2021 WILSON SIX ONE 95 18x20 PRO STOCK? TENNIS RACKET

[@chrisc2439]

it's weird how whenever you 'just got off the court', suddenly the sky turns from night to day :-)

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

Yeah, "right now" means different things to different people.😄

[@jmasked5082]

to be fair, in general terms the ingredients in a gloss finish are more durable than matte paint, and that durability usually means more stiffness in that paint. It isn't crazy to consider that perhaps gloss finishes would add to the overall rigidity of the racquet. It may be minor, but it could definitely be a thing and would be worth testing.

[@rossterry8103]

Matte finishes are less flexible due to the additive, usually silica or talc, and generally a bit thicker too.

[@HonkyMonky]

the gloss finish is very poor on this raquet, you can easyly make a mark on the frame juste by hiting a ball with it

[@user-zn4pi2qq5u]

I saw this video and went out and bought one because I liked the old one I bought in 1995. My old 6.1 18x16 string pattern is a plow through beast. This new beast with the 18x20 string pattern still has great plow through, stability, and power. The denser string pattern, however, tames the beast a bit and gives the racquet more control and predictability over the old "Edberg" version which is a welcome improvement. This racquet is definitely superior to the Pro Staff 97 and the RF 97. While its specs are nearly identical to the RF 97, it doesn't feel as heavy or cumbersome as the RF 97.

[@cavaleermountaineer3839]

Thanks for that review.

[@roveism]

I had the old six one 90, the old one had the smallest sweet spot, but once dialed in, it was the sweetest racquet ever. Played with my friend's this new six one 95 and immediately fell in love, it feels like home.

[@chuckfriebe843]

The finish of the racquet has no bearing on the feel of the racquet. The gloss finish is for two things: It looks good on TV and It distinguishes it from the retail version. Another thing, the stiffness of the frame is mostly reliant upon how the graphite is "laid-up" in the frame. You often hear the term "lay-up" in the forums if your speaking with someone that's a stringer or in the industry. So, thinner beam doesn't necessarily mean the racquet flexes more and a wider beam doesn't always indication of a stiffer frame (think Wilson Clash). So, when they change the direction of the graphite fibers in certain areas of the frame, this can increase or decrease flex in that area of the frame. Also, notice that the balance point while strung is very low. This indicates that most of the weight of the racquet is below the balance point, which is kind of obvious, but some believe that to make the swing weight increase, that the majority of the weight needs to be in the head of the frame. Not true.

[@edhwang2069]

Even Federer himself has said the velvet finish on the RF97 changes the feel of the racquet. It's on KZbin somewhere done in German. And you can't argue with the Fed lol.

[@HaiNguyen-cr1fu]

​@@edhwang2069I have Federer's personal racquet BLX paintjob used at the Australian Open, the paint on it is glossy, the retail one is matte finish, writing in the throat is on the opposite side with the retail version Even when you match the weight and balance, the feel is totally different, not sure whether if it's the paint or not. 🤷

[@tz1843]

The (original) Classic 6.1 Pro Staff has an RA of 72, which is much, much more stiffer than this new racket . . . and I don't think the RA being 61 has anything to do with the revamp of this new 6.1 . . it's just a coincidence because. the Pro Staff's of 5.0, 5.5, 6.0, 4.2, 6.5, 6.1 and 7.5 are the projected advertisement of the "swing level" of the racket , not the "stiffness". Has everybody forgot how the older Pro Staff line even works?

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

Indeed, the Wilson stiffness rating is goes from stiffer (e.g. 3.9si) to flexier (e.g. 7.5si). 6.1 has nothing to do with 61 RA. The same way 3.9si does not mean 39RA.

[@tz1843]

@@tenniscounterspin1431 No . . . again you are relating the numerical value (3.9 and 7.5) to "Stiffness" and not "Swing index" i don't want to type this all at again, so here is a copy/paste of how it works: "Swing Index" Actually . . . Originally "SI" standed for "Swing Index" and there was a picture of a little guy swinging a racquet sometimes on the side of the racquet throat. . . . . the is the reason why the Wilson 4.2 (SI) Prostaff had more power and required less of a hard swing than the Prostaff 6.0 (SI) . . . Now, what's screwing this all up is that there was a video also of the Wilson Graphite Aggressor, and it did say it had an 8.5 SI . . but it was spelled out as it being a "Stiffness Index" . . . which is just confusing the entire public . . . .even if you Google the SI gets conflicting responses . . .but at least you have even Tennis Warehouse conveying that SI stands for "Swing Index". Another reason why it can't be Stiffness Index is because that the Graphite Aggressor was an 8.5 on the Stiffness Index but it's a Graphite -Composite and is way softer than the Wilson 6.1 that is Graphite-Kevlar an much, much stiffer than the Graphite Aggressor . . . but the Graphite Aggressor has less power than the Wilson 6.1 making it higher on the "Swing Index" . . . . . Basically the (SI Swing Index) is telling you how "powerful" the racquet is . . . . the best example would be why the old Wilson Profile 2.7 is way, way , way more powerful than the 6.0 or 6.1 or basically anything else in the Wilson line . . . . and it's stiffer than anything else as well . . . . but that wouldn't make any sense if 2.7 was it's Stifness Index. . . . think about it. Sorry for the rambling, but I really hate that everybody is getting this wrong.

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

@@tz1843 Wilson Labs calls it Stiffness Index (SI) and shows a diagram with the Clash having an SI of 11.2 (the most flexible), and Babolat Pure Drive and Wilson Ultra about the same at around 5.0. Search it.

[@tz1843]

@@tenniscounterspin1431 That may apply to the newer rackets, but the older rackets from 1980 - 2010 or so . . it does not. Just consider the famous Pete Sampras 6.0 Pro Staff . . . . . . the 6.0 part does not mean "Stiffness" . . . . Google it . . .

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

@@tz1843 Nope. Since late 80's Wilson has used Stiffness Index. They provide the whole history on their website. They used a 6.2lb weight on the tip of the racket and measured the deflection in mm. That was the si.

[@champyhalim8882]

Correction, Tennis Point US store, formerly, Midwest, has this at the store. I got one from them

[@jamescollieson4726]

Any update on the actual RA. I can’t believe it’s 61.

[@dragonite6497]

I wish the 6.1 came back, just no more pro staff 97’s give me the 95’s and 90’s again

[@vonbraun8051]

You would be surprised how many tour guys play 95's with "97" or larger decals on their frames. I agree with you!

[@atilayyerkal]

@@vonbraun8051 yeah like almost all of pro staff “endorsers” except dimitrov and RF obviously

[@ommpaloomplak53]

@@atilayyerkal dimitrov does too

[@chilasacksilva4010]

Just ordered one. Thanks for the review!!

[@Crispy99999]

thoughts or feedback on your purchase? What racquet were you using before?

[@jamescollieson4726]

Is it soft?

[@BullyGarfield.]

I swear in the next video Chris will switch to this one!! 😂😂

[@whuang03]

is better than the Dunlop

[@BullyGarfield.]

@Rayden Dillon lol u guys joined 3 weeks ago so u guys are bots lol

[@mayw33d]

You said you saw the 16x18 (and not 16x19) on Wilson's website too? It seems they're only selling the 18x20

[@bonucleus]

There is the Ultra Pro 18 x 20 sold at Wilson Labs

[@fosho8214]

How does coach chris keep a staright face when this guy is saying the glossy paint gives it better feel? lol

[@vonbraun8051]

I know it sounds crazy, but believe it or not, many ATP tour guys will make the same complaint about the paint being changed and how it can effect on the way the "new" model feels. I've strung for some ATP guys and when their rackets get a new paint job it can get a little dicey on how they react to it. ( I really doubt if an ordinary good rec player could tell any difference, though, if there was a way to do a blind test.) You may also notice that most of the men have glossy paint on their Wilson rackets even though the retail versions are flat.

[@RobsTennisVids]

Glossy feels stiffer. Not measurable, but many guys swear to it. The real question is how Wilson keeps a straight face when selling 30 year old racquets for top dollar....... It probably costs about $30 to make, $45 tops, including shipping from China.

[@neertw]

Prostocks have shiny paint because they look better on tv (and under lights).....can't comment on the feel.

[@gregorr.1610]

@@vonbraun8051 ATP guys..... not Harry ;)

[@chuckfriebe843]

@@gregorr.1610 Well said

[@arnabbaruah6753]

6.1 means stiffness of 6.1mm (not 61 on RDC)

[@gianlucajandelli6387]

Exactly, he keeps making the same mistake for Wilson pro rackets.

[@hxhky]

How is stiffness measured in mm?

[@a2casius]

@@hxhky It's a measure of "deflection" when the racquet bends. The stiffer the racquet, the lesser the deflection.

[@jerome_morrow]

@@gianlucajandelli6387 He makes plenty of mistakes for other racquets (especially HEAD, which he obviously does not favour anyway) and other subjects in his videos. However, he apparently does not read the comments or chooses to ignore them since he rarely acknowledges his howlers, and/or will continue to say the same wrong thing in subsequent videos.

[@saimaali9520]

6.1 is the swing index. How are you calculating stiffness in mm 🤔

[@neilkapoortennis]

12 points head light is what I believe does it? I loved the original pro staff 90, but this has a larger head and is a bit light than 340…how does it feel in the hand?

[@cavaleer]

Like butter. I actually added some lead to the handle to give it a slight head light balance. The balance is 9 pts HL. It comes pre-filled with foam.

[@SuwatchaiWoonkon]

hi, any news for the new Wilson Pro Staff six one 100 v13 ?

[@mact7766]

why they dont sell this in stores ? like the H22 Blade pros. those are really good sticks.

[@KorvanAleric]

How compared to the pro staff classic 1993 (Stefan Edberg). Seems to share exact the same stats. What braid are mounted on the reviewd one? How many lbs?

[@leisurefarm]

Harry's strokes seem different - and better!

[@andreaaa9204]

Are you drunk...?

[@Lego-tennis]

The Pro Staff looks good on you Harry.

[@fosho8214]

Did this guy not read the comments from the blade pro video? The six.one is way stiffer than the blade pro yet he says the RA for this is 61 and blade pro RA is 71.lol Someone tell this guy Wilson measures stiffness differently. This channel is ok it's just sometimes he is way off.

[@listonshaw454]

let's give him a break, that stiffness parameter is a little confusing...

[@jerome_morrow]

@@listonshaw454 Harry’s had enough breaks for so many previous howlers. Even his fans are finally coming round to realising his questionable knowledge.

[@owenbyrne4429]

Any chance of reviewing the pro staff six one 100 that I have seen a couple of times if you can get hold of one please? cheers

[@KarmaticEvolution]

I purchased one not long ago. I like it but don't love it. It doesn't have all the advantages of the typical Pro Staff (of course being 100 that is to be expected), the trade-off was not worth-it to be but a decent racquet overall.

[@youzywx]

Could you compare this raquet to the RF97????

[@lancefrederickzabala2477]

What grip size did you use on this one?

[@kennydilger1]

Have you checked the swing weight of the standard Pro Staff 97 V13? I am curious what it’s strung swing weight is compared to the 333g measured for the Pro Stock Six One

[@K4R3N]

Good specs, you guys looked like you were enjoying hitting with it

[@CNTRLELITE]

'Great Maestro' I ask you a vital question for me: I play pretty well with a wilson blade racket, great for power and control, I love it, but my elbow starts to ache! I need to change and I would like a racquet that is lighter so as not to hurt to hold the racket so much, but has even more thrust and control, the best possible !! serve & volley - forehand & one-handed backhand in top and slice to attack! which racket would you recommend me please ?? I only trust You. Thank You

[@jason6344]

I heard the Ultra gives a lot of power

[@abelsicat6097]

Do you know what string tension you put it? When you guys play tested ut

Harry is flying on the court with this stick! Looks great. 355 g strung looks like 340 unstrung, exactly RF 97 specs. And the swingweight is also exact 333 with RF 97 according to Tenniswarehouse specs. The stiffness is weird though, very low for a pro stock model. Fed's is 68 RA. Anyway, great racket for collection.

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

Most pro stocks from Wilson are below 62 RA (h22, h19).

[@IKNOKWORLDWIDE]

can you explain how a gloss paint job has more feel and a matte paint job is dampened??

[@bowsershark]

You can really just recognize it by handling it before even playing with the racquets. The matt finish is softer to the touch and you get that absorbing of shock feel.

[@j.d.2779]

It is the same as the old 6.1 95 TOUR EDITION 12.4 Oz model that was very rare, probably only available to pro players and "Tour Edition" was printed on the top of the hoop. Not intended for recreational players but more for males at the 6.0 + level.

[@bowsershark]

That's what I said it imitates, I have the older Tour 95 Pro Staff 6.1 red&white model. I did not know it was so rare. 😳

[@j.d.2779]

@@bowsershark I beieve ATP touring pro Daniel Evans is playing with this frame with the "Tuxedo" cosmetics to make it look like a Pro Staff 97.

[@brewswithdrew]

Are you guys going to check out the 95 v14?

[@kristinebreen434]

Thanks for review, would you mind to advice what would be the difference between string patterns 18X20 and 18x16. I was playing with Wilson one six 95 spin effect racket with string pattern 18x16. Would 18x20 pattern feel similar? Many thanks in advance! Kristina

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

No. Not at all similar.

[@slapcitytennis9103]

Dude Harry’s forehand looking way better here

[@andreaaa9204]

Umm...no

[@GriffGC]

How does gloss impact feel?

[@mattgoodTX]

It's the HPS 6.1 layup. Not some magical Pro Stock layup. The nCode 6.1 is still a better frame than this "reissue." It's also not a 61 RA. The average strung RA on these has been in the 68-71 range. I had one that was 65 but that was the lowest I'd seen. The 6.1 is Wilson's own stiffness index.

[@atilayyerkal]

What makes nCode better? Just curious

[@mattgoodTX]

@@atilayyerkal the nCode had a better feel but still retained the overall power profile of the 6.1 line. It made it to where you could get the most out of the frame without an overly harsh or stiff response.

[@BullyGarfield.]

@@mattgoodTX how about the 2015 version?

[@mattgoodTX]

@@BullyGarfield. not a bad iteration but can't touch the nCode. I think it had some potential. But Wilson missed the mark just a bit.

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

Actually, 6.1si is pretty flexible. I own a couple of 6.0si Wilsons and they feel about 62 RA. The 6.1 is slightly more flexible. and the 7.5si is a wet noodle.

[@andonivr]

How do you compare this with a prestige pro?

[@3mladen3]

Great video as allways, I was just on wilson site and couldn't find this racquet, and I am a big six.one 95 fan. If you could share how did your friend get this racquet from wilson. Tnx

[@bengray5013]

Search pro labs on the Wilson website

[@rickquintana2708]

This right up my alley since I still play with a pro staff classic 6.1. BUT, I went to the wilson website and could not find these for sale. Can you provide a direct link to this racket?

[@MMm-kp7lk]

go to wilson sporting good and type in Pro Staff Pro Labs and it will show up

[@cavaleermountaineer3839]

Go to the Pro Labs section. It's not in the regular Pro Staff page.

[@cybernetennis]

Its 250 on the site but I have a code for 25% off if anyone needs it. Its a great racket for those that have arm issues too.

[@Riskitforthebrisket]

Did the old code expire?

[@antonyvo4prez]

Do you have one?

[@cybernetennis]

@@antonyvo4prez "Gavin-21" for I think a decent discount :)

[@frankduo8192]

@@cybernetennis aw darn it says it's not valid. Thanks though!

[@brianseo2141]

Still got it?? @joshuadearing

[@pierre6932]

How is this in comparison to the head prestige mp 98?

[@islandmerchandise3017]

Is it same composition as the red white six one 95? Just different cosmetics?

[@bengray5013]

Likely to be the same composition as the original red yellow and black ps6.1 95

[@atilayyerkal]

This is six.one 95 Hyper G (second gen) mold. It doesn't have the parallel drilling like the red one or any other technology applied to it.

[@bengray5013]

@@atilayyerkal do you mean Hyper (the grey and red one), hyper g is a string.

[@atilayyerkal]

@@bengray5013 yeah lmao my bad I meant hyper pro staff 😅

[@bengray5013]

@@atilayyerkal hehe 😂 no worries dude 👍🏻

[@bengray5013]

The pro stocks have gloss paint because it stands out more on tv! It doesn’t make a noticeable difference to the feel 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@vonbraun8051]

Not necessarily. I strung up a bunch of new Wilson rackets for an ATP pro and they had a satin finish. He hated it and eventually got his gloss back.

[@chuckfriebe843]

Exactly! See my above comment. Agreed

[@bengray5013]

@@vonbraun8051 yeah not all pros are using gloss paint, not all are using pro stocks either, some pro stocks even come in matte finish... but in general it doesn’t have much affect on the feel

[@vonbraun8051]

@@bengray5013 Tell that to del Potro. Wilson kept begging him to let them paint up some new K Factor 6.1 's(18x20) for him but. he swore he could feel the new paint and didn't like it. The ones he played with (until Wilson could make paint he was happy) were so beat up you would not believe it. To ordinary people like us, no way can we feel the paint. To those guys, who knows? The biggest complaint I hear from the guys is they do not want the new racket to lack that soft feel. For one guy I had to string his new frames 10 times each at 70lbs, before the final stringing at 46lbs. Just to soften them up.

[@bengray5013]

@@vonbraun8051 we get it, you string for pro’s, you’re a hero, well done, here’s a medal 🏅

[@antonyvo4prez]

Love this racquet. This is the one

[@victordu4694]

so it's a six one 95 i can buy for 90 euros elsewhere ?

[@stevenhuynh6417]

Does it come with a leather grip or a standard synthetic grip? Thanks!

[@cavaleermountaineer3839]

Black leather

[@HonkyMonky]

@@cavaleermountaineer3839 nope synthetic

[@jamescollieson4726]

6.1 isn’t the RA.

[@whuang03]

The original 6.1 was so much more stiff. My elbow can't handle it anymore. There is no way this one is RA of 61

[@tenniscounterspin1431]

It may be around 61. Remember, this is a pro-stock. The layup is different. Even the mold may be a bit different. For reference, the retail 2012 6.1 BLX had an RA of 63. The model prior to that had an RA of 67.

[@bowsershark]

I strung it with a multifiber and a soft and it was much more user friendly to the elbow. For even more comfort, one can go with just a multifiber.

[@joepalumbo5340]

Please add links ... I can't find this racquet to order

[@Mewborne89]

search pro labs on wilson website

[@hxhky]

Where on wilson.com? I dont see the racquet.

[@MrBMJ]

Google “Wilson Pro Labs”

[@hxhky]

@@MrBMJ oh thank you.

[@EdmonBegoli]

Where is coach Andrew?

[@weyman4317]

Where is Brad Gilbert? -he owns the shop

[@bowsershark]

Looks to me like the red and white Pro Staff 6.1 Tour has been revived with a new paint job.

[@EyesOfTheInternet]

It's shocking how little Harry knows in this video.

[@romolodifonzo4406]

Why does everyone hate Countervail?

[@whuang03]

absorb too much vibration.. You can't feel the ball when it hits the strings. I bought a blade with cv, and really just wanted to toss in the garbage bin.

[@kazuyafan906]

From everything that I've seen and read, everyone disliked how Countervail dampened the feel of the ball at impact. And now it seems like Wilson has listened to everyone's complaints and is removing Countervail from their newest racquets, e.g. Pro Staff v13 & Blade v6

[@gregorr.1610]

bc. with the color and the lack you have no feeling ;)

[@Mewborne89]

Honestly, I think it it just personal preference. I am an open level player and played with the 18x20 countervail a couple years back and used it for two years and it was a solid racquet. Most players complaining about it aren't at the highest level always so that is what makes it more of a personal preference IMO. I switched to the newer version V7 of it but prostock and it feels great too. Super solid!

[@bowsershark]

I like thecountervail Edition.

[@organicdemo114]

Tennis Spin..great info..on the 95 wilson,,many players like to stretch this racquet to a XL version of itself since this is a very control type racket,,making it into a 27.5 makes a beast out of this frame,Just by installing the XTP Xtended Tennis Product butt cap can easily customize this very popular frame..truly.jk

[@atrem7942]

Pro stock in my book is a racket that is totally custom. When it comes to you it 250 grams no added weight no balance point nothing. It needs a full tune before you can string it.

[@carlo8899]

They don’t make it in 16 x 19. Maybe in the future.

[@f1fahad]

Legit can't find it on the website

[@Mewborne89]

you have to search for pro labs on wilson website. been up there for 6 months now

[@harryherman5371]

Ordered one.

[@abelsicat6097]

Number 5:49

[@Dropshot1]

Nice review but I will say a couple things. You didn’t talk once about how the racket plays or anything with any detail about the racket too. Those are nothing but six 195s that Wilson made to sell. They’re not pro stock rackets. They’re not gonna have a bunch of the same racket in the exact same spec as a pro stock racket so that’s not true. When you made this video, maybe they weren’t available to the public, but they absolutely are now through multiple TENNIS stores.

[@quinby123]

Not a racket for weekend hackers. Stefan Edberg used to play with a similar model 25yrs ago.

[@albinpettersson1118]

Agree, but Edberg used the PS85 6.0 his entire career (Although painted in the more modern 6.1 95 first color scheme).

[@JamesBond-lq7bs]

@@albinpettersson1118 Edberg also tried using Adidas Delta for about a week and the Pro staff Classic for a bit longer (which he helped to develop) but always came back to his 85.

[@quinby123]

@@albinpettersson1118 Yes it was an 85sqi racket.

[@deitpep6629]

I recall Wilson pushed the classic 6.1 95 for the rec and weekend hackers. It was very available in regular stores and popular. Sussed to hear if true, that Edberg was really still using only a ps85 with the 95 paintjob for all the rest of his gs matches. His endorsement photo on the racquet was on the racquet packaging. There was a photo in mags of his wedding where all the guests were holding the 6.1 95's for him and his bride as a walking corridor. Or were all those ps85's, with the 6.1 95 paintjobs too?

[@quinby123]

@@deitpep6629 I think Jim Courier used it too when he was on tour.

[@BullyGarfield.]

I have that racket!

[@noturbo]

run old fella 😂

[@yanirahowell8011]

Hey guys, it's ya boi Cris and I have this racquet. It's a very demanding that can't produce much spin but if you're a flat hitter that can consistently hit hard. Unfortunately I broke it 😔

[@WaltKurtz68]

I would love to buy one, even at $250, but I can't! Wilson only sells it in the USA. F*ckerz!!!

[@lucianopombo8816]

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[@八極麻花捲]

Can’t stop laughing when comparing skills against tennis nerd or intuitive tennis. A stringer on court? Worse than malvin at leisure sports.