesome and my go-to resource for the most intelligent political analysis!

[@74artgrrl]

@@peterdods425 Lovett is awesome

[@trackstar7729]

The guy with the grey shirt and the book case behind him is having the time of his life🤣. You can see that he’s waited 4 years for this moment. Love it

[@pakde8002]

Jon Favreau, former speech writer in Obama administration. They all worked for Obama. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Favreau_(speechwriter)

[@kayapapaya]

This comment has make me decide to watch the video tonight instead of tomorrow .

[@AmFlora]

Who is clapping and cheering for that "speech"? Wtf.

[@janiebuck2938]

His kids.

[@AmFlora]

@@janiebuck2938 probably.

[@wordforger]

Sociopaths?

[@AmFlora]

@@wordforger also, probably. Maybe both.

[@nomadpurple6154]

"special" guests

[@kaiberberich1]

He "wants the law to be used in a proper manner".... bahahahahahahaha... What a statement to come out of HIS mouth !!!!

[@tylerbennett4908]

I can't believe that I've been listening to y'all since the 1600 days and we're here. Feeling heavy about the the amount of trauma we went through at this point 4 years ago, and can't imagine a world where the idiot stays around for 4 more years. Also, it's all Nate Silvers' fault.

[@Rogue5747]

When the final tally is in and Biden Harris are declared officially the winners, Jon, you damn right I’ll be dancing in the street!!! We ALL should have a dance party!!! Playing David Bowie and Mick Jagger’s Dancing in The Street version! 💙💙🌊🌊🌊

[@MegzWegz87]

Waiting all day for this pod!!

[@VSchwarcz]

If only you could get rid of the electoral college 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@joshntn37111]

Young people are so stupid..lol Are you still this stupid today?

[@ashleighglen]

Thank you for reiterating that putting money in Texas makes a difference! As a Texas democrat, I'm so sick of people writing Texas off as a lost cause. As one of the voters we texted said "Texas is a blue state fighting voter suppression." Is it depressing that we pour hours of our time into trying to flip the state to only move the state 3 points? Absolutely. But if democrats stop putting money into the state now, all of that work will be lost. Here's to a Blue Texas in 2024, so we can kick Ted Cruz out of the Senate!

[@ashleighglen]

@CD Smith yeah I'm pretty bummed but I have to stay positive so it doesn't feel like the world is caving in. I'm happy it helps you too 😊

[@TaCxNUK3]

Thanks, guys. I needed that. I liked the notion that it felt like 2016 last night, (traumatic), but in fact it was more like 2018.

[@susanne5803]

1: Mistakes Obama made that Biden won't/ can't make: - Obama made the common young democratic intelligence mistake: assume facts are convincing and self-evident without explanation, talks and diplomacy. - Obamas second mistake was not calling racial discrimination what the party of mostly old, mostly white and mostly men did to him. This is a mistake black intelligent people sometimes make: They want to be taken on their own merits alone - the way it should be in a just and fair society. Which none of us are. We need to call out any systemic discrimination of any kind! Even if haters tell you: "you're playing the race card" by calling racial/ colour of skin discrimination what it is. You are not "playing the race card" - you are stating facts, helping others, too, and your changing society. As you should. 2: Advantages Biden has in this situation over Obama: - Biden is himself an old white man. He has seen tons more history than Obama had at that point. He changed his views and said so (presidential debate: reforms that led to many more black people incarcerated "were a mistake". That takes insight, change of mind and courage). - Biden is known to have worked across party-lines. He was friends with McCain who also worked pragmatically across party-lines. Biden won't stop doing so now. 3: Differences to 2016 within Republican party: - McConnell and Lindsey don't have to placate Trump any more. - They will try to racially discriminate against VP Harris. But they can't against Biden. - Lincoln Project, Republicans for the Rule of Law and maybe Republicans against Trump/ for Biden will continue with their work. They let the Republican party know very forcefully (yep, money involved) that there's a whole lotta diversity among Republicans, too. The senate will ignore this at their own peril. 4: (Sigh): - If Biden wins. (05.11.2020 05:25 MEZ) - Trump will try backseat driving the presidency via Twitter. Should be annoying. Let's see what Twitter does. - Senate seats are up for grabs in two years. Get to work! - And please: try to keep the House ... Thank you very much from Europe! Stay safe!

[@rebeccaneves1989]

I’ve been waiting for this all day...on the toilet.

[@jenniferaltuz5267]

Thank you guys for speaking truth and highlighting some positives and a way forward. I have been down in dumps in disbelief of what has occurred! I have basically shut down all other news except you. Keep it up!

[@vrencan9735]

We need to immediately be working towards the midterms. Also, Democrats do not give up on Texas! We need better on the ground work here on messaging. It'll take work but it's about progress in increments.

[@DB_Cooper.]

“Press conference” of Rudy and Eric is psycho/sick/sad.

[@seeksustainablejapan]

Thanks guys exactly what I needed to hear right now!

[@clintnoteastwood]

I NEEDED THIS

[@StoptheplanetIwanttogetoff]

this is an IQ test for the US, might just scrape a C

[@maureenrowlett1872]

Thank you so much for this thoughtful, hopeful message. I do feel better, much better, after watching the pod in particular. Your work means more than you can know. Tonight, I could have a meal without being sick.

[@hye-youngchung2766]

Use social media for polling. That's where people are most honestly insane.

[@sudikchakoirala5774]

You guys are brilliant, hands down. Such hardwork and dedication to come in rescue of democracy. You guys give me hope in our generation. Result looks promising for America, great job informing and encouraging people folks.we are optimistic with loads of nervous wrecks in between.

[@micheleruest2866]

I've been waiting to see you guys all day!

[@annec2646]

Preach guys preach! And keep pushing us to be involved! Thanks again!

[@noeliajaime7656]

Oh for the love of chocolate. I'm stressed AF and I don't even live in the U.S anymore. Alot of shit have to change before the next elections because this is ridiculous. I can only imagine how you guys must be feeling.

[@janiebuck2938]

Sick to my stomach that so many people are actually okay with it. They are either completely ignorant about our form of government, or, they are aware of it and just don't give a damn!

[@TERRENCEJJR]

Where did you move to? I'm looking to leave lol.

[@amystrajnar6462]

Do you have a guest room?????

[@noeliajaime7656]

@@amystrajnar6462 Hahahah I don't but don't worry, Biden is winning. Just hold on a little while longer. :-)

[@noeliajaime7656]

@@TERRENCEJJR Argentina.

[@TheKchar]

I’m Canadian looking in and I am blown away by the numbers that showed up to vote. I know we are dwarfed in size by the US but to think that it is virtually a 50/50 split, no matter who wins, they can’t blame the other side for shit, they are going to have to come to the table ready to engage the full country. How the hell do you get back to any sort of consensus in a country where you have a HUGE percentage of Americans who voted for the other guy is ready to to generalize 69 MILLION PEOPLE. It seems really overwhelming from this perspective. I don’t know how Americans do it

[@bradw.1945]

I just want the signs with the worst president in history depicted in my neighborhood to go away.

[@trackstar7729]

I have one house on the main corner with like 5 signs! I totally get why people want to run onto to someone’s property and knock them down. So aggravating. Can’t wait till the take them down either !

[@mrbigg2u]

Lads. I'm based in the UK, just wanted to say your pods have been fantastic company. I have been transfixed by the US election. Mainly due to my huge hatred of DJT and what he is doing to the survival of the world and basic common decency. I woke up and felt sick on day 1... but I am feeling better, hour by hour. Big up to you all, and please keep the chats coming. Your hard work is appreciated WOLRD WIDE! Cheers x

[@leedouglass4106]

Thank you for the sanity

[@MsJinting]

Jon Favreau floods my basement

[@dannydarko371]

Karen Trump wants to speak to the manager!

[@agnescleary2312]

Now, at around 8PM, Biden stands at 253 to Trump's 214. That's a good sign, but I still think it's frighteningly close. And the down ballot race results are extremely disappointing! How on earth did Susan Collins get re-elected!!?? And Jaime Harrison losing to Miss Pitty-Pat? What did he do with all that $$ he raised?

[@wenweisu99]

to be fair to voters, they were right to disregard polls and went out to vote.

[@sandy88899000947]

So good to hear from you guys! I actually got out of bed and watched this pod while having a midnight snack. Love you!

[@zerchariahalighieri8288]

That being said but Joe Biden did really well in Texas even though he lost there that's an awesome result.

[@wordforger]

Another 8-10 years and we might finally be purple.

[@tevitakale964]

As a person of color it is disheartening how many of my fellow Americans were willing to look past all of the atrocities this President has done & still voted for him. Having said that we start to change things by winning

[@J4ME5_]

I wish this was done a little later.. 11am .. a lot has happened since then

[@pakde8002]

What????

[@trackstar7729]

They said pacific time.

[@J4ME5_]

@@trackstar7729 I know.. and thank you. Im watching this at 330pm Pacific. God Speed everyone

[@aimeekluiber]

Most of us in Ohio have broken hearts about our state...so upsetting...

[@VianneyCreates]

I was waiting for this!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mollydunham2011]

Best notification I’ve gotten in 2 days! Was looking forward to hearing from you guys!

[@brianwalkup5214]

Now we need Nevada, and Georgia would be wonderful, but we need NV!

[@nomadpurple6154]

Patience my friend, we knew the counting would take this long

[@brianwalkup5214]

@@nomadpurple6154 Fair enough!👍

[@Wouldntyouliketoknow1111]

Jon: What are Donald Trump’s actual options here? What can he do? Dan? Dan: Nothing. This exchange made me so happy!

[@irenepowell4343]

I take back any positive any positive thing I said about Iowa.

[@amystrajnar6462]

IS there anything positive to say about Iowa besides, "Thank heavens I don't live in Iowa!"?

[@nickismith4787]

Iowa was stolen. The polls were right. There will be a scandal tantamount to NC in 2016 and Georgia in 2018 that will eventually come out.

[@pepesilvia4564]

Also, as a Latino, STOP with identity-politics and grouping us in voting blocks by race. This election has showed you we DO NOT vote base on our race or ethnicity, we are more likely to vote based on our socio-economic group. That's some ultra-white, privileged position (like the one you guys lived your whole lives) that has time or education/care to think about "policies". I'm telling you as a latino immigrant that grew up very poor. We. do. not. care. about. policies. If that was the case, Bernie Sanders would've been the candidate and certainly Trump or the Republican party wouldn't be this close to relection.

[@mikeharvey2748]

They’ve called Michigan

[@sandrakicklighter2735]

So how does a Biden presidency with a McConnell controlled Senate become anything but a lame-duck Presidency from day one? Also how far will McConnell take the Merrick Garland move? What happens if he refuses to allow a vote on ALL Biden nominees, Cabinet, judges, Heads of agencies, anything that requires a Senate approval?

[@johnking5174]

Hello from the United Kingdom!

[@brendafrawley3345]

Hi, from Ireland. Do u think Boris is nervous now?

[@johnking5174]

@@brendafrawley3345 Boris has a lot more on his mind than Trump or Biden winning. Boris could work with any President.

[@coletteboylan1397]

Snap!! In London 😊

[@johnking5174]

@@coletteboylan1397 I love these guys

[@RJAnalyzer]

@@brendafrawley3345 He should be!

[@tmackie1694]

I’ve always said, “Never trust the polls”, and I am sticking to it. So glad the Dem electorate were encouraged to NOT take the polls for granted and to vote as if we are behind.

[@Notfunnysam]

There were a tonne of Republicans watching the election on TYT and David Pakman. They were respectful too.

[@siempre608]

I don't know what i like more, when he is in his Snuffleupagus what ever he snorted, or the slured speach of barbiturate stupor.

[@rochellehentz8476]

It's just feels good that my mind can think about home and not have to worry about Angela Merkel is thinking, Seeing Justin Trudeau seem like he's going to cry. Just having to feel like I don't have to worry about the world and knowing Biden gots that at least.

[@IndigoBellyDance]

Sorry But depending on Susan Collins is a pathetic wish. She proved who she is many times.