2022 Austrian GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

The new regulations delivered some great racing again! Charles Leclerc FINALLY took another race win, there were problems for Sainz and Perez, plus we discuss what F1 can do about flares and crowd trouble.
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[@TwoTwoFourSix]

If Tommy gloated as much as Matt does when Charles wins, we’d go nuts

[@baileymccoy8103]

@@PolishEddie1992 lmaoooo

[@chefcc90]

So true.

[@vikas_vpm]

Cause he's just a fanboy buy Matt is passionate

[@peachulemon]

Tommy is to chill for that 😂, Matty's energy comes out when there a good race regardless of Charles win or not 🤣

[@nickpalumbo8046]

I wouldn't mind because I'm a fanboy not passionate for charles.

[@wombatracing7131]

Can we all just appreciate how Ferrari "nailed" the VSC strategy?! Like with what they did the races before that is huge

[@chefcc90]

This was what sealed the deal on race day. Pace was relatively equal but Red Bull didn't have a good VSC strategy and was trying to play catchup

[@ReadySteadyDESTROY]

Immediately boxing your car for fresh tires during a VSC / SC feels pretty obvious tbh

[@Reaz399]

@@chefcc90 The pace was quite similar but the tyre deg wasn‘t. Max never really had a chance to win this race

[@AbsoleteAim]

@@ReadySteadyDESTROY Not for Ferrari unfortunately

[@mark4motion68]

This is what Ferrari did in silverstone with the lead car. Is pretty standard

[@rhitvikpasricha2508]

Love how every F1 weekend of mine extends for two more days thanks to WTF1 💪 Thursday: Weekend warmup Friday-Sunday: Racing Monday: Internet's Best Reactions Tuesday: WTF1 Podcast

[@Husmanmusic]

Wednesday, Breathe

[@TheCaptain820]

@@Husmanmusic hottakes wednesday on twitch too

[@LambdaHDvideo]

Alonso finishing 10th with a 3-stopper, starting last, in the 4th fastest car is surely an A for me:D Would have been on for P7/P6 finish if he didnt have the tyre problem that forced him to do a 4th stop, which is brilliant from the back of the grid imo

[@mjk06]

Alonso drove like a demon for sure. A for me.

[@LambdaHDvideo]

@@bakeshield2761 yeah thats a good point, i guess the expectations are just higher for Alonso lol

[@Blue_Beta]

SneakyAlonso stopped without telling nothing in the radio with the box to not take attention by the stewards. Smartass boy.

[@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168]

Did he not do a 3 stop? One for hard , two for a loose medium and three for another medium , did he stop again?

[@LambdaHDvideo]

@@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168 he went hard-hard-medium-medium He had to pit twice for mediums because the first set they put on started coming off of the wheel rim, and he would have dnf'd if he doesnt stop again So it was meant to be a 3 stop, but he had to come out twice for the last stop

[@R8yan8]

Sainz engine exploding probably saved Ferrari from having to make strategy decisions or team order calls late in the race. Carlos was faster than verstappen, and with Leclercs throttle issues verstappen closed the gap a lot by the end of the race, and safe to assume sainz would have been even closer to leclerc and we could've gotten another brilliant Ferrari strategy call

[@pranc236]

Thats a great point.

[@kuyt20]

@@pranc236 No its not. Leclerc was on much fresher hard tyres compared to Verstappen before the VSC. Verstappen was losing ground very quickly on those tyres. The VSC forced them both to be on the same age medium tyres, which played into Verstappen's favor. And its telling that Leclerc still has more bad luck than Verstappen this season, even if we assume that both of Max's 2 retirements were the same as Leclerc's 2, which in reality they are not since Leclerc retired from leading positions compared to Max's retirements both from 2nd place. And then we have the Ferrari 'stragedy' of Monaco and Silverstone which cost Leclerc wins in both. And the there was the engine change penalty, starting from the back in Canada. People say 'Max is better', which at the moment I cannot agree with. Since Australia up until Austria, Max had the more reliable, equally quick, higher top speed car that has also been kinder to its tyres on raceday. And most importantly Max has Red Bull strategists. Those are significant advantages.

[@pranc236]

@@kuyt20 op’s statement is half a joke…. And the point that was being made is “never under estimate ferrari’s ability to F things up”. Which u also did not account for in ur rant.

[@blakebarone1809]

@@kuyt20 the statement was in relation to Sainz v Leclerc, not Max v Leclerc.

[@saatresh]

That is a great point

[@waverod9275]

Something to keep in mind with Haas: they have Ferrari engines, and some of their difficulties have been due to that engine's reliability issues.

[@TPGReddo]

Gotta be honest, I have to disagree with the track limits complaints. Last year, everyone was asking for the fia to be consistent with track limits. This year, the FIA is finally consistent in track limits. The white line everywhere and if you cross it with all 4 wheels you get warned/penalised. Can't start making exceptions for just millimeters or so. Drivers gotta do better if they don't want to get penalised.

[@KarvidSR]

Yeah, the only problem again is that they arent punishing everyone at every time. Hopefully they just get some good ways to measure it and then thats it.

[@andrewis]

exactly!! thank you

[@Eghal]

I'm all for these track limits! Drivers can slow down to stay within the track limits.. just because we had 43 infringements doesn't mean we need more flexible track limits rules.

[@mjk06]

I'm all for the track limits being enforced. People say it'll stop over taking, well it won't really. It will also stop the car ahead keeping a gap by "going off the track"

[@CosRacecar]

Agreed. There has to be a line somewhere, and it has to be enforced. If 1mm doesn't matter, then another one beyond that doesn't either.

[@niharmehta6131]

The drivers said they can’t SEE the white lines especially in blind corners because of these new wheel covers for 2022. I mean think from their point of view. I’m not opposing track limits but we need to put ourselves in their shoes once.

[@CosRacecar]

@@niharmehta6131 It's not the wheel covers that are the issue, they've never been able to reliably see through the wheels, it's the larger wheels and bodywork. They need to adapt and use other reference points or else not take the risk.

[@DannySB991]

I mean, I'm not sure 5 points is what you'd call the title fight being on but sure. Max lost less here than he did finishing 7th at Silverstone..

[@TByrom]

Mick has found his gear and now's running at racing speed! Mick's arrived! Fly, Schumi! Fly!

[@Sam-th4jl]

i did the maths on it the other day, and in austria with 20 cars going through 10 corners (entry, apex, and exit) over 71 laps is 42600 potential track limits violations at a rate of about 8 per second. imo an automated system is the only reasonable way to enforce track limits edit: i also dont find the argument of whether they gain an advantage to be convincing, the line is the line. if you were talking about football and said "well the ball was only a millimeter over the line, there wasn't an advantage gained" you'd be laughed at, it would be a ridiculous statement. that's the risk you take by pushing the limits of the track, the drivers are well aware of that, and it wouldn't be an issue if the enforcement was consistent.

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

To be fair, it doesn't always come from pushing hard. Sometimes you lose control of the car or you *spin* or even *hit the wall* and come back to continue the race, would you give a penalty for that? Also, two cars collide and one gets penalty for "causing a collision" would you penalize both for the track limit infringement? Because an automated system would. Overall, however, I agree that it needs to be clearly *defined, standardized, and then automated* .

[@skylark1024]

Good overall weekend for Haas maximizing their cars specially Mick. Ric bobby bouncing back. Ocon had really strong overall weekend as well, considering what happened in British GP. Damn Alpha Tauri were bad this weekend. And Shaarl was relieved with how everything got. Good race overall

[@flyingsocks2498]

am I the only one that appreciate a good race weekend without being upset if so so doesn't win ? like I really like 90% of the drivers, I used to dislike Stroll but he's maturing so now he's in neutral territory but besides who ever wins it's fine by me

[@terryglover3215]

What was amazing was we were with Sainz when his engine conked out.

[@CosRacecar]

Track limits solution: Moats! 2 meter wide streams of water down the sides of the track. Good luck gaining an advantage with wet slicks!

[@chefcc90]

Fill them with piranhas too just to really seal the deal

[@lordoflek]

@@chefcc90 might as well just go with lava pits then

[@ricardoarguelles6706]

"IS NOT LOOKING GOOD BRUV" The highlight of the podcast, at least for me, i died xdddd

[@Stickies72]

It is so nice to see Matt finally happy after a GP. Good to see Ferrari were able to not totally screw up a race. Am so glad I found you all and I am so enjoying the shows and the channel. I am a huge F1 fan and you all put on the best show!!

[@Taterisstig]

F1 should implement a system like what we have here for American sports. At least for football there is usually an announcement that goes like “Here at x stadium we pride ourselves with putting sportsmanship above all else. If you notice any unsportsmanlike behavior, text or call the hotline” I know with it being an international sport i can see it being more challenging with numbers and languages but its super useful because you just report your location and what’s happening and security will escort the person out

[@DanWalker97_]

Ngl that is awful😂 imagine the reports max would be getting at silverstone and Lewis would be getting at zandvoort and Austria 😂

[@trackman07]

I rewatched the marshal re: Sainz car fire, he was running and looked like he had forgotten something, like a tire block.

[@danilicious2308]

He was told to get the car with the large extinguisher

[@astroandyborgloh]

1:17:40 of course, Seb's grade for the weekend needs to be a: BEE :-)

[@SkiRacingOz]

I see what you did there

[@bradycraft95]

Charles gotta be rethinkin that contract

[@bw8818]

I just loved the way Matt is pumped to say w t f1 podcast at the start

[@Continental_Champ]

1:23:41 Matt was about to activate instant kill

[@gametime2592]

Lmfao I'm listening to the podcast at 4 am and matt takes my name first hahaha

[@erikhuisman2487]

To me it's plain and simple. Russel went off the apex and ran into Perez.

[@ryanlee315]

It’s a racing incident for me. With dirty air in front of him and the corner being awfully off-cambered, Russell got to the apex while Perez went deep on the brakes, pinching Russell on the inside with no more than a car’s width to the apex kerb. The rear wheel of Perez was always going to touch with the front wheel of Russell. Both driver misjudged the situation.

[@rubywest5166]

On the sensor front... I wonder how many sensors there are, and whether there's precise regulations on where they're placed. There've been a couple of cases in Indycar where teams putting their transponders in slightly different places has caused incorrect provisional results in photo finishes... So if there's no set location, what's to say a couple of teams aren't "accidentally" putting them in a location that gives a cm or two more wiggle room.

[@parabolica127]

Not all marshals are trained in fire suppression; some have a dedicated role of bringing the equipment to the scene for those trained in fire suppression to use. We saw the same thing at Bahrain during Grosjean’s crash.

[@ZEROxFUSIONZ]

The Onsie has been right 100% of the time. I reckon Tommy should get Grace to wear a Hamilton onsie for France, They might be strong and if Lewis wins that race its even more insane!

[@ticrod6721]

About the thing with the marshals being chaotic in that sainz situation. There was a very insightful redditpost from a marshal that was near the accident. He said the reason why they needed so much time to come to the car was because they get instructions per radio and were told they had to use bigger fire extinguishers. And some other stuff that i can’t remember, but definitely gives you a different perspective

[@christianknight7120]

My prediction that I’m on the fence on but seems very likely is that Charles is gonna have to take minimum 2 more engine penalties after the summer break if not he’ll take one just before

[@Tohardtomakeachannel]

Yeah I think you're right and is the main reason I think the title fight is already over most likely

[@urhnoddy9795]

As it stands yeah. But the summer break should give them time to hopefully get it sorted.

[@emielmaaijen842]

He was already on his fourth after Baku, so he'll need need a new one after 7/8 races so that's around Zandvoort and Monza. Or they could take one earlier in Spa, but I guess they want to build momentum after the summer break, and they also want to perform well at their home GP. So its going to be a difficult choice for Ferrari

[@suckieduckie]

@@emielmaaijen842 It's not just the engine. Out of all the 7 limited components that make up a Power Unit, Leclerc has used twice as much OR MORE than Verstappen so far this season. Verstappen and Checo are on their 2nd ICE, MGU-K, MGU-H and turbo while Leclerc is at 4 each. Verstappen is still on his first Energy store and control electronics while Leclerc is at 2 or 3 depending on the part. Same story for the exhaust, 3 for Max, 6 for Charles.

[@emielmaaijen842]

@@suckieduckie exactly, so possibly 2 or more penalty's can really kill Charles's title hopes. Unless RB suddenly DNF's every other race.

[@marulisu]

I don't mind the track limits stuff. I like that all the tracks are different. All have different challenges. I love that the most all around driver and team wins at the end. In these tracks you just have to be precise.

[@tlrprice7]

Sensors would be great! But you would need sensors on the car and then sensors on the track, which my be hard to set up for every track but it would be cool.

[@bbeethe2]

Is there a way to add a slick strip on the outside that will punish you for going wide, but after that it's paved and you can get back into the race but you've lost time. not sure if that's possible but it would be better than the sausages.

[@griffisjm]

Does anyone know how many marshalls there are each race?

[@roryk101]

Tommy should use Grace's powers for good, a different team each race until all the teams have a win

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

I am not sure if they make onesies with GOATifi name on them, but if yes, lets use this as AN ULTIMATE TEST for Grace's power 😂

[@leonardochiste7683]

Btw there are sensors in the tarmac to check track limits (on sky sports Italy they say it every time), so they are in the same place for everyone

[@gravityperformance2356]

just put 2 sensors at the front and back of the car down the centre line of the car, so they can still get a bit of kerb and it's easier for drivers to gauge, and make it past the centre line is track limits

[@BobbyM89]

Title fight is back off 😂

[@malloriebiron5918]

Grace needs a Zhou onesie so he can finally have some good luck.

[@SleepySteve_sk]

Ferarri and Red Bull probably relying on reliability "updates" after the engine freeze to fix their problems. So performance could have been a higher priority then reliability when looking at the long-term perspective while waiting until the new engine regs.

[@B-Mozzer]

as to the marsel was he the one that when to get the truck with more equitment

[@TheUntaintedTreble]

Finally something for Matt to celebrate. He was starting to look like a sad little puppy

[@lyleclarke619]

35:00 agree with Matt, just stick to what we've got, and so glad Tommy bought up Indycar at COTA, that was ridiculous.

[@AlfredTheGreatestEver]

Hey I don't know if Tommy posted it anywhere but which rider did miracle Grace give the win to in MotoGP? And I hope she's wearing a 41 Aleix Espargaro onsie for the rest of the season 😅.

[@raulgocubs]

I appreciate you guys ❤

[@KaminoCloningOperations]

We’re all on the MEGA MICK HYPETRAIN. #LFGMICK

[@hrithikjho4075]

we need VAR for track limits?

[@achintya3061]

Finally some proper ratings for Ocon

[@EduSaav]

Tommy putting a Mercedes Onesie would be the Ultimate test to confirm Graces Powers!

[@ronrolfsen3977]

I would say a Williams onesie would be the ultimate test and at a track where it is very very unlikely to rain.

[@bizarrebunny5579]

Frank’s final thoughts were beautiful

[@jpisaac85]

Things I learned this season: Leclerc can't win from pole but can win from 2nd. Max gets on the podium unless he DNFs. Perez gets a podium if he starts last. Someone needs to piss off Mick every race weekend to make him remember his own last name. Sainz is cursed. Plan E means Explode Engine.

[@thesunnynationg]

i genuinely think that plan E is related to issues with the E-ngine

[@10parth10]

This is the first time Leclerc won without pole

[@MrRedfoxx1989]

@ 25:13 put the sensors in the wheel covers. Boom

[@BelegCuthali0n]

I've been watching your podcasts and IBR video's for years now and I love you guys, but there's 2 things I have to get off my chest after this podcast. First off was the joke about giving electrical shocks to the race directors in the track limits discussion and Katey's remark "Oh can we bring back Masi then?" I know it's a joke and all, but in the light of this weekend, where we have seen all kinds of upheaval over the boorish behavior of fans (who would probably use the "it was just a joke" excuse for their totally unacceptable behavior as well), I think that joke is inappropriate. That man has literally received death threats because of his decisions last year and if you're going to joke about physical punishment to him you're actually undermining your disapproval of the toxic environment that has lead to those excesses. We're always talking about how the drivers have to realize they are role models to some of their followers, then you guys should also realize that with over 1.1 million subscribers you have become that as well. Secondly there was the part where you were criticizing the marshal's response to the Sainz incident and even kinda making fun of him. You can't judge these people's reactions if you haven't been in their shoes. I work on an LPG terminal and am also trained in firefighting and as a first responder. I therefore look at it quite differently from you. When Sainz stopped his car, it looked like it was staying where it was and at that point flames could be seen. The marshal therefore started towards the car with his fire extinguisher. As he approached the car started rolling backwards as Sainz released the brakes. That changed the priority for the marshall to preventing the car moving first, so he put down the extinguisher and went to get blocks for the wheels (unaware that his colleague had already grabbed some as he passed right behind him). It may have looked like they didn't know what they were doing, but they actually followed protocol, which is to take care of their own safety first (preventing the car from rolling over them) even before that of the driver or putting out the fire. I have been to the scene of car accidents where, when a car is on its side, we have to prioritize stabilizing that car for our own safety before helping injured people inside the car. Maybe the FIA needs to look into safety systems or the protocols for the cars/drivers to make sure that on tracks where there are slopes they switch off the car in gear, so it doesn't roll. That may be a whole different discussion though, but I have to say: with all the outrage when Horner called a marshall rogue and the way you have been rightfully praising these unpayed heroes before, I found the way you spoke in this podcast of this guy, who was doing his very difficult and dangerous 'job', quite disrespectful. Anyway, sorry for going on a bit of a Katey rant here. I do love your podcasts, but I felt I had to say this.

[@TeamSukiyo]

Yeah Bottas didn’t get a penalty in Hungary for braking too late, he got a penalty because him braking too late caused a collision and took out 5 cars. So George didn’t get a penalty because he missed the apex, he got a penalty because him missing the apex caused a collision and took out another car.

[@thegurns6976]

Fine the track organizers if there is smoke from flares that get onto the track.

[@trtatv]

Matt was truly on form today with that intro! He had been waiting for that since the end of the race.

[@masonbeck566]

1:58 we all know Matt’s alter ego: xMattyG 😝

[@mjk06]

I love the fact FIA were punishing drivers for track limits. Just wish they were more consistent with it. Honestly Ferrari would be the only 2 cars in a race and still find a way to mess it up haha! I say that as a Ferrari fan.

[@maxtuma127]

To be honest. I was there for the weekend. Security does check everything. Flares are absolutely banned and some fans got kicked out for using them. However these smoke bombs? are allowed and personally I think add a lot to the atmosphere. They where mostly used on the verstappen stand so I doubt anyone there has a problem with it. They do not take away lot of visibility when you are inside the smoke. The smokes where put on at the warm up lap and at the end. It wasnt really bad in my opinion.

[@w4n7iiYaScar]

ohh how the turns have tabled

[@BeastlyGamerr]

The only mechanical issue Mercedes’ has had this season is Spain towards the end

[@divyansh1207]

Ferrari was right on it with the strategy this time though reliability shitted on the 1-2 finish but they need to be appreciated when they have done something well

[@man0mule]

pretty sure there were metal detectors at COTA last year when i went. and they checked bags

[@MrRedfoxx1989]

Matt @ 39:25: It [“Haas”] to be the biggest turnaround of the season. Me: OMG ITS RIGHT THERE!!!

[@chrisw9445]

re the flares.... yeah in montreal the only thing they checked for was outside booze

[@Jamescc32]

What if it was how much you exceeded or gained so for example u can’t go off more than 5 meters whilst gaining an advantage over the course of a race or something like that, meaning going off 0.1m doesn’t make as much of a difference etc

[@fgsaramago]

Its simply not possible to calculate with any accuracy how much one wins or loses each time he goes off track

[@bernardomacara6284]

If there was a wall, they would hit the wall, if its a wall you go super close to it? Sometimes yes, sometimes not, but the drivers need to change and treat like a wall, but you would definitely need sensors there

[@davidmccourt6139]

I think it's easy to forget when talking about Ferrari's prior ruthlessness with moving teammates aside for Schumacher to win titles - Red Bull and Mercedes did not even exist as teams when that was going on. That was 20 years ago and not just under different management, but there have been at least five changes of every strategic manager position since that time. It's just a different team than it was back then.

[@mikedebruyn]

@33:10 if the drivers would drive there differently if there had been gravel there then they can drive differently.

[@B-Mozzer]

a way around track limit just put 2 foot of gravel outside of the white line no one would go over the line

[@ToeKneeTran]

@WTF1 can we please get some time stamps for the podcasts?

[@Mr_Sentoo]

With Sainz fire by the way the marshal ran back to get the things to hold the car on the hill.

[@RCRitterFPV]

Re: track limits... Make it slower outside the line, grass or gravel 1m outside the white line, big dust kicked up if you are out there. don't make it faster 1" outside the line. Imagine it was a wall....

[@flphil4537]

That jingle didn’t have “Texas spice”. That was some deep south Louisiana/ Alabama picking

[@zinion70]

Maybe the marshall that ran away tried to fetch something to stop Carlos' car with. That problem they seemed unprepared for.

[@benjaminchristianhay]

Has Tommy dictated the video length to manifest some Max positivity? 1:33:33

[@TriplePProductionz]

WTF1: *talking about how IndyCar track limits* Me, a NASCAR fan: *sweats in even worse track limits*

[@philkakid5617]

Red Bull had specifically told Checo not to be aggressive at that corner.

[@Rocketdog299]

Someone totally needs to come up with a jingle for Katy's FIA rants. If you guys can't get any new jingles for ABCDF1, maybe that is something to ask of your fans instead ;D .

[@Pilcrepus]

If we get a Williams onesie for Grace, will they go ahead and win the championship?

[@nsin121]

Alonso should be bumped up a grade for the finger wag alone.

[@Georgiannna]

Regarding the fans behaviour and level of safety on the track i have to say i am very much shocked. Last year i attended this race, the whole weekend, in the Max Verstappen stand. I have to say i was fascinated, there were a lot of families and kids, and people enjoying themselves, yes there were people drunk and dancing in the tents, a lot of beer drank, but i havent seen a single incident going on and i felt very safe and was thinking "look at this", a whole new level a civilisation. People had fridges and chairs and blanckets to sit on, but no garbage left behind whatsoever, so this change at 180° within a year is awkward. Also there was security all over the place, pointing people what to do, and flares were on, but in a very non invasive way and it made the things even better. I am just speechless, i am not sure how this could happen.

[@QDebode]

As an activist myself... there are so many ways to get flags and shirts and stuff like that in somewhere. Hard to find at a busy check-in, I'm not surprised they got in with everything.

[@WhiskyCanuck]

Ferrari was also kind of soft on the team orders during the Vettel & Raikkonen years. Sometime they would do things like give Seb the better strategy than Kimi, but didn't often ask him to let Seb through when it seemed like the clear move in the fight with Hamilton in those years. At the time I was thinking that it had something to do with Kimi still being Ferrari's last WDC, so they weren't going to ask their champion to step aside.

[@eliassaratsis]

in fp2 ( i thinkmight be fp1 but doesnt matter) the moto gp sensor for track limits was damaged and there was a red flag. how can moto gp have that and f1 cant?

[@kirstinp3742]

Katie’s final thoughts are so cute and wholesome!

[@davidhughes2453]

Ocon has been great so far this season and has a lot more points then alonso but I still feel fernando has been so much quicker

[@pauls5745]

yeah Alonso has had some awful luck. we've seen they do have a quicker car now

[@JacksonDreyer]

@@pauls5745 think Alonso should go to McLaren?

[@jacobrev6567]

iam so happy matt finally his favorite f1 driver is charles leclerc win austrian grand prix

[@phillyphan595]

I didn't think the Binotto finger wagging at Charles was him "scolding" Charles

[@catalan500_8]

Oh man, that abdcdef1 jingle wouldn’t been great to premiere at Austin haha Edit: Frank waving goodbye at the end😭❤️

[@username69420h]

I think it's possible that Ferrari pushed their engine closer to it's limit to offset the loss of pace in the anti-proposing measures coming up and it almost didn't work and close to a double dnf but in the end they won so it worked out.

[@danilicious2308]

@WTF1 you completely missed the mark with your marshal criticism and I mean COMPLETELY! The marshals are directed by race control and have stricts regs. As for that single guy, he was told to get the car with the large extinguisher because the small one would never be enough and they actually weren't allowed to go on track yet, because the VSC wasn't called yet. Very unfortunate take on the whole issue...

[@dohtje5029]

Correct me if im wrong since I haven't heard it anywhere. But doesn't Ferrari have a small turbo, this really help on higher altitudes, like RedBull had a smaller turbo then Merc the last couple years hence they were a lot faster also explains Hamilton being on 41 sec behind Charles. Well we'll see in Mexico.. If I'm right I expect Ferrari taking it over RedBull if this is the case.

[@pranc236]

35min mark. Indy cars track limits at COTA. Im american and very much agree tommy. Its just silly and indycar is like “we are only 11 sec a lap slower than f1!” Well 13 secs if we slow down for that one corner. Lmao As a max fan… tommy u must sort out this onesie situation. No more messing around! 😉

[@chielwieringa1085]

There are other types of smoke Dutchies use to celebrate. Unfortunately, those are illegal in most countries.

[@WTH1812]

"Let's take the natural racing line and paint the track limit just inside of it .... hehehehehe", Red Bull Ring

[@kyleharrison713]

I remember hearing Mercedes telling Hamilton over the radio that he had a lap deleted, in the Race! Like, so what does that mean? lol

[@mjk06]

If it was a fastest lap then it wouldn't count and he also means he probably got a warning as well.

[@fgsaramago]

Fastest lap was deleted

[@kyleharrison713]

@@fgsaramago Ahh ok. I forgot he had that at one point.

[@OKF_Max]

You always gain when going off track expect if you lift of throttle for bit, which nobody does. You always gain either speed or tire saving by going wide on exit, that’s were they all leave tracklimits, on the Exit. If you can’t stay in between the lines you should get penalized. You have to judge your speed to fulfill the rules.

[@fundude365]

Before I say this, I'm really behind Carlos. I want to see him winning world championships. In fact it breaks my heart to even think this. But I agree, Ferrari _have_ to get behind Leclerc if they want to have a shot this year.

[@mrwalk6171]

Schumacher went to ferrari as a champion, leclerc went to ferrari without a victory, equal with sainz. Its not as clear cut

[@vasekkosar3931]

Nope, it very much is clear cut... Charles is miles quicker than Carlos. Also, he went to Ferrari in his second year in the sport and immediately had beaten 4-time world champion. The only reason Charles isn't miles ahead on points from Carlos is Ferrari being Ferrari (strategy, engine issues). There wasn't a single race this season where Carlos was quicker.

[@Reaz399]

Schumi also absolutely dominated his teammates whereas Leclerc actually lost to Sainz last season.

[@tcxtn3903]

@@Reaz399 Leclerc dominated Sainz 14x in the race with 2 DNFs. he just got outscored because his misfortunes coincided with Sainz luck…

[@nananani3366]

He grew up in Ferrari’s young driver academy. Ferrari started invested in him since his GP3 career. His Ferrari announcement was out mid season 2018. That was his rookie year in F1 and only a half season. Charles is so destined for Ferrari that I even fully understand Ferrari’s bias even if Charles and Carlos are on the same level. While Charles is miles ahead of Carlos in terms of talent, raw speed and wheel to wheel abilities, the answer is so clear. The only thing that in between is Santander’s money. We all know how Part 1 of Santander turned out. I do not want to see a Part 2.