2020 Hyundai Palisade | Attack of the Clones

We review the new Hyundai Palisade. Much like the Kia Telluride, both companies offer some of the best comfort in the SUV world with great features. However, there are definitely negatives regardless of the affordable price point. The question is do they offer the same luxury as BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and Audi or it is just a fake attempt?
Kia Telluride Video:
• 2020 Kia Telluride | T...
Index:
00:00 - 00:35 Intro
00:35 - 11:25 Driving Tech and Interior
11:25 Final Thoughts

[@alfreddeneumann]

I may just be the only one who actually loves the design of this vehicle. Telluride is great but I prefer this, inside and out.

[@symanthaisawesome]

BBdecool1 same

[@tylerhumpfer2493]

after we looked at both we decided on the Palisade ourselves. the Telluride is the weird looking one to us, and have received nothing but compliments on the looks of our Palisade.

[@rafaeloliva6425]

I ordered an SX model of the telluride, and will have to wait a total of 8 weeks to get the trim/exterior and interior combo I want. Sorry, but the Palisade front end and lights are over done and looks like a much more feminine wagon. The Telluride looks masculine, aggressive and so much more distinctive in comparison, especially the SX trim with the amber running that really stand out. You can spot a Telluride a mile away, which few current models SUV make that claim. The Telluride looks are already Iconic, KIA's design will stand the test of time , while the Palisade not so much.

[@rafaeloliva6425]

Maher Justice sorry that’s your humble opinion, actually but nothing rugged about palisade looks. Telluride much more masculine.

[@langlebl]

I agree! I love it!

[@jkr3008]

I do love this "roughness" of you reviews. This is yours distinctive feature, I'd say. In the modern world, when everyone tries to sell you something distracting with smoothness and sweetness, your honest and strict reviews are like a sip of fresh air. Keep it up.

[@marstotalchaos4735]

His sarcasm is @ Larry David level. Pure gold.

[@fighter835]

Pretty sure Ford has already hired a hit-man to make SG disappear...

[@danielhan8995]

I love his choice of colour to set a warm mood and he is actually more calming without the loud music and near yelling. Great shots and angles. Most of all covers everything and I mean everything. My gold standard for auto reviews.

[@animekings4990]

Yes Amen. No fancy wording, just direct opinion and truths

[@bluecollarben9836]

Let’s be honest, SUV nowadays stand for “Status Utility Vehicle”

[@rkalla]

Hah I like that one.

[@JamesOrtonVideo]

right and no one will agree that they are essentially all station wagons, mirage marketing:), to me they are giant purses.

[@2Meals]

So true. You nailed it this one!

[@dsugioaga]

Well, you could argue that anything that isn't an econobox is a status vehicle. Modern compacts and minivans have all the utility, safety and comfort you could ever need. All that luxury cars add is image and a little more refinement - whether you care about that or not is up to you.

[@billyhughes9776]

Ha, exactly. Or should be changed to SQV - "Status Quo Vehicle".

[@RyokoX37]

Watching all the ads so Mark can get his shekels. "It's not much, but it's honest work"

[@harveymorgan1749]

Anti semitic, reported

[@leviathan5207]

@@harveymorgan1749 grow up, dude.

[@RyokoX37]

Harvey Morgan, not sure if you’re joking or if you’re serious. But no, that had no anti-Semitic implication. I use the term “shekels” loosely for money since it’s been around since the time of Babylonia. Since this is a Hyundai I could have said “Won”, but I don’t think people would have got the underlying joke and it would come off as flat. Yes, I could say dollars. But where’s the fun in that? And yes... we all know Mark is smart enough to NOT be paid in Euros or Pounds so we can’t use those. But Mark is of the right mind and boushie enough to be paid in Swiss Franc’s. But the SUV is a Hyundai and not a European luxury SUV, so I also think using Franc’s as a joke would fall flat. So considering everything mentioned above, I went with the old school Shekel. Not for any Jewish implication, and yes I know Israel uses it as their currency. But I use it more for the historical value of the term. Kinda long winded explanation. But no. There is no anti-Semitic implications in my comment.

[@entertained...]

i do as well, but i have to mute fucking grammarly every time. i hate grammarly with the passion of a million men who have been given incorrect fast food orders.

[@harveymorgan1749]

@@RyokoX37 nazi

[@TheCvp33]

Good, honest review. There's a reason why Genesis, Kia, Hyundai have finished 1,2,3 in initial quality. There's also a reason why they've surpassed Ford, Mazda and VW in 3 year reliability. We drove them all - Atlas, XC90, Explorer, Highlander, Durango, Pilot, Blazer, Traverse, Enclave, CX-9, Ascent and yes even the Telluride. Other than the XC90 for $65K nothing can come close to the Palisade in interior fit, finish, quality, tech and amenities. The 5yr/60K warranty make these a worry-free ownership experience. We paid $45K for our Limited out the door after rebates and can't wait to see what the Genesis version of this vehicle becomes. Hoping for a TT V6 with even more amenities. Anyone that's driven all of these vehicles above already knows how good this vehicle is. That's why Car and Driver, Edmunds, Motor Trend and more are picking the Telluride or Hyundai #1 in head to head tests.

[@RafaelPernia]

I bought a 2018 Sorento and months later a Forte. They're great value. But don't believe all those rankings, they're paid. I mean, "initial quality"? WTH is even that?

[@HeavyMetalorRockfan9]

Kia and Hyundai, while increasingly reliable, have not surpassed Lexus, Mazda, and Toyota, who are the top 3 in that order

[@RafaelPernia]

@@HeavyMetalorRockfan9 don't know about Mazda but of course still a way to go to get to the other two. Also the price is much cheaper

[@BobKarnowski]

@@RafaelPernia This is from JD Power on Initial Quality. "The J.D. Power U.S. Initial Quality StudySM (IQS) serves as the industry benchmark for new-vehicle quality measured at 90 days of ownership and has proven to be an excellent predictor of longterm reliability, which may significantly impact new-vehicle purchase decisions."

[@RafaelPernia]

@@BobKarnowski oh I know that rank... I have a Sprento and they put the rank inside with other sheets. but JD power is a markering company, I don't believe it to be honest.

[@lyndahammel9502]

That's a shame about the Kia dealerships. We bought a 2017 Kia Sorento and had a great salesman and an enjoyable experience.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Same experience here. On the other hand I've dealt with KIA dealers from whom I wouldn't purchase any vehicle. KIA has put considerable effort into upgrading their dealer in recent years but there is still a lot of work to do.

[@timl.6685]

Same here Lynda. I bought a KIA Cerato GT and the guys over at the dealers were great. I got to test drive 2 different vehicles, got some mad discounts and extra accessories thrown in, and every time I go in for a service, their customer service has been great. Not sure where all this bad rep is coming from.

[@OffGridInvestor]

Holy SMOKE. Here in Australia they're perhaps one of the worst dealerships in existence. Don't want to acknowledge warranty issues, takes forever to get parts, they honestly never want to see you again once you buy it. People have troubles with some of the smaller ones, and they try the blame game then try to ignore it because once they write something on a form, they have acknowledged it then have to fix it.

[@stockey]

In Canada, dealers do a very good job.

[@drtvcheng]

Is there a reason why Kia dealers are such a notorious bunch? My experience is always a hit and miss among most brands.

[@jasonk7969]

I’ve bought two brand new Hyundais in the last two years, and the dealership experience was great. Knowledgeable salesman (used the same one) and worked to get me the best deal both times.

[@TheBoyUpNorth]

I had an Elantra 6 years ago and I upgraded to an Elantra Sport 2 years ago and I've had nothing but fantastic customer service at all three Hyundai dealerships I've been to. I never felt pressured into anything and they've always been honest, transparent and professional when it comes to their products and services. Sorry to those other people.

[@michaelwatson5524]

That was a great explanation of the difference between this vehicle and the X5. You guys do great work!

[@ishibi]

"This thing looks like the Elephant Man." Elephant Man: So it's BEAUTIFUL?

[@st_us]

15 years ago, No one ever could have predicted that Hyundai would toss off the Germans from their thrones

[@wonderboy1998]

Well when you have money to hiring former employees from German car companies to rebrand your company.... you stop being number one.

[@bobbowie9350]

It's about good management. I worked at Kia in your early days, it was a mess.

[@paulpellico3797]

but they haven't. i think the german cars have more power and waaayyy more MPGs than these. ditto the MDX.

[@st_us]

@@paulpellico3797 the consumption Was proven to be because of the #Dieselgate and the Performance comes with no reliability gurantee!!

[@bob15479]

Or Tesla.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

The Kia experience we had mimics what Mark said here. The salesman wouldn't stop nagging me until I told him to never call me again and hung up on him. Kia is selling 50k SUVs and Stingers. It's not 1978 - You can't treat people like this and expect that they'll buy.

[@skuzzyj]

Being encouraged to do shit like that, in (insert literally any year after the Regan administration) is why I just walked out one day and never came back when I was working at one. I was trying to elevate the way that I treated people over their standards and got nothing but shit for it. We'd have meetings and the GM would be talking up "hey, we beat Lexus in this quality metric" and I'd just be sitting there thinking to myself that this guy had _CLEARLY_ never shopped for a Lexus because nobody gives a shit about those awards. The dealer experience and after-sale service is huge. They didn't have that going for them. Their shop looked like it was still the 90s and their showroom hadn't been updated since they got the building from a Toyota dealer in like '01. It was awful.

[@letsgoOs1002]

When I got my stinger, I had to go to like 4 dealerships. 3 of them were pretty bad and lied on the phone and refused to move price at all and wanted all this down payment and dealer fees. Finally found one that was honest and it was great. But the fact that 75% of the ones I went to was awful is a shame. Hopefully they can be more like the 1 good one I found.

[@craig.encinitas]

evan weiner - I’ve heard that Kia is discounting them now...?

[@letsgoOs1002]

@@craig.encinitas the non gts for sure, that version of the stinger makes zero sense.

[@harveymorgan1749]

The stinger feels below me tbh

[@devongee1776]

@@craig.encinitas They are. The only Stinger that I would say is a bit overpriced is the GTS, but if you're considering anything other than that one, you should be able to scrape up a pretty good deal, assuming your Kia dealer isn't one of the trashier ones that apparently exist. I'm thankful that my Kia experience so far has been superb. And I only had to go to one spot to feel good about my purchase details and I have the top trim Stinger (MSRP $52k) for $41K... $41K for a car that is far better equipped and fun than the best from Nissan and Toyota's $43K+ full-size sedans; and on par in performance and features with some luxury brands as well. In my opinion, even if you paid MSRP, the Stinger is priced fairly.

[@Maxfli82]

Same experience for me buying the top trim Sedona. Kia making great cars now but dealership experience still one of the worst. Need A and B players to match your cars now.

[@ayrow69]

I love having you two together in these videos. You guys work well together and keeping things balanced.

[@netiturtle]

Geese: "Comfortable, usable, essentially a miniva.." Dan from marketing: "NOT THE "M" WORD !!1!"

[@donaldsalkovick396]

Turn that damned turn signal off. I heard it clicking for 2 minutes

[@BreadAndGatorade]

It's intentional to make fun of the demographic it is targeted to

[@alliejr]

Grandpa mode :-)

[@abbashaider8668]

You're 100% correct with their dealer network being awful. I was so close to buying a Kia Stinger but the dealership experience turned me off so much I ended up getting a VW Golf R.

[@VG22.]

its weird how they are talking bout dealer network being a little sketchy .... I have owned hyundais for the past 8 years and the dealerships in orange county have been extremely welcoming, helpful and extremely reliable. I have owned the accent limited, sonata limited and now Elantra sport with DCT.... freaking great cars and never had any problems with any of their cars. There is nothing wrong with the dealer network. The customer experience has been awesome.

[@voiceauthor2850]

Havent seen too many palisades on the road yet, but every time I do it gets my head turning.

[@Nicebitoftucka]

Exactly why I picked it over the Telluride. I find myself only looking to see if its a Kia or Land Rover. The Palisade looks more unique

[@zecc81]

First time I went to a Hyundai dealer the salesman was completely useless and put in no effort to figure out what I wanted. Then I went to Kia dealer in the same area and another horrible experience, this time coupled with slimy sales tactics. I assumed my area was just badly managed, then I moved to another state to find the same situation at another 4 dealers. It's almost strange how consistently bad they are. At the time I was looking seriously at a Veloster N but they were all marked up, some by $5000, ha! One salesman said "oh we usually don't start at MSRP, that's normal." Sure bud.. Eventually none of the marked up ones sold and they were now selling some just under MSRP, but at that point I'd already decided I couldn't let go of my desire to tinker and modify, so I bought something else of a similar configuration used and just approaching the end of its warranty, ripe and ready for me. So the dealership experience didn't directly make my decision but I definitely thought to myself "oh god I'd have to take my N to these morons for servicing?" I'm still glad that I won't need to go to a Hyundai dealer now, Veloster N is still a great car though.

[@janmnielsen3280]

Got one myself and happy so far. Just keep expectations to what it is. Great family hauler and a awesome interior setting and not a mechanical wonder with super performance.

[@angusp5515]

does it drive like a couch ?

[@janmnielsen3280]

@@angusp5515 it’s a little firmer than for example a Atlas but in line with everything in price range.

[@angusp5515]

@@janmnielsen3280 great, debating between this or the new MDX

[@jhelsel2198]

I really appreciate your opinions and viewpoints on the features of the Palisade. I especially like your thoughts on the dealership network and service, something that most review doesn't even touch on. This is a very well-rounded review and one that I will watch several times to get more out of it. Many thanks for your honesty and excellent review !!!

[@KiMazbaru3]

The brevity of this video is super good. You packed all of the necessary info in a short segment.

[@mikebagwell8229]

The official vehicle of Ulta Beauty Stores

[@dchawk81]

Lipstick on a pig. It's fitting. 😃

[@MrHav1k]

I think the Telluride looks better, but they're both great cars.

[@darienmiller1032]

Minivan without sliding doors is a really good description for this thing honestly. Put it next to a Pacifica, and the similarities are striking.

[@CarsMeetsBikes]

Randy Shackleford palisade/telluride are much larger than the Pacifica, much more road presence

[@darienmiller1032]

@@CarsMeetsBikes I Think you might be thinking of the crossover Pacifica, I'm talking about the minivan Pacifica, which is about five inches longer than the Telluride/Palisade at 203 inches, versus their respective 197 inches.

[@bobbowie9350]

80 percent of "SUVs" are more like minivans anyway.

[@CarsMeetsBikes]

@@darienmiller1032 huh interesting, i did mean the Pacifica minivan, the styling makes it look so much smaller than it is, apparently it's longer and taller than the Telluride/palisade

[@krissz22]

Love these reviews honestly you do it the best hands down!!! I did want to mention one thing... I used to sell cars for Kia now I totally understand your point about not buying a car with some stupid air suspension adaptation control aka something that will cost you when it brakes, But pls don't encourage the lease!! its a joke, already young people think they can afford it when they can't they don't understand it's financing the exact same depreciation as buying or financing and even worst because u take the worst part the first 2-3 years... And yes there's still interest in there a top of it all and fees...

[@bobbowie9350]

Then later they can't get out of it and continue to lease. Buy something reliable and keep it for 10 years. People will amazed how much money they can save by doing that. Lastly, don't buy an overpriced car with those savings.

[@VS666]

i fell into the finance everything mentality from an early age because i always had good credit so i completely agree. its pretty uncommon for anyone to actually outright own anything these days. ill take my 5 thousand dollar ls400 and enjoy every minute of it. super comfy, relaxing and cheap. my insurance is a joke too like $70 a month? never buying new again. too much wasted money, i know now well after the fact.

[@mikederucki]

Krisztian Gagyi thank you for saying this. Don’t spent money you don’t have on things going down in value. If you can’t pay cash for the car, you can’t afford it. Leasing and long term financing is a huge contributor to the astronomical new car prices.

[@pikapika4558]

the way i look at leasing is I only need to pay AU$200/week for a AU$38K car. I need to save up a few years before i can pay it off in one go or i can enjoy the car now. I can buy it back when the lease finishs and the interest rate i get is below 3%, which is not bad. So yes, i know buy it outright save money in a long term but leasing allow me to spend my money on something else while having a car i want rather than saving every cents i can.

[@krissz22]

@@pikapika4558 Man I really hope u didn't say 200 a week did u mean a moth?

[@PiroFyre]

That's crazy hearing of the Hyundai/Kia dealerships shitting on people. I personally had the best dealership experience buying my Veloster N. They were straight up with me and didn't bother bullshitting me. Obviously, they mentioned normal things like extended warranty but they didn't pressure me into it like other dealers where they REALLY try to sell you it. I was quite happy with my experience.

[@MetaView7]

If this thing is reliable, it will spell the end of GM and Ford land yachts.

[@wjfw8ij421]

Hyundai nowdays are more reliable than both

[@kenim]

@@wjfw8ij421 I would say they only lose to traditional japanese brands in terms of reliability.

[@ccvr6]

I have a 2014 Acadia Denali that is beginning to show its age and I’m looking for a replacement of the same size. The new Acadia is smaller and the new Traverse is the size I like, but I am hearing horror stories about the transmission in it as well as the electronics. I don’t want the Buick...I don’t like the exterior design. This Palisade has my attention. Hopefully these things age well and perform as good as they look.

[@lambokiller99]

@@ccvr6 switch to the Palisade or the telluride. You won't regret it.

[@miken2686]

@@ccvr6 Just purchased the Palisade Limited in black with the tan interior. Came from a Toyota Sequoia Platimum. Zero regrets. No longer needed that much space and were happy to exceed 15 mpg on a highway. I researched and drove 6 competitors and this was a clear winner. (for me) Can't imagine anyone sitting in this and driving it and saying, "meh this is just ok". Some still can't get beyond the Hyundai name and badge, but I'd encourage those folks to test drive a Palisade. This is not the economy start up many of us remember. Also, really liked the Telluride but I ultimately liked the digital dash and extra features of the Palisade. Personal preference. You can't go wrong with either.

[@muck012mk]

The statement about their dealer network is absolutely 💯. Would have gone Hyundai, but went with VW because of the shifty experience i had with a genesis g80

[@TheModerateAdvocate]

Love that you guys talk about long term ownership as well as dealership networks. I've owned Kias and Hyundais and the cars themselves are great but you're completely right that their service and support are what's keeping them from completely overtaking their Japanese rivals. I'm lucky enough to live near a decent dealership, the biggest by volume in the country, but I can't wait to pay more money for a luxury brand just to be treated better.

[@tylerhumpfer2493]

have been averaging 26mpg at 75-80mph cruise in our AWD Palisade

[@Affalterbach1967]

Gloves available for pre-order in the Goose merch store.

[@johntyson]

My wife has a 2016 Hyundai Sonata hybrid (not ideal but she has a shit commute) We get all service done at the dealer and I can tell that Hyundai is trying to improve their service department. Big difference from 2016 to now. They really push customer satisfaction surveys too. Which indicates to me that they’re at least trying.

[@eamonconnor8898]

I really love these reviews when you guys are talking to each other throughout. Keep it up please!

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

Palisade in our garage ...dealer experience was awesome and not one issue and the dealer got the car in what the wife wanted...

[@ozzstars_cars]

I bought a new three row Santa Fe in 2013 for my wife, still own it. Never had one issue with the sales department. Fortunately I am a mechanic. I had to direct the service department to the correct diagnosis of a warranty issue with the rear electronic differential coupler because they could not find the problem. That has been the only problem in 110k miles. I will be buying a Pallisade without a doubt in the next year or two.

[@michaelgrant5258]

Sounds like a red flag to me.

[@hellohowareyouimfinethanky3699]

MICHAEL GRANT why and in what way is it a red flag?

[@michaelgrant5258]

@@hellohowareyouimfinethanky3699 He had to direct the service department to the correct diagnosis of a warranty issue with the rear electronic differential. You don't see that as an issue?

[@hellohowareyouimfinethanky3699]

MICHAEL GRANT Other brands do the same thing as well. Ozzstar happened to be a mechanic who knew what was going on. There are lots of good mechanics and bad mechanics in the world.

[@ozzstars_cars]

@@hellohowareyouimfinethanky3699 very true!

[@chrisguapo69]

I just bought a 2021 Limited and love the hell out of it! Can't help looking back at that sexy beast everytime I walk away. Almost as good as looking at my E46 M3 or E36 M3.

[@geigerzoola6642]

The design grew on me, i always thought the Telluride looks 90x better

[@midnitestate]

My biggest issue are the rims they look a bit to blah

[@marstotalchaos4735]

I started liking it more when I saw the light on. Looks really good.

[@lukeiamurdad9055]

I don’t think either will age well. Every used Hyundai/Kia I’ve seen has paint issues. On a more subjective note I don’t think the designs will look so great in 5 years. Just my opinion but there is something cold/off with their exterior designs.

[@rafaeloliva6425]

Paint issues really, Hands down best looking SUV in class, Toyota/Honda/Ford all look dated and blah in comparison. You need to get over it, Korean cars have upped their game significantly in past 5 years. they have caught all the other car companies flatfooted with by far the best looking, best value and yes best warranties in the industry.

[@lukeiamurdad9055]

Rafael Oliva you are clearly triggered. Yes, paint issues do affect how a car ages, this is a well known fact. I didn’t say they haven’t come a long way, but I’m not putting them in the same category as Audi or other luxury brands as of yet. As I said, this is just my opinion and you have a right to your own. Get over it.

[@weedmastersr]

If I'm honest, I like these interiors better than the latest from Audi and other German brands because those rely too much on touchscreens and shiny plastic surfaces.

[@johnholst]

Protector...The Benz and Bimmer still use some hard buttons. But you're right, I can't stand what Audi has done. It's cheap looking, imo, and actually kinda dangerous.

[@weedmastersr]

@@johnholst Yes, they still do, BMW has been especially behind the rest in the 'make everything a screen' department, but they're all going there and it's annoying as fuck. Audi is definitely the worst, so are the new Range Rovers.

[@richarddeason58]

Everyone is acting surprised that three out of four dealers give substandard. Do they feel this is unique to Hyundai & Kia. I have experienced bad service in sales and service in just about every automobile manufacturer. That’s just a fact of life . I bought a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy, received great service from the one dealer out of three. Love the car. Love the styling.

[@devongee1776]

Very grateful for my local Kia dealerships then. Both of them have the friendliest service I've experienced at a dealer yet, both in the shop and in the sales department. They're not all bad; and don't let a potentially bad salesman lead you away from these great products. The more you buy the more money they get to work on their dealer problem !

[@Driven2DistractionAutos]

You changed just enough notes in the intro not to get sued by Disney. Bravo!

[@jacklucas7265]

You are correct about the dealer experience. I bought a 2018 Sonata Turbo, in the "finance" department the "finance guy" tried to sell me an extended warranty "because the turbo was not covered" under the 100K warranty. I asked if he was certain about this, at which point he said he was going to ask the service manager. He came back a few minutes later and confirmed that the turbo was not covered. I told him if that was the case I was not a buyer and walked out. Later that day I got frantic calls from the sales department telling me that there was a mistake and I should come back and close the deal. I had an "experience" with another dealer when purchasing my wife's Santa Fe in 2017 I forbade her from ever going back there. I live in Dallas area. It seems some of the Hyundai dealerships are operating like they did in a bygone era. The 2.0 Turbo Sonata is a great car.

[@tubes9181]

I've been shopping for both a telluride and palisade and have been treated very well at the dealers. Great video!

[@beamboy420]

Wonderfully shot video ..

[@oneopinion6806]

I'll be looking at a 3 row for the next vehicle in the next year or so and after being a Subaru and Honda owner for a bit now was startled to find so many good reviews out there on the Telluride and the Palisade. I'd truly warmed up to the idea, but hearing about dealer experience issues is a huge detractor for me. I can put on my big boy pants and just deal with it, but man do I hate car buying in the best of cases so hearing it might be a battle hurts my heart.

[@DADVICETV]

My dad was shopping for a new 3-row SUV, and as someone who works in the industry (and used to work for Hyundai Motor America) we went to check out the Palisade. The experience at the dealership was pretty bad, and we finally did get to drive the Palisade but had to leave from the poor treatment from the sales person. My dad ended up getting a loaded VW Atlas - which didn't drive as well, but the dealership experience was very good. I agree with you that the biggest problem with the Palisade is the Hyundai dealer network. There are great Hyundai dealers out there, but there are far too many who don't care about the consumer experience.

[@deanlang6054]

In my market, Kia and Hyundai are extremely successful and the dealerships are plentiful and competitive. I've enjoyed excellent service from my Hyundai product and dealership. On the road I see these vehicle brands as much as any, with the possible exception of Homda and Toyota. But when I travel east of the Missouri River, I'm amazed at how few I see. Management could learn...

[@droogii1142]

"Ultra Modern" isn't my thing I've just realized.

[@MarbsMusic]

I just bought a Palisade Limited and we love it, we considered it over some others because of the Kia Optima I bought my son last summer which has been an excellent car. We were treated fantastically at both the Kia and Hyundai dealers we worked with (the Hyundai had many of the old GMC sales staff I have deal with for almost 20 years, one of whom had sold us our Yukon XL back in 2015).

[@barrygoldwasser5449]

Great review. My Hyundai dealer experience was excellent. They're trying to sell G90s there. It's got to be good.

[@joseacuna3239]

Quality here is way better than the actual car. Putting here my view helping with the good content

[@lesahiggins9523]

Elephant Man? I’d be curious to see what you find attractive and a minivan it’s not. It’s a really nice suv for the money!

[@cloudhidden1196]

Does Scott know how much time you've been spending with Jack these days?

[@florinvid]

I don't care about Bmw's 50-50 weight distribution and cross weight balance. The way I drive a family suv with my kids in the back, I won't feel a difference. I care that a bmw costs 80-90k, and an arm and a leg to fix after it's out of warranty. "elephant man"? That's just your opinion Jack. I don't find the Palisade particularly good looking, but I find the price very attractive, a very good value and compared to the rivals (Honda and toyota) a superior car. Highlander and Pilot look like they're from the past decade, while this is actual. Just my two cents. Btw, I'm a great fan of your reviews Mr Goose, I really consider your opinions on cars but I felt like you guys didn't take this one too serious.

[@TheAndyJBall]

mark, so nice to see you back on form............worried that you had got bored and distant so relieved to see you again. keep it up you've almost sold me this motor, olooking at the uk variant which sadly will be a lot less for more

[@aaronvenn8660]

I've purchased two vehicles from the same Hyundai dealer. Both were excellent experiences, not a single complaint. I was surprised to hear that others aren't so lucky.

[@silkhead44]

i owned two hyundai's...the dealer was top notch

[@kia-thepowertosurprise5325]

Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍

[@Ethan7s]

The outtro is brought to you by your nearest Hyundai dealership.

[@anthonys6657]

I am in 100% agreement on the dealer network thing. I went to two different Hyundai and Kia dealers and I felt like I had to take a shower when I left. Yet when I visit an Infiniti or Audi dealer it’s a much, much more pleasant experience. I’m surprised that the Genesis brand doesn’t have its own network of concierge dealers. The dealerships are the weak link here. The best way to market the upper trim levels of the Palisade and the Telluride is to try to pull in those people that would normally want gravitate towards an Acura or Lexus dealership.

[@wellsparker]

The Limited is in such high demand that there are none on the lot and takes a month to get one. They are sold before they get off the ship.

[@matthewrosado2025]

I have seein the dealerships marking them up

[@MarkRVillano]

I can only speak from personal experience, but insofar as Hyundai is concerned, my dealership experience has always been positive. In 2007, I purchased a new Hyundai Sonata Limited in Chicago (which I still own and drive) and aside from the typical gripes about the high cost of dealer service and parts, which is pretty much universal across the various brands, I really can't complain. I bought a dealer demo that had 8,000 miles on the odometer with no haggling for almost $7,000 under MSRP, and other than a minor recall, and a crapped out AC compressor, it has been relatively trouble free. When I did have to bring it in for scheduled service or the replacement of standard wear and tear components such as brakes and shocks, the service was friendly, the work was excellent, and the wait time was minimal.

[@troy9er]

Sorry to hear about the dealer experience issues. I sold Luxury cars exclusively from 2000 to 2010. My CSI was always in the top 95+ percentage every year. Then luxury cars sales tanked like the rest of Obama’s economy. I moved to Hyundai, worked for Pugi in Downers Grove for the next 5 years until I retired form car sales. I was really impressed how they operated and the product Hyundai had really improved. Being someone who sold Luxury cars for so long, you all should listen to me. Pugi’s service after the sale was spectacular. They treated my customers like the Luxury stores I had previously worked for. I was selling so many people repeatedly it was crazy! I miss working for them ( Pugi ) but don’t miss all the long night hours and working every weekend.

[@RichardShelton]

Here in Tucson, the markup for a Palisade is $2K to $5K. But, there's a Kia dealership that doesn't mark the Telluride up at all. Those vehicles are sold before they hit the ground. Thanks for the nice review!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

Thank you for writing down the Canadian prices too. Very much appreciated

[@brianroskelly2177]

Don't understand why people don't like the way this looks. It looks SO premium and unique in person/on the road

[@AdamSPARTAN76]

The suggestion that LEASING spares you depreciation and gizmo headaches is not accurate. Hyundai knows these costs and builds them in + cost of capital (~14% not disclosed to the lessee) . LEASING is still the most expensive way to drive. Love your humor, production quality and insight. Keep up the awesome work.

[@jackieyoung3359]

Totally agree about the dealer networks being subpar. I went to the Audi dealership and test drove the q5, really classy first rate service. I then went to a Kia dealership to look at a Telluride and it was like I was being shuffled into a tilt-a-whirl ride at the local county fair. The sales guy really didn’t know jack shit about the car. Not well spoken, just not polished at all. I still wanted to buy and felt slightly obligated to do business with him because it was literally the only dealership that actually had one on the lot that I could test drive before ordering. I reached out to him telling him I’d like to order but had a couple questions, one of which was about the lousy 4-prong trailer outlet. It was clear he didn’t have a clue. I did my own research and then wanted to order but after being dicked around by him I walked away (he tried to force me into upgrading to the Prestige Package by telling me it was the only way I could get gray leather seats which is an outright lie). Luckily there was another dealership near to me that had a very responsive saleswoman. If she didn’t know the answer, she found out very quickly. Great communication and got the deal done. However, the dealership itself was less than desirable. Quite dingy, just nothing special. But hey, I got it ordered, feel good about the sales person whose gonna get the commission, and hopefully I won’t be taking it back to that dealership for many recalls. But yes, would be great it Kia invested a bit more into their dealer network because it is a big turnoff, especially to those of us who are first time Kia shoppers.

[@bextar6365]

Looks much better than the Telluride.....Luv it !!

[@3sons66]

...another big difference between X5 and my wifes Palisade...the X5 LIVES at the dealership constantly being repaired.

[@Tripp55]

I went to a Kia dealership near Minneapolis to test drive a Stinger GT2. I was only there for research on my future car purchase (currently in a '15 S60 R-Design). I am deciding between that and an Audi S4 and a couple of others. I actually only went to look near closing and a saleswoman recommended I come back the next day to test drive. She was with another client when I got there so I went on my drive with a different salesman. Both people were very accommodating and wonderful to work with. And the Stinger was awesome too!

[@wellsparker]

Omg! So glad I watched the whole video. Ordered Palisade. There has not been one phone call from dealership in over a month. You can tell they are not use to customers with good credit and money to buy. The date I was given has been extended by two weeks. If it does not come that date, I will go to plan B.

[@LuisMorales-sf2ou]

In Tampa, Fl dealership experience has been reallly good and effective. Owner of two 2017 Elantra.

[@MySavage321]

Luis Morales no Tampa FL Hyundai screwed me over

[@jimpease280]

Brandon Kia was horrible and I ended up with a Santa Fe from Fitzgerald in Palm Harbor. Great dealership.

[@animusfault]

Veloster N review please!

[@fabianherrmann6398]

I have seen an i30N Fastback parked around where I live here in Germany. That thing looks cool. Test that if it is available in North America though.

[@bikashtimalsina543]

I don’t think i30N fastback is available in North America rather they sent veloster N here

[@mlauri30]

I’ve had a couple Hyundai’s and the dealership was pretty good. I didn’t have any issues with them.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Man, you're cinematography is dreamy, Mark.

[@alliejr]

All true regarding "it's basically a minivan". However, you're implying that _ONLY_ this vehicle is like that. Going back to the first 3-row CUVs, they are _ALL_ "just minivans". My 2007 Acura MDX is just an Odyssey minivan. Every CUV in this class from Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, GM, etc. are the same.

[@tbmb9531]

I’ve had nothing but good experiences at my towns hyundai dealer

[@domdrty]

The Kia and Hyundai dealer network is terrible. I went to look at a V6 Stinger when they came out and the dealer acted like I was tire kicking a $100,000 car. Needless to say I walked and bought car from another manufacturer around the same price point. However I purchased an 2018 Elantra GT Sport a little over a year ago and had an awesome experience at Hyundai of Kennesaw (in GA). They sold me the car at the price listed on Trucar with no hassle, and it was the lowest price for that model with a manual transmission.

[@holyland6380]

I wish all manufacturers would make a clone of their cars and put all those full screen digital gauges, push button shifters, touch controls, piano black, futuristic and premium gadgets on only one of the siblings. So that the other car can be just a normal awesome car.

[@barrygoldwasser5449]

Hyundai/Kia... Wow! I can't think of another car company that has come this far this fast.

[@ranger2316]

If the Telluride was the only Kia/Hyundai option available ... I'd be all over it -- assuming you could find one. But along comes the Hyundai Palisade and WOW. I love the White exterior and light colored interior. My next purchase will be a Palisade ... but first I'm going to let things cool down for a bit and let production catch up. I'm not paying MSRP ... let alone over MSRP.

[@adamy3834]

Soccer practice- then to yoga- then over to Costco and then maybe a stop at chick-fil-a..home in time to watch the Bachelor! All done in my Palisade.

[@BullieDad100]

I couldn't agree more in regards to issues with their dealer network. I just bought a 2020 Kia Soul S (your early review was a big help) and I ended up buying from the third Kia dealership I visited because they treated me really pretty well overall and didn't lie to my face repeatedly like the previous two seemed to enjoy doing.

[@Lasertrac]

Love the ending. Great sense of humor

[@MarkPharaoh]

Feel like depreciation would be a bigger concern if you lease instead of purchase. The money factor on this thing is probably atrocious due to a low residual, no?

[@chrgav1286]

Technically if the Residual value is higher then the money factor will be high but If it’s a low residual more than likely it will have either bigger incentives or lower money factor.

[@panzer_TZ]

Higher depreciation means higher lease payments. For finance, it means you’ll be more likely to be upside down on the loan if you don’t put enough money as a down payment or didn’t get a big enough discount. With that said, I always tell people: Almost every new car besides something like a Wrangler or Pick up truck will depreciate like mad regardless of brand. If you’re truly worried about the cost of depreciation you shouldn’t be looking at any new car, period.

[@MarkPharaoh]

Thank you for the clarification you two

[@timothycc711]

@@panzer_TZ Some people recommend leases. If you have to justify leasing due to reliability issues your better off buying a different car.

[@saddestchord7622]

Fabulous Interior Space

[@-wd40-66]

I worked at Hyundai dealership for two weeks. I couldn’t even begin to tell you how shady the salesman are there. Took my lunch, drove to a reggae concert a few hours away and never looked back. I didn’t want to sell my soul to make a buck.

[@myaccount__7269]

Elvis TheKing reggae? What trash music. Hyundai doesn’t want you either dirty hippie

[@s.j.1298]

Recently (2 wks ago) purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD: but there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.

[@smokeu600]

Got a Kia Sportage in 2012, great service. Than got a 2016 Kia Sportage same dealership, great service. Never had a problem with them.

[@eviloks]

Love your review on the Palisade, it is honest and to the point. No cover-ups like some channels on KZbin. Am seriously considering this model for my next ride, you pointed out something which is vital in getting cars nowadays. Electronics, this might be a real pain when shit hits the fan. Had a very painful experience before with my old Kia, had the whole wiring harness changed but still didn't solve a jack. ECU is also now loaded with tons of coding unless the dealer network is able to get their acts together on driving this forward. I would think getting another Korean might be a concern for me.

[@theforgottenorg]

Walking away is literally the best thing you can do at a dealership. Of the many cars i bought new, i walked away countless times for each one, and i also wound up buying a different make.

[@Ben-bs4od]

Savage Geese is really the best for honest reviews. I like that he's honest about leasing these cars that are so technilogically advanced now compared to old front wheel drive Toyotas which one could buy and keep 20 years. Very helpful reviews.

[@CubanBeastt]

Really has me excited for what they can accomplish with the genesis SUV that's coming out next year

[@Tinrs80]

I also had a VERY VERY BAD experience with Kia years ago and i turned away from the brand. i still hear similar from people who now own them. So for me hearing how nice these 2 are i have to say “Nah!” Thanx for telling viewers bout this issue.👍🏾

[@nava11182005]

I am an owner of a 2020 palisade exactly the same white with beige, it is a front wheel drive I average on the highway 29 to 30 mpg driving in smart mode in the city I can get anywhere from 19 to 22 miles per gallon again in smart mode as long as not above 75 mpg. My only complaint no folding mirrors but was not deal breaker. I LOVE MY SUV

[@Zstray17]

I disagree with Jack with his opinion on the look of the Palisade. But I spit my drink out with he said the Nissan Murano Convertible, in laughter and agreement on the sarcasm.

[@TMM6900]

That ending with slider. Professional!