2020 KTM 300 XC TPI | First Impressions | Should you Buy It?

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First impressions of the 2020 KTM 300 XC TPI are in. At first, the bikes power was very mild and timid. I then decided to back the power valve screw out slowly and see what happens. After about 1 turn out, this dirt bike came back to life similar to the others that I’ve had in the past. I’m very happy with it now. No, I’m not happy with the loss of the kickstart, or the smaller fuel tank, but the bike feels superb overall. It’s very smooth across the RPM range. Brakes, clutch, suspension, and chassis all feel really good.
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[@joeriley353]

It blows me away that people want to stick with carbs over tpi. I grew up on two strokes , constantly fiddling with jetting. Now we just want to get on and go. Love my 350 and 500 Ktms. But I will be purchasing the new 300 XC TPI bike this fall. It will be the 1st 2 stroke I've only in years all because of the fuel injection. Thanks KTM, I'm looking forward to it

[@aaronrmz2502]

Do you not think a perfect tuned carb works better than tpi?

[@Hwyw]

@@aaronrmz2502 hey where can I read about it I want a dirtbike and I need to know what to buy

[@hornefoundations]

This is why I bought a '19 Gasgas 300 xc....it has the new Ktm frame with the bigger Ktm tank, Kayaba suspension, a Kiehn 38 pwk carb, V Force 4 reeds, Magura hydralic clutch, Nissin brakes, Excel rims, full Fmf exhaust, Neken bars/grips, frame protectors, oversized steel pegs, a gripper seat and, a map switch....all for over $1,000 less than a Ktm!

[@Jake_Hynds]

Sounds like a killer deal .. enjoy

[@RacerRed]

I love my carbed 2018 TE250. Until they make huge changes to the new bikes, i will not be interested. I will switch to four-strokes before i ride the TPI's.

[@mikedeyoung7219]

I would rather eat a cat tird before I ride a 4 stroke. Go find a buddy and ride one of the tpi bikes and I promise you they are the freaking amazing. My 19 300 tpi that everyone says runs bad is totally fine no issue other then just dont ride it when it's cold give it 30 secs to warm up...big freaking whoop

[@RacerRed]

@@mikedeyoung7219 cat tirds are no joke lol. I don't know, man. The beauty of a 2-stroke to me is simplicity. There are 4 or 5 different sensors on the TPI bikes. I know those are going to start going out soon, and the big computers are going to start dropping like flies soon, as well. I wanted to see direct inject bikes, but that totally went away for some reason.

[@norton218]

RacerRed I've rode the tpi bikes and I'll stick to my 2018 carburetor'd tx300 as long as I can.

[@RacerRed]

@@norton218 This is why Beta is going to start taking over the market soon. Then they will get big and have to comply with garbage government regulations, as well, unfortunately.

[@WJamesBeoch]

@@mikedeyoung7219 Yes, when they work they are flawless. When they don't, they're at the dealer. I have two direct reports from a neighbour & coworker of the headaches they are having with there TPI's. Extra electronics= extra weight & complexity. There is probaby a reason beta copied KTM'S counter balanced motor, but not the TPI. It's great that the TPI's are bringing some riders back to the two stroke fold. I just hope very few get jaded by the technology when it has running issues.

[@WeaponsEducation]

I just ordered the 6 day 2020, good job.

[@ThrottleJunkie31415]

Man your good! Brief, to the point, no fluff! 👍👍👍

[@ogPolen]

They probably have the screw turned in for emissions, how's the fuel economy vs carb version.

[@michaelanderson1727]

Do you think you might be able to do a review on the new yz125x?

[@justinsanders195]

BeRads channel just got one.

[@racerx9223]

Going down a tooth in the rear actually gears it higher man, raising the number of teeth requires more turns of the front sprocket to complete a turn of the rear sprocket so lowering it makes the gearing higher because it takes less turns of the front to complete a turn of the rear, making it turn faster with the same number of revolutions!

[@Gregamz]

Perhaps KTM lowered the final drive gear ratio from the factory to compensate for the loss of bottom end power with the adoption of the TPI.

[@timobrian444]

Yes, this is true. 17-19 carb bikes will be in demand. Hold on to them

[@megapet777]

@@timobrian444ktm's been tpi since 2018. 2017 and earlier are carburated

[@brianh8484]

megapet777 depends on the model. 18-19 xc’s were carb. XCW’s were tpi and carbed (18’s you could choose either) 2020 is the first year all off road 2smokes are tpi.

[@BM205]

Heres my first impression Should I buy it🤤 YESSS can I afford it Nooo😫

[@madman432000]

I think the tank capacity decreased because of the fuel pump assembly is inside. Wish KTM would have redesigned the tank for 3 gallons with the pump in tank.

[@oakmister11]

It would be nice to buy a bike every month

[@delinquense]

@MGTOW CAT FOOD SALESMAN Vote Sanders 2020 and your wish will be fulfilled.

[@thaynamite]

@@delinquense only donald will save us all :)))

[@koiireland]

@@thaynamite Donald from 3d machines?

[@eddiekelley527]

get on your grind so you can

[@clawsss]

wish my bike would even work every month

[@ggalex06]

Kyle, could you sometime please try toggling between maps on one of your bikes and let us know your observation? I realize this more difficult to do on the orange bikes, but maybe when you do some maintenance or a tank swap... I have a hunch about the order in which the two maps are loaded to the ECU makes a difference which one you get in so-called "hot" (closed wires or position 1 on bar switch). On my 19 300i, position 2 (open circuit, i believe) on my bar switch is the stronger (not really very hot) setting, opposite of what the book says. It was a pleasent surprise to play with the switch and get some missing zoom! Thank you for all you do and share!

[@WeaponsEducation]

I got a kick start on my 2020 plus new chassis was not mentioned, that makes the old 2019 "old news"

[@wesleyoke8448]

So.. bought a 2020 tx300i husky. noticed the same thing you seemed to.. power lull.. but I didn't unscrew anything.. after 2 hour mark suddenly... boom. The PIPE came on. I suspect it may be a pre set in the mapping during break in period. Now the second map is still similar to that gentle early hours, with the ignition delay and seemingly no high end or "pipe", which catches a bad wrap but it is great in first and second for slow nasty steep shale scale rock on incline with loose rock and football sized clusters... Any way I suggest to others wait till some of the break in is done.. before adjusting. like I say... 2.1 on the hour counter and the bike just exploded and started screaming. After 5 hour it seemed to be broken in and man... its honestly just a perfect storm. Cheers!

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

2017 250/300 sx/xc. Perfect...

[@chrisi2348]

the 2020 tpi models aparantly run way better than previous models. but the new height sensor of the fuel injection has a some mesh in it that quickly stuffs up. if you remove that itll work better

[@MrBe787]

Not interested. KTM really pissed me off with mandatory TPI and no kickstarter

[@gncc444]

KTM did not make it mandatory. Governments did and the U.S. got to hold on to carbs a lot longer than any of the euros did. Hats of to KTM for even investing in modern technology two strokes at all.

[@gncc444]

@MGTOW CAT FOOD SALESMAN you absolutely can, but it is still not modern by KTM engine design standards. It's roughly the same engine from around 2000. While it is the best of Japanese 2ts IMO, it is not nearly as refined as the KTM engine. And just hang on it's days are numbered. The fact that Yamaha has not even hinted at adopting an injected 2t looks pretty damning that when that bike can no longer make the emissions they will just drop it. If you want 2 strokes to continue into the future they have to change and KTM is doing a great job with it.

[@goodboyringo9716]

@@gncc444 ... The US government didn't mandate anything , the EU did. The US Government didn't take away the kick start either.

[@Frankfoot986]

Eric Be you and me Both. I’m in the market for a 2012-2016 300xcw

[@brucekimpton4725]

Would it be difficult to put on a kick start

[@ericc90]

New technology just makes me stay away even more from new bikes. I’ll stick to my old school steel framed CR500

[@BrianLampright913]

Eric C. Oh man are you missing out! My 2008 CRF450R is collecting dust after buying a 2018 KTM300...this bike is magical!

[@Wafflemaste]

I own a 2017 exc 250, and ive ridden several tpi bikes. I also own a cr500, what keeps me from selling the 250 or getting a TPI bike and stick to the 500 is the fuel comsumption.. Its not ideal. 😅

[@stevenshaw6834]

Would you rather the 300 XC or XC-W for 2020? A lot of mixed riding types, from tight rocky single track to sweeping faster stuff? I'm contemplating the XC-W but worried about suspension and gearing being low for the faster stuff....

[@TagTeamDream]

I was in the same boat. From my research the xc seems to be the best all around bike. Xcw would be best if you only did slower tighter riding. Kyle says he likes the xc more often

[@2smokerjoker178]

Hi Kyle whens the vid coming on the 300 tpi 19 with the get ecu installed?

[@tgull8096]

Glad this was posted ...just got a 2019 , seems good , would like to catch up with what’s goin on. Good work as usual. Flush or a skosh in is usually magic on the power valve screw...the adjustable power valve is a nice nice feature.

[@anythingadrenaline4515]

Just bought this bike 2 hrs ago. I'll give you guy's updates

[@blugods2655]

Anything Adrenaline update?

[@anythingadrenaline4515]

@@blugods2655 So far so good. I had a Rekulse clutch installed. WOW it works wonders. Bike has great power in low end for a 2 stroke. It really is like a 4 stroke & 2 stroke combined in my eyes

[@northernlightse3066]

Love your channel. Finally settled on a 300 xc. I'm aware of some of the differences by the years but do you think it would be a waste to buy a clean 2012 for a good price or would you advise saving up for a later year? Thanks for all the great work!

[@Cee-FJedi]

Thanks Kyle, any chance your going to get an XCW (EXC) 2T for testing?

[@ajdorrington-sadoski9420]

He has one

[@Logan-or5qw]

I'm starting to lean more towards a 250x. The removal of the kick start is a deal breaker for me. I've heard nothing but positive reviews on the YZX's and very little negatives on the 300'$. Your not going to find a 300 in either brand on the used market! Believe me, I've been looking for 5 years. If they have, they are sold the day they were posted. As tight as the trails are around here where I live, I don't think the extra 50cc. is going to be missed. If I want more torque, I can always change the front & rear sprockets and a complete FMF exhaust. Your about my size Kyle what are your thoughts?

[@blacklight4460]

Smaller tank and no kickstart. Sounds like Apple's "improvements".

[@chrisi2348]

the 4stroke models have no kickstarter for quite a while now. i never had a problem with it and did not hear anything about it. with the tpi system the fuel consumption is much lower so there is usually no need for the extra fuel. but i get the point. why make it smaller, whats the advantage...

[@ramireyes6852]

😂😂

[@brock6286]

😂😂 LMAO

[@Hwyw]

How does tpi work or can you direct me to a resource that will tell me?

[@brock6286]

Zechariah Stanley this is on google, because I can’t explain it that well haha. :The TPI system in its 2018 EXC two-stroke range that it claims makes the engine smoother and reduces fuel consumption, but how does it work? ... In the KTM system, two-stroke oil is pumped into the throttle body, to lubricate the crankshaft, barrel, and eventually the cylinder bore and rings.

[@440mxc]

Should you buy it? Not only NO, but hell NO. KTM’s decision to ONLY offer fuel injection on the new 250/300 XC and XCW’s was beyond stupid. KTM’s decision to drop the kick starter was beyond stupid. These bikes are still sold as a Closed Course bike in the US, so the TPI decision is OBVIOUSLY not about the emissions. Do you like getting stranded in the middle of nowhere? Imagine having a Rekluse clutch (meaning you cannot bump start), and being stuck 20 miles from the truck because your battery dies. Or maybe the fuel injection has decided to stop working (as has been WIDELY reported on the ’18 and ’19 bikes). I have 3 KTM’s, all with carbs and a kickstarter. All 3 have been awesome and reliable, but they are the LAST KTM’s I’ll buy, assuming KTM doesn’t come to their senses. And the only way KTM is going to do that is if people outright reject KTM’s poor decisions.

[@lorenzo3]

guys can you help im a young boy and i like enduro bike i used my beta 125 for 4 years now and its time for a new one but i cant decide between beta 300 and beta 350/390 i had use my bike for school and weekend ride and i really enjoy the enduro bikes, im not a biker but i like to use mine with friends and and making noise and stupid stuff around , so can anyone give me an advice (never had a 2 stroke ) which one to buy? i prefer stay beta thanks again

[@Jake_Hynds]

What do you think of one of these ktm tpi bikes with all the improvements compared to the classic yz250x you were riding a while back ?

[@ShaunKjar]

Kyle, what trail were you on there? Looks amazing!

[@delinquense]

It is my understanding that TPI gets way better mileage. Wouldn't this offset the need for the larger tank, with the added benefit of weight reduction.?

[@davenawahine6934]

Could you do a test ride on a Slavens Fully decked out xc? It seems he's pushing the limits on just how good these bikes can be. I'd like to hear what you think in comparison to a stocker. I have to think his personal bike is worth 15 or 20k Mule porting, s3 head mod, TPI relocated to reed cage injection, get CDI, power valve mod, national shock, and fork mod.

[@spanner752]

hey mate,,ive just bought a 2020 husky tx 300 tpi,,,,love the bike but have a big soft spot in the power valve delivery,,,,can you give me instruction on how to wind the powervalve screw out ect?

[@archie3746]

would the give away be worldwide or just the US?

[@bonzaralph]

Hey Kyle, As an owner of a much loved last carby (2018) 250xc is there any real world reason to be looking at updating? Cheers

[@TCR253]

Have you tried using the black throttle cam? If so, which do you prefer?

[@benlundgren3760]

These new two strokes are awesome. Glad to see Yamaha get in the market with the YZ250x. Also liked learning about Betas, and other models I knew nothing about. Any speculation that Kawasaki or Honda will join the 250/300 two stroke market?

[@klecooaleksander4332]

mostly just fake pictures and rumors sadly...

[@mikeburnett6222]

Kyle; You mentioned the smaller tanks on the 2020's. In your review could you include the MPG's you're getting with the two new bikes?

[@leeham273]

Its been well established that you dont too much better mileage. Its around 1-3 miles better.

[@bongofury5924]

Will the 2020 shut itself down like a powerwasher if you run her out of premix oil? Or will it allow you to melt it down like a Hershey's on the dashboard.

[@cadwarrior]

Where is the 300xc 2022 in your shop????

[@Hondarider35]

How many hours before you do a top end? Also how many hours till you do lower end? On the 300xc

[@harlanpepper6848]

So did tpi come because its "better" or because European environmental standards changed and they had to do something? I own a 2017 ktm 300 exc w and its carb w a kick start and I think after all this tpi bull my bike is gonna be really in demand. Or beta stock is gonna go up..probably the later

[@Recedinghairline180]

Government mandated emissions control. Nobody wanted tpi on 2 stroke bikes. This is the last dying yelp of 2 strokes, soon the emissions will be so strict they will be banned.

[@harlanpepper6848]

@@Recedinghairline180 well I feel like with all the talk about the tpi my 2017 is and will continue to be le pièce de résistance of 2 strokes.

[@Recedinghairline180]

@@harlanpepper6848 Didn't say they aren't great. Im sure they run awesome in most cases. I personally have never ridden one. I'm just saying its extra weight and complexity on a design that was simple and reliable.

[@harlanpepper6848]

@@Recedinghairline180 no agree the are probably badass I'm just wondering if the juice is that worth the squeeze. Seems like alot of moving parts and likes and technical things to get more performance?

[@Recedinghairline180]

harlanpepper6848 it’s not about performance it’s about meeting regulations to sell bikes. My carb runs great, hear that tpi has issues

[@aixracing7755]

Ktm website said tpi (exc model) bike will consume 2,7 gall every 100km, which is 1 liter gas every 3x.xx kilometers, compare to the carb version maybe its gastank more than enough, does it?

[@maxsanta234]

Kyle, Where are you riding in this video? Looks gorgeous.

[@davidgrunklee8407]

does 250XC still have a livelier/peppier feel with a slightly less vibe feel (I realize there is nearly zero but...)??

[@matthiasforstenpointner9124]

Is the 2020 model already better than the older tpi. You can find many many complaints online and I am not sure if I should buy the 2020 or rather wait for the 21‘. Does anyone know if there will be changes on the engine next year or only minor things?

[@premixpeter1972]

All of the bikes are crazy expensive...good thing the Yamaha YZ250X is still under 8k MSRP and has a carb and kickstart! And Beta is less than KTM and comes with a carb and lower seat height! I'm thinking that KTM is going to lose big chunk of sales to Yamaha and Beta in 2020.

[@leec48s45]

All my stock KTM pipes up to 2017 models have cracked.

[@danmyers4763]

Where did you get that lift strap for the back end? I have not seen that one before.

[@abdulrahuman4912]

can we ride it in public roads in india

[@flashdrz]

Has the oil injector system worked well on all your TPI bikes?

[@matthiasforstenpointner9124]

flashdrz Fair question. I am asking the same one for weeks now and haven’t got any useful answer unfortunately.

[@flashdrz]

I wonder why? He's had 8 of those TPI bikes but doesn't mention how the oil system does. Wonder how much the oil they recommend costs also?'

[@megapet777]

So it's not full power out of the box? What a shame. Who would buy ktm and not expect lot of power from it?

[@mcsbikelife3829]

Hey Kyle good video I have a quick question though would you be able to get a gas gas to test and compare? I’ve been on one the last year and it’s a great bike now the motor is not as good as ktm or probably the new beta. The handling makes up for it though , as a guy who rides ktm etc and knows the in and outs I’d just love to hear your opinion. Thanks god bless

[@dreadedtred]

Nice yellowish gas tank. 👍🏻

[@redhotforge5812]

Where do you buy your dirt bikes

[@Micscience]

adding comment for support.

[@billyvolo]

Me too

[@scottgaskill4896]

Does the sx tank fit on the xc?

[@tonypride3859]

What’s a aux screw for

[@Hoodyhoo2121]

Got rid of the kick start and made the gas tank smaller? KTM just keeps doing what the customer wants.....

[@bkscharma718]

I got offered a pretty sweet deal on a 2017 300 xc 6 days with only 13 hrs, do you think I’d be missing out if I went with the older model vs a new 2020 300 tpi?

[@stevebaum]

I have the 17 xc-w six days. The carb was finicky, I got a Lectron but a Keihin would have been great too. I hated the fork (spongy when hot) & sent it to Kreft for tuning. Engine was good, but I put a high compression head on for more giggles. It is now the most wonderful single track and medium- hard enduro machine I’ve ever had. I’ve owned 5 bikes and this is the keeper. I ride every weekend in N. CA and go to Moab 1/year for a week.

[@mobgma]

Was power valve a PDI issue?

[@liamsnider769]

Review the yz125x

[@alistairbalistair9596]

i wonder why they would neuter it like that and send it out for sale.

[@nickel8664]

Where are the dynamometer numbers? "It feels good" Wow, really? Can you lend me your feelings meter to test my bike with?

[@ricksanchezc-1386]

It says first impressions in the title.... not specs you brain dead fuck

[@binstunting1]

Why does this 2020 XC TPI not have headlights and a tail light ?

[@TagTeamDream]

The xcw version has the lights. The xc does not.

[@nev357]

All orange motorbikes are good.

[@aaronrmz2502]

Husky 2 strokes are sexy :o I know they are just rebranded KTMS but I think they look nicer?

[@blugods2655]

Aaron RMZ250 they have minor differences from what I’ve seen

[@snowmoto9555]

Test the new lectron h series on your 2019 ktm before you give it away

[@bradyoakland9287]

snowmoto the 2019 is a tpi

[@snowmoto9555]

HumptyDumpty the 2019 250xc has a carb the xc went tpi in 2020

[@Gregg0112]

I thought these new bikes had two maps. One more aggressive than the other?

[@TagTeamDream]

This is true. But you have to take off the seat and unplug it for the 2nd map. You can hook it up to a button if you want. Most people say map 2 is horrible anyways and to just stick with map 1

[@lancairw867]

I see they pre dent the pipe since it will on the first ride like mine 😆

[@jkpupo1]

Them some ugly gloves. Will that aux screw work the same on my 18 carb 300? Already running the red spring.

[@ZenDude65]

Man I love your videos, Thanks so much for doing this. But I would like to see your wife in a few more, she's a hoot.

[@kadinstennes3626]

What d those bikes weigh?f

[@hobidolap]

xc or xc-w...

[@BrianLampright913]

babur.karaoglu I had that same debate and it depends what you ride. I ride the same stuff Kyle rides here in Utah and I got an 18 300xcw which is amazing for singletrack mountain riding but in the open desert suspension holds it back. I sent the suspension off to Kreft last week to make it closer to a XC hopefully that will give me the best of both worlds.

[@hobidolap]

thanks for the input...

[@BrianLampright913]

Also, the XCw suspension was actually better than I expected in the desert I thought it would be a marshmallow and it wasn’t. I could still hit whoops and other high speed obstacles fairly well, but I had to be more careful than an XC or my Honda which has ProAction modified suspension for desert/MX. If you are a fast rider (you race) you might want the XC. If you are more of a trail rider that isn’t as fast and aggressive you’ll like the w suspension in stock form. The w is amazing in rocks and roots.

[@grindlex9]

When is the YZ450FX test coming???

[@lorelleggg]

No kickstart is a bad move

[@adg2011mm]

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[@alienchaser636]

How fussy are you?? Jeepers.

[@pushmotivation-__asher1335]

Damnit I wish they’d just make a street legal version

[@xlr8offroad]

They do, it's called a Beta ;)

[@Jake_Hynds]

@@xlr8offroad yea but even those betas cant be street legal in alot of places even tho they say it is

[@andrewsmith2948]

"so much email"

[@misternaem2103]

That hurt to hear, among the other phrases that didn't make any sense. 😂

[@jesse9705]

What’s the basic difference from the 250 to 300😂

[@cjlavesser]

It's one louder.

[@Trialstire]

50cc

[@Bimmere]

Bottom end torque, that’s all...

[@BrianLampright913]

I ride both, 300 is actually more mellow and super wide powerband with more torque. It’s better for technical riding. The 250 revs quicker and hits a bit harder and is really fun in more open riding.

[@bobthebuilder101ism]

Cool story bro

[@annguyenvan8345]

xe đẹp quá

[@metricmoto]

You just f'd that bike up by adjusting power valve.

[@metricmoto]

You have to adjust it plugged into XC2 while maintaining 4k rpm.

[@xomuz9200]

First comment

[@BudgetGroundPounder]

Lol. You say everyone wants to nitpick & split hairs. Just after talking about a one tooth difference in the rear sprocket & other things. Lol Plus that really didn't tell us if we should buy it? Sounds like you should just buy something used. With bike prices being stupid high.

[@Danger_mouse]

Not really selling the bikes there.... Out of the box slow, no real advance over the model it replaces and air fork on an Enduro bike is completely crazy. Never mind not having a kick start, at least you can run start the engine. What happens when, not if, the air fork collapses? All this for $1500 more than Factory model Sherco or fully loaded Beta in Australia. Lots of gullible orange people out there. 👍

[@ktthao5224]

This guy needs to change his channel name to #ktmfanman 😂

[@1991tommygun]

Dislike because who wants a 2 stroke with no kickstart and fuel injection, im sorry but thats gross i rather a carb bike and kicker

[@lenny3394]

First

[@jacobbensley2763]

third comment