2021 Vs 2022 Beta 300 RR. How BIG are these changes??

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@nacnac3601
@nacnac3601 2 жыл бұрын
Great Larsen!! I'm glad that you continue another year with Beta. Beta are working very well with their bikes. I'm hope more videos with tricks, tips and Beta.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it, definitely loving the bike!
@louisferdinand5776
@louisferdinand5776 2 жыл бұрын
I love how his dog follows him everywhere
@robreed7157
@robreed7157 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I got a 22 re. Run the fmf 2.1 for the spark arrestor. Bike felt a little anemic at first. Im 215 lbs AA and ride at 6000 to 10,000 ft in CO. Went with a N8RG needle, clip 3, 38 pilot, 168 main. Rk tek recommended this needle and it rally woke the bike up. He recommended a 40 pilot and 170 main which made it better for slow stuff but it didn't rev as fast so I went down one. I was pretty surprised how rich his suggestion was, but it works so good. this has been my favorite bike, esp. stock, and I've owned a lot of bikes.
@motoroche
@motoroche 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. You must have read my mind as I have an older 14 300RR that I really really like and was on the fence about keeping or finally upgrading as the newer Beta’s up to 21 weren’t enough difference in my mind to upgrade but it looks like the 22 model is a worthy update. Thanks again and love your video’s.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
It is! Loving the new machine!
@motoroche
@motoroche 2 жыл бұрын
I brought a new 300RR Rich and I love it. So much smoother than my old 14 in many ways (engine and suspension). I am interested to hear what needle and jets you are running though as mine seems very lean. I’m at sea level and it’s winter here in New Zealand so it’s only about 50f.
@AriasFelipe300
@AriasFelipe300 2 жыл бұрын
Huge fan. Just bought the 2022 300 RR model. Previously had the ktm 300 TPI exc 2020. Both are good bikes, but, the beta takes the price. Has more traction, more low end and high and power. Overall great bike super stoked about the decision.
@MericanSlav
@MericanSlav Жыл бұрын
why did u switch from 300 TPI? my biggest grip is that the beta is carbed
@VallartaOffroad
@VallartaOffroad 2 жыл бұрын
Respect for riding with your dog ✌
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
He’s my main man!
@Cyril_Harperink_87
@Cyril_Harperink_87 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the 21' 300 sherco and now I own the 22' 300 Beta race edition and I damn préfère the Beta. The Sherco exhausted me quicker than the Beta. I put the 3rd position on the clutch for a softer pull and it's better. I also put a 13 tooth instead of the original 14 on gear, better for my 90+ kg dry on the bike, that allows me to make most of things on 2nd gear. I must also notice that I save my rear tire more than the Sherco because traction looks to be better as you said. Easier to transfer power to the ground. Haven't tried the previous Beta but I can say the MY 22 is a very good bike. Good Job Beta because I enjoy every single ride and I'm still impressed of the potential of the bike even after almost 50 hours on it. 🤙🏼
@Jamiemx113
@Jamiemx113 2 жыл бұрын
I am riding a Sherco now myself. Can you explain some more differences / improvements the Beta has over the Sherco?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely feeling the same! Loving the Beta!
@Cyril_Harperink_87
@Cyril_Harperink_87 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamiemx113 First and not the less is the clutch. Much softer on the beta. I feel the chassis very stiff on the sherco, and more physical. The both engine are great but the power delivering on the beta is easier to control. I changed the needle for a N0ZJ and I feel it even better. I'm riding pretty low on altitudes, around 300 to 500 meters. The fork is good for me. I didn't need to improve a lot. Just some clics because I was bottoming on some jump of obstacles and double blips. Same on rear, 4 clics on compression. Didn't touched the rebound cause I like my bike to be agile. The riding position is a little bit more natural for me on the beta. A little bit low on the Sherco. I can compare because I ride Sherco at work, and the Beta for training at home.
@Jamiemx113
@Jamiemx113 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cyril_Harperink_87 Thanks for the info! I am riding a 22 sherco 250se but struggling with gearing, did you have any trouble with the bike struggling to pull 2nd gear when you would expect it to? I find myself using 1st gear a lot more than I am used to, currently using 13/51 but have tried 13/52 too.
@BlueThunder69NZ
@BlueThunder69NZ 2 жыл бұрын
Try a 12 tooth front. I’ve got 12/49 on my 2017 suped up beta Xtrainer and it pulls up anything. I just need to remember to clip up to 3rd for long Sandy hill climbs now cos 2nd loses a bit of pep during the run up
@SoSlo2
@SoSlo2 2 жыл бұрын
Proud new owner of a '22 Beta 300 Race here. I can honestly say that your content and candor on the '21 model pushed me in this direction. I came off of a YZ250fx which was an awesome bike in its own respect (especially in the type of terrain we find here in Missouri) but this Beta is just something spectacular. Twelve hours in and I couldn't be happier with my decision. The linear power curve and 'tractor-ability' is literally the best of both worlds. When I run out of talent, this bike says "don't worry bro I got you." In places where my 250fx would have flamed out, the beta doesn't even notice. 10/10 would recommend. Bonus points awarded for an awesome dealer network and a legit warranty. 12/10 final score
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I’m definitely loving the bike currently! Thanks for watching!
@SoSlo2
@SoSlo2 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and producing such great, and most importantly useful, content on your channel. Unrelated but on the topic of the 300. I noticed you immediately removed the head and taillights (mine came with the mismatched RR graphics on the number plate too). With the price difference of $1k between the RX and the RR Race, I wonder if/when they'll add another model to the line similar to the xc from KTM and FX/X from Yamaha. Had it been an option, I would have gone with the Race motor, rear wheel and suspension without all the unnecessary lights, switchgear, trip computer and heavy wiring harness. The extra coin and weight savings would have been nice to offset some of the cost of the extra protection bits.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
For sure I wish they’d make a similar XC version. I take all that stuff off because I’ll end up breaking it. I don’t really need a head light or speedometer. I prefer the wide transmission of the XCW’s and with the RR we also get the 18” rear tire.
@rhouser1280
@rhouser1280 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I was ready to buy a KTM XCW but after talking to a couple Beta owners & watching some of your videos, I’m sold on Betas. Now I just gotta figure out if I want the RR or the Xtrainer 😂! The price plus the seat height (for me) is the thing that really just puts them in the perfect range! Those extra couple inches make all the difference for the riding I do.
@dirtbikesicehockey4788
@dirtbikesicehockey4788 2 жыл бұрын
When KTM went with the hydraulic clutch it was a game changer. Nice to see Beta going in the direction of making the clutch with a light feel.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Diaphragm made a big difference!
@jeffbrownell279
@jeffbrownell279 2 жыл бұрын
Great vidio as ussaul,I have a 21 which I really like except the stiff clutch.Have been thinking about putting in a 22 clutch and will after seeing your review.
@PrimalEnduro
@PrimalEnduro 2 жыл бұрын
Take 2 springs out. butter clutch pull and no slipping even with my 200lb (naked) fat ass on board.
@timothynelson1052
@timothynelson1052 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this guy all ways rides with his dog ! Great place to visit for beta information !
@C3Enduro
@C3Enduro 2 жыл бұрын
Try pulling the spacer. Did that in my XT and it definitely pepped it up. Glad your giving Beta some love!
@thailandmopedadventures611
@thailandmopedadventures611 2 жыл бұрын
I love your Review - as a Newbie it’s important to listen honest insights!
@kiwiadventurer
@kiwiadventurer 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive presentation and going to the core of what most riders want to know, especially if updating.
@Cross-Country-Biker
@Cross-Country-Biker 2 жыл бұрын
Great talk Rich. I enjoy your camera riding.. Gives us an ideally view of Enduro techniques
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
@chestonscout95
@chestonscout95 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! When Beta drops the radiators and make the turning radius better I will be on one again no questions asked! Excited to hear what the silencer does to it. 🤙
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching brotha… but I don’t know Cheston.. I did quite a few turns during our lesson!! 🤣
@chestonscout95
@chestonscout95 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto Touché brother, touché. 🤣
@jakecougle9474
@jakecougle9474 2 жыл бұрын
hey lars im loving my 22 coming off a husky carbs i felt like the bottom end was flat as you described compared to my 18 with a pwk36 i found for my riding style and likes that richening up the pilot to a 40 ( calls for a 38 for my altitude and temp) and adjusting the air screw to about 1.75 gave it a touch more pull off the bottom. I also opted to try the beta factory silence ( think its a dep one) this surprisingly gave me more a hair bottom also. love the vids excited to see some great content on a great looking bike
@woodsrider117
@woodsrider117 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! Excellent feedback!!
@johngarcia206
@johngarcia206 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same between my 19 300 race ed and the 22 300 re. Even compared to my 21 250re the new 300 felt "soft" off the bottom. I swapped the rk tek off my 19 with the new insert and it definitely brought back that snap with all the other improvements beta made. Always appreciate the videos!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Appreciate you watching!
@johncarson2128
@johncarson2128 2 жыл бұрын
rk tek? What is that please? Thanks
@tbank86q
@tbank86q 2 жыл бұрын
What a Great video! I LOVE my 2022 Beta 300 Race, but I also feel like I could use just a little more bang! I have not messed with the jetting or the power valve yet. I am very anxious to mess with these, but I am sooo limited on free time. I have acquired a NECJ needle but maybe ill get some of the other ones, to include the NECW. The bike does run GREAT right out of the box, but I feel like it could use just a little bit of love to get it to its full potential. Excited for your future 2022 Beta vids. And obviously all of your other vids! LOVE THEM!
@jdbus2011
@jdbus2011 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question regarding carburetion on the Beta 300 race edition. Have you experimented with the Smart Carb and if so is it a good thing for drastic ellavation changes. Thanks and keep up the great reviews. JD.
@Bearlydead
@Bearlydead 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my 22 RE 300 at the beginning of this year and at first i was disappointed with the power of the bike compared to other bikes i had ridden before but once i started playing with the power valve and changed springs around its like riding completely different bikes the maps also make the bike perform very different in a good way when i changed the springs out my bike came with a white spring that felt lighter than the red spring but i eventually put the green spring in my bike 3/4's in on the PV adjuster and adjusted the air screw in just a little bit and i have absolutely fallen in love with this bike the more i ride it the more i like it and the more i want to ride it
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in testing some different PV settings
@mimrans41
@mimrans41 Жыл бұрын
great video! there was changes as far as chasis? i mean i want to install 2021 integrated skid plate to 2022 will fit?? thanks your videos are the best
@kylegillett3032
@kylegillett3032 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! 22’ Re 250 for “insti snap” and still lugs better than any injected 300 💩
@Deadlyshu
@Deadlyshu 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! I love my 2019 non race 300. But maybe it’s time for a change!!!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoying the 22!
@garretthorner
@garretthorner 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic for sure. I’m excited to ride the new KTM TBI when it comes out on the XC W bikes for the 2024 model year For now I’m happy with how my sherco 300 rides
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Should be interesting to test.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 2 жыл бұрын
The xcw is the street legal exc in Europe. Rumour is it might keep tpi for emissions reasons. ☹️👎
@WADZUP
@WADZUP 5 ай бұрын
Have you had anytime on the 2021/22 Beta 200rr. Love you hear your insights. I tested the 2020 Beta 200rr and 300rr and wondering how the 200rr is progressing.
@chobitrial
@chobitrial 2 жыл бұрын
great analysis of the Beta thanks
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@turtleinwhalmart8114
@turtleinwhalmart8114 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Rich.
@wowwipeout71
@wowwipeout71 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid and content as per usual,Rich!!! Now, l wonder if you could get your hands on a 22/23 TM300 Fi ES with the new TBI system in comparison to the traditional TPI and your Beta in hard enduro or technical riding? The way l see, by next year we should be seeing all the Euro 2 stroke manufacturers injected 2 strokes unless Sherco and Beta leave it to the last minute.
@martincantwell2557
@martincantwell2557 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to get back some of the low end grunt with an FMF gnarly. A friend of mine said it did wonders to his 2022 bike. Also the forks become extremely plush after the 15hr mark.
@UltraSS-nj8kd
@UltraSS-nj8kd 2 жыл бұрын
So good on the clutch at least. Now for the important QUESTION- what is the 200RR changes & updages?¿?¿?
@fabianmergner1263
@fabianmergner1263 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Larsen, again a verry interesting video! Do you have a basic suspension setting wich you used for the technical terrain on your 2021 modell? Sadly Beta has here no recomendations in the manuals for the racing models :/
@lisimahus
@lisimahus 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear what you think about carburator settings. I also believe the bike does work a lot better when carburated a smidge richer than the previous version. The air screw is an important factor, as when a bit richer the bike is more luggable and brings you up the 2-3 feet extra on an uphill you would otherwise not make. You would lose though on snappyness - another made out dirt bike word :))
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’ve experienced the same thing! Thanks for watching!!
@nandoenriquezt
@nandoenriquezt 2 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt I felt the original gearing 14:48 too long. Changed to 13:48 and love it. Have a few friends with 12:48 for the more technical hard Enduro segments.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll definitely test some different gearing as we move forward. Thanks for watching!
@justincurrie9730
@justincurrie9730 2 жыл бұрын
Good indepth review as always,I am toying with buying one,could you use the bike for a jolly round a mx track has well enduro type ridding
@AntiStressKit
@AntiStressKit 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich, thank you for the update on the 2022 Beta. I have a couple of off-topic quesitons, maybe fitting for a future video? Would you ever consider switching to a 4-stroke? Do you complement your riding with a fitness routine? Thanks
@chrisvozza6530
@chrisvozza6530 2 жыл бұрын
I like beta. I plan on owning one soon
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll always have one in my garage!
@TimPaddy
@TimPaddy 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you make that steep sidehill log hop look so easy? Wowzer, that's a turnaround for me, lol
@sorindobria2315
@sorindobria2315 8 ай бұрын
I've got 150 hours on beta 300 2022 racing model, still no problem with clutch!
@powerwagon3731
@powerwagon3731 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 61 , 5’7” 170 lb intermediate rider and I love my 22 non race 300. I have a lowering link, Topar disc gaurds, Bark Busters with threaded inserts and the special bar clamp mount, FMF turbo core exhaust, extra long skid plate by? I want to get the new seat foam from? The oil injection has been working great and it starts very easy. My 33 year old son( very experienced) rides a 2016 300 Race and is extremely happy with it. When did they start the counter balanced engine?
@BlueThunder69NZ
@BlueThunder69NZ 2 жыл бұрын
Think the counterbalancer was on the 2020 models. Can’t quite remember. Im on a 2017 and love getting all buzzed up
@shawnsonia1
@shawnsonia1 2 жыл бұрын
Rich Larsen. Love you videos here and on IG. I have a 22' Beta and the downloaded manual (i.e., didn't plug in the thumb drive). The manual says 72 x 72 🤔
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Weird. That’s incorrect. It’s 73x69.9
@dicmow
@dicmow 2 жыл бұрын
Making me jealous, still on a 2017 300 RR. Some day... Maybe lol
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very lucky!
@kameronleitzel8109
@kameronleitzel8109 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 21 race edition and anyone who's thinks it's to snappy get a smart carb it make the power more linear
@sorindobria2315
@sorindobria2315 8 ай бұрын
Big difference between 2022 and 2023 racing model? Thanks
@bradaltergott2786
@bradaltergott2786 Жыл бұрын
The 23 is A lot Better with the KYB rear shock and the Fork to me feels Re Valved. My 21 was good after custom re valve Fr and Rear but the 23 is killer right out of the box in all aspects
@donniemcfarland3160
@donniemcfarland3160 Жыл бұрын
I love my beta!
@mmmx5109
@mmmx5109 2 жыл бұрын
Go Beta! Save the two strokes!
@LuddMoto
@LuddMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Would you think the new Beta is good as a supermoto?
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 2 жыл бұрын
The turning radius on my 21 is SO bad! Moved from a 2018 to a 21 and wish I had the old bike back. The new one has a higher seat (not good) and can’t turn. Bugs me every time I ride it and load it. Most likely Switching to husky next year.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
So I switched from a Gas Gas(ktm) to Beta. The turning radius definitely took a bit of getting used to. Once I adapted, added bolts to the steering stops, and made it so the forks touch the radiators at each full lock, I became much more comfortable. Truthfully with proper form I can still out turn most riders no matter the brand.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto No doubt. I’ve adapted and also adjusted the steering stops. But it’s surprising how often it’s an issue just moving bikes around in the garage, etc. and I occasionally still get tripped up going down tight switchbacks. Disappointing move from a manufacture with a heavy trials background. Also, the grab handles were much better on the previous 300 chassis.
@Levi-nn8si
@Levi-nn8si 2 жыл бұрын
How much do you weigh? I'm asking because the suspension on the demo's felt really stiff to me. But if it feels better after the break in all will be ok
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
180LB
@i_dodge_trees
@i_dodge_trees Жыл бұрын
Keeping the 72x72 as the 300 and selling the new oversquare engine as a 290 might have been a better idea.
@renogsx
@renogsx 2 жыл бұрын
Sick
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fatkidenduro1555
@fatkidenduro1555 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Beta RR and live in Utah. Do you keep the same jetting for low and high altitude or what do you do for say Utah County then high mountain like AF Canyon?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. 👍
@enduroserb1985
@enduroserb1985 2 жыл бұрын
how much fuel it consumes, normal driving.?
@nagaduaharimau
@nagaduaharimau 2 жыл бұрын
I've been riding a 2021 300 RE since last year. I thought it might be my last gas powered bike before going electric. Now I'm unsure.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll see
@jasonbaugh6904
@jasonbaugh6904 2 жыл бұрын
How’s the turning radius?
@SoSlo2
@SoSlo2 2 жыл бұрын
It's legitimately my only complaint with this bike... Well that and I'd prefer to have a KYB rear but the sachs is fine for my skill level.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Same.. not good! 😂
@reedneff9499
@reedneff9499 2 жыл бұрын
Does your 22 beta make a knocking noise at low rpm under load? I have a 22 and mine has done it since brand new. Other than that I love the bike.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they all sound similar.
@reedneff9499
@reedneff9499 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto sweet, thanks for the reply!
@OneSon744
@OneSon744 2 жыл бұрын
Betas are sic !
@robsonenduro3316
@robsonenduro3316 2 жыл бұрын
strange, why fix what's not broken and works well...we will see but all new engine? I'd be nervous too, give it a year ot too. I stick to sherco for now.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
They change them to move the needle forward. Progress the sport, push the envelope of engineering. At one point the 1960s Honda CZ 250 was considered the best. We’ve come a long ways because of fixing what’s not broken.
@robsonenduro3316
@robsonenduro3316 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto true, but you can be sure to have some issues in first year or two. KTM TPI problems showed this nicely.
@andrewsoldan6050
@andrewsoldan6050 2 жыл бұрын
these days so call progress means usually only complying with stupid emission norms and reliability is often compromised.
@davidjennings127
@davidjennings127 2 жыл бұрын
But does it have a hydraulic clutch.🤔
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@keanu6355
@keanu6355 2 жыл бұрын
New vid letsss goo
@IRCTireUSAMoto
@IRCTireUSAMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hellamps
@hellamps 2 жыл бұрын
Where is TPI!
@curtolund5921
@curtolund5921 Жыл бұрын
Like
@curtolund5921
@curtolund5921 Жыл бұрын
I like the clutch on my 2021 beta 300 rr
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 2 жыл бұрын
Changing the engine completely after 1 year is code for the engine was shit and had to be remade . wasn't beta bought out by KTM ?
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