Germany and Japan against America I think I’ve seen this one before?
@CrazyGonsalez5 жыл бұрын
Germany and Japan against USSR mostly
@6.2Slomaro5 жыл бұрын
Dan Neri so is the mustang Fat man and the camaro Little boy ?
@UsernameValidFooH5 жыл бұрын
@@6.2Slomaro Fat man and little boy. Dont be dumb
@youtubetrollking18805 жыл бұрын
and the gt 500 will be the fat man that ends the war.
@leroy_moose5 жыл бұрын
OMG so funny haha great time my dude 7.39/10 #AMERICA
@danielallocca77705 жыл бұрын
You guys have hit your stride. The production quality and content is as good or better than motortrend was before they fell apart on KZbin
@mr.bigblock13165 жыл бұрын
Strunz0 Cars welcome to my channel
@remissiveslave5 жыл бұрын
Hard to go back to any other car channel honestly, they really get it right indeed.
@89elmonster5 жыл бұрын
Yeah wtf happened to motortrend they used to have tons of view and now nobody watches them
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate! Appreciate it, always great to know that the hard work is worth it
@joshuaszeto5 жыл бұрын
@@89elmonster they wanted more money so they went to a subscription model. Dunno if thats working out for them or not though
@alexvinson73733 жыл бұрын
In college I had a 5.0 liter Fox-body Mustang and one of my roommates had a 1st gen Supra. We raced a lot back in the mid 80's. Mine was way faster, but only in a straight line. Some things never change, lol!
@1CoLoRz23 жыл бұрын
I mean they were practically the same around the track. I'm sure given another lap or 2 he could've slightly beat the supra. The Performance pack 2 GT beat the supra by a measurable margin though.
@rickmassey12723 жыл бұрын
@@1CoLoRz2 lap times this close is not about the car... it's about the driver.
@1CoLoRz23 жыл бұрын
@@rickmassey1272 I think you missed the point of my comment
@jansonb4823 жыл бұрын
@@1CoLoRz2 the supra also could've improved
@1CoLoRz23 жыл бұрын
@@jansonb482 Yes, but the point is they're "within the noise". They're so close they could've gone either way depending on the driver and such.
@bigd8354 жыл бұрын
For the money, I'll take the mustang. Lots more aftermarket part available too. plus, VEE EIGHT
@zzhd50024 жыл бұрын
Cylinders don't really matter that much now a days
@janbaglan73184 жыл бұрын
Bolton's, tune and exhaust and the supra is going to slay fucking everything
@joelopez50184 жыл бұрын
Jan Baglan Paxton on the mustang and you’re beating zr1’s z06’s and 90 percent of all the other cars out there.
@yajiinaachi4 жыл бұрын
if you are really dumb, you will get mustang. it breaks once in 3 months. total trash. sold mine
@FerRod21134 жыл бұрын
MIKE JOSHUA I have 3 mustangs and 2 of them get abused hard in terms of racing, one is pampered. The pampered one is a 1970 302, original motor and trans, original paint and interior, and after 50 years, it runs strong.
@fullofhopkins13225 жыл бұрын
As everyone has said, you guys have filled the void left by Motor Trend. Thank you for this channel. Please keep doing what you’re doing
@sonicboom8795 жыл бұрын
Based on the info, it looks to me like the Mustang won. Cheaper price, more power, faster straight line, and can keep up with a Supra on the track.
@mtinfinity78455 жыл бұрын
sonicboom879 It's also a sexy looking car.
@johntheaccountant55945 жыл бұрын
I really was thinking this Toyota Supra is going to be the one. I was disappointed to think that the Mustang wasn't that much slower on the track than the Toyota. And when you think value for bucks; the Mustang is a steal then. If the BMW components are typical, then in the future the plastic engine components will give the Toyota Supra expensive maintenance components compared to going to an Auto Car shop and buying parts for the Ford. I always consider that because I always look at new cars with the potential of buying them second hand in 4 years time.
@JerseyMikeP5 жыл бұрын
Actually the Camaro SS 1LE. Faster all around and for alot less $$$.
@Haulass95gt5 жыл бұрын
@@JerseyMikeP The GT350 costs less than the 1LE and kills it on the track.
@brocks6925 жыл бұрын
@@Haulass95gt no it doesn't 😂 1le is a 6-7k performance package and a 1ss with said 1le pack cost like 40k, a gt350 is like 65k+ lol
@kevins38214 жыл бұрын
Dunno man, I remember last time Germany and Japan worked together, it didn't end well.
@rivr51144 жыл бұрын
WWII
@paulmaartin4 жыл бұрын
they barely did anything to help one another.
@HEATHENS50744 жыл бұрын
Yehh world war
@jushthepanda98823 жыл бұрын
Best comment on KZbin
@rickmassey12723 жыл бұрын
... 😆 lol
@Jedi3913 жыл бұрын
When you’re talking about a difference of .12 seconds over an entire lap, it’s basically a tie. I mean, if the driver sneezes it’ll make that difference.
@MrSir-kj1gy3 жыл бұрын
Nah. 12 is a lot of time when it comes to professional drivers.
@Adamn583 жыл бұрын
@@MrSir-kj1gy these guys are far from pros
@Adamn583 жыл бұрын
@GP_Motorsports heavier, cheaper, and better sounding. I have a PP2 GT and I absolutely love it
@voidx32042 жыл бұрын
@GP_Motorsports one right turn and ur "mustang" is gonna be flipping in circles while u get smashed in the car and paralyzed
@rosibalisong44032 жыл бұрын
@@MrSir-kj1gy For professional drivers, in WAY faster cars, in this case, it doesn't really matter.
@telliesmith98255 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they did auto to auto instead of what everyone else do auto to manual good channel 👍
@ufarkingicehole5 жыл бұрын
Agreed...less chance for driver error effecting results
@timonxDlol5 жыл бұрын
I think thats kind of a random thing. The companies will give them whatever car is available so some get manual mustangs and some get automatic ones
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
@@timonxDlol We purposefully sought out an auto to make it a match
@ufarkingicehole5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesengelsman9369 good call. Just wish you guys would swap cars during your test. Take the best overall times as the final test result. BTW...Good content !!
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
@@ufarkingicehole Thomas is a superior driver to me. He's also a track instructor. My times wouldn't really help the science of it
@PRRrailfan5 жыл бұрын
With the markups dealers are giving the new Supra, you could buy a GT350 and blow it out of the water on track too.
@brenxbux5 жыл бұрын
The way that they mark them up should be illegal but ofc in the US the laws are designed to help stealerships, not consumers.
@Morgorath305 жыл бұрын
Buying new is dumb anyway, so dont worry about it. Wait a couple years.
@177SCmaro5 жыл бұрын
@@brenxbux If someone wants a gt350 or a Supra or whatever so badly they're willing to pay over list price who are you to point a gun at them and tell them they can't?
@jahimuddin73805 жыл бұрын
@@Morgorath30, I agree that buying new can be stupid, but that is what is killing off things that car guys love.
@Morgorath305 жыл бұрын
@@jahimuddin7380 nah. Enough dips buy new, always need the shinier thing.
@FerRod21135 жыл бұрын
Me: Wow badass cars! Let me go out and get myself one Car insurance in California: I’m about to end this mans career
@jonathankeith5245 жыл бұрын
Leave California. You won’t regret it.
@V8orNoCar5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Keith first let me finish my program in automotive technology & hybrid and then I’m thinking about moving, because rent here is $1000 for a 2 bedroom apartment.
@jonathankeith5245 жыл бұрын
Luis Santana Wow that’s ridiculous. My family and I left California. I’m paying about $375 a month here in Arkansas, at a decent apartment. Then again, it’s a small town. I don’t miss LA though. Too many stupid regulations. I can delete the cats in my Mustang here, and nobody cares.
@cindysue54745 жыл бұрын
@@jonathankeith524 What about when you go through emissions testing?
@Cal30005 жыл бұрын
@@jonathankeith524 I have quite a few friends that left California and regretted it. lol. CA is expensive and only has terrible policy if you are a car enthusiast, other than that, it's the best state to live in.
@jacobzimmermann594 жыл бұрын
So the Mustang is faster, more faithful to its heritage AND cheaper. Looks like we have a winner!
@m3competitionracer7883 жыл бұрын
I would still buy the Supra....it’s a legend and it got better handling....on the race track the Supra kills the Mustang
@jacobzimmermann70063 жыл бұрын
@@m3competitionracer788 Well the Mustang is a legend too, and provided that you get one with magneride and a torsen, it handles beautifully too. But I'm not disparaging the Supra at all, whichever if these two cars you get you won't regret it.
@Michael-tm6vs3 жыл бұрын
The supra is actually much closer to it's heritage, it's still a rwd, 6 cylinder, turbocharged, Japanese-ish, sports car. The mustang is a full blown sports car, not a muscle car anymore.
@m3competitionracer7883 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-tm6vs Yeah and the street Racing history of the Supra is what makes her so interesting and attractive to me....it’s a JDM legend
@jacobzimmermann593 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-tm6vs That's a fair point I assume, on the other hand to me "muscle car" tends to mean sports car that relies on brutish power rather than weight reduction, aerodynamics and other perks. The Mustang certainly fits in that category. It's no longer the muscle car of old, meaning standard car with an oversized engine, unbalanced chassis and no handling of any kind, but that's a change for the better.
@norwegianblue20175 жыл бұрын
Mustang by a mile. Faster, almost identical track times (with stock tires), looks better, has a back seat, and keeps $10k in your pocket.
@alexmustata40895 жыл бұрын
$20k+, 100+ hp
@ben117ful5 жыл бұрын
Norwegian Blue almost identical drag times also.
@rm1255 жыл бұрын
BabySnake20 It really nearly identical drag times. Look at the car community - Mustangs with A10 trans out trap Supras by 7-8mph and usually best their ETs by 0.3 -0.4. I love the Supra- but in a straight line- the 5.0L and A10 trans is walking away
@acewingdabson31395 жыл бұрын
That mileage tho
@ben117ful5 жыл бұрын
rm125 yea, im not sayying that the mustang cant beat the supra in a drag race but for its power compared by both, the mustang was only walking the supra by not that much. They are both good cars tho
@q8mohammed905 жыл бұрын
3:35 the thing we care about.
@barbosaguzman61014 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@handro884 жыл бұрын
MVP
@marcobrancorsini24794 жыл бұрын
@@barbosaguzman6101 No, I care about track times. Going straight is no fun.
@BoiFast4 жыл бұрын
Marco Brancorsini I drive straight about 90% of the time and its fun as hell. But when I do get a chance to go in some corners I have fun as well. I get WAY more opportunities racing in a straight line then in the corners unless I go to a circuit lol
@marcobrancorsini24794 жыл бұрын
@@BoiFast I find straight line racing much less interesting.
@gordontheman61515 жыл бұрын
In 2019 the Civic beats the Supra on a track. Imagine hearing that in the 90s
@chung729chung5 жыл бұрын
Gordon TheMan Civics were so much faster on track back then. Every countries know, except Americans.
@slowschoolofdriving2185 жыл бұрын
The 90s weren’t any different. A 90s civic type r would destroy a supra around a track
@bigtrack36825 жыл бұрын
I like lap time charts as much as anyone, but you have to remember that test day temperatures matter a lot, making them a little hard to compare. He mentioned the crazy heat in this test more than once, and that will hurt lap times, especially in a turbocharged car. That said, you are absolutely right!
@chung729chung5 жыл бұрын
Goondindon graduated from elementary school yet?
@f1812345 жыл бұрын
Chis Slidez depends on the track something short and curvy yea it’ll beat it but on a GT500 track with super long straightaways and banked corners the civic would run out of breath
@ODST_Republic4 жыл бұрын
Should have just said "I'll win this for the Axis of Power"
@gojiragirl694 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 😂 I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING
@eeehmmwhat24065 жыл бұрын
The Ford Mustang is just an iconic sexy looking sportscar with a brutal sounding V8.
@MikesComedyCrib4 жыл бұрын
False. Not in the Mustang
@talontd37274 жыл бұрын
B dawk!
@pigatt14 жыл бұрын
@My name is Steve Rogers lol, stop
@brandizzlenaugget96224 жыл бұрын
And it’s quite the crowd killer
@jpogigtxcr17784 жыл бұрын
I'm Star lord legendary outlaw False. The ecoboost mustang pumps fake sounds thru the speaker. The mustang gt have a sound tube, from the intake manifold, that pumps induction sound to the cabin. Nothing electronic about it.
@ehjhey75 жыл бұрын
More reasons why I prefer you guys as reviewers these days. -You did auto vs auto unlike a lot of the others to do something similar. -You actually acknowledge that the engine is also used in the m240i (yes it's a slightly different revision,but almost nobody ever mentions this)
@RW-zh7kl5 жыл бұрын
"Im going to win this for Germany.. ahhh Japan!"
@user-sp2tm2iz9l5 жыл бұрын
In WW2 Germany and Japan were comrades
@connorburke57614 жыл бұрын
@@user-sp2tm2iz9l BMW is German...
@niksonrex884 жыл бұрын
This channel is top notch. Feels like I'm watching top gear. So informative, fun and quality. Keep it up guys!
@DrBaboon19935 жыл бұрын
You guys are a seriously underrated channel! Your content is awesome!
@Tea____5 жыл бұрын
These cars remind me of the rivalry in fast and the furious between brian and Dom Turbo inline 6 vs American V8
@SamotLS75 жыл бұрын
Just use a black scat pack challenger, and boom
@funkybasstrix5 жыл бұрын
You're right. I still like American Muscle
@Tarmac764 жыл бұрын
These guys deserves to have the most subscribers of any automotive channel on KZbin. Amazing production, they have real chemistry, they're not trying to be funny, they just are, and they know their stuff. Well done!
@RoyalSkylineGaming4 жыл бұрын
I wanna see supra Vs. Base C8
@bankrobba67314 жыл бұрын
The c8 corvette will fucking DESTROY the supra😂
@daredevilgamingz19064 жыл бұрын
omg royalskyline
@74kross4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? The C8 will blow its doors off
@brayann__4 жыл бұрын
Wtf kind of comparison 😂
@mroversteer37394 жыл бұрын
That’s not a comparison. That’s just wanting to see the supra get tortured lol
@Matt-gn7uz5 жыл бұрын
The Stang is such a better value. It's a crying shame the Supra didn't come with a 6 speed manual. Love the Vette shirt.
@hellario25 жыл бұрын
So, when C8 is out, are either of these cars relevant? Should outperform them both on speed and value
@User-es2yz5 жыл бұрын
hellario2 daily driving these would be relevant (more the stang tho)
@hertzer20005 жыл бұрын
The drag race was much closer than I thought it would be. That Supra is no joke.
@martinscocan52215 жыл бұрын
clearly has a LOT more Hp and Torque than published, although Fords are usually over rated
@Boomtendo4tw5 жыл бұрын
Martin ScoCan the regular ford gt is much cheaper. the gt 500 is closer to the price the supras are going for
@BMWROYAL5 жыл бұрын
hertzer2000 it cost 10k more lmfao
@Dickotine5 жыл бұрын
Was it though? I don't even think that was a quarter mile and that mustang was gapping that supra. Video effects made it seem like it was close, but I think that mustang was cooking that supra
@Dickotine5 жыл бұрын
@@davej1212 id like to see trap speeds. Those mustangs just have too much more power and great gearing for straight line/highway pulls. Yes with small boltons ons a supra could close the gap on a shitstang, but those shitstangs also take bolton mods very very well also.
@OctaneStreet5 жыл бұрын
Mustang won all around if you ask me 😅 Then again no one asked me... 😔
@colinmcrae75625 жыл бұрын
Which car do you think won?
@snozbaries76525 жыл бұрын
@@klemzale5370 lol the performance parts/software selection is endless for Mustangs. A remap and a couple bolt ons it would do that easy.
@OctaneStreet5 жыл бұрын
@@colinmcrae7562 Hey thanks man! Haha
@OctaneStreet5 жыл бұрын
@@klemzale5370 Oh i'm sure it would! But that's not what we're comparing you know? Don't get me wrong i'm not hating on the Supra it's just that it costs a lot more money for less performance both in a straight line AND on the track. I say on the track as well cuz if his windows were up on his best hot lap it woulda been tied at the least! The Supra probably has more potential but as compared, the GT wins! Especially if they went with the PP2!
@xanwatson67065 жыл бұрын
@Jason Reyes I don't think anyone understood that
@youdoofus3 жыл бұрын
This is by far and away the best episode you guys have ever done!!. the presence of track telemetry and overall experience is perfect!!
@tonystollings53475 жыл бұрын
That mustang held back so much I've watched it drag race before it jumps off the line like an actual drag car
@alvtuning58774 жыл бұрын
It prob was not in drag mode.
@danmyers93724 жыл бұрын
@Scammer Sanchez - It clearly wasn’t in drag mode. You can tell by the soft shifts. If it had been in drag mode it would have laid a set of short 11’s when it shifted from first to second.
@Tewthpaste4 жыл бұрын
*this channel also promote cars too so they have to make it so the Supra is as fast as the mustang.*
@nathanarmitage78664 жыл бұрын
Drag mode ACTIVATE
@jonathanbarrientos91513 жыл бұрын
That's because most if not all mustangs nowadays at the drag strip are modded this one was stock with the pp1 not the faster pp2, also the 2021 supra is faster than both mustang packages stock bc they improved the acceleration on the top end
@robiulahmed5 жыл бұрын
Imagine telling someone 20 years ago that the 2019 Honda civic would beat both the Supra and the V8 Mustang at the track.
@fullbattlerattle24935 жыл бұрын
Arm Head Not the GT 350. Also depends on the track.
@robiulahmed5 жыл бұрын
@@fullbattlerattle2493 The mustang has an engine more than twice as big!
@burgerbandit36465 жыл бұрын
@@robiulahmed Well the GT PP2 beat it by almost 3 seconds but regardless that's pretty impressive. The Type R is nothing to sleep on.
@Fryrice35 жыл бұрын
Put 18s with a nice tire and hondata on that type R then race the pp2 mustang!
@promodelred5 жыл бұрын
Sav Kvd Don’t be a rookie. PP2 has cup tires, so aka not a true street tire. Meaning different class. You can put cup tires on a CTR and shave those 3 seconds
@Magnetorheological5 жыл бұрын
What a great way to start the day! :D
@bigob93595 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way
@jared11875 жыл бұрын
Needed this comment. Thanks for sharing the positivity
@rio90875 жыл бұрын
Magnetorheological its 12midnight here😐 -Asia
@Fitforacting5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Carfans rejoice 🏆
@whalehands4 жыл бұрын
You two make a better product than any other professional car review company. I just enjoy your take on these matters much more.
@rootsmanuva825 жыл бұрын
98.6% Likes to 1.6% dislikes. Throttle House is doing something right.
@R35Jacob5 жыл бұрын
100.2% 🤔 I think u meant to say 1.4% not 1.6%
@peppapigthekiller75395 жыл бұрын
That shot of the mustang at 1:40 really makes me wish I could afford that.
@R3LF135 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a Mustang in 2017 and exterior wise this is the spec I wanted- blue w/ the performance pack wheels is 🔥. 😍 I would go cloth interior and manual trans though. 👍
@Crispy_pata5 жыл бұрын
Lmao same!
@wilsonramirez59565 жыл бұрын
Hard work pays off. Just keep working hard. You will own one day.
@WycliffSlim5 жыл бұрын
I just bought pretty much that exact Mustang! Just with the Premium package and stitched seats and no spoiler. Man, save your pennies and get the basic GT, that engine will make you smile every day. I can't help but laugh a little bit everytime I put the peddle down.
@jayf8st4965 жыл бұрын
@@R3LF13 I got everything you want but mines is Auto. I love my Mustang GT
@TheHotdog1025 жыл бұрын
You could get a mustang GT PP2 for the price of the Supra and beat it in all aspects
@jrobledo35575 жыл бұрын
Aleks I’ve seen fully pp2 mustang gts go for 46k here in California that’s still a few thousand dollars cheaper
@andrewolson54715 жыл бұрын
Either way, you level the price point playing field, and the Supra comes up wanting. It's something that makes this shameless Mustang Fanboy happy.
@F90ronny635 жыл бұрын
@Der König no thats the ugliest thing I've seen Chevy make
@Panchitoisdead7145 жыл бұрын
@@F90ronny63 nah it's still better then a 92 Camaro
@seantaylor26835 жыл бұрын
@James Berk - What's the point in owning a car if you never drive it? 6k miles in 22 years? It's a third gen F-body not a '60's Ferrari
@c-moneycantrell3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the 2 cars y’all get end up being so close in performance yet quite a bit different on paper ,,, Good matchup!
@fikes735 жыл бұрын
What have we learned? The CTR is a performance bargain
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
Haha yup!
@letsroll24635 жыл бұрын
how is it a bargain when even a used one with 20k miles cost more than the sticker price? youll be luck finding one at msrp let alone anything below 40k besides the pp2 mustang will beat it, and would destroy it on the straight by bus lengths, same goes for the supra.
@OrionMcFozzle5 жыл бұрын
@@letsroll2463 Except that they stick around the 37k range almost exclusively, where the hell do you live? Which is at least 10k below both a PP2 Mustang, as well as the Supra, if you can find one even close to MSRP. 10k less, for a car that faster than one of those, and only 2 seconds slower than the other... in a front wheel drive platform. By definition, that is a bargain. And imagine thinking straight line speed matters in the slightest, lmao
@robertofigueroa50115 жыл бұрын
The much faster ss 1le can be had under 40k pretty commonly, CTR is a performance bargain, ss 1le is a better one.
@juanfiallo6915 жыл бұрын
fikes73 what’s a CTR?
@19hundoc475 жыл бұрын
You guys are my favorite on the KZbins. I'm going to come up to Canada and we are going to get some Tim Horton's.
@mikeyfourbarrel84735 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Two cars that I’d love to see in my driveway, both go like hell. I like the Supra more every time I see one! That V8 though 🤤
@mr.bigblock13165 жыл бұрын
Mike Honcho welcome to my channel
@LilPistacho5 жыл бұрын
Yup, specially in person.. :D
@spencerlorrigan4 жыл бұрын
I just have to say, krown was such a relevant, great choice in sponsor, and the ad was perfectly delivered as well. Much appreciated!
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter5 жыл бұрын
You guys went from BMW fanboys to respectable car reviewers within a year.
@acewingdabson31395 жыл бұрын
Warhead Urban Exploration tbh honest throttle house is a BMW og, he introduced me to the V3 Sprint booster on his E46. Nothing wrong with being more influenced in BMW.
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
I've never been a BMW fanboy :) Porsche on the other hand...
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
@Vinny Booboo Ha. Well of course. Its just a bundle of fun :)
@acewingdabson31395 жыл бұрын
James Engelsman Porsche is king 💯
@sac35285 жыл бұрын
@Vinny Booboo Why *do* hairdressers like roadsters so much? I mean, I can't imagine it's terribly good for business if they show up to work looking like Boris Johnson.
@dannyjohnsonsgarage5 жыл бұрын
The supra is a joke. Also, for the money you’d be closer getting a GT350 and really killing that bmw z4 wannabe
@1S1KC0DM4N4 жыл бұрын
Says the dude with a New Edge...
@dynamitekid55214 жыл бұрын
You’re a joke punk
@m-b17984 жыл бұрын
@@dynamitekid5521 why?
@1S1KC0DM4N4 жыл бұрын
@@m-b1798, kid must drive a New Edge
@m-b17984 жыл бұрын
@@1S1KC0DM4N k
@Warrior111175 жыл бұрын
1000 times better car review channel than thestraightpipes
@bca2783 жыл бұрын
I just got a 2018 Mustang GT convertible performance pack one and it is awesome. It has Perelli P zero tires but other than that it’s stock. In drag race mode it chirps up to 6th gear. The moment you hit the throttle your thrown back in your seat. For the price of $28,00 used it’s a bargain.
@MylesKillis5 жыл бұрын
Last time Japan and Germany collaborated things didn't go so well. America also responded pretty loudly last time too.
@ChevyCamaroIsBetter5 жыл бұрын
@@Multihunter95bg too bad they can't respond with a new midengine Lada
@djsonicc5 жыл бұрын
favorite comment so far
@djsonicc5 жыл бұрын
@@Multihunter95bg actually US responded louder...just ask Japan
@MylesKillis5 жыл бұрын
@@Multihunter95bg ?
@MylesKillis5 жыл бұрын
@@Multihunter95bg dont start a war if you dont want casualties. Lets not act like Japan didnt cause millions of people to die by going to war. Hind sight is 20/20. How do you know America knew Japan was gonna surrender months later? Also why would they wait months if they planned on doing it when it literally took them days after the nukes? Why would the US spend the money man power and resources to keep sitting around waiting in the middle of a war for the enemy to maybe surrender?
@rooh58255 жыл бұрын
Often times tires are EVERYTHING. Hence why so many shady manufacturers use racing tires on the ring then try to hide it COUGH*NISSANGTR*COUGH
@djsonicc5 жыл бұрын
This is the review we all wanted to see. Keep in mind that the Supra is realistically in GT350's price range. oh and TH: we need another time attack series.
@fread515 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know
@miked13133 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this again with the ‘21 supra and 47 more horses.
@1LE_Ciko2 жыл бұрын
Stats are the same.. I’m pretty sure the first release had the same amount of power if not really close they just claimed the numbers to be far lower to surprise the consumer and make the vehicle seem more impressive
@JoseLikesCars-ln9qc5 жыл бұрын
I saw the C8 shirt and I had to have it. Keep up the good work guys.
@carguybd5 жыл бұрын
I never envisioned myself owning a Mustang, having grown up on 3 decades of imports, mainly VW/Porsche/Audi (including a modified 911 Turbo), but I’ve got a track-suited Mustang now also. Just for the sound I’d choose it over nearly anything else. Every drive is an uproarious great time. On a fun per dollar basis, it’s right there with a stellar sport bike. I don’t really have any attraction whatsoever to the Supra, especially given how unattractive is the styling.
@klntym4 жыл бұрын
Brian Scott the sound puts a smile on my face every time I go for a drive in mine. Sometime I even let the neighbours sleep.
@dannyfields20654 жыл бұрын
your right, that grill is stone ugly. reminds me of the edsel grill.
@robertn60125 жыл бұрын
Mustang looks good love the sound
@moistydoooood4 жыл бұрын
it looks thick and boxy.
@Eric-Wall4 жыл бұрын
@My name is Steve Rogers its his opinion and if u compare it it sound realy good if u disagree u ubviously havent heard it in real life and when u say mustang i guess u mean the specifik one in the video othervise there is a hell lot of other older mustangs with totalt clean sound and if u wana have a clear sound on the newer ones (they are allready clear and if not and they are a bit fake as u say THEY FCKING SOUND GOOD ANYWAY BETTER THEN THE MOST CARS IN THE WORLD) just change rhe exhaust easy peasy so stop complain about other peapol thaughts just cus u are such a mustang hater everyone isnt
@nicksaquatics12844 жыл бұрын
Supra all the way boisss
@nicksaquatics12844 жыл бұрын
@KZbinIsTheEnemy OfFreedomOfSpeech I'm only 17 so I'm driving my dad's Corvette rn
@nicksaquatics12844 жыл бұрын
@KZbinIsTheEnemy OfFreedomOfSpeech dont got a car yet
@CrystalicDivinty2 жыл бұрын
*The Mustang GT is definitely a Dream Car.*
@ota0245 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Supra, in this case I'd take the Mustang GT.
@TooManyChoices15 жыл бұрын
Unknown Person Lmao 😂
@cmdrdredd5 жыл бұрын
Unknown Person autos are faster. Get over it
@joemomma7075 жыл бұрын
Unknown Person what do you drive?
@joemomma7075 жыл бұрын
Unknown Person lmao!! No offense buddy but that is honestly one of the gayest sports cars out there. lil underpowered 2 seater. But hey, it’s a manual so that makes it manly right? Lol
@joemomma7075 жыл бұрын
Unknown Person It’s currently one of the gayest sports cars out there though. You know that right? 4 banger, 2 seater, little, extremely underpowered. But hey, the manual makes it manly right? Lol You even blew me a kiss to confirm your gayness. Lol. 😜 Got em...
@lynnmckenney19875 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I wanted to see the mustang vs the supra until I saw this in my feed. I've also never clicked a video faster!
@bradwooldidge69795 жыл бұрын
The Mustang GT is a bargain! That’s why I have a brand new 2019! I love it!
@joeaustinathimala768 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the mustang is just too common itself makes the Supra more appealing to some people.
@rosendorendonjr5 жыл бұрын
What’s not to like about a mustang? Love that blue!
@3star2nr5 жыл бұрын
Facts it's such an awesome car
@brenxbux5 жыл бұрын
I dont like ford but you have to admit they have a far superior car... jesus christ i never thought Id say a mustang was better than a supra. Welp im gonna go cry and buy a stang.
@3star2nr5 жыл бұрын
@@brenxbux yeah bro. You have to understand ford Europe has been making badass cars for decades. Ford europe and US Ford were basically seperate companies. In 2011, because of the financial meltdown ford made the decision to basically share engineering. And develop one line of cars that they sell in all markets. When they made that decision a bunch of massive changes happened. They created coyote V8. The build quality, reliability, fuel economy and power massively improved. Any Ford from 2011 and up is actually really really good. Also around the same time Mitsubishi ended the evolution. Alot of the engineers from that project lost their jobs and were rehired by ford performance and GM. Those guys are a big part of why the cars are getting more like the JDM tuner cars and "European" and more performance oriented. Ford also restructured themself as a global company. And made some factories more specialised and that dramatically improved quality.
@3star2nr5 жыл бұрын
@@brenxbux I was a huge import guy but times have changed the America cars from 2011 up are amazing. The performance and value for money is great, but they are actually very well engineered and super easy to work on.
@caseymoore47595 жыл бұрын
even with all the issues I had with my 15 mustang gt I miss it. Such a fun car and loved pretty much everything about it except the garbage mt82 transmission
@nothingbutfaxx5 жыл бұрын
How come this channel hasn’t reach a million subscribers yet?!!
@HughesEnterprises5 жыл бұрын
I have an ‘18 Mustang GT with the PP1 and 10 speed. It’s fast. Great commuter car.
@mykulairon4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people keep wanting to pt basic mustangs against other people's higher models. The Supra is up there almost in the GT500 range
@JacobHall16015 жыл бұрын
Both these cars are fantastic fun but I’m so glad I got a Mustang can’t beat that V8 it’s just golden on long weekend drives, fantastic vid as usual fellaz brilliant work
@ifyoutunnelyourass38213 жыл бұрын
i would take that supra over that mustang any day Mustangs are crap
@sryofcrwsntme95172 жыл бұрын
@@ifyoutunnelyourass3821 bmw is crap good luck better keep your warranty
@wozerbozer40502 жыл бұрын
@@sryofcrwsntme9517 m5 cs says otherwise.
@chabweezy9905 Жыл бұрын
@@wozerbozer4050 can’t corner
@Coyote.five.05 жыл бұрын
you actually nail it with this video, i just to give you guys crap for the presentation of the video and the way you described cars but with this video you went straight to the point and actually nice thoughts in both cars. nothing more nothing less. cool. i guess you prove me wrong. what a twist....
@Armen5675 жыл бұрын
Great review. Both great cars. This channel is blowing up! So proud of you guys.
@lobbyrobby3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2020 gt pp1. 6 speed tho. I only have 500 miles behind the wheel but so far I'm in love.
@ItsMikeArre5 жыл бұрын
I want to see a Ford Mustang 350R VS Toyota Supra M
@mattgomez94305 жыл бұрын
Mike Arredondo there is a race between the 350 and the supra (the supra wins)
@trey12155 жыл бұрын
Matt Gomez yea auto vs stick tho....also add modded vs stock.
@tylercouture2165 жыл бұрын
@@trey1215 auto vs stick does not matter why do people say that you probably also say new autos lose less power to the wheels then manuals
@trey12155 жыл бұрын
Mr. TAMW what the hell are you on about. The autos are faster.....when it comes to the 18s. That’s what I’m sayin....an gt350 is stick so if the driver doesn’t know what he’s doing the Supra will win that’s all I’m sayin....
@Youngster5432105 жыл бұрын
@@tylercouture216 Except it does matter. Theres a reason every high performance auto company puts almost exclusively automatic transmissions in their cars, because they are fucking faster.
@woodworthd25 жыл бұрын
for the price difference and aftermarket support, I'd take the Ford all day....and I like Subaru so that's hard to say. lol
@SilverScarletSpider5 жыл бұрын
Thats a 100% valid choice. As a Mitsubishi fan, I have learned to value car companies that actually build durable engines that can last 3 decades instead of using crappy plastic everywhere that breaks down within 10 years of ownership. These reviewers really got down to the crux of it: the Mustang and Supra are very close with V8 NA to I6 Turbo, American vs German muscle. The Ford just simply cost way less and seats 4. And the Mustang has an optional manual transmission. Makes the inner jdm child within me crushed 😂😔
@xFlared5 жыл бұрын
Can get a slightly used Premium manual GT for 30 grand with 5k miles. Or go buy a marked up 80 grand zupra. Your choice.
@keon57795 жыл бұрын
Supra
@imtheonehero93055 жыл бұрын
Yeah? In 2 years the supra will still hold its value better and will look better too
@KingofKingz82244 жыл бұрын
When you include price, the Supra wouldn't be worth it.
@wanglee214 жыл бұрын
Actually it would. American car's break down before the lease or car payments are done. lol Japanese and German cars usually hold the quality much higher and longer.
@wanglee214 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Spliffilin nuts lol i meant to say European. lol
@wanglee214 жыл бұрын
@Naveed Sekender I agree with BMW engines untouched by other manufactures. If you look at the motor on the outside it may look the same as the BMW but the internal components on BMW motor has been changed to Toyota standards. This is why the two motors make different outputs in power and torque. Toyota will only give it a badge of approval if it meets the Toyota longevity stress testing.
@mimioize16344 жыл бұрын
@@wanglee21 except the supra looks gay
@Ken4JCML4 жыл бұрын
@@mimioize1634 That's your gay opinion
@ShiftersAndLifters5 жыл бұрын
CTR still holding up strong.
@Drako_935504 жыл бұрын
Mustang 5.0 over Supra any day!!
@maxxjettfilms63225 жыл бұрын
Glad you did the comparo auto to auto. I am pleased the mustang offers a legit stick as an option, you know, for extra driving fun.
@ernestoperez88762 жыл бұрын
Dang that 5.0 is fast! 😱
@thedarkness51335 жыл бұрын
Mustang for sure took both. First, with the same tires on the Mustang as the Supra, it would easily shave off a second. Second, he done how many practice laps in the Supra? and 1 in the Mustang?
@CesarHernandez19945 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought, he was already doing laps on the Supra, so he was already used to it
@WhiteGoldSynesthesia5 жыл бұрын
Such a cheeky t-shirt. I love it 🙌
@ForgeWashington4 жыл бұрын
Mustang will always be my favorite i don’t care what car come out
@Itr-tv7kt4 жыл бұрын
go search these guys BabaYaga Racing.. you gonna change your mind real quick lol
@nathanarmitage78664 жыл бұрын
Anything manufactured by ford I adore
@ForgeWashington4 жыл бұрын
A I see more mopar wrecks than anything let’s just stop
@deadmonk5y4 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I fail to see the appeal of the new supra no matter how many times I try. For a car with no back seats it should offer much better performance. Not saying backseats affect performance but if I'm giving them up, then what am I getting in return? A fraction of a second and a slushbox... I think I'll take the mustang, or the civic, or a cayman, or an M3, or a C8. All of those make more sense than the supra.
@VerryJerry904 жыл бұрын
It’s like that scene in fast & furious (2009) The same thing was said “Muscle beats import every time” I don’t agree with it all the time but the callback was jokes
@azteka61034 жыл бұрын
koenigsegg
@VerryJerry904 жыл бұрын
Zayd Mohammad that’s a different car altogether. One is NA 5.0 v8 and the other is a twin turbo 4.4 v8. Shouldn’t be even compared in the same place
@VerryJerry904 жыл бұрын
Zayd Mohammad I only took one difference but I also said it’s a completely different car altogether. I’m well aware of all the difference. The reason I pulled the engine difference is because twin turbos always tend to smoke over naturally aspirated because of initial low end torque
@darknightbegins854 жыл бұрын
M5 true comparison would be gt500
@ryanhill73182 жыл бұрын
Both, very quick cars!! The new Mustangs are fast on the highway! I love Japanese cars but have a soft spot for Mustangs. You guys are kicking butt!
@bumflik4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Love both performance machines. I walk away with more love for how good my type R does on the track capable and able to stand up against these behemoths from looking at your times listed. Type R 1:15.81 - Supra 1:15.06 - Mustang GT PP1 1:15.18.
@jacobl67142 жыл бұрын
What made you pick something front wheel drive though? To each their own, and as far as fwd cars go it seems like you'd need something crazy like a megane 275 or cupra R (neither of which we can get here if i remember correctly) to beat the civic on performance and price and feel. I just would never buy a fwd car if I could get a rwd one instead, so I was curious what made you choose it : p
@roguethrax2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobl6714 Just know, the Civic Type-R is faster than both of those on the track, while having a ton more cargo space, passenger space, and better fuel economy! Not to mention it's a riot to drive with one of the best manual systems on market, and the fantastic front seats. I can roll up to the track with my complete tool set and track tires, quick swap and go. You can't do that with a 'stang or Supra. FWD doesn't matter on the track, it's still a blast. And you're always the underdog because people are "hurdur FWD", until they realize how great the car is regardless.
@davothegreat99902 жыл бұрын
@@roguethrax who cares. On the street the Stang wins all day every day. Love racing Type Rs, so easy to beat! 🤣
@profanecreation19972 жыл бұрын
I own a Mustang. I'd pick the Supra any day of the week for two reasons. I don't see them EVERYWHERE on my drive to work, and they look damn sexy. The only thing keeping me from switching is that there is no manual option in the Supra :-(.
@realitycheck4692 жыл бұрын
Manual Supra coming out for 2023
@tripmelton89924 жыл бұрын
That mustang is awesome but idk what it is but the Supra just looks so much more fun
@senorcactus86685 жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best and you alway cheer me up! Keep up the great work guys!
@jamesengelsman93695 жыл бұрын
Thanks hombre! Stay spikey
@ryang80405 жыл бұрын
So the Supra isn't Japanese and it isn't particularly fast. It isn't particularly cheap and isn't particularly gorgeous... I don't get it.
@0Camus04 жыл бұрын
I traded a beautiful 18 GT PP1 full loaded for the Supra 6 months ago. No regrets, the main thing for me is the weight, the Mustang felt like a boat. Also it was the manual so at least 1 second slower than the A10. Now the Supra tuned with Ecutek and E50 is a 500whp beast for its 3400 lbs, good tires and it's a daily 10 second car. Plues when I got bored of the automatic just switch to my Z4M with the E46 S54 engine to enjoy a high revving NA engine, also a ligth car. No need for a Mustang now. I just miss the sound of that V8.
@Weremoogle5 жыл бұрын
"Win this for Germany, uh- Japan," made me laugh aloud.
@V8Supercar15 жыл бұрын
Definitely a battle the supra should win just because of how much it cost.
@wytewizzard5 жыл бұрын
yea by milliseconds
@tracktimevideos51645 жыл бұрын
On the same tyres the Mustang would be quicker, looks much better and is a fair bit cheaper.
@carlmanu5 жыл бұрын
Track Time Videos aahhhmmm... they were both on the same tires, genius.
@tracktimevideos51645 жыл бұрын
@@carlmanu try again genius 😂. The Supra is on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2s. The Mustang is on Michelin Pilot Sport4s.
@karlmalone115 жыл бұрын
Track Time Videos lol the supra doesn’t come with Cup 2s, they are 4s. Look it up.
@frsguy53474 жыл бұрын
These new cars are so amazing, they are both great platforms for building a great project or just drive stock.
@archipelago932 жыл бұрын
7:18 that’s pretty amazing. The Supra deserves some car chase scenes in movies for sure lol
@revnto7k5 жыл бұрын
I was like hmmm which do I like more... Then you revved the Mustang. You had me at V8! Great watch though!
@johnbettencourt87483 жыл бұрын
Great content guys keep it up I know this was older but still relevant Lovr to see you run z4 vs Supra
@raymondlam84535 жыл бұрын
Can you do a BMW M2 competition vs the Toyota Supra 2020 track test? :D
@Arman-nl6mg5 жыл бұрын
obviously the M2C will be far superior...
@raymondlam84535 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I just want to see more M2 content 8-)
@thienphan135 жыл бұрын
ArmanE46 no it’s not. Check out Jackie dings video and other reviewers 🤣
@Sorry_ImTruthful5 жыл бұрын
Thien Phan @12:41 you can clearly see the lap times for the M2c and it kills that Supra... it all depends on the track! Supra for short and M2c for long.
@thienphan135 жыл бұрын
Sorryimtruthful exactly my point, it’s not “far superior” at all. Yes I see the time stamps, but long track = horsepower, which the Supra needs more of. As far as cornering, it takes a dump on the m2c
@anthonymonroy7211 Жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the Mustang GT, Camaro ZL1, and Challenger R/T this are my 3 dream Sport Cars
@mortenberg28975 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep my Mustang GT (manual of course 👍😘)
@trspratlen5 жыл бұрын
Me too🤣
@pjsneeringer59425 жыл бұрын
how about ANY MANUAL? Auto. is for kids or geezers
@The570Experience5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy losing races
@blknblubkrdude5 жыл бұрын
Yes 570, we buy cars not to have fun, but to win races, mostly because we feel the need to prove ourselves with material items instead of our personality or lifestyle.
@The570Experience5 жыл бұрын
@@blknblubkrdude I'm sorry you have these issues
@MoooseontheLoose5 жыл бұрын
9:09 That shot tho
@eth4no2554 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you made this video!
@rembo1834 жыл бұрын
This Mustang is bigger and heavier but still about just as fast in the hot lap competition! Nice job Ford! Great review guys!! Obviously they’ve just proved that the Mustang is definitely a “PERFORMANCE BARGAIN”!!!!
@michaelstringer18405 жыл бұрын
I work at Toyota and I see these things being a bastard to work on especially when a bmw part fails....
@TheFladian4 жыл бұрын
Do you take it to a Toyota Dealer or a BMW? Crossfire had that same issue with Chrysler and Mercedes
@Carlos.Rivera4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming my worries
@michaelstringer18404 жыл бұрын
@@TheFladian the supra goes to Toyota but professionally speaking I'd take it to bmw.
@Heloom84 жыл бұрын
Then how was Toyota able to add a 5 year warranty with it ?? Like wouldn't it be a loss for them ??
@luh.garcia64135 жыл бұрын
“Win this for German uhhh japan” XD I loved that
@jahimuddin73805 жыл бұрын
The Axis Powers have entered the chat.
@LeJunny5 жыл бұрын
Still debating on getting an M2 Comp or Supra, I love me a 5.0 but weight and tuning capabilities outweigh a loud V8 which is my only desire for American Muscle
@Kocan75 жыл бұрын
All 3 cars weights between 1620-1680kg (mustang is the heaviest) so it isn't that big difference. M2C and supra are cheap to mod to get quite a lot of power, but you would probably get way more power out of that 5.0 with supercharger/turbo, but it would cost a lot. I would probably choose turbocharged miata :) but from those 3, probably mustang, just because of price.
@LeJunny5 жыл бұрын
@@Kocan7 the Supra and M2C are 3-400lbs (150kg) lighter than the Mustang, which is pretty significant. I'm not just going for raw power because I understand a whipple 5.0 would destroy any tuned Supra or M2C with stock internals, what I want is a powerful 10sec car that can also corner and handle well. That's why I rather own a 500hp 3400lbs car than a 700hp 3900lbs car
@Kocan75 жыл бұрын
@@LeJunny I found 1620kg figure, weird, if it is 150kg lighter it's a lot.
@Kona615 жыл бұрын
I had the same choice, liked the Supra more so I bought it.
@ipvelocity18735 жыл бұрын
Id go for the m2 competition , looks good (subjective), has decebt power stock, amazing tuning capabilities and far more practical than the supra
@samuraiwarrior773 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Mustang GT. Believe it or not the 2018 and above Mustang GT has an identical intake as the Corvette ZR-1. Ford did its homework. There is no substitution for American V8 power.Nothing else feels the same. I get up everyday with the same excitement to push the start button and tear up American asphalt.