2022 EDEL SMS IRON REVIEW // Swing Match System Iron Testing

[@keylessdoor5684]

Petition to bring back the good intro from Matt’s days. With the cello and catchy beat.

[@EpicDiehard]

Agreed. This one feels too much like CSI: TXG.

[@BWen3]

@@EpicDiehard lmao.

[@JRC1653]

Agreed

[@patrickbarter]

Yup-I skip past intro now. Actively don’t like listening to it.

[@kourt2469]

Haha yeah this one feels like a cheap golf channel tips intro

[@paulkielwasser481]

Was part of a group that tested the prototype at Edel HQ and to hit five shots each with the weights in the different ports was eye opening. All of the things y’all talked about like droop, etc were affected, not JUST strike point. Add-in shaft change, lie, etc that you mention and the experience was eye-opening. Edel has always been ahead of the curve as far as REAL technological change and so many “poo-poo” what they do because they’re not a big OEM, but watch how this moveable weighting is adapted by the big boys…

[@DaneChivers1993]

The intro is such early youtube style. The hard rock music and compilation. Not my fave but not a big deal 🤷‍♂

[@travis3889]

these clubs are the real deal! I have four of the SMS wedges with the weight in the toe, and they are a game changer

[@biggregg5]

Ian's tempo is something to behold. Alway seems to be in control....never off balance.

[@evandh1989]

Ian has always looked herky jerky to me. Matt’s was much smoother and fluid.

[@ianfrasergolf]

@@evandh1989 are you still here!! 🚪

[@blakee9774]

Dont know if anyone will read this but I would love to see Ian review 4 models of iron that I have found to be absolutely fantastic and believe that many golfers would enjoy immensely. I have listed them in order of the "wow" factor I have experienced from each including what I have played personally and cannot seem to kick out of my bag no matter what I try. I will start with them at number 1. Fourteen TC-777 4-PW Endo forged cavity backs that for a forged iron with no frills and both a fairly thin top line and fairly little offset are incredibly easy to hit and incredibly long with a 42, yes a 42 degree PW! The 4 iron plays like a 2 iron distance wise and a 7 iron as far as difficulty to hit. I weakened the lofts in mine by a couple degrees each but left the 4 iron stock because it is just nice to have as an alternative off the tee. For the 5-15 handicapper like Ian mentioned these Edel clubs suited the Fourteen are amazing especially if the golfer is a good ball striker but not a long hitter as they are essentially two clubs longer than standard but be ready to be amazed at how high they go despite the strong lofts. 2. ONOFF KURO 2015 - these irons are as nice feeling as they are beautiful to look at, not sure of the lofts but they are probably quite strong and as soft as anything I have ever tried. I know there is a ton of tech that goes into these irons but the one thing that stands out with them is that the ONOFF logo which is basically a square shape and is displayed on the back of each forged iron head except the square is made of tungsten i believe and you will notice that the square on the back of each head in the cavity is in a different spot on each iron for example the 4 iron head you can only see a corner of the square but the whole square is there its just the rest of the tungsten square is buried along the sole in the 4 making the C of G super low and makes it easy to get in the air and the square logo of tungsten continues to move up on the back of the cavity so in the pw the square is totally at the top of the cavity near the top line which most likely is to prevent the pw from going straight up instead it has a more boring trajectory. These ONOFF's are incredible and the Kuro line in 2011 and 2013 are also amazing but the 2015 stands out to me because of the looks and the logo strategic tungsten placement. 3. Callaway Legacy Black otherwise known as "the Stensons" because they were famously played by Henrik Stenson for many years. These irons do everything extremely well as far as looks, playability, feel, etc. I feel that they are not the best iron in any category but they are close to the best in every category, very nice to play and would love to hear Ians opinion on these as well as the first two sets mentioned. 4. Lastly, the Edel Variable length irons that I do not believe are made by the company anymore but I sure as hell do not know why because in my experience the clubs that Dechambeau himself used to win the NCAA championship are freaks of nature as far as how they look, how they feel, how they play. These clubs are forged but have a totally different feel than other forged irons like the first three models on this list. They have a feel all their own and that feel is wonderful plus they are so unique looking and have a razor sharp sole that imo makes them the finest irons to play from thick rough or sand or whatever as they just seem to slice the ball out of a tough lie like a razor. Turf interaction with these irons are fantastic! Well that is the list oh man it would be exciting to see Ian smash a few shots with each of these sets of irons and to hear his feedback and opinion on them. I think if he has not tried some or all of these irons that he will be amused if not shocked by what he experiences. Thanks TXG!

[@wajopek2679]

Having the ability to change swing weights in the head does work. I recently had a PXG fitting and changing the head weight made a detectable difference. It takes a great fitting to a tailor made great fitting.

[@jminisci]

Head weight makes a big difference for sure but these weights change the face angle. PXG weights just adjust swing weight and cannot be changed by the player and pxg doesn't sell them. These weights actually change the club like a driver. Can't wait to get my set based on my fitting.

[@frankperez526]

@@jminisci The weights don’t change the face angle. It just makes it draw or fade bias. PXG can do that too. The center weight is used to change the overall weight of the head. The smaller weights on the toe and heel can be changed to make the club draw or fade bias. It also makes the club head more forgiving.

[@jminisci]

@@kvgolfa meant to say face to path.

[@jminisci]

@@frankperez526 it may look like that but pxg weights don’t work like that. Plus they don’t sell them or want people moving them. Hence why Ian said there aren’t other irons that do what these do. More concentrated mass being moved vs pxg pushing weight around perimeter achieve different things.

[@williampugh8758]

Man, I can’t wait to see what that toe weight will do for me. Seems like it straightened Ian out quite a bit. Take my money!

[@ryang1910]

I’m looking to make golf easier. I want a forgiving iron. I don’t mind some size. It doesn’t have to look like a blade. I just want not much offset. Also not a crazy thick sole. The sole width matters

[@rayford7319]

Great review Please can you review the edel one length irons . Thanks

[@troyrambo6804]

I have and love the wedges. They are fantastic, These look equally as awesome. May have to try them soon. Great video.

[@Jjwalways70]

What a great addition to the channel is Mac , excellent ball striker and charismatic for the videos , im trying to source those RM 14 s Ian they look awsome , still playing the ltd edition miura y grinds , i like thin soles and no offset , just works for me my favourite clubs and best scoring irons to date have been my old nike blades . Cant beat them yet , traditional lofts would love just a little more ummf .

[@kainegri586]

New intro is 🔥🔥Ian, great review as always

[@ianfrasergolf]

Thanks brother!!

[@robcoates5253]

The more I learn about Edel, the more I like it. I hope these make it into the matrix!

[@DaveFogel]

I think these irons look fantastic. I didn't realize the 7 was so chunky though. My local store is an EDEL fitter, so hope to try them soon.

[@davidyang1248]

Please bring back the old intro. Even my girlfriend knew I’m watching TXG when she heard that song

[@ianfrasergolf]

No, sorry David. We really like the new intro.

[@TZOID08]

Edel is tough because there are next to know fitters so it's a Rolling of the dice when spending $$$ on their products. They are in good company with this problem.

[@stevenrobertson1416]

I feel the spin numbers also reflect that weight change altering the delivery and deflection. I don't think I'm sold yet (love their putters) BUT this very well may be our starting point 🤷

[@nickcassidy693]

Great swinging Ian. cool review

[@ianfrasergolf]

Thank Nick!! 👊🏼

[@marcuszettergren8885]

This is an awesome video and touches something that many can really have use of. Would a follow up with your standard blade and a somewhat ghetto led tape be possible? The delta here is 6 grams, so use 6 grams of led and move it to the three positions on the blade. Then you can bend the clubs lie to your preference. Especially if you are looking for a higher apex. Obviously the turf comes into play here. Long and moisty fairways aren't really adviceable conditions with a toe down. Maybe the Srixon with their sole could be a perfect candidate.

[@johnk.atchley5079]

Just saw this demo on the day that Club Champion announced they have the Edel SMS Pro irons for fitting. Hope you can do a demo on them. Interesting while the SMS Pro is a forged blade, not hollow, the lofts are the same with 32 degree 7 iron.

[@lawbinson]

My favorite of the Bear hats by far

[@Chewyness]

I definitely prefer watching Ian “Gavin” hit versus anyone else he just has the most normal swing that I can relate to

[@Brewtal2009]

wonder if the fact the head weights can be changed lend themselevs to becoming edels new single length head also

[@blackbdmillsaps7019]

I feel like I would just be messing with weights constantly. Anytime my strike was off for a round I would be tempted to start moving the weights around. Would not be good for me I think

[@billcoulter1984]

Very interesting irons and data

[@highlanderthegreat]

what does sound have to do with the clubs,does sound affect the club??? are they single length clubs as well

[@davidmuriel7149]

Would love to get fit for some one day

[@CoryLancasterYT]

They look great! But, moving the weight to the toe/heel is assuming that the golfer is actually skilled enough to repeat strikes in those locations. If someone can't hit the middle-ish repeatedly, will they be able to hit the toe or heel consistently? If not, wouldn't they see an even worse drop-off than usual w/the CG being further away from their strike? Still though, they are beauts!

[@smkgolf]

Movement of that many grams is not going to shift CG as significantly as you seem to believe. The weight is not supposed to be moved based upon strike location, it's moved based upon steering force and how you deliver the club. We won't shift you to a toe weight just because you strike it out on the toe, that is more likely fit through length.

[@tbGTR]

GC Quad owner here...is there any reason you guys are putting the middle fiducial dot lower on the toe side of the club?

[@evansnyder5948]

The golfworks KE4 irons have had this tech in them for about 30 years now seems to have worked for them. Would be cool to see ke4, pxg, edel with their movable weight tech in similar configs and performance/workability potential. Also it would be a comparison of price factor, is more expensive more better? Ke4 heads start at $25 usd

[@ermangus]

With heavy weight in toe and perhaps 1-2 degrees flat would that bump swing weight upwards?

[@nealfreeman01]

So what is the impact of lie angle and the weights in the back? You could go 2 degrees up and have the weight and the toe and hit high fades.

[@legend9018]

Really cool design but obviously even though this club may be designed for mid handicap players you probably need a pretty consistent swing to reap the full benefits of a toe or heel weight placement.

[@jeremylonsdale3350]

Would like to have seen the weight shifted with the 4 iron. Makes more sense coz it's a harder club to hit. Love the new intro.

[@BloodySoup74]

Not really. It's the same length as the others.

[@jeremylonsdale3350]

@@BloodySoup74 different loft though so different launch. 👍

[@BloodySoup74]

@@jeremylonsdale3350 plus you need a little speed for lower lofted clubs

[@tonymoss2484]

I had better sell my shares in that lead tape company 😯 These look good, PXG are the other brand out there doing this. Lets see if they introduce a better player model.

[@Eqnotalent]

They need this in one length also.

[@davidchipman7612]

dont PXG have some thing like these with moveable weights or screws ?

[@dashtaylor7503]

Throwing my vote in the camp of "ditch the horrific new intro"

[@ianfrasergolf]

Eh no and it’s not a vote, it’s staying!! 😁

[@imanolarrillaga6923]

Some kzg irons do the same

[@dannytran173]

Why don’t you guys review PXG anymore?

[@ianfrasergolf]

We’re working on it.

[@SvingitGolf]

Is that MOI matching?

[@stacks4943]

What’s with the new intro..?

[@sstaley74]

Ian talking about Taylormade making a iron with a rail. Tommy Amour who did it 10 years ago. "Am I a joke to you". lol

[@ianfrasergolf]

That’s why we often say there’s no such thing as new technology.

[@banditbaker1675]

Isn't this similar to what PXG are doing with their GEN5 Irons?

[@ITS_BOBBY47]

The center weight only on the PXG Gen4/5 is used to adjust swingweight...the toe/heel weights are not changed as they could be in the Gen2/3.

[@rickyj0112]

When are we getting the 2022 golf bracket tournament with matty

[@ianfrasergolf]

Ricky sorry to break the news but Matt left the channel 8 months ago!! 😂

[@rickyj0112]

@@ianfrasergolf ya was hoping for a special appearance haha, love the content regardless! Keep it up guys

[@ianfrasergolf]

@@rickyj0112 thanks brother!!

[@FF04RDF]

Where is Matty and RB ? Have I missed something?

[@Joey1970T]

Matt left and has his own golf channel. RB did too, but not sure what he’s doing but it was amicable

[@benparfitt1806]

Bring back the old intro. 🤟

[@ianfrasergolf]

Nope, time for a change Ben. We’re never going to please everyone by using a new intro song but that’s ok.

[@benparfitt1806]

@@ianfrasergolf I just think you can do better. It's a bit tacky and cheesey. It's very 'corporate'. Maybe its the buy out and in line with what they do? I think you guys are a class above that and can do better 🤷‍♂️

[@FLefty18]

Those are purdy.

[@iansullivan3547]

New intro is SICK!

[@PbD187]

Can you not move the weights around in PXG irons?

[@erickatch4149]

I don't believe so once set by the factory. Plus it is just the center weight

[@PbD187]

@@erickatch4149 their 0311 line has a lot of little screws (weights?) just didn't know if that was a moveable weight or more for looks or what.

[@Sapperjoel1984]

Love Macs IG and I love Ian on this channel but that intro is... yikes. Camera does not need to be that close to Mac either its like hes eating it hahaha!

[@keithfinley2939]

Price vs. PXG?

[@Shipwreck15151]

I believe an Edel set of irons is around $2k

[@brianminnotte9688]

Ashton Kutcher now doing golf!!!

[@dscwac396]

bring back the old intro

[@gavincharvey33]

I used to love watching the TXG videos mainly for Matt's testing and Ian's expertise, but I haven't watched it since Matt left, listening to Ian Fraser drone on is tedious. Jesus mate make it more spontaneous and fun

[@MacBoucherGolf]

Gavin no wine is forcing you to watch man. No one likes change. We are all doing our best to bring good videos

[@MacBoucherGolf]

No one**

[@gavincharvey33]

No disrespect to the all new guys macboucher, I think Ian Fraser has made it monotonous, lacking any fun or spontaneity. It's the first video I've watched in months and months and wont be watching any time soon

[@evandh1989]

Have to agree. I have watched only a handful of videos since Matt left. What I’m seeing now are videos that are not nearly as lively, nor even as interesting despite Ian clearly knowing his stuff. Since Mac has chimed in here, I’ll add that what Matt added (and what the show is clearly missing now) is a very genuine inquisitiveness-he asked Ian down to Earth and practical questions about what he and Ian were seeing and how that would impact the average golfer. Ian would respond with very technical information, but because Matt asked his questions in such lay terms, Ian was digestible and seemed even somewhat relatable. Now though, it’s just Ian talking and talking, and he outweighs everyone else on the show. There’s no balance any more, and little real back and forth.

[@bradsimpson4899]

I kind of agreed when Matt first left (my fault for being short sighted), but I've come to appreciate what TXG is now. I also love watching Matt's channel. Let's at least appreciate that now we have 2 great golf channels to watch! Keep the videos coming. FYI, I live around the corner from the Titleist Performance Institute in Oceanside (where you just finished a livestream a couple of hours ago) and would love to run into you in downtown Oceanside tonight! I'll keep my eyes open. If you wanna drop a hint on here about where you'll be, I'd love it!!!!!!

[@briannelson1784]

Can’t believe you never mentioned pxg irons these look an absolute rip off

[@erickatch4149]

Yeah not even close bro.

[@chrisgilligan4968]

So many people moaning about the intro, or format or personnel....even blasting Ian's swing. Thoughtful and meaningful feedback I get - but just writing a comment to bitch or whine about something - wth? If life's so crappy that you need to whine about a 15 second musical intro to a golf video then maybe you need some counselling or something. TXG is a business - staff come and stay for a period of time and then they go on to other things. If you just came to watch these vids to watch Matty bomb drivers - then go check out his channel....he's still bombing drivers. Like one comment already said - if you don't like the content, nobody is forcing you to watch.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Who’s blasting my swing????? 😂

[@chrisgilligan4968]

@@ianfrasergolf 🤣🤣Read a comment that I believe said something like your swing was "herky jerky" and lamented missing Matt's smooth swing. I'm not used to seeing this much whining in the comments of TXG content!

[@paulbooij7594]

Cool idea, irons look ugly.

[@mikerodrick2430]

PXG ripoffs.

[@Nyasha33]

You can get a new set of PXG gen 4 for under $2000 these are $2k so the PXG’s are well priced

[@mikerodrick2430]

@@Nyasha33 For that price, the clubs should swing themselves. If I remember correctly, the driver at 1 time was $800. Sure, give me a dozen. People will pay any amount if they believe the manufacturer hype. Fools & their money. $575 for a Stealth driver? Give me a dozen of those as well. Golf equipment is a scam & gets worse every year.

[@mre_man]

Pxg ripoffs.

[@codycarter4792]

How so? You can't move the weights in the PXG irons. Unless you are saying the Taylormade P790 is the ripoffs.