2021 Polygon Cascade 4 Mountain Bike 27.5 from BikesOnline

[@IKnewMickey]

Donating a bike is a win win for everyone

[@SonjaTheDork]

The cable routing, straight steerer, and the incorrect size being sent feels a bit strange to me, but them telling you to donate the bike just makes me soooo happy. Small cut in profits, but they told you to do it without hesitation

[@TheCharleseye]

The straight head tube is oversized. You can run a tapered steerer in it with the right headset.

[@SonjaTheDork]

@@TheCharleseye Are you sure it's not just a visual thing? There's a lot of bikes that run a fake taper. Not so much with recent releases, but still.

[@TheCharleseye]

@@SonjaTheDork Not sure what you're asking but I know for a fact you can put an EC44/40 bottom cup on this bike and run a tapered fork.

[@SonjaTheDork]

@@TheCharleseye Ah, nice! There are several bikes where the head tube is shaped to look like a taper but won't even accept a tapered headset because the tube itself is smaller.

[@HighVybeTribe]

@@SonjaTheDork Faper lol

[@judechandler5102]

Well a kevcentral video is the only upside to bring awake at 2.45am in the UK I guess.

[@huskerfan3352]

Rip only 8 here

[@TheFoxio]

I agree Jude ,lol. Been waiting a few hours for this as theres bog all on telly :)

[@zerkerpure0]

So wholesome with the donation Kev, you aren't a shredder like Sam Pilgrim but I really appreciate your entry level reviews getting many new people into the sport!

[@monsterinyourcloset7573]

Hardly anyone shreds like Sam Pilgrim, Kev's reviews are more realistic for people who like having collarbones and don't budget for annual emergency surgery.

[@d_ward4871]

Maybe he caters to a lot of people watching Pilgrim

[@cosmicdrone5270]

This exact bike was a steal at $429 a month ago. I'm looking forward to your re-review of this bike when you receive the medium sized version. I'm always in anticipation of your next video. Thank you Kev!!!

[@huskerfan3352]

The number on the tag is probably the trail rating in how rough of trails it is able to handle

[@EditioCastigata]

Are they standardized, i. e. any governing body? Because I'm seeing rating numbers on wheels and rims (for example, DT Swiss), usually accompanied by the manufacturer's interpretation.

[@huskerfan3352]

No I’m pretty sure each company has their own rating for emails canyon says like number 2 for light xc 3 for xc and harder riding but no drops over 4 feet

[@daveburgess7684]

I bought this bike as a bike path, ride with the kids, guest bike and easy off-road bike trail bike to save miles on my Specialized carbon Enduro. I updated drive train to 1x 11 and love the bike. The only thing holding it back is the forks.

[@tarstarkusz]

I always thought of this channel since you switched to bikes as a general bike channel and not really a "mountain bike" channel. As a mountain bike, I agree with you about 3x drive trains. That I am aware of, there are no 3x pro-grade mountain bikes. They don't make a whole lot of sense on an actual mountain bike. But a bike designed for paved trails, "light trail use" (by which they mean unpaved, but flat and hard packed dirt with maybe some loose thin gravel) and the street, a well made 3x is not a bad set up. The main negative of a 3x is that on cheap bikes, the front derailleur is inequity to the job and the crankset is heavy. You are obviously having an impact on the industry. I don't really want to see the industry move to 1x for their bikes thinking this is what people want on a general use bicycle. Most people buying these bikes are never going on the trails you go on, even as light as those trails appear to be. I have always thought dept store bikes should not have feature creep, but should concentrate on the features it does offer (but fewer of them) are of good quality. Take them from "mountain bike shaped objects" into bikes.

[@Alttabbins]

Its like Christmas in March seeing videos every day. 5 in 5 is the best series yet.

[@michaelmann6685]

I'd buy this just for the frame, beautiful with all white components

[@mihkus]

Frames like that cost like 70-100 bucks new.

[@pdbike43]

@@mihkus zI like that idea...where can you buys these at that price?

[@mudkayak6305]

@@mihkus where?

[@dangarrom]

@@mihkus where

[@Drago0900]

@@mihkus where?

[@kenstirling5348]

Them having you donate this bike makes me want to do business with this company in general when it’s time to get a new bike

[@gabrielmarshall9038]

This is the model of bike that i ride. I did get a size medium frame. It’s been great. A couple hundred miles of trail riding and zero issues. Never has dropped the chain on me.

[@johnyork6955]

Hey Kev. I like the bike. It’s nice. However, I do think we are to the point where the bike shop bikes and the direct to consumer bikes in this price range really need a tapered head set. I completely agree with you when you say Schwinn has set the standard in this regard.

[@TheCharleseye]

This bike has an oversized head tube. Unlike the tapered tubes, This will work with 1 1/8 straight, 1 1/8-1 1/2 tapered, and 1 1/2 straight (Manitou) steerers. Tapered head tubes aren't the only ones that can run tapered steerers.

[@SilveradoOutdoors0205]

Ahhh polygon! One of my favorite brands! I bought a Siskiu D7, and I absolutely love it! Thanks for reviewing that bike, cause I wouldn’t of known about the brand.

[@isaiacswek2363]

And when people ask why bike brands ship youtubers free bikes ... That's why!!!

[@SilveradoOutdoors0205]

@@isaiacswek2363 Amen😂

[@bikesonline258]

Stoked to hear you love the D7 and that Kev's review helped you find out about the bikes!

[@harcormor]

@@bikesonline258 dang and y’all even watch you tubers review them! My siskiu D6 is supposed to be here Thursday! I’m super excited

[@bikesonline258]

@@harcormor Of course! We love seeing our bikes reviewed :) Let us know how your first few rides go!

[@esquared5064]

I live in Indonesia and recently bought this bike here (Polygon is actually an Indonesian brand, not a house brand by bikesonline.com) new from a bike shop fully assembled and tuned for US$250 ... I just couldn't resist it at this price. I'm an old fart and ride easy trails. So, it meets my needs perfectly!

[@matthewsierra314]

Kevcentral, you are killing it with this new series!! Appreciate your work, commitment and insight. Have fun playing with ideas with videos like this!

[@duncantoh7418]

I bought this bike earlier this year and it’s a value for money . I really recommend people to buy this product .

[@masonlittle2563]

Is your front tire off center? Like sitting to the right a bit ?

[@RomansDowntime]

That $499 market is pretty competitive. I would think some people looking to start biking may decide to buy local (if available) due to the support of an experienced mechanic for any issues. Still looks like a decent bike to start with.

[@huskerfan3352]

I would agree I think it is comparable to some more expensive bikes and even exceeding some of them

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

At this point somebody has to be totally oblivious to the actual bike market to consider this bike competitive as a package. Not only is this a complete rip off, but a actual t800 carbon frame thats as high quality as ANY Trek frame is only 220 dollars. 100 bucks buys cheap air forks that actually work. Another 100 bucks buys cheap wheels, and the other 175 gets you a 1×12 cheap groupset that works as well. So you just bought a T800 CARBON HARDTAIL FOR THE SAME PRICE. This is absurd when people keep saying this is a good deal when it isnt. Did i mention the groupset comes with thr crank as well.

[@DauntlessDamian]

@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 You didn't add in Grips, Pedals, Seat, Seat Post, and I guess Brakes and Rotors of that's your fancy. Plus the ability to put all of that together which most beginners surely do not have.

[@dougsscalemodels]

@@DauntlessDamian And cables, bars, stem. spacers, headset, tires, tubes or tubeless, seat clamp, and the fact that all of those prices seem to be rounded down to the hundred.

[@huskerfan3352]

@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 beginners wouldn't be able to put it all together so count on an additional like 300 dollars for labor

[@bonzobanana1]

Insera Sena the Indonesian manufacturer that owns the Polygon and Marin brands is a huge player in the UK market. They supply many bikes to Halfords in the UK who have about 40% of the UK market by volume for bikes. I think they have made many of the Voodoo (licensed brand in the UK), Boardman and Carrera mountain and hybrid bikes. They seem pretty decent and the Calibre Bossnut is a bike sold by Go Outdoors also supplied by Insera Sena. I think Insera Sena are the best bike manufacturer on a quality vs price ratio currently in the world. I'd have no hesitation buying a Polygon bike. That bike doesn't have my choice of entry level components but is at least a real mountain bike, no crappy freewheel etc, everything there is fit for purpose to get you going properly off-road. Personally I'm too old and stupid to have to think about the chainline on a 3x8 drivetrain. If I'm going off-road my brain needs a 1x setup, nice up and down gearing so my mind is focused on the trail.

[@armandutan5901]

Polygon Cascade series is considered upper tier entry level hardtail here in Indonesia. Polygon has an even lower tier entry level line called Monarch. From Cascade, you will be moving up Xtrada series. That should be next on your list to try because Xtradas have been selling like hotcakes lately.

[@ak1920]

I bought this bike for $419 2 months ago from bikes online. I have it fully upgraded now. I really enjoy it

[@eddiedawkinskingofuniverse]

At first glance it is a quality MTB even if it has small imperfections such as the cables left on the outside, it has quality parts but also a pleasant design and color.

[@sube1979]

I have them same bike in L. Changed the front tire to a 27.5x2.5 and the rear to 27.5x2.3 maxxis set up tubeless.

[@fahmi1347]

My cousin got this bike for $350 that’s an absolute steal for a bike that’s trail worthy he’s very happy with it. And I am super excited because I just snagged myself a mongoose dolomite alx so as soon as it comes we’re going shredding

[@Max-ek6nn]

I can tell you what the class 3 means. Its 2 things. 1. Polygon's way of rating bikes. Class 1 is city bikes, class 2 is road bikes, class 3 is gravel and beginner mountian bikes with open dropouts, class 4 is 100mm-140mm through axel mountian bikes. Class 5 is 130-180mm full suspension bikes, and class 6 is DH Bikes. 2. It also means the bike category standard. 1 is smooth paths, 2 is dirth paths, 3 is rough dirt paths, 4 is downhill trails under 25mph and under 1m drops. Class 5 is downhill trails over 25mph and over 1m drops. Hope this helps!

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing

[@freereinvoltaic]

I like the color. It reminds me of the mint green Bianchi uses. Cool paint aside, I would rather have a Schwinn Axum DP.

[@ricoaks7198]

why do you prefer the Axum DP? this seems to have more things and looks nice and ride better out the box

[@nerobro]

I bought a Polygon S7 last summer. I got a small frame, and my chain was also delivered to long. I forgot how many links I removed from it. My bike came with corroded wheel rims, and spoke nipples. They did replace the wheels, but.. it took some time. (I believe it was most of a month before I got wheels that were in good shape.) That said, I did not pay anything for shipping. The website says the bikes are all assembled and setup before they're shipped.... and I suspect that's not the case. If my bike had been assembled and checked like their website stated I wouldn't have had to do two full turns on the RD, set the trims on the FD, or shorten the chain. Really though, any bike I receive that "I" haven't setup, or I haven't watched the tech set it up, is gonna need most of that. So, enough complaining. The bike was shipped excellently. The packaging was great. And they used real foam blocks, and velcro tie straps. You could, reasonably, re-pack the bike exactly as it came. My bike also came with a tool kit, that included all the tools to assemble it, and even a torque wrench! (that impressed me) I am happy with the bike I have. I'd probably buy from them again.

[@jamieh4814]

i bought an xtrada 5 for my daughter and upgraded it to 1x, epixon fork, KS dropper, funn cockpit, and more. killer bike, so happy with the upgrades. i am biased towards polygon as i have been riding a siskiu T7 since February that i love.

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing

[@cowqulater9774]

I have this bike and while i am about as unexperienced as riders get i have not had any problems with it

[@nickam237]

That's awesome bikesonline said to donate it when your done. Commuting by foot at the moment. Can't wait to get a mtb so I can ride! Great review. Good info thanks brother.

[@pdbike43]

Wow...the fact that it comes with a cassette rather than a freewheel and an 8 speed trigger-shifter is a great game-changer. Should be able to convert to a 1x8...say 32T up front, and 40T or 42T in the rear...all set for $100 or less

[@GD-gj6mn]

Helped a friend assemble his Siskiu T7, over all the bike seemed ok. Was however disappointed by the sloppy cable routing. Additionally, the bike did seem in some way kind of flimsy , hard to explain like maybe the tubing walls were thin. I think these bikes are a good value but also may be just that value bikes. As a mechanic I recommend having your local bike shop help with the assembly and keep in mind how little you paid if you decide to really push these bikes.

[@The_RC_Dude]

I would prefer my CO-OP DRT 1.1 to this bike, it retails for $50 more, but with an REI coupon we got it for $500, the same price as this bike (fine, fine, $0.01 more if you want to be REALLY nit picky). The DRT 1.1 (27.5") weighs in at a whole 2 pounds lighter than the Polygon, has a SR Suntor XCM fork with pre load adjustment, it's fine for easier trails. Looking at the drivetrain, it's equipped with a 3x7 Shimano tourney, which to be honest, does a poor job on actual trails. My unit has shifting issues, even after having it adjusted a REI 2 times. Tire-wise, the DRT 1.1 come wrapped with Kenda Kadre tires (stole a line there form you Kev), and Tektro hydraulic disk brakes take care of stopping the bike, paired with 180mm rotors in the front, and 160mm in the back. These brakes do a great job at stopping this bike. I like this bike a lot, in my opinon, the biggest downfall of this bike is the drivetrain (at least on my model). Chain slap is abundant, and before the second adjustment, I was dropping chains after 2-3" jumps! However, I made a simple DIY chain tensioner (lots of tutorials on YT for it) out of the rear reflector that came with the bike, and it helps significantly. I think that the DRT 1.1 offers a little bit better value than the Polygon, but they are both great bikes. Also, you just can't beat the paint finish on the DRT 1.1 IMO, it looks gorgeous in person. The light matte blue with the tiniest bit of purple or white has people telling me how good it looks. Thanks you for the great review Kev!

[@mahiru20ten]

Yep, Entity is Polygon's house brand. In its home country, this bike is priced around $260.

[@happyface96]

That price is a steal in my books.

[@briang2853]

Omg yes! I've been looking forward to this review. Woohoo. Thank you for such great content!

[@benfreedman7901]

Kev I think with this specific headtube you could convert it to tapered with a special bottom cup.I think cane creek makes one

[@TheCharleseye]

It's not even a "special" cup. It's just the right one for the job. Oversized head tubes have been around for a long time. I have a 2007 Haro X7 with an oversized head tube. This tapered head tube stuff is just a more limited version of old tech.

[@tzlrc0]

Decent bike for the price. Semi integrated head tube is adaptable to tapered forks. So it could be a bike to learn on and grow with.

[@happyfuntimepewpew]

nice review. i’d like to see you review the gravity basecamp 27.5 budget bike.

[@kurtmaxwell3203]

I had the gravity base camp before my 2021 giant fathom 29 2. It was a great bike

[@Zaxaphone]

my friend got one of these for $349 on sale (although it was an open box one they sometimes sell at bikesonline) and for a while, they were even down to $289. this bike goes on sale all the time, and it is a great bike for anyone who can deal with some of the downsides.

[@yoelchrisnawan5446]

In here cascade 4 is $300, an entry level aim for commuting and light trail. It get tourney drivetrain. Those hydraulic brakes were new update, previously was tektro mech brakes. And for the awkward cables maybe due to excess cable length. We brake on the wrong side, left for rear and right for front. and for $499 it will get premier 5 which had 9x2 acera/altus drive train and tektro hydraulic brakes, xcm hlo fork 120mm tv.

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing

[@TeamCykelhold]

The class is referring to ASTM classification. Many serious MTB's companies give a classification to inform what the bike is capable at and intended for.

[@tomherron4334]

Great job getting these videos out. I love all the content to watch.

[@mauihowey]

Nice bike, but i was hoping for a D7 full suspension.......still a great video.....again.....thanks Kev

[@rramage_6002]

Got the cascade 3 back in February and im loving it so far!

[@rmj8321]

One of the Best selling cheap bike in my country

[@mountainsnmoore256]

Another nice bike, but the Small frame being sent to someone that they KNOW is going to review the bike on KZbin for thousands of viewers to see...well that makes me wonder how much attention that they actually pay to those kids of details. The cable lengths would also drive me crazy. Other than that, a pretty decent looking bike and a good, solid review. Thanks, looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series.

[@scotteger6271]

I was looking at the Polygon bikes on Bikes Online tonight and saw a good deal on a Premier 5 in my size. Came here to my favorite KZbin bike guru for a potentially positive review of the bike I’m interested in or at least the Polygon brand.

[@KevCentral]

Polygon makes some good bikes, IMO

[@jgmachine]

Well, I see it as $599 right now. And I'll find out soon what I think of it. Hard to find much in the way of an available bike out there right now.

[@Not_Sure_]

Upgrade the rear cassette with a 36T if the XT can handle it, if not maybe adding an extension can help or upgraded the derailleur to a long cage.

[@TheCharleseye]

That straight head tube is oversized. Not sure why you didn't catch that but you can easily run a tapered fork in it.

[@easyaspy]

iirc the "3" tag indicates that it is rated for jumps up to 2 ft in vertical drop, at it's stated maximum system weight, for a minimum number of cycles.

[@TimPaddy]

How quick things change. This is $599 now, but the others are up maybe more. I may get one because it's the only thing I've found in stock. LBS are bare

[@gentacycling8739]

The class 3 is bicycle category by polygon..its on the brochure i got.. where the class 1 is city bike and kids bike and class 6 is dh bikes or slopestyle bikes..

[@MissingLinkMTB]

Ive not gotten to ride a Polygon yet but based on reviews and my own personal opinion of price and value Ive steered a lot of people into looking at them. Very common bike to see around too.

[@chrishorbatt3504]

Same bike I have, but large frame and a 1x11 with shimano deoure derailleur. I'm very happy with it.

[@Guitarman26624]

Hey Kev,I have a Cascade 3 and was wondering what budget fork you would recommend? I do some of the same riding like you do but I don’t know which was to go or even what site to order from..I previously upgraded the crankset and put an oval chainring on it with Wake bars and stem..thank you for the awesome content!

[@The_RC_Dude]

I would love it if YT would notify when me that Kev uploads a video...I have the bell on, what gives? Anyway, what day are we on in the 5 bikes in 5 days? Good work Kev, it must be hard to bang out 1 video everyday for 5 days!

[@EditioCastigata]

Brilliant review, Kev! Had to pause the video to take a closer look at the rims, might want to show that a bit longer. And yeah, tension on that RD cage is inappropriate.

[@guyfawkesuThe1]

Compare to the Nishiki 29" Colorado Dick's Sporting Goods used to sell. It was made by GT!

[@Sandriell]

Great review, Kev. You should start calling out those exposed shifter/break cables too. Its always been such a stupid idea and I wish manufacturers would stop doing it.

[@JimsObsessiveCyclingDisorder]

I was curious about what was in the BO box as I got a D5 last December, which I like a lot. I got it with intent to upgrade to 1x10 and air fork (parts are on hand) rather than the D7, since I like the D5 colors better. Plus I caught the upgrade bug from a certain someone. Keep up the good work!

[@bikesonline258]

Awesome to hear you love the D5! Great platform to upgrade!

[@omarbani3010]

I ride with the 7 speed tourney nad the way I avoid chain drops even through mild technical terrains is by placing the gears up front and back to the largest ring sprocket. it doesn't even slap against the chain stay

[@Kart_18_Racer]

Would it be possible for you to review the 2021 Polygon Siskiu D7? From the looks of it, it seems to be an even better bike for the money and it would be interesting to see what you think of it compared to the 2020 model.

[@travelpagol1130]

Waiting for this Bike for the last 3-4 months but stock are unavailable...😑😑 NW It's priced also increased 😭 So do some specifications, but it will be better with internal cable routing & Acera in the back 👍🏽

[@jpvillarosa9252]

Right now the Cascade 4 2021 model is on sale for $419.00! Contemplating on getting this 2021 model but I already have 5 bikes (not high end) in my stable. Maybe sell 2 then get this one and transform it to a touring/bike packing bike.

[@jalenmoore88]

I bought the 2020 Cascade 4 (the black/red/green colorway) last spring and I broke the frame a few weeks in. Very small drop, maybe I landed at a bit of an awkward angle, but I don't think there's any excuse for the chainstay and seatstay on the right side to completely snap. Luckily the tire just rubbed against the frame and slowed me down immediately and I wasn't going all that fast. Bikesonline was very helpful with the return but I've been skeptical of polygon's lower level bikes since. I moved on to a gt aggressor pro and avoid riding it too hard. I've been riding bmx a lot lately and i think its time to get on a nice mtb. I'm now saving up for something a little more premium, any recommendations for a 27.5 full suspension trail/all mountain bike under $2000? Love the videos, keep up the great work!

[@dogit1840]

Definitely not shipping mistakes. not getting what it says on the box is illegal the manufacturers could face jail for it. my uncle did to years for liquid sweetener when you were supposed to get granule sweetener real sugar

[@tmwei396]

I think Polygon's entire lineup is a great value, you get a lot for the money. However, I tried ordering a Suskiu for my wife. At the time it was on "Pre-Order" with an expected ship date. At the time the expected ship date was acceptable but as that date approached it kept getting pushed back by a week. That went on a couple of times and we she needed a bike so I was forced to cancel the order and got something else for her so unfortunately we weren't able to experience a Polygon for ourselves. I'm also considering a Polygon to replace one of my older bikes but the one I want is out of stock.

[@KevCentral]

Sadly, many brands are having supply and shipping issues atm

[@tmwei396]

@Sleepy Joe I just emailed them and they responded.

[@rahulshahapure4607]

Hi Buddy, hi from India. I was planning to buy Polygon Cascade 2 so just wanted to understand information on a few points. So if you can provide you inputs, that would be great. 1) How do you feel is the gear shift ? 2) How was the performance of suspension on off-roading ? 3) Is the handlebar and saddle stem made of alloy?

[@lawrencesally6189]

For me, if it was a large frame bike it was almost be perfect!!! I would switch out the tires with Serfas Drifter. And it would have to be a 29er!!! Now a lot of people are talking trash about the 3x drivetrain. I for one ROYALLY hate the 1x on road rides, when it comes to trails it is ok, BUT NOT ON THE ROADS!!!! IN FACT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A 3X12 DRIVETRAIN SOON!!!!!!!!! YES, 3X12!!!! I SAID IT!!!!!

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for commenting

[@lawrencesally6189]

Thanks for the reply!!! But I still want to see a 3x12 drivetrain on a mountain bike!!!!

[@jfaust97]

Is that a 44mm headtube? Does the 44mm allow you to run a straight 1 1/8" steerer until you upgrade and then it'll accommodate the tapered 1 1/8" - 1 1/2" standard with just a change of the lower headset? I feel like this is a standard that not many people talk about as being really flexible allowing you to run an older fork if you want or the newer tapered standard. It seems really flexible to me? Thanks for the great review!

[@pellabandgeek]

Kev, Have you looked at the Huffy Marker? Looks like an interesting bike. Full suspension, tapered headset, front disc brake, etc. I'd love to see a review! I'm not sure if walmart carries them, but my local Meijer (regional target type store) has several. I've seen other retailers start carrying this bike as well.

[@TobyFloof]

i was subscribed to you but i didnt ring the bell. i fixed that. i jsut bought this bike and i just remembered i have no idea how to put it together lol. also your box is way nicer than mine lol

[@tarstarkusz]

This bike would be awesome at 349 and maybe even at$ 379, but for $500, I can get a (sized) Cannondale at my LBS with brand name brakes, rims and hubs, at least as of about 6 months ago. Frankly, I think they are not going to be able to sell it in Walmart. Maybe on their website, but not the stores.

[@ROBinJVILLE]

Idk about the components. The schwinns have 1x, tapered headtubes, some have internal routing. And they cheaper

[@JMR7Six]

Currently they have the 2022 version of this on sale. Unfortunately they are out of the Large size and I'm 5'11" which is just above their medium size which tops out at 5'10". Is that one inch really going to make a difference? Looking at the geometry on Bikes Online, most of those differences between the two seem miniscule. Reach and top tube are less than 2cm.

[@pimpinsubaru2087]

I've been waiting for this one

[@williamobrien7926]

I'd like to see a review of the Gravity basecamp v7. Only a 7 speed but looks to have potential.

[@sanadanosa]

Great bike for the price! Too bad they sent you the wrong size. Hope you'll review some of their more expensive bikes like Heist, Premier or Xtrada. Great review as always!

[@derrickdennis7662]

Great review. What do you think about Jamis Trail X - A2?

[@Randy-ry9ss]

You don't see that color of frame at the local trails.

[@dogit1840]

Was watching the live chat something went wrong I can't get to the live chat well Will Porwse is the best solar guy out there for me

[@hamldna]

Some people will say that they'd take this over a new Schwinn just because of where it's bought from and the name on the frame. I think it's a good bike overall but as long as the new model Schwinn's are available that's where my money would go. Price over parts Schwinn atm win hands down for ANYTHING NEW under $500.

[@paullmight42]

i reallly wanted this bike in october of last year but they were sold out for a while...went with a motobecane instead...couldnt be happier with it, especially after seeing this...but i badly wanted this bike

[@cgriggsiv]

Unfortunately they sent you a small instead of the medium But all and all this is a pretty darn good bike And from what I'm looking at it's actually for the price of it anyways that you mentioned it would be on par if not better actually what can I say it's actually a whole lot better than the GT that my cousin just got for 447 or something like that with a straight tube I think it was a 80 mm front suspension and he's already upgraded the pedals and from what I'm seeing this is actually a lot better

[@scottroder5516]

Great video. Nice bike. For those of us on fixed budget, this bike is nice, but it might as well be $1500 because I am topped out at Schwinn level bikes.

[@adtrance7308]

I have ordered Polygon Cascade 2, lets see how it turns out. All other bikes I found are overpriced.

[@Graeleaf]

Hydraulic brakes? Worth the pricing.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

Another awesome video. It seemed like you tried hard to like the bike. For $100 more than an Axum (plus no brick & mortar location if there's problems) I'm not fully convinced.

[@TheCharleseye]

The Polygon 2 is _very_ similar for $400, if that helps you make up your mind.

[@rajatanpacelana]

I bought this bike (XL size) so far so good for daily use yes its need a chain guard. And further the cables are too long. But overall its a good bike for daily rides..

[@theejoeylee]

I have one of those forks. should be illegal to put a pogo stick with no rebound on a bike. First root i hit , I almost got sent airborne! Same trail on my rockshox QUADRA 10 with elastomers is silky smooth

[@jakebransford3155]

looks like it might be able to fit an ec49 or ec44 lower headset cup for a tapered conversion! Great videos as always kev

[@TheCharleseye]

It'll take the EC44. I have a Cascade 2 sitting in the other room and one of the first upgrades it's getting is a new fork/headset. The specs for the head tube are on the website.

[@cgriggsiv]

And he does have to have a small and the tires did come with a 27.5/2.10 3x8

[@rockster1385jh]

Hey that’s the same bike I have Love that thing even with maxxis minions

[@gulfcitynd]

I would have got the premier 5 but still good bikes

[@narcoticmonke2382]

Is it better to get the cascade 2 and add some shimano hydraulics or get the cascade 4

[@sati614]

PLZ suggest This or the Giant atx 2021??? very confused

[@F2SPEEDSTER1]

The crank side chainstay looks like it's a bit bent. Is it natural or it is a "design" thing?

[@david78212]

It would be a good starter bike with an upgrade path to boot. The Walmart bikes are an improvement over previous years, but would be a stretch for someone shorter. I kinda like the color scheme on this bike, most "framesets" are boorish one color schemes.

[@AbdullahAlMamun-di3uc]

Hey thanks for the detailed explanation. I recently bought the bike and I am new to MTB. On the suspension, it says "cross country only". Does it mean that I can only use it for light trail paths? Can I use it in bumpy trails?

[@KevCentral]

It can handle some bumps. I’ve ridden the same suspensions on root filled trails without issue. The key is to not be constantly bottoming out the fork. If you regularly bottom out the travel then you’re exceeding what the fork is designed to handle

[@AbdullahAlMamun-di3uc]

@@KevCentral Thank you for the detailed explanation.