2022 Emtb Shootout - Specialized Turbo Levo Expert Review

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The Loam Wolf

The Loam Wolf

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@LevoRider
@LevoRider Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the expert, 2700 bucks off, I couldn’t resist. Thanks for the review, between you, Sam’s and Rob bikes reviews it seems like the best bang for the buck.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new rig and hope you enjoy it!!
@Chris-mx4jb
@Chris-mx4jb Жыл бұрын
you're going to love it. nice work holding off and getting that discount.
@LevoRider
@LevoRider Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-mx4jb I have had it go a little more than a week and I can’t believe how much better it is than my other bike. The geometry is so much better, it climbs up techy hills it rips down chunk and it jumps like an rabbit. Super happy with it, I was thinking of the 2023 Orbea Wild but I am glad I pulled the trigger on the Specialized.
@Chris-mx4jb
@Chris-mx4jb Жыл бұрын
@@LevoRider awesome to hear. keep it out of turbo when jumping/going through big chunk/while in the small cogs over rough terrain... all things i have learned the hard way
@mesabman
@mesabman Жыл бұрын
Great deal! I got the Levo Turbo S-Works for $3500 off!
@davidburgess937
@davidburgess937 Жыл бұрын
I was that rider with the bad geometry on my old Stumpjumper, it was not inspiring and was at times was too much work to enjoy. Today I was able to experience the new Turbo Levo and having the front tire pushed out was amazing! Riding around Phoenix, Arizona I had to say, “rocks, what rocks?” Your explanation for older bikes was spot on! All hail the new geometry!!
@marklopez5267
@marklopez5267 2 жыл бұрын
Feel like this review went just about how I expected it to go. A few of my close riding buddies have recently purchased either a Levo or Kenevo and they all love them. This review by The Loam Wolf crew just solidified my decision to buy the Levo Alloy Comp haha! Hard to argue that Specialized isn't on top of the EMTB game right now, even if it comes at a premium price. Thanks for the great content!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words Mark. Hope you enjoy the bike and we're honored to hear you value our opinion.
@barryholt3526
@barryholt3526 2 жыл бұрын
I've just got the levo comp alloy. I demullted it and added the -1 cup, swapped the stem out to a 30mm reach one and it is quite literally perfection. I'm 5'9" and went with the S3.
@regularMattMatt
@regularMattMatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@barryholt3526 so you swap your stem to 30mm? Dont you feel cramped on it? Im 5’8 and stock S3 feels like tight.
@barryholt3526
@barryholt3526 2 жыл бұрын
@@regularMattMatt well I've not had it long. Just over a week and 50 miles. I've done 40 miles commuting on road and 10 miles on jump/flow trails. I actually find it perfect with the 30mm stem on. I'm not the most flexible person so when doing long straights I prefer to be more upright. On the flow/jump trails I find it to be extremely well balanced with that set up. I'd definitely be giving it the 10/10 with the few changes I've made.
@barryholt3526
@barryholt3526 2 жыл бұрын
@@regularMattMatt I also find my wanting more rake in the bars on my commute. Not so much on the down hills.
@DavidFDay
@DavidFDay Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your positive review of this bike. I have the exact bike and love it.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 2 жыл бұрын
good to see the levo dominating the competition once again with its overall package, which no other emtb has been able to achieve
@abelramos8983
@abelramos8983 2 жыл бұрын
Cut that shit dude. The best ebike is the one you find yourself more safe more faster or more confortable depends on you demands. Every ebike is diferently tuned for that. These guys just describes the ebikes and then give their personal veredict they not sentence nothing (thats why we love them)
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 2 жыл бұрын
@@abelramos8983 incorrect. Once again. It is nice to see the levo annihilate the competitors.
@grazstarr
@grazstarr Жыл бұрын
@@HarryKuloh wrong.
@Alexander-fu1zd
@Alexander-fu1zd 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Loving this series, been waiting a year since the last one and not disappointed . Top work lads!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear it and thank you so much!!
@AB-NZ
@AB-NZ 2 жыл бұрын
Well, based on this review, and yesterday’s meh review of the trek rail, I just bought the turbo Levo expert. Found one available now in my preferred size. And cancelling my order of the trek rail 9.8 XT. Much more $$ than I would wish, but….oh well. At my advancing age, you quickly come to realise that life is short and you only live once.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Well you only live once is right, and we hope you enjoy that new bike! Let us know how it goes and pop some wheelies for us.
@AB-NZ
@AB-NZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf me? Wheelies? I wish. Just can’t quite get crack the code. But happy to let you guys know how I fare with the new set of wheels. Or better still, make a trip to New Zealand and discover mtb heaven 🤔🤪😁. Steep and tech. Even for old codgers like me!
@thebigbail
@thebigbail 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered an expert S4 from their online store. Supposed to ship soon… we will see. Planning to use it to while my old knees recuperate, then maybe hop on the old enduro.
@xmrbones9577
@xmrbones9577 2 жыл бұрын
I got my Gen 3 Levo Expert Carbon today, upgraded to SRAM Axis otherwise stock. I have a Rail 9.7 also and can attest the Levo suspension and geometry is far superior. Power wise is very similar, and it’s not a fair comparison spec wise bit the Levo is on a whole different level of ride quality.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday Жыл бұрын
Pulling the trigger on a Comp Carbon this week. Thanks for all the great videos and feedback on bikes
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
Have fun and thanks for watching!! Congrats on the new bike.
@andersonsridebikes
@andersonsridebikes 2 жыл бұрын
I own this exact model, and I love this bike. I installed an EXT E-storia coil shock on it, and it didn't dramatically improve its performance. I put the float x2 back on the levo and installed the coil shock on my stumpy evo. The stumpy evo benefits much more from the coil than the levo does because the levo has so much grip and supple feel with the air shock that a coil really isn't necessary.
@chawkins45ify
@chawkins45ify 2 жыл бұрын
Mine came with a basic float X performance so I ordered a cane creek kitsuma. I almost paid the extra for the ext but I kept thinking the bike feels really good even with the basic shock, I just wanted a little more adjustability. I have a stumpy evo as well and may try the ext on that
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Solid moves all around there!!
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120
@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 2 жыл бұрын
What about a Push Eleven Six? They come custom tuned!
@andersonsridebikes
@andersonsridebikes 2 жыл бұрын
@@chawkins45ify good move. You will like the Cane Creek on there!
@andersonsridebikes
@andersonsridebikes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 ext shocks are also custom tuned for the bike, rider weight/skill level, and the terrain. I don’t think the marginal performance gain is worth the investment, unless you are doing massive descents in hot climates. I do have a push elevensix on a different bike though and I love that shock.
@rickbault1221
@rickbault1221 2 жыл бұрын
My good friend bought the same Gen 3 Levo in February 2022. I currently have a Gen 2 with over 2100 trouble free Az. Rocky desert miles. After riding his Gen 3 I immediately noticed that it's more supple and progressive. It feels a bit lighter. Steers great and is very stable. My Gen 2 is really good after suspension upgrades. The Gen 3 is better.
@trenthamlin5589
@trenthamlin5589 2 жыл бұрын
It was a 2 year wait for a rail, I decided to get a levo comp alloy and had it within 7 days. I’m so thankful I decided to shell out the extra money
@chawkins45ify
@chawkins45ify 2 жыл бұрын
It hurt at the time of buying my alloy comp when I could have spent a few hundred more and got a carbon bike from another company, but this bike is so good and even with it being alloy it's the same weight or lighter then other companies carbon bikes. A 170mm fork really unlocks the bikes potential and running narrower tires with a stiffer casing
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Cry once as they say!
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 2 жыл бұрын
I found one of these, same spec and colour, in stock and in my size. It’s at a shop about 6 hours drive away and I would need to take a ferry there and then back again. Really tempting to do the road trip but I dunno. I’d have to sell my heavily modified 2019 carbon Stumpjumper and my 2021 Commencal Meta Power SX Race to get it but I think I’d be happier overall. Someone convince me that it’s a good idea!
@steve4296
@steve4296 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I couldn’t agree more. I own the same bike in the black raw colour, awesome by the way, and I’m blown away with the all round performance. It does everything exceptionally well. I live in British Columbia Canada where the terrain is chunky, steep and gnarly, and this bike just eats it up. I am considering the cascade link though. Adds 10 mm of rear travel and makes it even more supple off the top and ramps up progression from 20% to 28% to help with bottom out. This is the first emtb I’ve owned and is hands down the best bike I’ve owned. I should mention that everyone should do an air damper service on their “ brand new “ fox fork, as most are packed with grease from the factory which degrades performance greatly. After the air damper service the fork is more supple off the top with superior mid stroke and end stroke support. I had to run five volume reducers pre-service, now I only need two. Cheers guy’s and keep up the great work.
@AB-NZ
@AB-NZ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Have you put on that cascade link you mentioned? If you have…. Any advice on how it performs? Cheers
@steve4296
@steve4296 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-NZ No sorry I haven’t yet. I was put on leave without pay for many months by my employer because I wouldn’t take the experimental drugs. Maybe in the near future I will be able to order one.
@klemenmihelcic3320
@klemenmihelcic3320 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, am contemplating buying the 2023 model (are there out yet?) but fear 2024 is the year gen4 is unleashed, what do you think?
@davenawahine4428
@davenawahine4428 2 жыл бұрын
I must ride tighter trails, but changing the cup out and pulling the front in a degree really wakes up the handling.
@brivera25able
@brivera25able 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you are going to be doing and "SL" version of the shootout in the near future?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Not until more brands come out with SL's. Right now it's essentially levo SL vs. Rise, which we did a video on last year I believe. Sure, there is the Kenevo SL but it's in its own category.
@brivera25able
@brivera25able 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf thanks! Kinda weird question, but I live on the SF Bay Area, do most of my riding in Santa Cruz. I can only afford to have 1 bike, would you pick the Rise, the Levo SL or the Kenevo SL?
@byronswogger
@byronswogger 2 жыл бұрын
Love my pro! Only upgrade i did was trp gold dhr Evo brakes!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
The only upgrade it needs!
@cardiacpa
@cardiacpa Жыл бұрын
I just got one yesterday. I bought a used Levo SL and knew pretty quickly it was a mistake. Not enough power to pull you out of steep hills. Im certain I made the right 2nd choice on this expert.
@arrowv1
@arrowv1 Жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado. Is it safe to leave the battery in the bike while it’s sits in a hot or very cold garage? What do others do?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
We leave our batteries in 99% of the time. Oregon sees a very similar climate as CO. With garage Temps in the 20s to 90+ depending on time of year, we've never seen a problem thus far. However our garage is finished/insulated so temps do stay fairly well controlled. Battery manufacturers do suggest you remove battery, for example if you're leaving it in a very hot car, or really hot shed/garage that's not insulated. (temps over 100 degrees inside) is where we'd start worrying.
@thim8009
@thim8009 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted a gen 3 so bad I sold my Gen 2 carbon expert to get aluminum comp. I put a 170 mm 38 performance elite on it. It worked out that I needed a lower end fork for a loaner bike I'm building up.
@johnmorrison27
@johnmorrison27 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike it’s a fantastic piece of kit, I upgraded the tyres to DH casings still specialized and put a SRAM AXS seat post and rear mech to finish it off, along with de restricting it of course 👍
@thax0r172
@thax0r172 Жыл бұрын
For people complaining about the geo, isn't it able to adjust quite a bit?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
Extremely adjustable!
@harlemric1238
@harlemric1238 Жыл бұрын
Bought this baby today for 7000€ in Germany. Couldn't resist with that price tag. So looking forward to riding it
@yofoo138
@yofoo138 Жыл бұрын
Man the new 2023 is specced very good with a good price as well
@tp23232
@tp23232 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. What is your opinion if comparing this EXPERT to the PRO model you have long tested ... differences in performance and ride quality? Do you think that the additional carbon parts and some gold bling is worth the extra cash, or better take that cash and make some upgrades to the expert (brakes, axs,...)? Thanks
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Save the cash and upgrade as you see fit! Shoot, i'd maybe go so far as buying an even more affordable version and upgrading. Of course then you run into the issue of being able to FIND the parts you want to upgrade too...
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the finale. Great reviews Thanks.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It’s gonna be good!
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf Gen3 Turbo Levo was on top of my list. Went 2022 Reign E+ for price and availability.
@marklopez5267
@marklopez5267 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeanmarc_in_Hudson how are you liking the Reign so far?
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson
@jeanmarc_in_Hudson 2 жыл бұрын
@@marklopez5267 Hi Mark, my (other than stated above) reason for selecting the Reign was geometry. 2022 Reign with flipchip in “High" position, has a very similar geometry to the Gen3 Levo which I liked. I have about 300 km so far and it has been a good choice for me. I’m older rider, occasional jumps, I don’t whip it, 😊 but the bike sure can! This is my second e-mtb, geometry was my first selection criteria.
@dustenlapointe9121
@dustenlapointe9121 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Levo, tentative motor questionability aside, it’s confidence inspiring, great looking, adaptable, and has the best display integration.
@johnyates6753
@johnyates6753 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are the riders please?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
5'11-6'2
@struds24
@struds24 2 жыл бұрын
The wait is frustrating I have had an Expert on order since Feb and apparently due in next couple of weeks, can't wait!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong. It will be worth it.
@staccatoglock
@staccatoglock 2 жыл бұрын
For $11k……they should send you TWO
@mikechar8658
@mikechar8658 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! Had my 22 Turbo Levo Expert recently stolen and thinking about moving to the pro. Since you rode both and if you didn’t care about the money would you upgrade? I loved the thousand or so miles I put on the Expert. Thanks
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Bummer to hear about the bike, Mike. Tough question, in all likelyhood, if we had the money for the Pro, we would save the $2,000 and go with the Expert. Taking what we saved and upgrading certain pieces of spec like the brakes and wheels to stuff we like more than what Specialized equips on either model. Then just enjoy the bike and upgrade other aspects as needed as time goes on. That said, you wouldn't go wrong by just going with the Pro and taking the same upgrade approach down the road.
@paulpapandrea
@paulpapandrea Жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, Thanks for all you do! Your reviews and analysis have been really helpful in helping me get back into all this and get up to speed on the E-Bike Scene especially! So my question is “a littlea” redundant in that it has been addressed in an earlier comment, but what has changed is the recent Specialized Summer Sale. Basically there is a $1250 difference between the 22 Pro Spec and 22 Expert Spec that you have had experience with. When there was a several thousand dollar difference between them it sure made it easier to settle in on the Expert. However, with the price getting so close between them (Pro $9500/Expert $8250) and what seems like a $1000 reduction/$1000 Sale on 23 Spec Expert…..Are Carbon Wheels/ Fox Factory/RSC Brakes/Carbon Bars/X01 worth $1250? No matter what it’s all a ton of $$ even with the summer sale? Of course the 23 Expert blurs the line even more with E-Shifting (plus another cool color to chose from I spoke) sits almost in the middle of the other two……..thoughts?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf Жыл бұрын
By no means will you have less fun on the Expert, BUTTTTT, if the Pro is in your budget, the colors make you happy, you seem more enthused or excited about it, then there are some performance enhancements. Again, will they make you minutes faster? No. But discerning riders can feel the subtleties and that may be worth it, provided the funds don’t put you in a tight spot! Either way, you’ll be stoked though.
@paulpapandrea
@paulpapandrea Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf Thank you so much for the reply! So here it is……I placed an order yesterday for a Turbo Levo XXXX (:)). It came down to the 23 Expert (Absidium Gold I think they call it) which has the SRAM GX ASX group or the 22 Pro with the SRAM XO1 cable group…………There is a +$500 dollar difference for the pro! This is no longer about the money and my dealer took care of me for sure! The problem is I am second guessing my decision which was made kinda because I was standing in the bike shop! I have time to switch between one of the other until Monday! I don’t want to say which way I went because I am seriously weighing the Electronic Shifting upgrade vs Carbon Wheels, Kashima Coating on Suspension, Carbon Bars, RSC Brakes. Again…..I am not trying to figure out which one will make me “better”…it wont! I’m just trying to figure which one is money better spent! E-shifting or Carbon Wheel Set/Carbon Bars/Kasima/RSC Brakes for +$500? Sigh….I freely admit its a wonderful problem to have, but without having the experience its harder than I thought. It’s my first E-Bike but I am a long time Motocross guy (turned 55 yesterday). I do have an opinion on Color though…but I didnt let that sway my pick. Lol! So any further opinions are welcome! Thanks again for all you guys do…..really enjoy your content! PaulP
@Hemsworthyclub
@Hemsworthyclub Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between a comp 21 frame and this 22 expert
@m3drivr
@m3drivr Жыл бұрын
The 21 is non adjustable and runs on 29” wheels. This one has 6 possible geo combinations plus its a mullet set up.
@ernst_42
@ernst_42 2 жыл бұрын
May you describe the noise feeling of the faulty motor unit in detail please? Rode mine today cant tell if it should be that noisy as it is.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to describe would be a coffee grinder in slow motion, if that makes sense. The new motor was dead silent, quite a difference.
@grrlewis1
@grrlewis1 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to read a really great review of my new ebike. Big cost partially justified. Shame it’s gonna be in the shed for the next 3 months as I recover from the Grade 3 AC joint disruption I sustained last week going too quickly (into a tree). It really is a fantastic bike & goads you into pushing your limits. I found mine.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that's a bummer to hear. We wish you a speedy recovery! On a positive note, atleast your levo can be used as a tool for PT when the time comes.
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts 2 жыл бұрын
Does specialized use a rose sourced motors?
@BSE75
@BSE75 2 жыл бұрын
final one of mondraker yeti and speci ? :P excited
@robgoffroad
@robgoffroad 2 жыл бұрын
I got the cheap one (the base model) and LOVE it. If I had the cash, the Expert would be my pick, but really, is 3-4 lbs really worth $6000? If this is ALL you do, or you race, maybe so. But for a casual rider, no. I can buy another nice toy with that extra money, like a motorcycle, a used quad, heck a really nice non-electric mtb (and still have cash leftover).
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 Жыл бұрын
So has anyone compared the Expert to the S-Works model with its carbon wheels and bars ect ? Is that going to be a less compliant ride with the carbon wheels do you know ?
@K1ngJame5-mtb
@K1ngJame5-mtb 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at the turbo levo and want to know if the motor rattles on the descents like the shimano ep8? I have a bullit and the ep8 rattle is getting on my last nerve. Great review as always. Keep it up guys !
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 2 жыл бұрын
No rattles. The Levo uses a Brose motor which has *90* nM of torque, and does not have the rattling motor issue that the competitors have.
@ChrillePavlin
@ChrillePavlin 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t, it’s completely silent going downhill and has a low pith whine going upphill thats non offensive if you ask me.
@Kendubious
@Kendubious 2 жыл бұрын
You guys were not so gushing over the levo sl when you ran it against the Orbea rise. Is this a much different bike now?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
The levo sl that went against the Rise was a gen 1, with the levo we used in the shootout being a Gen 3 full power levo. Two different machines with very different geo.
@jlock311
@jlock311 2 жыл бұрын
2022 Turbo Levo Expert or 2021 Trek Rail 9.8 XT? Buying one or the other this weekend, you make the decision for me! haha Riding in San Diego/So Cal. Thanks!
@marklopez5267
@marklopez5267 2 жыл бұрын
Levo!
@joesmith71
@joesmith71 2 жыл бұрын
What did you end up getting? I went from 2021 Rail 9.8 to a 2022 Rail 9.8 and now a Levo Expert. I would rank them 1. Levo 2. 2021 Rail and 2022 Rail would be last. I did not like mine. The changes were a miss. And the Levo doesn’t rattle!!
@59trevski
@59trevski 2 жыл бұрын
What magic Mary tires did you use. Addict soft trail or super enduro, front and tear?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
We ran Magic Mary front, Big Betty rear with both being Addix Soft Super Gravity in the Enduro category. All our trail bikes ran Eddy Currents front/rear with Addix Soft Super Gravity
@TJ-po9ol
@TJ-po9ol 2 жыл бұрын
What do you guys film on? Looks good!
@dustenlapointe9121
@dustenlapointe9121 2 жыл бұрын
All Sony’s this year.
@86309
@86309 2 жыл бұрын
how much do you attribute the ride to the Grip II and the X2?
@Acceleronics
@Acceleronics 2 жыл бұрын
You guys ride WAY above my pay grade, so you may not be able to answer this. I have a 2019 Levo Carbon Expert. I like how it monster trucks over just about anything that doesn't scare me off, but I struggle with tight switchbacks. Do you think an average rider would notice the difference in handling between a gen 2 29er and a gen 3 mullet?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and appreciate you asking. Are you able to notice things on your bike now? For example, if your tire pressure is too low, or your levers moved or seat post isn't at the right height, can you discern those differences? If so, then you'll likely notice the improved handling in tight switchbacks of the smaller wheel. HOWEVER, working with an instructor/coach, or spending time practicing those turns you struggle with will for sure be more noticeable in the long run! Equipment is good, skills are gooder. haha. But yes, the shorter rear end is nice.
@natej7929
@natej7929 2 жыл бұрын
The wife and I love our his (S5 Expert) and hers (S1 Expert) Levo’s. Only gripe is the S1 came with a DPS and not the X2 or even a FloatX.
@mesabman
@mesabman Жыл бұрын
Why don't you like the DPS? What problems have you had with it?
@AS-wu2nh
@AS-wu2nh 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, but i would always go with the Heckler
@emtbtrailrider539
@emtbtrailrider539 2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather get the SC Bullit 😜
@jgccuencocuenco8296
@jgccuencocuenco8296 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Loam Wolf, if you would compare this to the Orbea Rise Hydro running on the same trail, which do you think is better in terms of handling, ride quality and value?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Long story short, the Levo.
@mikeryan657
@mikeryan657 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the review! Only thing I wish was added was a comparison of the expert to the pro. Did you find the carbon rims and factory suspension really made any difference? Thanks for doing these. Great job!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. We'd for sure suggest saving the coin and upgrading as you see fit. Not a big enough difference in performance for 90% of riders to notice.
@michaelruiz4010
@michaelruiz4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf I'm not an expert and I noticed the difference in a 15 minute ride on mild terrain. Your milage may vary, but I dont recommend riding the expert carbon if you don't have the extra cash in the budget...
@jamesmcgeorge493
@jamesmcgeorge493 2 жыл бұрын
I have the option of getting a comp alloy immediately or waiting for the comp carbon, what’s the best choice? Is the extra spend worth it?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
We'd likely go for the comp alloy, using all the money we would save to upgrade it. The weight difference between the two frame materials is pretty minimal.
@ckkone
@ckkone 2 жыл бұрын
Better than an aluminum Trek Rail?
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Alloy Rail's are pretty dang solid and was a winner of last year's shootout. If you compare the price per smile on the alloy Rail vs this, you've got a real tough battle...
@KyleSchuman-g2b
@KyleSchuman-g2b Жыл бұрын
I would love to say how dominant a turbo levo expert is but in 2 1/2 months mine still has not functioned properly. No urgency from Specialized to get their product to work.
@claytonprice7833
@claytonprice7833 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review and I know how to get your scores closer to 10/10... Hope ebike 155mm Cranks...
@dad_bod_racing
@dad_bod_racing 2 жыл бұрын
What it's like with a 240lb rider? It's got a pretty short stroke rear shock. Shock pressure would be super high, if not above the shock pressure limit. Plenty of big guys in the 40's and 50's are buying e-mtb, in fact, given the cost of them, I'd say it's the target market.
@jimbo4203
@jimbo4203 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man , im 225lbs and hsd the bike for a year and a half with zero problems, holds me up just fine
@Spencer_Bikes
@Spencer_Bikes 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love my levo.
@FlowFinderUSA
@FlowFinderUSA 2 жыл бұрын
my bike...love it
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 2 жыл бұрын
Love your multi person reviews. I would have to dock Specialized a full point for the looks. What is with these weird unattractive to me at least colors. In what country might people actually think they look good. Otherwise I am sure great bike. I have a 21 Rail but would love to try this one to conpare.
@Markley92
@Markley92 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great training bike!
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@calebhutchinson8564
@calebhutchinson8564 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna go ahead and assume by the looks of the riders faces at 0:06 that there was an inappropriate joke that went down moments before the camera started filming.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
During our projects, it's hard not to find a time when jokes or pranks aren't going down. Firm believers of the work hard play hard ethos.
@calebhutchinson8564
@calebhutchinson8564 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf love to see it man. Hard to find a group of mtbers that don't do the same.
@monicapinto3225
@monicapinto3225 Жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@tyrelthibault5264
@tyrelthibault5264 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a couple hour I was app weeks to have the motor replaced on my Levo Expert Makes me not want a Specialized for my next bike
@LuisRodriguez-xd7hw
@LuisRodriguez-xd7hw 2 жыл бұрын
I have that same model the best ride but have many issues 3 time the rear shock,3 time the motor, 2 time the chainstay, and one dropper in 8 month.i am waiting for a new one for warranty.it been 9 weeks ago and counting, it was a lot of money for this shit
@GhettoSuguru
@GhettoSuguru 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of e bikes but that colour is great
@toragejrgensen7753
@toragejrgensen7753 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Levo so much, its 90nm not 85👌🏻
@seandunlap1743
@seandunlap1743 2 жыл бұрын
Road one at Kanuga- basically a motorcycle that asks you to move you feet in a pedaling motion. So much fun! And towed my son without any effort at all.
@SteveHofsaess
@SteveHofsaess 2 жыл бұрын
Next week,, I sell my kidney. After recovery , I will buy the Levo
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Haha.
@Twentykixx
@Twentykixx 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t matter to me, bike is broken upon pick up… bike goes back or to Pinkbike for resale. Won’t be the last time it breaks either. Not my opinion either, ddddddoonnn’tt believe the hype… LOL!
@emtbtrailrider539
@emtbtrailrider539 2 жыл бұрын
90 nm of torque by the way
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
drive train problems, still !! NEXT !!! i am NOT going to buy a bike again that requires a new motor every 2000km, i opened the one they refused to replace for free, the flaw is obvious !! and they are lying about it. no more specialized bikes for me.
@SL--rz6ul
@SL--rz6ul 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Martijn, what do you believe the obvious flaw is?
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
@@SL--rz6ul the gearbox is separated from the motor by a metal plate, the gearbox is a large cog, a small cog, a tensioner, and a belt, the problem is that the plate has a hole next to the large cog that is larger about half a centimeter than the cog itself, for no reason, so, when the belt gets older, and stretches a bit, instead of just running against the plate, it gets into that gap and is shredded into DUST in a couple of seconds !!! and then instead of just giving u a new belt, they charge 1000 euros for a new motor because of their contract with browse !!!
@SL--rz6ul
@SL--rz6ul 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitraM321 Thanks for info. I'm considering buying a Levo, I took one for a test ride, great bike! But I'm concerned about the motor reliability, especially on such an expensive bike. This video helped me understand some of the issues: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5XchYCFpruBqtE
@HelloHello-gv2gg
@HelloHello-gv2gg 2 жыл бұрын
You can take your helmets off when you’re not riding
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Safety first.
@colincoulthard3021
@colincoulthard3021 2 жыл бұрын
What if the discussion gets really heated?
@porroco
@porroco 2 жыл бұрын
In fact that specialized screw it up by doing the enduro kenevo a SL bike.
@eugenux
@eugenux 2 жыл бұрын
some just want to ride bikes not tractors, as farmers do. 😉
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
no, that is the only speech bike i would still buy. if i was t so happy with my Orbea Rise !
@porroco
@porroco 2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenux well i guess all the bikes here were tractors as tou say, all the bikes here were 500 to 900mw
@mustclime5311
@mustclime5311 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are so fail.....everything is over 10 k......I meet you on the trail, I will give you 10k in dental bills. unsubscibed.
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
See ya later, we won't miss you.
@R1cha0
@R1cha0 2 жыл бұрын
How is it these two riders rate the bikes over a 9 out of 10 with these two major flaws? Just lost all respect for you the Loam wolf Guys. How do you rate a bike over 9 out of 10 if 50% of the sample size used by the riders have a motor issue? #1 It’s an Ebike, the motor reliability should be a top priority for an electric bikes. #2 Pedal strikes on an Ebike is paramount when you ride an Ebike. You spend more time on the saddle and pedal strikes can make you fall…
@TheLoamWolf
@TheLoamWolf 2 жыл бұрын
To answer it simply, because it rides that good! Technically 33% of our bikes 1 of 3 had an issue. And if we count the over 10 friends of ours who have bought and regularly ride Levos without issue, our personal knowledge of issues is even lower. Plus we did talk to specialized and asked them as it is a very real issue and concern for us as consumers and people recommending the bike. We can’t discuss the actual number but it was very very low. So that put us at ease for this review and recommendation. As far as pedal strikes, not many ebikes don’t strike pedals as most brands are still learning about the need for shorter cranks and higher BBs. And this bike is still leaps above many others. And that’s how/why they rated it so highly.
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