2021 Ford Bronco Sport First Impressions; New Chevrolet Bolt EUV | Talking Cars # 295

[@fuelon]

Another cool thing that GM is doing with Bolts is free home charger install. They will actually pay for an electrician to come and do it for you!

[@markplott4820]

that L2 charger is slow , Better off with a 450v 3-Phase 80 amp.

[@EricMitton]

You say the Bolt's range was "acceptable" when it came out and is a "miss" now. It was remarkable when it came out, and it's currently equal to a Model 3 Standard Range Plus (259 vs 263).

[@normt430]

"When I finally parked it(Bolt) at my home charging station, it had gone 322 miles on a single charge. Not bad for a car rated at 238 miles per charge. Even more impressive was the fact that I didn't really try very hard to get that many miles out of it. I spent plenty of time in traffic, which helped, but there were a few sections that I was moving along at 65-70 mph as well. No matter how you look at it, 322 miles out of a Bolt is pretty impressive." - Ed Hellwig Edmund's

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Yes, I just drive mine like a normal car and never worry about range, and just charged every 12 days in summer and 6 in the winter (I'm not shy about using the heater). The CR staff and everyone else that hasn't actually lived with an EV are still scared about range. And in the mean time they will all have the extra expense of 500 mile range and lug around the that extra weight, and still only drive 30 miles a day. It's crazy thinking really.

[@malikpollock3330]

That moment when you’re on Talking Cars and totally forgot you submitted a question. Thanks guys!

[@rightlanehog3151]

Do yourself a favor and ditch that Hyundai ASAP.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

What do you think you'll do?

[@malikpollock3330]

@@lukerinderknecht2982 for now keep it.

[@timdsd]

I'm curious what Consumer Reports thinks the range for an EV should be these days. Edmunds' February 9th "real world" comparison showed the 2020 Bolt getting 277 miles, while the 2020 Tesla Model Y Performance got 263 miles (the more expensive Model S and Model X had higher ranges). Their testing showed that the EPA rating isn't always indicative of the real world.

[@AnalogueKid2112]

Regarding the range on the Bolt/EUV, there’s nothing else that even comes close at that price point to what gm is offering. It renders the Leaf completely irrelevant. Once Ultium gets going next year, there will be options for people who need to travel further.

[@johnmoore8625]

Can you tell they don’t like the Bolt/ Bolt EUV much? At least sound impartial.

[@joeb4294]

I would love to see an Aptera tested but I expect that there will be plenty of reviews across youtube once they start to be sold.

[@markplott4820]

Apters is not even Rated by NHTSA and has no OFFICAL EPA Range.

[@RateMyCharge]

I have a family members with a 2018 Bolt. I took it in a road trip from the foothills in ca to the Bay Area round trip 300 miles. I was disappointed on the charging infrastructure. So many broken chargers and card readers not working. I was hoping that Chevy would do something similar to Ford and Tesla where you can plug in the vehicle and it automatically charges you. In addition the dc fast charging rate on the new bolts seem slow compared all out of the competition

[@davidmccarthy6061]

The Bolts have an older chemistry but long trips are very doable with planning. Everyone still needs to "join" several of the charging companies because you never know what will be where you're at.

[@Cakebattered]

The new 2022 Bolts will come with free Level 2 home charging installation. To me that's a great compromise, as it makes 3rd party charging use a special occasion event.

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

The all weather tire that works just as well as any all-season tires in three seasons, and works well in the winter is the Michelin CrossClimate 2. It performs even better than the first version CR tested and lasts about 50,000 miles as well. Only downside, you pay a lot for it.

[@hippiebits2071]

While I know they aren't comparable vehicles just looking at that Bronco Sport interior just shows Toyota could easily be adding some functional touches to their truck interiors that would be of little expense and no risk to vehicle reliability. I love my 4Runner but I look at this and just say damn, why can't Toyota include some of this stuff which appears to have actual utility.

[@chrismcfee6785]

I don’t understand the fascination with AWD in SUVs that spend most of there time on the streets. I’d rather just get another set of wheels and winter tires. In a ICE SUV I’d rather take better mpg than have awd for my driving needs and I’m willing to bet for most consumers driving styles. I think its mostly marketing to get people to spend more.

[@MrKozanitis]

You are correct in saying "...for my driving needs..."! Precisely! Not all people or others have the same "needs" as you! Besides, the purchase of a set of wheels, (be it two wheels, or 2x4, or 4x4, powered by gasoline, diesel, LPG, batteries, Or what have you) is primarily an emotional one, not always based on rationale. Needs, wants, desires, dreams (of lifestyles) be they actual or "borrowed" or aspired to, are all together or individually or any combination thereof, taken into consideration when deciding THE car being purchased! BTW, your comment/statement is ambiguous and confusing in one simple orthographic (i.e.spelling) aspect: "...I'd rather take better mpg then have awd..."! Do you mean you first have better mpg (and) then (sequentially) have also awd? Or do you, simply, wanted to say " than"; in which case the first negates the second! Also, people spend their time there! Their vs there! See the spelling difference and, hence how each word changes the meaning? Note: The orthography (correct spelling) makes for clarity of expressing written statements, thoughts, descriptions etc etc. Stay safe!

[@gpaull2]

Where I live, and for my driving needs, I need winter tires AND awd. I’m guessing you don’t live in Northern Canada.

[@reserva120]

what a lazy an silly comment.. makes zero sense..

[@timdsd]

I'm a city boy in southern California and would buy a RWD SUV like a VW ID.4 over one that's AWD. But I see the need for AWD in a large part of the country.

[@chrismcfee6785]

@@gpaull2 I live in southern Ontario. Your case might be different but I do believe there is a large demographic of people that have zero need for it. Manufacturers put alot of marketing towards making people feel like they need it. It's not a magic ingredient that gives you traction on the hwy. Winter tires are the primary ingredient in stopping power. AWD will only get you going forward from a stop. My point wasn't that no one needs it at all but they put a very large emphasis on it today.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Without AWD, it isn't an SUV or Crossover, it's a tall hatchback.

[@davidm5707]

A cursory glance at 2017 Elantra reliability shows in general, that it's very reliable. One review went so far as to say it was better than Honda's. Maybe Malik's been getting a bad brand of coil packs? I'd definitely try another mechanic.

[@malikpollock3330]

It’s tough. All my work has been done at the dealer. I know the mechanics and service writers. The issue happened 6 months apart. I even did preventative maintenance after the fact. I just wonder if this is worth continuing to put money into while still having a car payment.

[@Nycholas1998]

@@malikpollock3330 I had an issue with my steering system with my Hyundai Sonata 2016. Took it to the dealership like 3-4 times and they did all sorts of stuff but couldn’t figure it out. I then took it to a mechanic that was recommended by my friend. And he found the issue in about 10 minutes. I would definitely try a highly rated local shop !!! The dealership usually doesn’t have the best mechanics there.

[@wh2424]

In 8 years: More industry consolidation and a simplified lineup with 50% being electric. Also greatly expanded charging infrastructure.

[@ms-jl6dl]

😂😂😂 No,we'll be riding unicorns fed by soylent green.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robertblaney5033]

Already a couple of recalls out for the Bronco Sport & it’s just been released. Not a good start

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

It's an all new model, and catching the issues early is a good thing.

[@jauffins]

Glad to see GM make some much-needed changes to the Bolt and this new EUV - not sure I'd be so hard on range, given the EUV has a 20% lower MSRP than other more affordable (non-Tesla) options. Smaller than the ID.4, Mach-E, etc, but also much cheaper. Options are a good thing.

[@Modeltrainscarsstereos614]

How can I get that CR sign in the background Jen?

[@rightlanehog3151]

CR, In regard to the Bronco Sport, when was the last time Ford smoothly launched a new product? UPDATE : 4 days after I typed this comment the Bronco Sport was recalled due to suspension failures. Some things never change.

[@Roddy451]

From the getgo, I will point out that I own an AWD car and three FWD cars, driven in the Mid-West. I switch between summer and winter tires. FWD cars with advanced traction control systems perform almost as well as an AWD car, without the complications and additional weight that come with AWD. The Bolt EUV is a crossover, and like some products out there, offers no AWD, like the Nissan Kicks, Kia Soul, and the Toyota C-HR. I know AWD can come in handy but I have driven uphill at parking lots with a FWD 2006 Ford Taurus with winter tires, where a C-RV, a RAV-4, and a 4WD pick-up truck could not. The said Taurus also out brakes my 2012 Ford Fusion AWD, with exactly the same Michelin X-Ice tires, all because the AWD makes the Fusion 500 lbs heavier. Will I buy a Chevrolet Bolt EUV? Yes. No AWD, no problem.

[@chaso4937]

Hey guys, comment on the Chevy Bolt's mid-cycle refresh, and the new Bolt "EUV" I DON'T GET IT!!! Except for a few more inches of rear seat leg room, and a slightly wider and maybe slightly higher body, I don't see a heck of a lot of difference between these two Bolts; so isn't gm wasting their money marketing both??? And while the origonal Bolt's best feature was it's 238 mile range, the farthest range at the lowest price of any electric car sold then, it didn't sell as well as gm hoped, primarily because it was the 2nd ugliest ev car sold, after only the BMW I-3!!! Well, I don't think the new one's much prettier!!!! SORRY!!! CHAS ORVIS, PLAINVILLE, CT.

[@adamnevis7636]

I love the woodwork behind you!

[@markplott4820]

#DeefFaked.

[@clydecas9201]

3 cylinder & 4 cylinder turbo charge I wonder this will go for long term owner ship

[@tsizzle]

Already 2 recalls on the Bronco Sports (1st: rear suspension, 2nd: front lower control arm).

[@mss627]

Those who want to dip their toes in EVs should consider purchasing used. A 2017 Bolt which basically has the same engine and drivetrain goes for well under 20 grand. Used Nissan Leafs can be found for around 5G with relatively low mileage. On snow tire topic. Can I store my offseason tires at your house? My place is kind of cramped :Z.

[@normt430]

Bolts are down to $19K foe the last 6 months or so.

[@Cakebattered]

Part of the cheap price of used Bolts is due to the fact that there has been a Stop-Sell on them for the past 2 months.

[@nickolastiguan]

Just call “all season” tires 3 season tires, to avoid confusion.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

With new models such as the Michelin CrossClimate2, there are actual all season tires becoming available in the US market that the EU market has been enjoying for decades.

[@rayb1613]

Good tire explanation by Ryan

[@JasonEDragon]

The Bolt EUV is not a real attempt at an SUV, so no AWD is needed. GM just wants to sell more Bolts in the next few years so that they gain some experience with EVs now in hopes to discover and iron out any issues before their next EV models. The first few years of sales were pathetic and it was only last year GM decided to push enough to sell a decent number - probably after seeing Tesla's market cap blow past theirs. The Bolt EUV is probably considered a simple plus-up in size variant that they could deliver to boost sales without incurring any significant expenses to alter the manufacturing line. I'm not sure about reliability as I've seen some videos of Bolts with suspension issues as well as a recent battery issue. Instead of AWD more people need to learn to sit their ass home during bad weather. Honestly, just buy a police scanner and listen for all the rollovers, cars into utility poles, and the like when snow falls - even up north where DPWs know how to treat roads in wintertime.

[@normt430]

GM just updated the Bolt as it will last until GM Ultium EV platform arrives.

[@Cakebattered]

The EUV is a rebadged Buick Velite 7 that GM manufactures and sells in China. That's the real refresh, given it's a much more popular firm factor. The 2022 Bolt EV is just a way for GM to create a cheaper price point.

[@alvaroenriquecuelloperez2442]

Hi from Venezuela 🇻🇪

[@pascutia]

The Bronco Sport is fantastic. Drives much better than the Escape. The transmission seems much better calibrated than in the Escape. It feels super solid and I think it’s a good value.

[@pascutia]

Just want to add that I drove one with the 2.0t.

[@buzman1985]

“300 episodes?! I mean look, that’s a lot of episodes” -Jake

[@JDMHaze]

lmaoo

[@apache-yaquibrown4060]

🤣🤣😟😝😭

[@BTC909]

"Some of the affected Bronco Sport vehicles have either loose rear suspension modules or missing bolts, Ford stated in a release. This can cause the off-road-focused crossover to be unstable, increasing the risk of a crash." - Ford

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Outerbanks / Badlands could be perfect for family members who are needing extra vehicles they tend to overuse the ones they have it's a long story they don't have the time or money to dedicate to take care properly, hopefully, things are trying to get there these and they do kind of one in Crimson and one in Blue and maybe the Sport for me in Gray? if I win a Lottery, well I'm a part of a Ford family but once in a while, a shock from a Bolt doesn't hurt either than for your feedback glad I subbed for your channel here.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Yeah I wonder if people conflate "all weather" with "all season" because the names are similar. Perhaps a different name, like multi-condition or multi-weather would have helped? (And honestly the bigger problem is that all seasons is more like 3/4 seasons 😂)

[@vertov76]

What is the deal with the cult of all wheel drive? Buy decent tires...

[@Supernaut2000]

Do any of you guys actually and personally own an EV?

[@jonm3255]

What a zoo.... the track not you guys! Keep up the good work!

[@davidmccarthy6061]

The Bolt EUV is just a small hatchback. Keep in mind that CUV like the Honda h-rv is just a hatchback. CUV, SUV, now EUV are just marketing terms that mean nothing and the manufacturer can apply the terms to whatever they want. Even CR recommends that winter tires are much better than the extra cost of AWD so I don't understand the complaint about that. The new Bolt's are the first EV's arriving that the average Joe can think about affording even without the tax credit. The upcoming larger GM EV's will use the new battery technology and those will have more range. I'd much rather have affordable EV's than a 500 mile range, $50K car that only the rich can afford.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Why not the Sinclair 5 revive that need to be brought back since the Tech has gotten better since the 80s

[@ElroyMcDuff]

Readers' interest? Count me among those interested in the Aptera!

[@toronado455]

Not all buyers can take advantage of the tax incentive, so lowering the price is actually better.

[@kkuldip123]

After listening to your comments about the Bolt EV/EUV, you guys can make more efforts to sound impartial. I would stop short of saying you guys are partial against GM brands, but jeez you guys can definitely do a better job at being impartial. Take a look at 2022 Bolt EV's interior again. Its a totally different design language than the 2021 Bolt EV's. You call that 'nip and tuck'? Really? SMH....

[@spb90]

Ryan, brush your hair.

[@cesartrujillo4190]

How is the bolt considered reliable if they recalled three years worth of the cars to hardware or software limit the battery so it doesn’t catch on fire?

[@normt430]

Only Korean made LG batteries. The Michigan made batteries have not been effected.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Pretty much every brand models have had recalls so it doesn't really effect the stats. In fact, it seems like there are even more recalls than usual of many brands the last two years, including gas car owners told to park outside away from the house due to sudden fire.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Oh, thank you I have been trying to get some questions about the bronco, without being ready to buy who has that right now, always interested in electric vehicles other than with creepy Elon attached to it there are others that have much better ideas too.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

As I see it EV's are not gonna be cheap. Battery replacement, electric bills......While they may appeal to a select market they do not appeal to those in rural areas, colder climates, outdoors types etc. Plus I hear total electric battery's are considered a replacement part and the cost is well the price of a good used vehicle.

[@VIDEOHEREBOB]

I sure hope there are still vehicles with manual transmissions and internal combustion engines in 2029.

[@eweuflesu23]

Why??? Just keep your old ICE auto, if you are so attached.

[@joeb4294]

There will certainly be used vehicles like that. If you're lucky, Mazda will still be making an ICE manual Miata in 2029. The number of options for manuals are already limited today. I hate automatic transmissions, give me a manual or a single-gear EV.

[@1drummer172]

“Ford Escape based”? I believe it’s more correct to say that it shares a platform with the Ford Escape. The two vehicles are very different.

[@chaso4937]

Hi Mike, Ryan and Gabe, GOOD SHOW!!! I've always thought that with Gabe's black hair, slight accent, and deep voice, he'd make a great supervillian in the next Bond movie!!! Are you guys telling me that if I don't want to live with a shuddering, lumpy, bumpy, unbalanced 3 cylinder engine in a $33,000.00 Bronco Sport ( that's a lotta dough for an unrefined motor!! ) I have to pay $3000.00 bucks more for the "good" engine??? And do I still get the lousy 6-way power drivers seat that comes in the base model, when 8-way power seats are pretty much the industry standard??? NO THANKS, GUYS!!! CHAS ORVIS, CR SUBSCRIBER, PLAINVILLE, CT. PS: Hey, Ryan is always talking about BIG JOHN, the CD resident chief mechanic; why can't you put him on the show sometime???

[@nicholasarceri6613]

Three wheelers?? Oh yeah... where’s the Elio???

[@jameswitte5676]

In 8 years: solar powered electric cars. ☀️ 🏎

[@davidmccarthy6061]

That ain't happening. Not enough efficiency for the available surface area. Maybe in 50 years.

[@adrianneicu8564]

Emu at the gates

[@rudyossanchez]

Omg , I didn't know your eyes were so blue .

[@rightlanehog3151]

Scary blue!

[@grantboucher9342]

the guy with the glasses should curb his enthusiasm

[@jeffruebens8355]

The small SUV top sellers, 1 to 3 are the RAV4, Bronco Sport, and Forester. Many Murican buyers will not even test drive the Japanese options, even though the Ridgeline ties the Ranger for the most North Murican made parts (including Canada) and the Bronco Sport is built in Mexico with a turbo that might reduce reliability, especially if the engine oil is not changed often enough.

[@georgeh6856]

Goes Over All Terrain: active lava flow and cliff.

[@asfdafasdfwfrg]

never Buy or if you are not willing to pay for repair bill. thats how dealera makes 80% of profit.

[@fredp8486]

OH DEER

[@kippaseo8027]

Uhh If the guy has a 2017 Hyundai Elantra Unless he has over 60K miles on it it should still be covered under the 5 year 60000 mile warranty. That car is A-bomb and will most likely not outlive its payment book. I would tell him to cut his losses and try and find a used Toyota corolla. Even one that is older and with higher mileage on it will definitely be far more reliable then that crapy Hyundai. It's completely downhill From this point on. Also if he is the original owner of the car and has had the coil pack issue twice already did he should hope it happens one last time because then it will be covered under the lemon law. For somebody that writes for Consumer Reports to make a stupid comment like "you can buy a new car and a can break just as easily" is really stupid especially when hes comparing the existing terd to something that he knows has a far better reliability history

[@kippaseo8027]

Start pushing more electric cars In a country with a failing power grid! Brilliant! I'll bet those people who had no electricity in California this summer which they had a place to plug in their electric piece of krap? They should open a Tesla dealership Right in the heart of Dallas. I'm sure when everything saws out and they get the lights working again theyll sell like hot cakes🥞

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

The electrical grid needs improvements regardless. One cannot fill a gas tank during a power outage as well, so that argument is a logical fallacy.

[@wzDH106]

California didn't have a grid collapse, intentional rolling blackouts? Yes. But let's be real, a 200-300 mile EV will be completely capable in riding out a blackout alongside a 400 mile gasoline vehicle with blacked out gas stations. Unless you personally extract, and refine your own gasoline, you will always be hit by a collapse.... as we're currently witnessing in Texas... refining, natural gas, energy logistics and water... essentially collapsed.

[@markplott4820]

Consumer Reports - the 2022 Chevy Bolt/EUV is just a SAD Compliance car, Chevy will only produce 30,000 EV vehicles.

[@popgoestheweasel95]

Dah🤦‍♂️🤯🙃

[@koreymayo8884]

Uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,and uh... that guy is so annoying!

[@markplott4820]

Consumer Reports - if its GAS, Hybrid/PZEV or FCV it is IRRELEVANT , all that matters is BEV. its a Superior Vehicle afterall.

[@hereigoagain5050]

My 8 year prediction. GM will go through a series of M&A and disappear for all practical purposes but nobody will notice or care.

[@normt430]

GM currently leads the ICE to EV revolution today.

[@merlinwizard1000]

14th

[@gregroyal8470]

Ahhh

[@apache-yaquibrown4060]

ummm