2022 Compact Tractor Buyers Guide #1 - Horsepower & EPA Regulations

[@seanitaliano8759]

Agree Tim, been in the diesel industry for a decade now. That being said, my view of emissions has changed from my previous thoughts. With the advent of "common rail injection" and modern electronic engine control, my opinion is we don't really need an aftertreatment system so much on new engines. Common rail injection is so efficient, and can be done with such precision, as far as timing/pattern/pressure/rate, that you should not really see little if any particulate out of the exhaust. I feel like we need to change the laws, to reflect the current technological level we're at in 2022.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Right. Moderation and working within the technology we have. I agree. Overall, we want to treat the environment as best we can without going broke!

[@robs8882]

wouldn't that suggest that the regen mode would never run? if regen runs it must have a certain amount of contaminants.

[@Morpheen999]

@@robs8882 The extra fuel that needs to be produced and sold to run regens on all these diesel engines is less eco friendly to the atmosphere then it would be to run these new common rails without dpf's

[@Formulabruce]

@@TractorTimewithTim Think how much COOLER the engines run with Regen. I plugged off my EGR as well. No smoke, no soot.. more power. OH, and runs cool exhaust. Without EGR the DPF wouldnt get plugged up with crap they are trying to burn that isnt burnable.

[@Formulabruce]

@@Morpheen999 SO TRUE!!

[@Kcolby47]

Tim, I appreciate your objective and transparent observations, and honest opinions. They are a “breath of fresh air”! It’s refreshing when “reasonableness” is presented the way that you do. Thanks for informing us an sharing. Blessings.

[@KH2PM]

I bought my first tractor last summer after watching many of your videos, Tim. I Considered Mahindra, JD and Kubota, and really wanted a turbocharged Diesel engine. After researching and looking at the offerings of the aforementioned competition, my decision was to buy a John Deere 2025R TLB. The added expense and complexity of the aftertreatment hardware over the long term was my deciding point. My residential property is about 4 acres, and so far 25HP has been plenty. I really had fun watching your videos about the various accessories while researching tractors. Pallet forks are really useful, and I’m contemplating grapples now. Thank you Tim and Christy for your awesome channel!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for watching!

[@wishkah4369]

Looking at biting at either the 1025R or 2025R JD very soon. For being so close to being the same tractor.... it is a tough decision! LOL

[@jagx234]

@@wishkah4369 There are some very key performance differences. The engine is indeed the exact same. It has higher hydraulic pressure and also a higher flow rate from a bigger pump. Higher rated axles and lift capacities front and rear, more ground clearance, faster ground speeds, etc. Much more maneuverable and many thousands less than the large frame 2 series. The large 2 series are empirically better tractors in all capacities, but price and fitting in a certain tightness of space are downsides. If I had a larger building for my animals, and a bunch more money, I would've gotten a 2032 in a heartbeat. In my opinion, having had a 1025 and 2025, the 1025 is more suited to more people, and very capable for homestead tasks.

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

Chris… I have 10 acres if hardwood property. My tractor is the Kubota equivalent (BX23S). I don’t have forks but want them. This is an upgrade from my old BX24… so over the past 20 years, I have accumulated 12 implements. My grapple is my favorite. It is so useful I have it on my loader twice as much as my bucket. Clearing brush, turning compost, carrying limbs and logs, loading timber on my trailer, burning brush piles… there are so many tasks that get done with it around here, I honestly don’t know how I got them done with out it! Enjoy your baby tractor. It is the perfect Swiss Army knife for survival on a small acreage homestead!

[@harrisonsdepot]

I agree with eliminating emissions for tractors up to 50hp. Many of our smaller tractors are only used occasionally. I am sure we can all agree to plant trees. Nothing soaks carbon like a tree while it’s growing. Once mature you have the carbon trapped, harvest and repeat.

[@GrumpyGuysGarage]

Just a little bit of clarifying information about the regulations. The Nonroad Compression Ignition (diesel) standards were first proposed in 1995 (Clinton administration) as a result of the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments passed by Congress and signed by George Bush. Regulations are not developed overnight, and the development of these regulations would have started during the Bush administration. These regulations required a phased in approach to the regulations with the first phase (Teir 1) being required in model year 2000. Depending on the size of engine, there were between 3 and 5 phases until we got to Teir 4 requirements in 2008. Additionally, it's important to note that these regulations only address what is often referred to as criteria pollutants (particulate matter, hydrocarbons, sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, oxides of nitrogen). The criteria pollutants have all been found to have direct health impacts to humans at elevated concentrations. Thus, the reason they are regulated. The nonroad compression ignition standards (or currently Tier 4 standards) DO NOT regulate carbon dioxide which is the primary issue in the climate change issue.

[@ZILAwelds]

Idiocracy …. Exactly …. My wife that movie is over the top, i say : its a documentary …

[@strangerdanger1271]

It plays better with his audience if he just blames Obama without doing his research.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have removed this statement. It may take a few hours for the edit to take affect.

[@scooter2470]

Also fair to note, this scenario is somewhat of a chicken and egg, we regulate to control issue, the regulations drive innovation and technology. Would the development of common rail injection have occurred without the push to do so? I am reminded of this when I am sitting in traffic behind an old muscle car, antique car, old diesel truck when you can see, and smell the exhaust....and I think....jeesh, could you imagine if every car and truck did this as to how bad it would be with the population density we have now?

[@christopherjilek5467]

One of the issues I have seen with the DPF systems is that operators are trying to run new DPF machines the same way they ran the pre DPF machines. They want to run the machine at a lower rpm which generates more soot and then leads to more regens/ plugged filters. My dealer told me to run the machine at full throttle and the DPF system will perform well and it has. Do I like the systems? No. Are they going away? No. If I can change my operating style to match what the machine needs then it is a win win because I will have less down time and increase the longevity of the machine. I am not saying that DPF is a reliable system I am just saying we can do things as operators to help them be less unreliable. Just my thoughts. Great video Tim!!

[@dustinslanec6747]

Great point. My dealer said to never operate it at less than 2000 rpm while working. I have only had 1 regen so far and that was at 42 hours. Im now at 70 hours. to soon to say on reliability but no problems yet.

[@Morpheen999]

The problem is it still won't live as long a pre dpf machine..

[@michaelmactavish4445]

my kubota dealer sells kubotas with dpf or with out option iwich he useually removes it if anyone doesnt want dpf here in canada

[@sewerman911]

They are worried about emissions, but want you to burn more full to not have to regen then run the tractor for up to 30 minutes if you do need to regen. Seems like a plush to me just more government butting in. That being said that have car and trucks with a start/stop on the engines to save fuel. See the irony here?

[@michaelmactavish4445]

@@sewerman911 its lucky kubota and case has the best feul enfishiond wich why id rather buy both kubota and case (y)plus lucky my dealer keeping his price less because he desided not to raise the price up on kubota and case equipment wich hes pretty smart dealer

[@noonespecial1518]

Sub 25hp engines have changed some with Final Tier 4 standards - mostly via timing, spray patterns, etc. The requirements for these engines are not nearly as strict as >25hp engines, mostly from a particulate matter (smoke) standpoint. DPF equipped engines still have a DOC as it oxidizes the fuel injected in the exhaust stream during a regen to burn off the soot in the DPF. DOC-only solutions like Mahinda still use EGR, and likely higher EGR rates, to control their NOx from the hotter cylinder temperatures. EGR is a bigger engine killer than any other type of after treatment. DOC-only solutions can also suffer from poor transient response and have no 'headroom' for any possible, even more stringent, emissions standards.

[@MarkJohnson-pm6cx]

Nice information, look forward to the next video. I bought the 2025r just not to mess with the DEF I'm a retired truck driver and we seemed to always have problems with the new regulations and filter systems.

[@mrgoodwrench1103]

Another good video Tim. Looking forward to the rest of this series. I really liked how you were able to state your opinion without trying to offend anyone. Very well said. We seem to be too sensitive to matters now a days . It reminds me of a quote from Voltaire “I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” Keep up the great work.

[@chrisoswald182]

Good Morning Tim, I'm a diesel mechanic for a large trucking company, and one of our largest cost is DPF issues. I agree 100 percent with everything you said. God Bless!

[@circuitbreaker9001]

Tim I totally agree with you on this. I sure am glad I got the B2650 instead of the B3350. As always the government does not look at the big picture. They like to waste our money

[@mainelyelectric]

I love my B2650!

[@nglpos]

"We've done this to ourselves" So true!

[@andrewanderson1436]

I'm with you on this Tim. Alot of machines are very efficient and don't need all the extra (government) control.

[@gregnewlin1074]

Agree with you Tim! I have been working with Diesel engines before and after Tier 4 Final emissions. I have seen Tier 4 Kubota Diesel engines fail in under 20k hours. Repairs costing the customer 3k to 5k are not uncommon in Tier 4 compliant exhaust systems, and engines upwards of 20k. We currently maintain a fleet of 5.9l Cummins engines without Tier 4 emissions. The maintenance costs are extremely less in those trucks. Some of the Cummins engines achieve 35000 to 40000 hours before major rebuilds or replacement. Point is, from my perspective as a technician, manufacturers scramble to put these emission systems together without a lot of R&D. This causes a great deal of long term maintenance and product failures the end user must pay for. This does not even take into consideration the added fuel costs required to run these newer emission systems. Question of the day is, How can you burn a third again as much fuel and it be cleaner for the environment? Some things in life just do no add up!

[@Itsa_Mea]

Tim, some of these "25hp or

[@andrewslagle1974]

We have done that on several 25 hp orange tractors and have gotten 10 hp reliably on the pto dyno .Adding that 10 hp pto makes a big difference.Ii went from a 4' to a 5'brush hog in the same mowing conditions .It was very easy to do and i did check with a pyro. to make sure turning it up did not create any un due heat /negative aspects.so its a 35 hp tractor now (just what i needed)!

[@mursalot]

@@andrewslagle1974 where can I find info on this. Wouldn’t minding adding 10hp to my L2501

[@ltsnipe292]

Yes I’d like to know this as well

[@ranger6x660]

Tim I’ve had my 33R for a year this month and haven’t had a problem with the regen system. My biggest complaint is the fuel used while it’s in regen mode. Especially with diesel in the $5 a gallon range now.

[@HoneyDoHomestead]

Tim I've watched your channel for a long time, but I gotta say I can't disagree more. The argument of, "why are we trying to save the planet when no one else will" doesn't sit well. I agree with you that the current solutions are a big hassle, and they do add cost to a tractor, but we can't just go back to the way things were. DPF might be the stop-gap we have for now but, without something better to replace it, it's what we have for now. I'd strongly encourage that we keep trying to find a better and more cost effective solution, but growing pains will be there along the way. Just going back in time won't fix today's problems. Dumping our crap in the river might get rid of our... well crap... and be cheaper than installing a state regulated septic system but what about the people drinking from the river downstream? Who's protecting you from the people living upstream of you? I think we can do better than "every man for himself". I don't want to ramble too much, but I'll say this. Reducing or eliminating fossil fuels is more than just that graph you posted. It's about power. Right now, whoever keeps the oil flowing has all the power. When you don't need the oil anymore you take their power away. If the world's petroleum was reserved for high energy machines only (rockets, planes, tanks) and all consumer products moved (or nearly all) away from petroleum, then the US can produce it's own gas and break away from foreign influence. I'd say that a positive thing. As adoption grows and competition follows; like most goods and services, the prices will decline in response. Once the US doesn't need foreign oil anymore it can put economic pressure on places like China to say, "we only do business with green countries" and together with other green countries it will eventually twist everyone's arm to follow. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and a cleaner future won't be either. What is worst that could happen by trying to clean up emissions? We have clean drinking water, and air to breathe.. On the flip side, if we do nothing, and we were wrong to do nothing we all die... 🤷‍♂️ by flood, drought, starvation, or mutiny.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m not suggesting we throw out all attempts to improve. Rather, I’m suggesting moderation. Also, a lot of your comment is about achieving energy independence. We had that just 2 years ago. I agree, we should have kept that direction! Anyway, thanks for watching, and thanks for a thoughtful, reasoned and respectful response.

[@HoneyDoHomestead]

@@TractorTimewithTim yeah energy independence is just 1 small slice of the bigger pie, but related, as emissions only exist because we are burning fuel.

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

Well said!

[@HuserHelpers]

Cat uses both DPF and DOC on a machine. DPF cleans up soot and the DOC addresses NoX with the addition of DEF.

[@indianalivin4139]

I have a Kioti dk5310. It has 230 hours with no issues so far

[@brianshipley7175]

I am a field technician for a cat dealer in pa and emissions is a big big issue in the mining industry i mainly work in a underground limestone quarry teir 4 in the underground is the best thing ever just keeping the underground air quality at a good level but it doesn't come without problems sensor and ecm failures def fluid maintenance and down time are all a cost and concern tempers get flared when these go down however things have got more reliable over the last 6 or so years now with that said out side in the open air things should be different especially when your chart shows the truth keep up the great work God bless

[@RCPSU4]

This looks to be a good series to help anyone out. I'll be taking notes like I'm in class again. One thing which has me curious is the role of blended/straight biodiesel and how it affects exhaust emissions. I know we're probably many years away, but could come eventually.

[@thomasreynolds1503]

Your opinions section is my favorite part! Love the videos.

[@steventhomson2042]

Like you voicing your opinion. I share your views and appreciate your freedom of speech.

[@Bob-vb8lc]

Tim, you have a valid point of view on the emissions issue. I also enjoyed the topic and look forward to the series. God bless

[@daviddodier8845]

I’d like to see one more line on that graph. The ~200k compact tractors sold in the USA’s impact on CO2 globally. You’d probably have to change your scale to see it 😂. I bet my pellet stove is 100x worse than the 100hrs a year I put on my tractor. Oh, whoops, I don’t want to go there…

[@marlondeere3039R]

The one thing I've noticed between my 3320 and my 3039R is the difference in running it inside the shop. You could not run the 3320 very long before the door had to go open but the 3039 I've noticed there being a very big difference.

[@timhood6970]

Spot on, Tim, spot on! With that said, the DOC system, is the main reason I own a Mahindra, and must say, it is a 2016 model 1533 with 600 hrs on it now, and hard hours too, I don't baby it, as a matter of fact, I run a 6ft heavy duty bushhog on it, and the only problem I have had out of it, was one hydraulic line came loose, didn't blow, just came loose at the fitting! I just purchased 80 more acres, so I am going to be needing a bigger tractor now, and have no doubt, that it will be another Mahindra!

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Great info, Tim. I’ve been thinking about this topic for a while. I’ve been seriously considering a sub-25 hp machine with a bigger frame for my next machine. I really want the larger frame size and loader capacity, without worrying about the issues of the new EPA regulations. But at the same time, I don’t want to undersize my next purchase and be disappointed when it could struggle brush hogging up a grade. After a large purchase like a new tractor, I certainly don’t want to have buyer’s remorse. -Chad

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think you’ll be happier with the larger hp machine.

[@rogerbelanger295]

Hey Chad. I got my 2025R based on info from TTWT. I was a little concerned about the small HP. But the self levelling loader increased the loader capacity. I can lift one of those tote cages full of wet 16in stove wood. But the wood was thrown in not stacked. This machine is fine for me. It just takes more time. It's a big decision, so good luck!

[@dustinslanec6747]

I think your situation is very common. And my opinion is that while a few will be happy with the 25 and under HP, most will wish they had gotten the higher HP machine. I started out sub compact then went to a 31 HP (pre emmisions) and now I have a cab 40 HP. I had the first 2 machines at least 5 years each. Good luck and happy shopping!

[@rogerbelanger295]

@@dustinslanec6747 I agree Dustin, The 40hp machine is just the right size. I got the 25hp based on the size of my shed and the size of my budget. I'm semi retired and don't need to be super efficient.

[@dustinslanec6747]

@@rogerbelanger295 Agree. I was able to build a new pole barn last year finally, So i was able to get a new cabbed tractor inside it. before i didnt have the budget for a bigger building or a bigger tractor. I sure enjoyed snow removal this winter in the heated cab!

[@Morpheen999]

I have a neighbor with a B3350, after his warranty was up he ekotuned it.. it is a great running tractor and does not skip a beat..

[@DanielTorres-hu1zq]

Yay, Tim! Knowledgeable, informative, and reasonable. Your opinions and knowledge are very much appreciated. Looking forward to your next video on compact tractors. You explain the complicated simply in this video. I now have a much better understanding of the regen and DOC processes.

[@williamdonovan8187]

Tim, I fully agree and thank you for saying it. California has now passed a law, effective in 2024, prohibiting all "spark ignition" engines 25 horsepower or less. This will have a great effect on such products as string trimmers and chain saws that depend on light weight, often two cycle, engines. For a lot of other applications from cement mixers to generators similar power diesel engines are already available. They are more expensive and weigh more. What the lawmakers did not seem to understand that these small diesel engines generally produce more emissions than the gas engines. Another problem area is emergency generators. These often use natural gas. Natural gas or LP gas engines are still spark ignition and will also be banned.

[@MountainMan104]

I like you more and more every time I watch you. Thanks Tim!!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate you continuing to watch.

[@jamesjenkins7183]

Manufacturers should do what Branson did with the 2515. That motor is the same motor as the 30hp and 35hp models. It is just tuned differently. You will see owners turn those 25hp into over 30hp and not have the filter. You can always add a turbo too right Tim 😂!

[@av1204]

I’ve looked for instructions to tune a 25 to a 35

[@upstategearheads]

My Kioti CK2610 is that way. Its the old 35 HP motor, so nothing but an adjustment in the fuel screw gets you back where you belong (as 38 Special would say)

[@donaldstrishock3923]

Always a Good presentation. You just happen to be at the Most Advanced, Cleanest, Quiest,& Fuel Efficient Tractor Manufacturers Dealership. The Massey-Ferguson system is ALWAYS the BEST. If it is not "PERFECT" they make it better next year! Only the 4707 ( PURE CHINESE) is their only " want-to-be" Massey-Ferguson - just a BIG dumb entry-level unit & cheep in price. The common-rail computer controlled fuel injection, Diesel Oxidation Catalyst and particulate filtering , make for SUPER QUIET Operations & SUPREME Fuel Efficency. The Massey-Ferguson line up SHOULD make up much of your New material on your show! Thanks for the great Vidio Tim & Christy. GBWY.

[@GreenMountainDIYGuy]

Tim’s finally on a real tractor! Go Massey! Looking good!

[@michaelmactavish4445]

massey ferguson the perkins diesel

[@rolling-along]

Tim, the emissions that DPF and Tier 4 are controlling are Particulates, and Nitrogen Oxides respectively. While there are environmental aspects to both of those for global warming etc, the biggest immediate effect of both of those pollutants is negative health effects; Soot/particulates are carcinogenic for starters NO2 and NO3 have respiratory illness consequences And yes also both contribute to “the environment” in the way of soot, smog, acid rain, over notification of soils and ecosystems, and have a global warming potential, that is in the case of NO3 some >300x that of CO2. So is it worth keeping your kids healthy, or is it better to “do it like we’ve always done it?” At some point we have to pay a tax, to protect the natural world and the air we breath for our kids. Otherwise they are going to be paying for it in more than just dollars.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I do not believe it is ‘all or nothing’ as you present it. I think there is middle ground where benefits are achieved at a reasonable cost.

[@magic280z]

Came here to say this. DPF isn't about CO2. Air quality also has more local affect, including the operator, than the global CO2 problem. Covid lockdowns provided valuable evidence cars are having on air quality. Cities that had been covered in smog for decades, very suddenly, had clean air.

[@unclealansyard5176]

So is there really a difference? -Regular engines - burns off -Emmsion controlled - burns of as well. Great video and I agree with what you said!

[@AlexBuker]

Roudenbush is where I bought my GC1723eb last october. I've put almost 80 hours on it already.

[@harmab2]

I'm 100% behind you on the whole green house crap stuff

[@ericritchey9331]

Good video - The only thing I hate about the emissions crap on my machines is having to run them at higher RPMs then I would normally do because of the regen.

[@nclanreimer]

DPF has nothing to do with CO2 emissions it removes soot and other particles from the exhaust that are harmful to human health, think of Asthma like symptoms. Do you remember acid rain? It is pretty much not a thing in North America anymore because of government regulations adding emissions systems and forcing fuel companies to make cleaner burning fuels. If anything emission systems cause more C02 to be emitted because they cause restrictions that means you need to burn more fuel for the same power. So if you want clean air for you and your family to breath you should probably be pro emissions...

[@noral101]

I wish you would do a review of the Massey Ferguson tractors. I think they have a lot to offer. You should do a rental agreement with Massey to use one and make videos, there’s not much on KZbin about them other than dealer salesman saying buy this great tractor.

[@82ndpara21]

I agree with this. They seem like a great tractor. I would say they rival John Deere more than others.

[@RCPSU4]

Seeing they were at a Massey dealer had me hoping one of the mechanics there or a salesperson would've been on.

[@berthongo8531]

How much of the opinion section was edited out? Looked like you were starting to spin up pretty good but wanted to hold back. Love the videos and all the good information and I love the opinion section! Keep up the good work!

[@jamesgray89]

I agree with your opinions .

[@4-LOW]

I bought a new 25 HP compact with hydro trans and loader. 4,000 lbs or more with an implement on the 3-point. I found that it was too much weight for 25 horsepower. Low range was fine. Medium range was ok on level ground. High range was useless. Overall not enough power. I took the tractor back and got the same tractor with 40 horsepower and couldn't be happier. Regen once per 30 hours, tons of power.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This has been my experience as well.

[@hammerandnails73]

Tim, you're looking good on that Massey!

[@michaeldoherty2289]

We are trying to lead the world on emissions reduction. I support our efforts to do that. I think its the moral and responsible action. I understand your logic that this segment of the market is small, but it is a start. Its a road that world needs to proceed down.

[@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981]

We’ve got a 4066r. It regen’s often when we let the machine idle but it doesn’t bother us in the slightest.

[@cg1547]

Tim good take on this subject. I have nothing more to add. Gosh getting closer to planting season :)

[@meds4all]

I agree with your rant. That said. From looking at horsepower requirements and what I wanted to due, I went bigger then I needed. Here's why I want around 35 to 38 horse, now my semi has 605, of that Cummings says, 100 of it is used to now push the exhaust through the d.p.f. system. With that in mind I went with a 3046R. I didn't ask if that 46 is crank or corrected for any lose the filter choking down the system has cause. Pittsburgh power had also gotten to a 0 back pressure exhaust system before these regulations went in place. A gas engine needs some back pressure, a diesel does not. They had 14 liter engines being driven with thought getting 12 mph, in a semi that's a dang good mpg but in a areodynamic truck they were 14 to 16. Now those areo trucks are getting 8 to 9 with all these restrictions in the exhaust and the million mile mark for an engine overhaul is gone. 600,000 is the new mark. And now the overhaul that cost 18,000 is 35,000 ish. In a sense they have turn an over the road truck into a disposable unit as overhaul rebuild cost are nearing half the price of a new truck, done the right right way. Right way being fuel lines, engine, clutch, transmission overhaul plus other parts all at the same time.

[@brandondubon5602]

Tim I’m here for the long run! Everyone has opinions it makes us human ☺️

[@russellg5849]

Problem I see with it is one day when the computer fails or filter needs replaced. Might have a good tractor but can't afford to fix it. There's still 8n's working fields out there. Can't see these new tractors lasting that long

[@warrior4-u]

I fully agree with your opinion on this subject Tim. Thanks for all y’all do!

[@richardstevens3461]

Can't wait for electric tractors!

[@ericlaker1983]

Mr Tim. We just took in another tractor mahindra 2615. Family machine. Still have our 1025 i most certainly will remain a deere fan. The mahindra has some hydraulic work needs done. The loader bucket is jerky not certain As to the cause. In thinking the spool valve is needing attenchion. Not a smooth operation so to speak. Thanks for your video Tim. Love content it something all of us are going through

[@bradleychupp8651]

Happy to see you guys visting Roudebush! I have always had good dealings with them. -GC1723

[@thehawkc]

Oh, one more fact. The EPA was started in the Nixon administration. Facts.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ok. Sorry to trigger you, Cliff. Doesn’t matter to me who (or which party) created the EPA. At this point, I think it is out of control. Again, just my opinion. Thanks for watching!

[@BobsOutdoorActivities]

Good video. I agree with Tim. I own a 2032R with 80 hours on it. It did a regen once. No big deal. Life is short people. Who cares if once every 100 hours my tractor has to do this "regen" thing. Look at what the past 2 years has done to us.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

My 2038r, once every 50 hours. LX3310 every 15 hours.

[@BobsOutdoorActivities]

@@TractorTimewithTim Wow, every 15 hours? Wow. Yes, I expect another regen in 20 more hours or so.

[@E_R_I_K]

I would love it if you could do a series or video about Deere x500 to x700 series garden tractors and similar options for smaller property owners. They are not full on subcompact but do have class 0 three point hitches and attachments.

[@phil-1115]

I am totally amazed at all of the "climate change" scientists and experts that watch your channel Tim. I had no idea. You must feel lucky to have such highly educated geniuses following you.

[@jakesvideos8204]

Sure love my kubota l2501! Super dependable, and no stupid DEF!

[@diamondharp]

I bought a Kioti CK3510 a year ago. It has 64 hours on it currently and has done one regen so far. I’m sure it will do another one soon. Other than cost, I don’t see it as a problem. When it went through the first regen, I just kept working. It did not keep me from doing what I was doing.

[@harbitude]

Tim go man go you are right on it.

[@philsmock4943]

Good video Tim. Thanks for explaining the 25 hp cut off.

[@TimothyNewton]

Thanks Tim, now I want another tractor! Wife won’t be happy. Another great video, always enjoy your videos!

[@tombarnes1871]

Good Morning Tim, I have a Kubota 3350 and have been lucky with my Regen. I do find the process obnoxious, particularly as I use fuel additives to reduce emissions and increase fuel economy. I agree to me under 50hp it really doesn’t have as much value particularly as compared to China and other countries in the world who push much more pollution into the air!!

[@cosmichrist]

Looking forward to the frame size comparison. I'm still stuck looking at the GC1725m

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The frame size episode (and several more) are already out. Check out ‘2022 Compact Tractor Buyers Guide’ playlist

[@iamdrako]

The cost increase in 75plus hp tractors is ruthless. It has also had a major cost addition to older tractors that don't have the same level of emission controls. I would put my two cents forward on the matter, however it would ruin my day. I have had some small issues with my 2016 3046r. All of them are relating to the exhaust system. I haven't had any big out of pocket costs yet, but I know they're coming. Ultimately I think it is a software glitch. The tractor is waiting to long to go into clean mode. It will not go into manual clean. JD does have a 'fix', it's only about $2000. They have been less than forthcoming on what they think the problem is, or what the solution is. During the summer, I run the tractor hard enough that it's not an issue. It's during the winter when I using it for snow removal that I have issues.

[@jamesharless5357]

Great video Tim!👍🏻

[@rexbarrett1643]

Amen Tim, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Thanks

[@samtalley791]

Tim I have to say you have impressed me with the content on your channel. I’ve been following a long time and was afraid eventually you’d run out of quality topics to talk about here and you’d be gone. I’m amazed that your content is still good, relevant, and useful. I’m happy to see that you’ve been able to do that.

[@arthurmaxham4556]

Is it time for an electric tractor that can do the same work as the John Deere 2025R?

[@kentshook3840]

The diesel emissions standards were enacted during the George HW Bush administration in 1991 and started to take effect in 1994. They’ve been progressively phasing in tighter and tighter standards every few years since. The most noticeable changes were ULSD and DEF, which took effect in 2006. The last set of standards currently planned take effect in 2025!

[@margaretportera3553]

Tim we love your analysis of the whole co2 comparison of the US to the rest of the world and the impact our farm equipment makes in the grand scheme of things!

[@russellrogers3260]

I have a Mahindra tractor and have had no issues other than a pto seal. That being said the tractor doesn't like to idle for extended periods of time. I had the check engine light come on a few years ago when practically new because of it. I called the dealer and was told it is because of the exhaust and to just run the rpm up for a bit then when you turn it off it will reset. I have never had an issue other than this a couple times but it makes sense that at idle it isn't creating enough heat so long idles can make it unhappy lol

[@brianlanzini5190]

Don’t get political. There are those of us who appreciate saving our environment. Just don’t wait until you have 2 week planting windows because of warming. Please don’t harp. We love ya but we all have our opinions

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for your perspective. Please don’t paint me with a broad brush. I appreciate our environment too. We just need to be reasonable as well as responsible. There IS middle ground here. At least in my opinion. As always, thanks for watching!

[@marlinguidegun1657]

I think it has less to do with co2 emissions/ global warning than hazards to health. I know that I can’t deal with it in major cities. However, we aren’t operating in urban areas so I’m not sure that it is at all necessary for these small tractors which aren’t operated for long periods anyway. I know that my 25hp tractor exhaust doesn’t bother me at all and I’m very sensitive to such things.

[@briansmith8405]

With the price of everything going up, I’d love you to review some of those Massey Fergusons. I know all the dealer, service, resale arguments but for someone looking at a cab 50-70hp unit the Jd 4066r is 70k + now and this could easily save you 15-20k with more standard features.

[@mooman86]

Being around semis now all day at a repair shop, emissions definitely keep us busy. Makes you wonder how much all this DPF and DEF is actually doing once you factor in all the additional manufacturing/shipping that has to be done for these systems.

[@tommcmillan3143]

Great info Tim, looking forward to your research on the coming videos! Thanks!

[@wink9970]

On May 11, 2004, EPA signed the final rule introducing Tier 4 emission standards, which are phased-in over the period of 2008-2015 [2786] . The Tier 4 standards require that emissions of PM and NOx be further reduced by about 90%.

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

Don't believe Obama was president at this time. Good data thank you.

[@BigTader]

I agree with you Tim this added cost to these tractors is unnecessary.

[@timcaputo714]

Those MFs are good looking tractors. I wish they had a better small and medium frame compact options. Good video looking forward to the series Tim

[@webrbio3153]

I agree Tim!

[@farmallmdiesel]

Also essentially the filters just contain the harmful substances then they have to be cleaned which just releases it at a later time so not sure how it helps not to mention the more fuel burnt

[@oklahomachris6298]

Only thing I can say about DPF is it changes my engine sound on my Deere. And word is in about 5 years I will most likely see problems out of the DPF. We’ll see right?

[@adamstone6123]

That's it not watching you anymore!! Not really I love you Tim! If there was a nicest guy award for KZbin you'd win!

[@edkeyes8061]

Hi Tim, love your channel. This is off topic, but where is the best place to ask a question?

[@KH2PM]

I too agree with your comments regarding global emissions. The USA is very clean overall compared to China and many other large cities that have not adapted any emissions whatsoever over the years.

[@lynnshomestead7545Johnlynn]

Well Tim there are lots of other things that cause global warming like all the forest burning or being harvested. You know it gets hotter when there are less trees. I like all your videos keep up the great work!

[@micktinker]

For interest rerun the CO2 charts per person, rather than by country. China 7.38 tons per person, USA 15.52, India 1.91, Russia 11.44. It’s a little unfair to say we can’t do anything compared to a country with 1.3 billion people, in a country that does a lot of our manufacturing. My point is that each and everyone on the planet needs to reduce their personal carbon output to zero, therefore people in the USA need to reduce by 15.52 tons each per year.

[@MensaP]

I’m wondering why manufacturers and buyers are so enamored with HP when buying a tractor,. The term “peak HP” is just that, the power the engine makes at one specific point in its RPM range. I recently purchased a new, sub-25 HP tractor… many engine choices available, from .9 liter up to 1.6 liter all with “25 HP”. If I could find the dyno charts on these engines, my guess would be the larger displacement 25 HP engine would have a much flatter, and therefore more usable torque curve which would allow the tractor to grunt through tasks that would have a smaller 25 horse tractor struggling.

[@thehawkc]

Okay , facts time. Tier 4 standards were phase in, in 2008 , fully implemented by 2015. Obama 2009.Just the facts. Still going to watch , and I don't even have a tractor. Just remember you brought it up.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for your perspective.

[@phil-1115]

Obama January 2009 to January 2017.

[@thatotherguy338]

I've been looking for a used 25hp tractor for a couple years now. Haven't been able to find one under 13,000 that was legitimate. What's bad is you can almost buy a new one for that price.

[@MerpSquirrel]

On way is a filter that needs to be burned out, and the calaytic system needs heat but uses platinum's and other catalytic metals to cause a chemical reaction in the gases coming out turning them into something less toxic. On gas cars its water and other byproducts. Not sure on diesel. Cataytic systems are more efficient and much easier to maintain.

[@51rwyatt]

So your first observation was about CO2, but I'm not sure diesel regs / regen address CO2 but particulates that contribute to local air pollution and heart/lung impacts. I don't think any of the regulators think the regs address global warming or CO2.

[@taiditoysandgelblasters5119]

I would have liked less emphasis on emissions and a focus on what hp suits what implements or how pto hp between hst and gears means to a greenhorn

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There are more episodes coming.

[@farmboy5622]

Follow the trail of money involved in the emissions decisions. You will find things leading back to various politicians lining their pockets with money from things that are not needed, but they get kickbacks for voting/pushing these things.

[@donbrutcher4501]

I have multiple chemical sensitivity disorder. Surprising to me, the exhaust from my L6060 with regen does not bother me in the least. The exhaust from new big trucks burning blue juice sends me around the bend in minutes. I'm not near pre-emissions equipment enough to determine one way or the other.

[@berkoskilandscaping4247]

Tim, I totally agree with you about all the emissions stuff. They just hinder the ability of whatever diesel it is in and makes them not last as long as they used to, especially in trucks with all the EGR recirculating unburnt exhaust, just builds up carbons inside the engine and halves the life of everything!!!