2020 vs 2021 Giant Talon Lineup! What’s changed?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Updates to video: 1) The 2021 Giant Talon 2 in the U.S. actually comes with a mixed Shimano/microSHIFT 1x9 drivetrain, which uses a 12-46 tooth cassette and a 30 tooth crankset. It also uses Kenda Booster tires which are 2.2 inches wide according to the website, though it may come with MAXXIS tires instead in some cases. 2) The 2021 Giant Talon 1 in the U.S. is also offered with a RockShox Judy with the same 100/80mm of travel, but it is a coil spring rather than an air spring, which will be heavier and less adjustable. 3) The prices of the 2021 Talon bikes in the U.S. have increased: Talon 4: $500 Talon 2: $620 Talon 1: $830

[@jackenoph6422]

I thought its 1x9?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Oh is it? When I looked the drivetrain up it said 1x8 but that may be a mistake since i’m noticing some differences.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Though the chain used (KMC 8.3) is an 8 speed chain as well I believe.

[@Alba0825]

My 2021Talon 2 has microshift 1x9 and Maxxis tires.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Wow I’m not sure why Giant’s website has so many differences then. Thanks for letting me know; I’ll look into it more.

[@kings17court]

It must be really hard doing a video like this, when Giant seems to be all over the place as far as the website information compared to real life. I appreciate your work and effort.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yeah it gets kinda crazy sometimes for sure HAHA. Still making a few mistakes but hopefully it wasn’t too hectic :)

[@kings17court]

@@TalalipopMTB This video was exactly what I was looking for, but Giant makes it hard to know for sure what will be at the bike shop, as far as crankset, tire brand, and tire sizes. I plan on going either today or tomorrow to look at a 2021 Talon 2 small frame 27.5, that the Giant website says they have in stock. Since they do rentals, I am interested to see what I could buy used, or demo, or leftover '20, or some other way to save some money. I like the meatier tires of the '20, so I wish they had kept them for '21. I'd love at least 2.4.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yeah it’s definitely best to go to the store to check since you’ll know 100% for sure what you are getting. Thanks for watching though :) I’m glad I could help a little bit with all that!

[@hikothemonke6433]

Just picked up this bike today, it is amazing 10/10 recommended

[@TalalipopMTB]

Awesome!!

[@RichardNim21]

Talon or Marlin? GAAH. So many choices! Great video!!

[@cavanparsons4593]

You should do the ATX lineup

[@brafshsyt]

I just bought a Giant Talon 2(?) and it has a a lot of stuff that isn’t on here, it has a different color and has an Advent 1x9 clutch drivetrain

[@nervousordo]

7:50 Interesting that the 2020 Talon 2 price was $750 and 2021 Talon 2 price dropped to $575. I just bought a new 2021 Talon 2 the other day and paid $720.

[@aashutoshaj7527]

Should i buy talon 3 2021 as my first bike? Will it be fine for beginners?

[@aromx1209]

Yes I have the bike and I recommend it it's really good

[@aashutoshaj7527]

@@aromx1209 thank you. Am confuse in talon 3 and 2

[@aromx1209]

@@aashutoshaj7527 the talon 3 is just the same as the talon 2 but with some better stuff it depends on your price range

[@aashutoshaj7527]

@@aromx1209 ok thanks. Will for talon 3 then for now

[@aashutoshaj7527]

@@aromx1209 how many gears are there in talon 3? I couldnt find ecactly in net.

[@dylandualsport1462]

Just got my 2021 giant talon!! Cant wait for the snow to melt!

[@100reality2]

I have a 2019 talon 3 here in Australia I have not had one issue with it so far and I have done about 5500km on it.

[@サリン.05]

The talon 2 is my weapon of choice it’s a beast to ride

[@ghostraptor310]

That’s good to hear I’m thinking of getting on this year

[@kateanddaveyd]

I am debating whether to get a giant talon 3 or trek marlin 5 for a bike that can be used as a cross country /hard tail bike which one would you recommend?

[@nguyenhoangk43]

I have the same concerns. Any one can help to give advice?

[@whodafakru7668]

I'm sorry to interrupt in this comment section. But if I were you, I would rather get a Trek XCaliber 7 (2021 mode). It is dropper post ready, tapered headtube, and it's geometry is for XC. It is also an entry level for XC Racing. It's frame is similar with XCaliber 8 and 9. The only difference is the parts like drivetrain and fork

[@HOWTO-nv5fo]

Marlin 7 2021 or talon 1 ??? Please recommend

[@balloontha5865]

M7 2021

[@ronaldd8741]

talon 1

[@dragonnetx]

Both are good brands. I own a 11yrs old Giant Yukon Disc & it’s still working beautifully now. I just bought a 2021 Trek marlin 7 (check out my short simple video) & it’s awesome. 2021 Giant Talon series seems to be less of quality. I personally don’t mind to pay a little bit more for a better build MTB as it could last me longer riding it.

[@balloontha5865]

@@dragonnetx how many months did you waited for your M7..?

[@dragonnetx]

Balloon Tha I preordered it from Trek website. I got it delivered to me in 2 weeks

[@annabellaleigh1235]

Hello - my son had his Giant Talon3 2017 bike stolen and replaced it with a Talon1 2020. Just wondering if there is much difference between the two. He got one with the air suspension. Thanks!

[@albertomoschin7179]

When all brands announces 2021 model do a similar comparison for price point please. Ciao from Italy

[@TalalipopMTB]

I'm thinking about doing some of those!

[@gamerr-ws3yj]

does the talon 3+ also has hydraulic disc brakes ?

[@kiwi7465]

Nice video bro😊

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thanks!

[@davidmulhall.8711]

Great information explaining good 👍

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thanks!

[@randyjanebikingadventure3808]

I like the Talon 2 but out of stock here in our City(Lloydminster Saskatchewan Canada). Thanks for sharing.

[@taniapaz3037]

Hello excuse me! you want to help me? According to your knowledge or experience, which one would you recommend or choose for beginners between a giant heel 2 or a polygon cascade 2?

[@holdenschmitt1145]

does the talon frame have built-in dropper posts? talon 2 if it matters

[@snewberry8669]

I have been hoping to get a 2020 Talon 3; then I see the Talon series has been mostly re-done. Unfortunately it appears they have shuffled lesser quality components to lower the price. I wanted the 2020 Talon because it had a front derailleur & I ride 80% on the road. Since everything has changed, which 2021 Talon would you recommend? My second pick is the Trek Marlin 5, but the closest dealer is almost 2 hours away.

[@makor2817]

When is the 2022 lineup coming up? Do they have a date?

[@aaronwalker2205]

Thanks for the great review. I’ve been trying to get hold of a Talon 1 27.5 but it seems impossible! In the UK I think all are sold out until April 2021! So, is the extra £200 for the Talon 0 (which I may be able to get hold of) worth it, or should I wait for the Talon 1?

[@Raulpaezb]

Im gonna buy a Talon 4 because talon 2 and 1 are out of stock in my city, its a big difference in performance between talon 4 and talon 2?, if its a big difference I can wait to get the talon 2

[@juliochavez9610]

Currently I have the Talon 3 2020, I want to chance for a NEW Talon model, but I am not sure if the 1 or model 0, I know that this model is not for a profesional purpouse but waht will be your recomendation?

[@TalalipopMTB]

I’ve compared both those bikes in my other Giant Talon comparison video so that can help with some specifics :) but I personally like the talon 0 better because of its shimano deore 1x12 drivetrain. The talon 1 is very similar to the 0 but the main difference is that it uses 2 less gears for a 1x10 drivetrain, which is fine but for mountain biking 1x12 is preferred so you have a wider range.

[@stevic7799]

Hey can anyone tell me what is the difference between the Giant Talon 2 and Talon 2 GE models? It doesn't say anything about it on the site

[@rickbomans831]

In the Netherlands the Talon 1 is different. It has Shimano MT200 brakes and a double crankset from praxis with a deore front derailleur.

[@ShahnewazYT]

The Talon 0 does seem to have a different bottom bracket configuration. Are they external threaded?

[@TalalipopMTB]

I'm unfortunately not entirely sure since Giant's website doesn't give any information on them besides that they are all cartridge bottom brackets.

[@jarrahfitzgerald2752]

Max tire clearance?

[@iamcem]

thank you for these videos

[@TalalipopMTB]

No problem!

[@SK-lp7um]

Can you please do a specialized stumpjumper line up

[@TalalipopMTB]

I'm considering that one!

[@fitchhirai4514]

Should I buy the Talon2 2020 or 2021? which is better in terms of quality?

[@davidcurlee6759]

It will be nearly impossible to find 2020 models still in stock. I've already tried.

[@Vt1833]

@talalipop i’m plan to buy a new bike! Trek marlin 7 and fathom 2. Trek marlin 7 650$ and fathom 2 950$ It is worth it to spend 300$ to get the fathom????

[@2901gagandeep]

Been waiting for a video like this.👍👌 Just a question; I'm poor and this is my first bike. The talon 3 2021. If in future I want to upgrade the fork or gears and stuff is it possible? Thnx

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yes you can definitely upgrade them, but the bike does not have a tapered head tube which is needed for very high end forks. But you can definitely upgrade to a better fork for sure and the drivetrain can be swapped out to a better one, but you just may need some extra parts here and there depending on how high level of an upgrade you want to do.

[@matejamitrovic4275]

Talalipop MTB would I need only a narrow wide chainring to go 1by? I’ve got a talon 2 and looking to make the conversion to 1 gear in the front , but I’m not sure if I need new cranks as well. Thanks

[@bboennemann]

Newsflash, the Talon 1 does NOT come with an air fork and NOT with tubeless ready tires! I just came back from a 4 hr trip to buy this bike, just to learn that due to the global supply chain crisis they just don't include those anymore. Giant customer care was less than helpful too.

[@zarakdurrani7584]

It absolutely does come with an air fork. And the Rims do support tubeless ready tires. The OEM maxxis Rekons are not tubeless ready however.

[@elis.5450]

Can you use this bike for jumps?

[@ilovepinas1241]

talon 2 2021 stock hub is compatible for sram 12 speed or 11speed? thank you

[@zarakdurrani7584]

Are the frames on these durable? How do they hold up over time?

[@danjohnson2914]

Very well. I do road cycling, dirt tracks and some mild downhill. I weigh 156kg I've had a talon 2020 for a year and it's a fantastic ride

[@modesalah7607]

Is it better or Fuji Nevada 1.9?

[@dannydman5345]

Hi. You do Giant Escape 1 Disc 2020 vs 2021?

[@dextergutierrez5314]

im 5'7 between 5'8 tall what size is better for me thank you

[@gsdubz9931]

I'm looking for a bike for 65% city streets / 35% trail, would you suggest this? Want something somewhat rugged. Would you suggest this or the Roam? Just concerned that the Talon not be good on pavement. I haven't owned a bike in forever!

[@live4sk812]

They are very solid bikes, but one thing to keep in mind is that all of the headtubes throughout the range of talon models are straight and not tapered, so you wont ever be able to put nicer upgraded forks on the bike. Dont have any idea as to why Giant has done this, but it really limits things

[@_mgiles]

My talon 2 is blue but I wish I had the option for that red orange color when I got it.

[@sxlarx8385]

Love hearing this, must be good happy that I’m getting an red one

[@Maddoxr1]

Do you know if the talon 2 2021 comes with a tapered head tube?

[@TalalipopMTB]

None of the talon models have tapered head tubes.

[@danielwang2138]

2021 talon 2 has 1x in the US, I asked my bike shop and there are videos too Edit: also a lot of talon 1's are coming with coil rockshox

[@brandontolentino6532]

Just picked up a Talon 2 here in the U.S. and mine does have a 1x, awesome bike!

[@TalalipopMTB]

Oh that’s so interesting! I’ll try to look more into that and add an update comment. Thanks for letting me know!

[@knowyourcrypto101]

Is there a difference between talon frame and fathom frame 2021 models? I think they look the same.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yes they have a lot of different measurements. The Fathoms are just more trail bike oriented while the talons are more cross country oriented.

[@briandalton3297]

Night and day

[@wqtransports]

Can you do a video on the Giant Roam lineup? If I’m correct this is the direct competition to the Trek Dual Sport lineup.?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yep that’s correct! I’ll consider that one :)

[@wqtransports]

@@TalalipopMTB ok thank you. Are you aware if specialized has their version of those two same bikes?

[@TalalipopMTB]

@@wqtransports They used to have the Cross Trail, but I believe they got rid of that and now only have the Sirrus, which is similar but does not have a suspension fork.

[@Libertà_sopra_vita]

Just bought my talon 2. Im liking it but wish it had a tapered head tube or at least a giant airshock. Ill be buying one next plus tubeless tires and a DP. Fyi the price is now $650 US

[@jairomelendez-rozales853]

Can you do the norco fluid ht line up next?

[@Monkeyhorror]

how many gears does the talon 2 have?

[@albert-du9hl]

16 in the UK

[@Ultimaniacx4]

Does anyone know if the Talon 2 has clearance for a 2.8 or 3.0 wide tire?

[@ToxicBeast71]

I’m thinking of getting the Talon 2 is that a good choice or should I get a different one as my first bike?

[@SigXman]

I have 2 2021 Talon 1's. One is a 27.5 and other is a 29er. Both very good at what they do. Wheel size is optional to you. The price difference will be the brakes and the forks. Very solid bike. I also have a 2014 Talon 1. Proven and beat on the trails. Very reliable bike for me. If you want a hardtail you can't go wrong with these.if you like general biking and hitting trails get the Talon 1 with hydro brakes. You'll love hydro brakes.

[@ToxicBeast71]

@@SigXman Thank you so much! Im going to get the Talon 1 for sure!

[@briandalton3297]

Go with the talon 2 and with the extra $200 dollars saved from not buying the talon 1 you can put a air fork on the 2 making it alot better than the 1.

[@cammyr4022]

Does the talon 2 2021 27.5 have hydraulic brakes??

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yes, from Tektro.

[@mateusz7020]

what is the weight Talon 1 2021 size L

[@whyyamad]

LBS basically told me the 2021 models are comparable to the lower end model from 2020 and before. For example my 2020 talon 2. Would be about the same as 2021 talon 1. So if you wanted to stay with the similar bike you'd actually be stepping up one level.

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yeah that makes sense! Guess that's why there's a talon 0 now again.

[@robertsuchocki7908]

Can you do comparison of Fuji nevada 2020 vs 2021

[@octogintillion]

I second this!

[@shinobicro]

Can you do giant roam 1 video please, it has air front fork. :)

[@panagiotispantelis2870]

Guys I wanna buy this bike but I don't know is it good??? And what's your opinion about this company is it good?

[@fuzial4659]

What about q and a

[@calli_simp3993]

PLZ DO ATX LINE UP THANK U

[@Seanothannn]

You forgot that some early production Talon 2’s (2021) have the Maxxis Ardent Race tires!

[@briandalton3297]

And 1×9

[@zarakdurrani7584]

Funny. My Talon 4 2021 comes stock with Maxxis Ardent Race

[@Seanothannn]

@@zarakdurrani7584 No... It actually comes stock with maxxis rekons. Early production Talon 2’s gets substituted with Maxxis Ardent Race tires... Go look at the specs of the Talon 2 tires in the Giant Website. Specifically the UK version.

[@justinelaceup7553]

I just got this one🔥

[@TalalipopMTB]

Nice!!

[@mtbuk336]

Hey, I'm glad to see another video from you as always!! I'm an aspiring MTB KZbinr, was wondering if we could collab at some point??

[@marcusparkinson2710]

Does anyone have any mtb tips? I’m getting my bike very soon and want to get some tips before I start riding.

[@Nachsosa]

What do you want to know?

[@toddsamjr7454]

Nice video

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you!

[@laldinsanga6392]

I see difference in frames

[@TalalipopMTB]

Correct!

[@AllanDelosReyes]

Almost get the Talon but instead I went the Giant Yukon Fat Bike.

[@clarenja16]

Appreciate your quality vids :) Please do Scott Scale or GT avalanche next >.....

[@TalalipopMTB]

Thank you! And I’ll definitely consider those :)

[@chadkline4268]

I think it is terrible that Giant doesn't include front/rear/side reflectors.

[@omittch7279]

Will you be reviewing the 2021 giant fathom?

[@TalalipopMTB]

Yes I’ll try to do that one soon!

[@ashkanaref4056]

So they evolved backwards

[@Nathy-vu1by]

Just thought I'd let you know the 2021 talon 1 can also have a 2 x 8 speed drive shaft amazing video though

[@Nathy-vu1by]

Drive train *

[@markcaldwell01]

Can you do a video on the 2021 Norco storm range?

[@matt1267]

my 2021 had no front derailer

[@willfox4048]

tbh if you up a 120mm or 130mm its basically a trail bike

[@Seanothannn]

The bikes basically have been downgraded for the people who are on a tight budget.

[@briandalton3297]

My 2021 talon 2 came with ardent tires and a 1×9 for $575

[@bklyn2va2dc]

Did you negotiate the price?

[@Nachsosa]

Mine with Maxxis Rekon 2.25

[@dopse1]

I think I will get me an Talon 3+

[@gmeapetomoon7453]

Got me a talon 2 29 for 100 bucks today. Just has a flat front tire.

[@thomasduffyjr]

Is it just me or is the Tallon 2 $620 and a one by

[@johnnyhall2080]

Yes that’s true for the bikes sold in the US.I got mine yesterday!

[@farhanferdoush6974]

Specwise, talon 2 is better than marlin 5, both of them ar priced similarly.

[@goodboyringo9716]

I think everyone should wait until 2022 to buy a Giant bike . Giving them some of their own medicine . Giant isn't selling the Talon 0 in the USA, they have down graded components for 2020 -2021 but raised the price on high end bikes that have the better components. Causing buy to step up in price to get your monies worth, but then the cost is to high.

[@Sangram-IND]

Brooooo beautiful ❤️👍

[@davidmulhall.8711]

Top Range Giant '0' Model, and only one colour??? Its okay the blue Ash.. a little bit too Conservative for my liking!! Im sure other's 👍 hope they can sort this out in 2023 for a top of range model in Giant Taloñ. Great bikes 😊 Ď. Irl

[@t1n638]

Talon 2 2021 is europe is like double the price from usa

[@shivomchettri2333]

My name is talalipop❤️👏

[@feliperodriguez2712]

X Caliber 7 o Talon 0?

[@georgiaguardian4696]

Giant’s 2021 lineup is super strong!

[@naroznik4519]

Talon 0 2021= Terrago 2020

[@johnsantos7041]

The 2020 for me is a lot better.

[@lime2575]

first or something

[@whatalife7231]

yooo

[@robsnow2099]

The Marlin series look better and have slightly better groupsets.

[@nguyenhoangk43]

The price is higher as well.

[@pushpendradhami6327]

Its good but in this trek makes best cycle.

[@lightningsauce4494]

Who is the only dislike

[@camhenning27]

First!

[@wilkinsonlee9278]

TALON is just cheap, nothing more than that.