2021

[@jessel.8697]

I'm an owner of a 2020 CVO Limited purchased right around the corner from this video as a matter of fact. I have owned at this point 7 Harleys including the two in my garage right now. Over the weekend I went and sat on a Roadmaster and the first thing that I noticed was how easily it came of the side stand. This immediately told me two things one that the bike is much better balanced and two that the bike has the potential to handle incredibly well as long as the suspension is setup properly. I didnt test ride the bike, but it certainly has me thinking. Thus, the reason that I am here.

[@Ridingfish]

So.. first sorry for the late response! second you have a wonderful bike... Ok, now This bike was great.. I rode the hell out of it when ever I could and it gave all i asked for!! thank you for watching and when your next bike starts to come up.... well test riding an Indian motorcycle needs to be on the list... tell then ride hard and often my friend!! Thank you for watching..

[@ARCSSelfDefense]

I am also a Victory rider. I've been on one since 2012. I'm currently still riding my Vision because, much like you, every bike I've been on make me feel cramped. I'm 6'4" with a 36" inseam and about 235 lbs. My Vision offers more leg room than anything else I've ever found. I'm not looking at the Indian Pursuit and the Indian Roadmaster Limited. I'm torn between the 2...FML. I like the fixed fairing and liquid cooled Pursuit, ..... but I'm also a big fan of the RM 116 sound and feel, as well as the heated and cooled seat which to my understanding is not an option on the Challenger / Pursuit. Do you have any thoughts about which you felt offered better wind and rain protection?

[@Ridingfish]

The Pursuit is a much bigger feeling bike as you will feel more cramped on the RM then the Pursuit.. you can buy the heated and cooled seat for the pursuit also if you wanted.. i did not love that seat if you are going to do 700 ish miles days.. 500 miles did not seem too bad tho!!!

[@bradnelson3267]

Great video. Currently serving overseas and really enjoy taking a break from reality with your videos. Plan on getting a 2020 challenger limited when I get back home this spring.

[@Ridingfish]

I'm on another level to be able and help you take a mental break with bunch of nothing im doing!! Please when you get back and buy a bike tag me in your social media and or send me a picture!! Spring can't come fast enough!! Be safe!! I'll keep putting stuff out there!!!

[@johnotero7726]

Nice review! I'm in between the Roadmaster and Challanger, going for one of them this spring. How did it handle relative to the Challanger, just a bit better or a lot better? Also I like they added the trunk option for the Challanger but 4K?

[@Ridingfish]

So I think that the Challenger handles just as good and maybe alittle better than the RM but they act pretty close to each other..... DUDE 4K I KNOW.. Do you know anyone looking for a kidney??? Haha 😄

[@johnotero7726]

@@Ridingfish Ha Ha! I paid 5K for my first road bike a one year old 83 Harley Superglide...this is a friggin fiberglass box, oh and I meant how much better does the Challanger handle (vs the Roadmaster) I wrote that backwards but you answered my question...I'm one of those dudes in the late 50s but I still like to break the back wheel loose once in a while :) and run the twisties. Thanks!

[@Ridingfish]

@@johnotero7726, now 5k gets you a trunk!! Yea get the Challenger!! Lol I hope to keep breaking it lose for a long time!!

[@pastorjohnculbertson661]

The low center of gravity coupled with Indian"s superior precision steering geometry it bar none the best motorcycle brand on earth.

[@Ridingfish]

It's very impressive if you ask me!!

[@jeffreygrom1330]

I have the RM limited also. I agree with you on the wind coming through the bottom of the faring & top of the lowers. I will be buying a klock works windshield because my wife hates all the wind. Had one on my 02 ultra classic she loved. I have a metal on metal sound when down shifting any issues like that you had? Love the bike so far.

[@Ridingfish]

So the shifting sound seems normal.. for the air i started opening the vents in the lowers it seemed to help the wind.. klock werks and also freedom shields makes good options for the RM!! i have not been on one now for a while but im happy you are enjoying it!!

[@mannyrodrigues2856]

Hey Fish, I got a food chuckle when you said your now thinking about the trunk for your Challenger lol. I still prefer my Challenger tho🤘🤘 thanks for the vid man, hope you and Curtis had a great tour👌

[@Ridingfish]

We really did have a great trip!!.. thank you for joining us and watching!! Yes a trunk is bomb and I really like my Challenger more!!

[@bjornaltmann8184]

Great content, you became a really professional KZbinr, many thanks for that work for us! My only problem with Indian: I like so many models from Indian so that I couldn't decide! :-)....Love my Springfield for 4 years, like the Roadmaster classic and Roadmaster limited and even worse, I also fell in love with the badass Challenger :-).....First World Problems! :-)

[@Ridingfish]

My friend our problems are great!! Thank you for continuing to watch and keep me going!!.. ill try and improve everyday as long as I can have fun!! Let me know what you end up getting.. or all of them??!!

[@edchromey335]

I just purchased the Black Crystal Azure Roadmaster Limited from Bison Thunder. I noticed in your videos that you two had some minor issues with one of the bikes. I decided not to do any motor upgrades this time around. Do you recall what the issues were so I can be on the look out for them? BTW traded my 18 Roadmaster and 20 Chieftain Ltd for this one. Thanks for the great videos.

[@Ridingfish]

First!!!!! Congratulations in the new bike!! Bison is amazing and make sure you take advantage of the no worries promise!! 👍😉 .. Second, the complete stock bike had a ride mode throttle body type issue.. we were told that it could of been fixed easily but we just keep riding it fixed it's self after a day and a half!.. but they also said that the stage 1 upgrade fixes it.. if you want more information than that I can help also!!

[@stevel2543]

Thanks for your great review on the RM limited. Its helped me decide on pulling the trigger. My wife and I came close to buying one in 2015 when they first hit the market. It was the heat off the cat that turned me off and prevented the purchase. No one knew that deleting the cat made a big difference yet. We still ride our C109RT. I’ve been following Indian thru the years and the 2021 limited has all the changes I was hoping for. We visited our local dealer yesterday to get a closer look. The only thing that prevented me from pulling the trigger was the color. I had it in my head I wanted the crimson. They only had the crimson and I loved it, but they showed me a Scout that had the black with blue flake. It really popped. So I left a small deposit for them to have a black one brought down for me to look at from a sister store. You’ve seen them both in the sun. The black and blue flake doesn’t show up well in videos. Just wondering what color was your favorite? Thanks again for all your hard work with Filming and editing your videos. Keep up the great work! Hope Indian gives you some good perks! I’ll bet you’ve help others on the decision making with this series.

[@Ridingfish]

I would say I really really liked the black with blue... as you are right I did not do a good job showing off the colors!! That is on me.. but I figured that showrooms and individual eyes do better then me.. lol 😆 You know what they say about excuses tho!! Hahah... Im appreciate the kind words!! I'll do my best to keep this ship going thank you for watching and when you get the motorcycle that you choose shoot me a message Facebook/Instagram.. I would love to see what you got!! Thanks again!!

[@Rezaroth]

Thank you for the video. May I ask, what is the brand name of that gopro pole you're using? Thanks

[@Ridingfish]

Tylo stick

[@jeffgarver4137]

How's the heat coming off the engine . Do you feel it much on your legs? Does that back cylinder get hot?

[@Ridingfish]

We were in mostly cooler climate, but it was not bad.. the rear cylinder does deactivate when getting warm when at a stop in first or N..

[@Sodiumfreeriding]

I came from an ultra classic to the challenger. Having a trunk is convenient, but I’ve found I can pack more with a sissy bar bag, a back seat bag, and strapping stuff to them. The lowers are a game changer when it’s cold though. Here lately on the challenger I can definitely tell my lower legs get chilly, as chilly as Houston can get. Great video as always bud.

[@Ridingfish]

When I get colder on the Challenger I find myself putting my feet of rear begs.. do you feel like you have more leg space on the Challenger?? I think it was that I could leave my stuff in the trunk.. then the amount of stuff.. PS HOUSTON GETS SO COLD I FEEL FOR YOU!! 😄🤣

[@Sodiumfreeriding]

@@Ridingfish I’m 6’2” and I feel like the challenger was built for me. My Legs don’t go over the tank like they did on the Harley. I can stretch out and put my legs near the shifter and rear brake peg. I did add highway bars and haven’t felt the need to add my highway pegs cause I just rest my feet on the bar. Only complaint I have on the challenger is the ride command and Apple play, mine is no good. Just got my bike back from being in the shop for two days trying to fix it. Ah well, minor complaints but I love the bike

[@Ridingfish]

I don't use apple so I have no idea if mine works!! Haha but the GPS is not the best!! I have had a few small issues but I have loved every mile!! At 6'2 I'm sure you would feel really squished if you were to get back on a harley from the Challenger!!

[@Sodiumfreeriding]

@@Ridingfish over my dead body would I be back in a Harley. 😂 indian for life! Keep up the great videos bud!

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you!! You as well!!

[@JohnJBBoydenIV]

I’ll be coming from my Victory Magnum and buying the Roadmaster; too much gained over the Chieftain/Challenger. I can attest to the feeling of being cramped, but at 5’9 I got over it quick on the test ride. The Magnum was ahead of its time and a blast to ride; but I enjoy the Roadmaster more. Throw in all the extras you get standard with the Roadmaster over the Challenger/Chieftain; even with that powerhouse Challenger engine it’s an easy pick for me, will just have to get the 116 Stage II upgrade.

[@Ridingfish]

Yes for a few bucks more and getting even the truck it really does pay!... Indian needs to do some tour package and get trucks on the Challenger for less than the added 4k... PS.. the magnum is a great bike even now... im sure a bike will come out with the 108 in that set up!!... congratulations on your NEW BIKE!!

[@JohnJBBoydenIV]

@@Ridingfish You’re 100% correct as my Magnum still gets looks, starts convo’s, and performs well. Oh trust I’m sure they’ll throw that 108 in everything once they see the end of years sales for the Challenger; and I feel that they’ll have the future Road Glide Ultra killer built real soon. Even with all that I’m still riding with the 21 Roadmaster... lol

[@Ridingfish]

Hahahaha... well you can save up for a Springfield with the 108 then!! Ahah. Hell yes!! Ride hard my friend!!

[@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA]

Likin the review ! Well done sir !

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you for joining in on the fun!! ...

[@bayouboy8644]

How did it handle ? Not good info on performance , I am a subscriber, but this was really lacking in feed back.

[@Ridingfish]

What kind of handling are you asking about??

[@bayouboy8644]

@@Ridingfish Im looking at the HD Limited, but it feels very heavy, especially at low speeds, and just getting it off the side stand, I saw a comment from an HD rider saying the RM was really light feeling from the side stand . So just wanted your input, I will ride the RM soon, but Im leaning heavily towards the RM already. Was really set to get the Challenger , But I'm over 40 and comfort and handling are number one now, I think the same guy on the side stand comment said, the Challenger had better performance, it should, but he like the way the RM handled, yes very appealing, and maybe just get a smaller second bike, Thank you for your feed back. Always like your videos.

[@Ridingfish]

@@bayouboy8644, well both of the bikes have a very low center of gravity.. I prefer the Challenger.. but if you want a trunk then RM is the way to go.. as the Challenger truck really adds up to the price of the bike! The other thing that would give the RM is the hard lowers that isn't offered at all for the Challenger!!. But as ride and performance goes I do think the Challenger wins!.. lol did that help... ps both are better thenHD

[@bayouboy8644]

@@Ridingfish That helps for sure, I was sizing them up, and getting feed back from someone that has logged a bunch of miles and ridden many of the bikes. It surely helps, and is appreciated, thanks for getting back to me, and best of luck with the channel.

[@MarshalZhukov]

TAB Zombies for the win! LOVE them on my 19 RM. The stock, and stage 1s were woefully inadequate! Just finished a 1500 mile trip. These Tabs weren't too loud with the cruise on at 80 getting 40 mpg. Could hear the stereo great. And a roll on the throttle those Zombies come alive! Wish I'd of done that from the start! Still got the stage 1 slip ons, I can't get rid of :(

[@Ridingfish]

I have enjoyed my Zombies or Tab setup also!!... ps stage one could be wall art??

[@MarshalZhukov]

@@Ridingfish At this point it's looking like it might be haha!

[@KevinShawphcc]

Nice review. So now I need some advice. Current Vision rider with over 130K miles of smiles on 2 of them. Really wanted to love the Challenger, but was not wowed like I expected I would be. Road this same bike and liked it more. Wide was definitely more comfortable on the RM> Can't make up my mind. OBTW, I am in the over 60 crowd, but still ride 10-15 k a year. Thoughts?

[@Ridingfish]

Ok, first i want to say sorry for the late response and there was a few comments that got lost .. ok ok if you liked the Roadmaster easy buy that!!! lol The Challenger and the Roadmaster are both great bikes and when it comes down to it.. well, you sir are the one riding it and damn 10-15k you shouldnt buy the bike you dont love.. so do this take both out for a ride again and buy the one you enjoy the most.. when you do let me know what you went with.. i would to hear what you got and why you choose it!! It would be hard to mess this up.. lol

[@ARCSSelfDefense]

@kevinshawphcc What did you end up settling on after your Vision. I'm still on my Vision and looking at both the Pursuit and the RM Limited. One day I want one the next day I'll flip to the other. Eventually, I'll decide.

[@Ridingfish]

ARCSS, you should ride both the Pursuit and RG.. I personally think the Pursuit us head and shoulders on another level!! 💪 💪 Let me know.. also going from a victory to a HD sometimes they feel WAY TOO SMALL!

[@ARCSSelfDefense]

@@Ridingfish Oh I was talking about the Indian Roadmaster (RM) Limited or the Pursuit. The HD Road Glide (RG) isn't even in the running. It IS small compared to either of the 2 Indians I'm looking at.

[@Ridingfish]

Sorry, not sure why I thought you had "RG" I can see very clear you have RM!! Haha my bad!!

[@clifford4726]

what kind of mileage did you get?

[@Ridingfish]

I would say around 45-50 mpg

[@chrishunter5041]

This side of the pond the Challenger's war bonnet is not lit "it costs extra" I'm surprised the Roadmaster isn't equipped with traction control, Stay Safe.

[@Ridingfish]

I wonder why they would do that??? seems odd.. about the Traction Control im not sure why they dont.. umm

[@briankay3414]

You actually called yourself 5-10 with a 34" inseam and then 6-10 with a 34" inseam... which one is it?

[@Ridingfish]

Oh im 100% 5-10 with 33"/34" inseam!!

[@jimtomstimpson1477]

My 2020 classic Roadmaster war bonnet on the fender is lit.

[@Ridingfish]

Yes!!.. I thought it was a normal thing. 🤔😕 it maybe a 2021 thing!! Idk 🤔🤔

[@jimtomstimpson1477]

@@Ridingfish you are correct. The 2021's are not lit from the factory. Disappointing

[@Ridingfish]

Yes kind of dumb!!

[@jimtomstimpson1477]

@@Ridingfish agreed

[@totobill22]

@@jimtomstimpson1477 Ici également en France sur mon Challenger, le war bonnet est non fonctionnel. J'ai commandé un ensemble led avec les fils .. J'attends de le recevoir pour tenter le branchement sur mon War bonnet qui ne possède rien à l'intérieur, ni led ni fils de branchement! Pour le prix payé, c'est très dommage !

[@sampakpahan6749]

Is this at Indian at Redlands?

[@Ridingfish]

It was yes!!

[@totobill22]

Juste une petite question.. Mon challenger m'a fait un truc bizarre aujourd'hui. Le GPS est resté noir, n'indiquant juste que les tracés en bleu pour la route sinon tout le reste de l'écran restait sombre. J'ai essayé de changer, de passer en plus lumineux, de l'éteindre, de la rallumer, mais rien à faire, il n'allumait que le tracé à suivre, le reste était noir. Puis en arrivant chez moi, quand je suis rentré dans le garage, il s'est allumé en mode nuit, ce qui là, était normal ... Un bug ?

[@Ridingfish]

quand il est passé en mode nuit c'était normal ?? Si tel est le cas, je le retirerais peut-être d'AUTO et choisirais le jour ou la nuit et voir si cela aide ... alors vous pourrez changer la luminosité ... en essayant de déterminer où se trouve le problème exact ... cela pourrait être un bug ... j'espère que non !! tenez moi au courant

[@totobill22]

@@Ridingfish Oui, c'était normal qu'il passe en mode nuit puisque je rentrais dans mon garage mais quand j'étais sur la route, il restait sombre, écran presque noir sauf juste le tracé du parcours qui s'affichait en bleu. J'ai tenté de changer la luminosité, d'enlever le mode Auto mais ça ne changeait rien au niveau du GPS ... Je me suis même arrêté sur le bord de route, j'ai tout éteins puis tout rallumé et rien à faire ça restait noir sauf le tracé de l'itinéraire.Je vous tiendrai au courant de ce qui arrivera mais la moto est pratiquement neuve et c'est la première fois que ça agit ainsi.

[@Ridingfish]

C'est fou ... j'espère que vous réussirez le plus tôt possible et que vous priez c'est facile

[@jameszee7585]

Thank You for the review! I pick mine up this spring. I chose the adaptive headlight and stage one. For the exhaust I picked Rush Racing products true duals with warhorse mufflers. 2.5” baffles.

[@Ridingfish]

You are going to have a blast!! The miles will come easy and the night isn't any issue.. being from Minnesota we have deer and not having good light can add a ton of stress to night rides!! Congratulations!!

[@johnspencer2560]

I LIKE "FrameMount" Fairings. I had an R100RS BMW, in '81. I did the "California 1,000" on that M/C. I've got 50yrs, on Two Wheels. I have TWO Indians, in My FUTURE. (Scout Bobber-Challenger) JS

[@Ridingfish]

Sounds like you have a great future!!! Keep me updated when you get them! Congratulations in advance!!

[@harryhowell5644]

I test rode on in PC demo days. Fun little bike. The infotainment screen shook up and down while I was riding it? Felt small compared to my ultra limited. That was ok. Liked the clutch and overall feel of it.My stereo is better. I'm at stage 2 so it felt sluggish. I. Think these bikes are choked off pretty good from the factory.

[@Ridingfish]

im surprised you didnt think the audio was as good!! As for the infotainment screen..it should not of been shaking at all!! something is up with that bike!! and the tune yea they are pretty held back!

[@harryhowell5644]

@@Ridingfish I did really enjoy the challenger. Very smooth. The roadmaster limited surprised me how good it was. Maybe one in the future we will see.

[@harryhowell5644]

@@Ridingfish that was on the roadmaster, not the challenger

[@Ridingfish]

The REAL winner is us motorcycle lovers!! HD will end up bring the bikes to another level and back and forth... What bike did you like more Challenger or RM?

[@harryhowell5644]

@@Ridingfish I felt more at home on the roadmaster limited. That fairing on the challenger takes getting used to. I liked the ride on the challenger. But the handling of the roadmaster. Felt very light and nimble compared to my ultra limited.

[@roadglide]

Fish. Did you say 6’10 and 34” inseam? Is that you my brother?

[@Ridingfish]

Haha. Yes!! Truth be told I'm 5"10.. I thought I was clear that it was A joke.. but I have had a few ppl question me.. lol 😆 sorry bro!!

[@roadglide]

Ridingfish That is funny my brutha.. I likey! We forgive you. However ..Trust no one!! Protect the 2A!!

[@totobill22]

Bonjour Sur mon Challenger; j'ai commandé tout le système barre led et les fils pour allumer la tête d'indian car chez nous en France, il est livré sans rien dedans, ni rampe led ni fils de branchement ! J'espère trouver quaelque part à côté du phare de quoi brancher ces fils! Il n'y a pas de vidéo sur youtube montrant un branchement du War Bonnet !!!

[@Ridingfish]

Frère Je n'ai aucune idée que je dois croire qu'il y a une prise quelque part car ils utilisent le même faisceau de câbles principal pour tous les modèles, j'en suis presque sûr ...

[@jamestorregrossa3041]

Great unscripted review my friend, a lot of off the cuff information, thank you

[@Ridingfish]

Thank you for watching... I have been told a few times i need to put what I'm going to say beforehand... but so far it is the FEELING that moves my words!! Lol anything I missed let me know as I'll always get back to you!!

[@servicarrider]

Abd I am first.

[@Ridingfish]

Yes you are!!

[@servicarrider]

@@Ridingfish For all the good it does me. Back in the days of the cab overs and bull nosed Chevy, Dodge, Ford, VW, Willy's vans and trucks you were guaranteed to be the first guy at the scene of the accident but that didn't bode well either. Usually the last thing on your mind was either the windshield or the opposing teams grill.

[@djjmplus3]

How was the heat from the engine fish. After 900 mi would you think

[@Ridingfish]

So we rode in cooler weather most of the time.. so my opinion may not be 100% .. but the one warm day It wasn't horrible.. Its not as cool as the Challenger tho I'm sure!.

[@CDLNEPA]

Almost as good as touring on an Indian Scout 60😛

[@Ridingfish]

I mean close like apples and oranges!! Haha

[@andresalaskeno74]

Show the bike, not your face.

[@Ridingfish]

What!!! You didn't like my face!!. Haha I'll take it into consideration next time thank you

[@DavidSmith-fw6uj]

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[@Ridingfish]

I'm studying up on the 2021 harley this week!! We are going to do a live show talking about the 2021 Harleys and some big Indian Motorcycle stuff ... tune in Friday and join us!!

[@DavidSmith-fw6uj]

@@Ridingfish I started following you when you test road the Indian challenger .... I love the Challenger it is amazing👍🏿👍🏿........

[@Ridingfish]

Hell yes the Challenger is!! Thank you for following!!.. appreciate it