2022 F1 Season Review | WTF1 Podcast

Matt, Tommy and Katy reflect on the highs and lows of the 2022 F1 season, discussing the most memorable and memeable moments.
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00:00 - Greetings 01:48 - Three word season review: "New regulations work!" 06:35 - Who had the best overtake of the season and why? 10:19 - Katy: "Not much better!" (FIA rant) 16:58 - What would you change? How would you make the structure better? 21:28 - Tommy: "Verstappen different league!" 28:58 - Was Verstappens season less/as/more dominant than Hamiltons Driver Championships? 33:26 - People are frustrated of Verstappens dominance - but will we like him in ten or so years (Just like with Vettel)? 39:18 - Matt: "Hype train derailed!" 46:25 - Why did Ferrari win only four of the 22 races while having the second fastest car? 48:21 - Why did Ferrari mess up their strategy so many times? And why was Carlos the only driver deciding against them? 53:08 - What was the best race of the season? 56:24 - What was the most shocking/exciting moment of the season? 1:02:55 - Who were the most impressive / underwhelming teams of the season? 1:06:17 - Pick one highlight of the season! 1:09:46 - Predictions wrap-up 1:14:22 - "Final Thoughts"

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

predictions were some of the funniest things I've ever heard. Sainz hit his head on the pit wall and that means he had a bad weekend, Russell "collided" with his engineer on strategy which counts.....lmfao

[@Raj-je6kw]

Thanks 👍👍

[@camcambambam5128]

Honestly Max on Leclerc in Suzuka was spectacular, it’s difficult to get alongside into T1 in Suzuka let alone ripping it around the outside

[@Kevin-yj4mi]

On the outside is where the grip is in the rain so that made it a little easier still great move but imo doesn't come close to the action of the year

[@illbeV]

Jog on fanboy, nowhere near the best move

[@kalpesh_p]

It wasn’t a proper overtake as it was just the start of the race and Leclerc wasn’t even fully ahead. Plus Max had more grip on the outside to brake later.

[@Marcushalberstram749]

Suzuka was max’s best win, one second a lap quicker than everyone else was madness. Biggest win margin in Suzuka and it was only half a race

[@johndimillo9707]

Alonso’s overtake on Tsunoda in Austria: got pushed off the track on the straight before the turn, STILL pulled off the move, and proceeded to give yuki the wag. Menace

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

This show epitomises what, IMHO, could (and should?) be added for next year race reviews - teams grading. I feel in 2022 so much focus was put on Ferrari's blunders, that some other really poor performances were swept under the rug. Merc missing some points due to poor strat calls? McLaren's sliding to 5th? Alfa choking for half of the season? Mick getting an awful wrong side of the stick from Haas? This could add extra layer - and moar ABCDEF1 fun

[@karthikkamathp]

Also, Alonso having a dreadful Alpine with so many technical issues

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

How about Mick absolutely wasting the precious little time of the Haas being competitive on crashing? How about his poor performances being swept under the rug?

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Man, are you asking me or WTF1 Team? 🤨 I think these guys, esp. Tommy, have slammed Mick often enough, esp. when he honestly deserved it. Also I've never said that he ain't to blame, i did not shed a tear when he got the boot (albeit would prefer a new young driver instead of Hulk). But beside his blunders and/or his quali performance, he also quite regularly got poor strategy planned for him. But still Steiner and Haas are these cool boyos, despite some signals showing that the atmosphere in that team might be caustic sometimes. So... what are you talking about then...?

[@hoggypare7629]

But the reason Masi became the scapegoat was *specifically* the fact that the journalists and the fans (and Mercedes and their 'protests' also had a hand in that) made him into one. Last season was marred with issues and dodgy stewarding, yet everyone concentrated only on the Abu Dhabi drama. This sent the signal to the FIA that only this is the problem - so they did what everyone asked for. Exactly that, and just that. It is no surprise nothing has changed.

[@Sr68720]

@CrispinBell silver stone was correct pen, you pen the incident not the outcome Masi was questionable the whole season, but abu dhabi was an outrage he literally made up new rules in the last 3 laps of a race., that's unforgivable.

[@pranc236]

Max on the outside turn 1 &2 at suzuka. Where is the question in that?

[@MrBaspius]

Forgot overtake of Verstappen in Japan in the rain on the outside taking the lead from Leclerc. That one was really important since it also sealed the championship. It was a massive car control.

[@armkidmustang]

The overtake everyone should never forget this season is Alonso in Austria against Yuki while he wags his finger at him

[@manolachestefan2432]

Best overtake: Ricciardo on Tsunoda😂

[@jebus456]

Regarding the vettel / max comparison, nostalgia is a very powerful emotion which most of the time just leaves you remembering/feeling all the good times and marginalizing the bad

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

Ye people forget that Vettel got beaten by Webber multiple times where we saw a Max nearly never worst in racepace even on a "bad day" (something he never has really like a Lewis or Schumi) after all max should have won 17 if the team gave him the better treatment in monaco and didnt mess up Singapore

[@soundscape26]

Nostalgia is a good way to combat the recency bias so they may well even out.

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

@@ehrlichgesagt863 Monaco was a case of Sergio going for a risky strategy and Sainz realizing it late and both of them jumping Leclerc, Max made the safe call but still jumped Leclerc. Sergio had just lost Spain at that point due to team orders and then backing off. It was early in the season and Checo thought he could be a factor himself in the title. So he went for it and jumped the Ferraris too with his great strategy, which was risky at the time. So Perez was going to win that race regardless of what happened.

[@jaketaylor2347]

@@ehrlichgesagt863 Yup. Checo intentional spin at Monaco, team not putting gas in the car at Singapore. Even with such an amazing season, Singapore still stings

[@mattytorley]

The thing which people forget is when the flexi-floors were banned, is when they fell away. Everyone was calling it flexifloorstappen when it was really flexifleclerc

[@Eric-rf1is]

correct, to quote RUS "RB is probably gonna loose 0,75sec a lap"........... and than Spa happened 🤣🤣

[@masonbeck566]

13:16 Thank you, Matt. The FIA was able to use Masi as a scapegoat because of how dramatic last season was and particularly the finale. I’d still say Masi was pressured to get the race running again by the FIA/Liberty, because they didn’t want the most action packed season they’d had in almost 10 years to finish under the SC. This season, when the FIA started focussing on jewellery instead of consistent penalties and safe recovery of vehicles, I knew that this season was going to be the same.

[@VanskyAlleria]

The key for me is that Max was 150ish points ahead of his teammate in the same car.

[@justinbutera8945]

Ferrari robbed us of a great season with ignorance, incompetence, and the smaller portion of the drivers just lacking focus.

[@nakki123]

Ferrari just being Ferrari.

[@danielmclellan7762]

The car was fast, however, and they met the claimed goal of being back in the fight, which everyone seems to ignore.

[@soundscape26]

@@danielmclellan7762 Probably because of the strong showing at the start of the season. If they were offered 2d place in both championships one year ago they would grab it with both hand. Clear progression over 2021. Of course they have to better their strategy game and fine tune several other operational aspects.

[@Visual_Ghoul]

Part of the low expectations was probably because they expected to run out of money

[@justinbutera8945]

@@danielmclellan7762 That should have changed at pre season testing and through races 1 and 2 when they realized they could have challenged for the constructors title. Playing it 'safe' screwed Ferrari at almost every turn.

[@Almin88]

Its a good race if: Leclerc v Verstappen People batlle through the whole pack Its a bad race if: Ferrari decide to kill any chance of Leclerc v Verstappen

[@user-uz7jj3ew9x]

Matty after Melbourne: STOP THE COUNT

[@sujithvoona7887]

Carlos Sainz and George Russell were spot on the entire season in taking strategy decisions. Whenever there was a safety car or red flag they knew exactly what tyre they needed. George was giving ideas to the pit wall in many occasions. That was crazy. They both were really good in making those decisions through out this year.

[@JekleFPV]

You guys… you can’t say Verstappen and Hamilton clashing is somehow due to Verstappen driving differently, and not address any of the other clashes/crashes Hamilton was involved in this year. Alonso had a point you know!

[@ddha0000]

the only crash that was deemed hamiltons fault was the one with alonso which hamilton admitted to immediately (unlike most drivers). all other crashes were the fault of the other drivers. not sure what you are talking about.

[@JekleFPV]

@@ddha0000 funnily enough, the only common denominator is lulu, so what are you on about? Do you really need me to tell you that race control hasn’t been very consistent? What was or wasn’t ‘deemed’ lulus fault by that standard is pretty much irrelevant.

[@iplayeddsharpminor]

My biggest frustration is the size and weight of the new cars which I know is driven a lot by safety. But if they could reduce the weight by 10% and size by just a little, with these new regulations I think they have amazing potential. Totally agree that silverstone was some of the best racing ever and I totally agree on that Leclerc move - all things considered one of the best I’ve ever seen

[@daanbesselink]

Didnt they say the cars would be smaller in 2026? I dont know for sure

[@FullTimeGaming360]

@@daanbesselink Slightly and they are dropping the MGU-H which is quite heavy as they need to bulk up the engine size and have the extra unit. I haven't seen a confirmed estimated weight saving but it could be good. They are also dropping engine power so it could be a big let down as well.

[@trautsj]

People always like to throw out Vettel dominance... but honestly that was just 2013... every other year he might have had a great run toward the end in what? 2012, but those were some close championships in those years and there were a lot of different race winners and podium sitters. Vettel more than earned those championships.

[@rspbgaming8147]

Going to be watching this one a few times on repeat until the next season I can tell

[@davidearthling5123]

Good stuff as always. Thanks for another great season.

[@d3al3rplays68]

Mattie goofed.. he called himselve a fanboy instead of just passionate 😁

[@jellevanalthuis5289]

no goof, just finally some honesty 😂😂

[@shekelgangiv3411]

It's probably for the best that this happened to Leclerc. Not rooting against him, but now he knows better than to blindly trust Ferrari. Hopefully he fights back next season (assuming the strategy doesn't get their act together).

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

As a kid in high school I used to do the Vettel no. 1 finger every time I achieved something with my friends......always a fan.

[@baymax1]

conclusion: two bulls destroyed everyone while the horse had a meltdown on its own

[@suckieduckie]

One bull if we're being honest.

[@ethanahsooleen6361]

The predictions bit at the end was so funny

[@baaasti]

29:15 - 32:00 You gotta remember, when comparing Max's and Lewis' dominant seasons, the regulations were much different. So, the argument in this part is not fair. This year's regulations were supposed to make cars follow each other more competitively than in the previous seasons.

[@Sr68720]

but its the 1st year on new regs so the whole field is spread out more.

[@IbokRock811]

So appreciate y’all’s commentary!! ☺️☺️❤

[@viewed_by_heather]

matt always talking like he’s so old and then “12 years old in 2004” …I was 14 then 😂 hope that makes you feel a little younger. thank you all for the great pod as always!

[@username69420h]

Leclerc made a joke about his engine failing at the end of the first race when Redbull had a double engine failure, jinxed the whole team for the rest of the season.

[@frickin_robin]

been waiting for this!

[@cybrpypr]

You guys make F1 fun and informative., I could not watch F1 without you guys as part of my weekly experience. Thanks and see you at testing 2023!

[@KrsJin]

Just want to say thank you to you three for making this sport and this season that much more enjoyable. ❤

[@jihadjoe]

Ferrari's poles vs wins this year kinda reminds me of BMW-Williams during the V10 era. Supreme engine power and one-lap pace, but can't really keep it up for the full race distance.

[@Kurosaki_Ichigo_No1]

Again with 2021 Abu Dhabi... omg, I am a Hamilton fan but what happened was the most exciting moment I had in 25 years of F1 watching. I was not even mad... Max was clearly the hungry one last year and ultimatelly deserved it.

[@Sr68720]

lol, fake comment.

[@philb8437]

For the best overtake, Vettel on Magnussen on the final lap was very very good as well !

[@elliotttalksf1825]

For sure best overtake of the season was Leclerc on Hamilton around the outside of copse.

[@novisna]

It's been kind of a boring season, but you guys never disappoint, love following along with you guys :)

[@Marcushalberstram749]

Vettel on Magnussen T16 COTA is more impressive because it’s a quadruple right hander and he had a snap of oversteers

[@christianorsa]

For the last time in 2022 it's "hello everybody and welcome back to the WTF1 podcast" and away we go

[@inspiredglue2056]

I'm excited for 2023 and hoping to wipe away the pain of 2022 lol. As a Hamilton, Leclerc, and Alonso fan, I want to see them all up front. Let's hope for some better championship action next year.

[@enricosevenfoldism]

Broh im jealous that u feel excited because me as a fan of ricciardo, Schumacher, and latifiy i could only feel sad because they're gone

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@enricosevenfoldism man I am a Schumacher fan too. How AWESOME would it be: "And across the line, Mick Schumacher a world champion for Mercedes!"

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@enricosevenfoldism Also everyone is a fan of the GOAT himself. Goatifi is my idol. Fr tho he's such a nice guy I hope he gets an indycar seat or something, he deserves it.

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

You can probably scratch Alonso from that list of hopes or 2023. Thank Aston Martin for that one.

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@greatsageclok-roo9013 I think you might be right. Hey, Perez just said Aston might be up front. If he's right, I'm happy. :)

[@danpaton9744]

Leclerc probably has the top 3 overtakes all to himself tbh 1. On Ham at Silverstone 2. On Checo at COTA 3. On Max in Austria

[@MrXLR8Clan]

The one on russell in hungary > max in austria

[@IamHailey8]

Verstappen on the wet to defend 1st place in Japan, I think was a great overtake

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

Correcting Leclerc's reliability DNFs in Spain and Azerbaijan, Leclerc would've been leading in France and let's assume that makes him take it easy and doesn't crash out...Verstappen still wins the title by 50 points. Fix Hungary, Monaco, Belgium strategy calls and it's another 25 points. But Verstappen has been that good that it was only a question of margin and how early he's champion, not who's champion.

[@dawnlawy389]

Thats not true since leclerc gaining points means max loses those points, he also then probably doesnt take the engine penalties in canada and cota meaning he couldve won canada and finished 2nd in cota he arguably couldve just held on but its a massive what if

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

@@dawnlawy389 yea but Verstappen was just plain faster at some points in the season. Plus giving the engine enough reliability to finish Spain and Baku is enough luck so we'll balance that with Canada penalty and Ferrari was actually slower with Sainz and Leclerc at the end. So it wouldn't be the title.

[@albr4]

best season in a long time for most of the grid and fans of other teams, obviously the max v lewis was good last year but overall this season had so many overtakes and battles.

[@alozzola]

Really?! Not even 30 mins in and I’ve been given 11 ads this is just ridiculous cmon

[@soundscape26]

11?!

[@alozzola]

It was something like that, it was genuinely an ad every 3 minutes. I basically got to listen to one sentence from tommy and then I got an ad then one sentence from Matt and then an ad. I’ve never had anything like that on YT before

[@Kevin-yj4mi]

I am very happy to here I was not the only one that thought that leclerc's overtake in silverstone was way better than hamilton's, for me personally I would rank leclerc's overtake in copse among the top 10 overtakes of all time in f1.

[@FormulaOneLeclerc]

27:20 Katy saying "name" sounds like the begining of a song lol

[@domroper6333]

Would love to see Vettel involved with the running of races👍

[@Daxboy16]

I'm surprised they didn't say a word about Leclerc crashing out from the lead in France. I feel like that's the moment where everybody thought "The title fight is over."

[@fredrickevans5725]

THEY DIDNT TALK ABOUT VETTEL ON A SCOOTER - best thing to happen all year

[@hisham_hm]

Who's here catching up on old content since the news broke that Tommy and Matt left? 😢

[@mgers75]

Let's talk about track limits. I wish FIA would focus on letting the track penalize the drivers for exceeding the track dimensions instead of trying to officiate it where it can be missed or it becomes a judgment call. They could examine the corners that cause the most headaches and make changes to the curbing, runoffs, etc so that if your car goes over the white line, you lose time or damaged car. For example, the Brazil GP corner that Max pushed Lewis wide defending in 21', they could take a power driver to the asphalt runoff at the exit so if Max would've gone wide like that he'd be in grass or Gravel. Obviously, safety is a concern so you'd want to leave the asphalt runoff in the entry part of that corner. That's what Spa did at the Hairpin and it seemed to work great.

[@dohtje5029]

It's so funny always talking about 'why didn't they pit Leclerc in Silverstone' but never 'why didn't they pit Lewis in Zandvoort' wich is exactly the same strategy f* up

[@suckieduckie]

Difference is that Lewis would have still lost and Leclerc would have won.

[@JJJackson777]

1:13:01 got a good chuckle out of me

[@Sopris17]

IMO Seb's overtake at COTA should be overtake of the year

[@soundscape26]

One of the best for sure. Helped by the fact that it happened on the last lap

[@leo63037]

Amazing overtake, but he was on softer and newer tyres and it was for 6th or 7th, so not exactly a move for the victory

[@soundscape26]

@@leo63037 They tyre argument is fine, but the position is not relevant for how good an overtake is.

[@polc3180]

Max on Charles @ Suzuka turn 1 lap 1 was easily the best move of the year ...

[@JJJackson777]

best overtake for me was Vettel on Kmag, last lap of CoTA

[@trautsj]

Katy with the very common "W". Congrats. Looking forward to more next season!!!

[@lewisunited3900]

29:15 As a massive Hamilton fan I agree with Matt is definitely think it’s up there with some of Hamilton’s best but I wouldn’t say as dominant to the point where Max is winning by 30 seconds every week as we often saw with Hamilton. However I also agree with Matt that the Ferrari was the quicker car at the start of the season. Although I still think Lewis is the better driver. This season has undoubtedly been an incredible year for Max and I hope to see Mercedes back up there next season.

[@evertgeurtsen2514]

I get what you say but its it not more dominant to win against an other team what is so close but still win almost every week and not to Fight your teammate Please have this discussion on a normal way👍🏻

[@roderictelford5765]

The British GP was the best race I have seen in years. I really enjoy your podcast. Thanks

[@rk-wy8pu]

The cars were really really close this season. The only reason why it doesn't look like that seeing the final points tally is because Max was in another zone totally. He was truly super max this year.

[@sarathguttikonda4065]

i believe along with the race director there should be a driver advisor who has already raced in f1 who is unbiased to advise on certain incidents and also the safety of drivers this would be helpful because race directors see from rule wise but a driver perspective would have a new dimension i am not sure whether it's happening now or not but this would be a great idea

[@inspiredglue2056]

Yeah... like Seb!

[@maxdenbreejen9844]

It would be a very good idea, but if a driver has raced in F1 they definitely have ties to the teams and are therefore either not unbiased or it is going to be heavily scrutinised every time an FIA call is made regarding their former team.

[@inspiredglue2056]

@@maxdenbreejen9844 Very true. I do think that Seb would be for sure one of the better choices.

[@matiashansen3724]

I would love to hear your views on the rules of overtaking. I feel the inside line has become too powerful, and it ruins the battling. What do you think?

[@mithileshjnaik]

If you want to get a comparison of Hamilton Vs Verstapen dominance, may be we can compare their performances against their Teammates?

[@ddha0000]

although that is hard as Bottas was better than perez i would say and merc treated both drivers equally.

[@creekboi7]

The Irony of Mr Passionate rolling his eyes lol

[@brianolsen396]

Ferrari being so close speed wise compared to the points results is a nightmare for them… the running thread of the year was Ferrari power units were exploding left and right in Ferrari, Haas and Alfa

[@adityabaid6971]

Tommy you're such a party pooper. You should've done the f1 theme at the start 😂

[@paulmaxey6377]

If you watch the podcast on Twitch at the end after this finishes Tommy actually does play guitar for a bit :P.

[@adityabaid6971]

@@paulmaxey6377 didn't know. Gonna watch this one on twitch then👍🏻

[@IchBeinSchlarph]

I think Charles had best overtakes: In Silverstone In COTA, this divebomb on Checo it's masterpiece In Hungary on George In Austria on Max 3 times In Bahrain and Saudi amazing battle Leclerc have really good racecraft.

[@ollymilesy3622]

Nah I disagree, won’t show any evidence just will disagree

[@williamvanderscheer4327]

Cota and Silverstone were good, the others, eh.

[@camcambambam5128]

Max will win every title until the next reg change. Because he’s simply the best rn

[@KarvidSR]

Its always hard to tell domination of driver vs machinery. But you can tell when Perez that is imo subpar and 30 sec behind his teammate still be able to come 2nd, it says a lot how dominant redbulls car was on some tracks.

[@maxdenbreejen9844]

Perez was still right with Leclerc in suzuka tho, that should tell you more about Max than the Redbulls.

[@KarvidSR]

@@maxdenbreejen9844 yeah but thats what I mean. It's the same thing. Max is a great driver, perez is meh. But perez can come 2nd. If they all had equal car, perez would be 15th or more.

[@kinomanssky]

If you see the season as a race, its like Max finished 1st after lapping the others 4 times....

[@knivess3]

I think the moment with max and Hamilton, was just a champion type defense as both of them are champs and multi champs and neither one likes leaving space with each other so little bad blood but I like them driving each other hard. I hope at least three teams next year are fighting for a title. Moments like that will be crazy with me ppl fighting for a title.

[@nomar5spaulding]

The FIA and F1 Management make enough money that they could easily fund every track upgrading to automatic and electronic track limit monitoring system like they have in Indy Car.

[@jebus456]

congrats Katy!

[@texantactical7787]

Most exciting part of the season was 100% after Monaco. Everyone kept talking about how it brought Perez into contention for the championship and how Leclerc was still in it if Ferrari could stop making mistakes. People actually thought we were going to have a 3 way title fight for like one day.

[@teyrar1221]

@tom I think with rating verstappen as one of the best is very plausible people tend to forget he has been in the sport a long time now he just started very very young

[@yachthvac469]

I wish there was a way to get every driver into a car setup to their liking and see what happens.

[@joshn1678]

There's no audio?

[@anuragkhot7841]

Love the podcast, and I always eagerly wait for it. But the FIA rant is getting a bit boring we understand that they are screwing up big time but it's getting a bit repetitive. Love your channel and can't wait for next season.❤

[@Kurosaki_Ichigo_No1]

Regardig Ferrari, they only had the 1 lap pace but in the race, RB destroyed everyone. That being said, it could have gone down to Brazil maybe if Ferrari would have been a more composed team.

[@nikhilpaleti3872]

I only want to ask how was this not more dominant than anything from Lewis? More from a car perspective than driver. We never saw the Mercs with an ability to win from P15 without chaos, and heck not in back to back races for fun. People seem to forget that. Most of Lewis' "30 second" wins were people behind him pitting for FL. And even at the start, Max won most races he finished, the engine issues only masked the car's true performance a bit.

[@martimxavier9690]

Brazil 21. Also, I feel like there were a lot of mistakes by Ferrari at the beginning of the year that made the RBs look better. Obviously, RBs were the superior car in the second half, even tho Checo could never achieve the same results as Max. Very rarely they were 1-2

[@dylanburston7453]

Because the races were somewhat competive, even if max took the win at the end of the day. Ferrari was usually right behind for 90% of the race until the tyres fell off a cliff. The difference in lap was usually a couple of tenths Merc dominance was a 30 second plus gap by lap 15, meaning the only way nyone could get infront was SC or merc DNF

[@nikhilpaleti3872]

​@@fritsieboiker8449 Trust me, that's what most of this season was, and that's what it will feel like even more. Merc probably only had 2020 like that, but even then there was Lewis falling sick, the penalties spicing up, and some other stuff

[@suckieduckie]

@@nikhilpaleti3872 If you feel that Max was more dominant than Lewis ever was, keep in mind that Max had a ~70% winrate this season. Mercedes from 2014 till 2020 had a 75% winrate with around 35% 1-2s. Let that sink in. Mercedes was as dominant over 8! seasons on average with three of those seasons winning all but 2 or 3 races in 2014, 2015 and 2016. In 2016 they only lost Spain because Lewis and Nico crashed, that car would have won. In Maleisia they only lost because Lewis had a rare DNF. The 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 Merc were easily more dominant than the 2022 RB.

[@nikhilpaleti3872]

@@suckieduckie Exactly! Mercedes, as a constructor, had a win-rate of 73%, having 2 hyper-competent drivers for 3 Years, and one year of Ferrari being nerfed because of cheating. Max alone has a win rate of 69% this season, despite 2 DNFs, and RedBull 77%, once again, despite 2 DNFs. Mercedes as a whole had 2016, especially, but there still was a title battle, the conversation was about the entire package.

[@philb8437]

I don't know if this has been covered or not, but regarding the FIA blunders, especially about last year final race. Could it be that Michael Massi may have been pushed by Formula One management to apply the rules, but take some liberties from the rules to make sure the show is top notch. Liberty being a media company, what they may want is a great show more than a fair sport. I am no saying it is, but I wonder

[@pk1342]

How have you all turned a blind eye to max and Charles at turn one suzuka

[@soundscape26]

Tbh it was a bit of a chaotic Sunday at Suzuka... 😄

[@jaketaylor2347]

❤preach

[@brianolsen396]

I think a lot of the reminiscing over Vettel is because he’s a nice guy. Max might not get that fan love because he’s kind of a ruthless ass (not that that is bad for sporting)

[@Mazil_5]

And yet he’s a nice guy too. With a winner mentality, who doesn’t give anything away, and had a reason for what he did. (For all of you who will bring up Brazil). Why do you think so many other drivers are friends with Max? They really know him, wouldn’t you think?

[@iiComment13]

This season > Just about, but not quite. So much potential, but the majority of races just never got going/the championship was over too early!

[@JJfromIA]

But did he get the most polls? No, Charles LeClerc did. 🤣

[@e-a-umediaproductions4521]

Katy looks like she’s at the calmest rave ever with those lenses😜🤘‼️

[@annexismuriu]

The New regulations worked in terms of how close the cars can race. However, it is evident that we still need DRS for most overtaking to take place, unless a Redbull, a Ferrari or a Mercedes found itself behind a slower car like Williams, Alpha Tauri etc. Also, I dont know if it was the big difference in performance that led to very few interesting battles. There were several races where we just sat there hoping for a safty car to come out and bring the cars close together for some interesting racing to take place, even if it would last for 2 laps and we are back to the huge time gaps between the cars. If Ferrari did not make their questionable stategy calls maybe we would have seen more battles at the front in the first half of the season. In the second half they looked slower compared to Rebull even without poor strategy. With that said, it was just the first year of new regulations. I believe the teams have collected enough data, observed what others did better. Hopefully 2023 will have more intesting races and closer interesting battles.

[@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf]

Schumi's 2004 win % is higher than verstappen's but he was regularly finishing a minute ahead of the field in a ridiculously OP car so not really comparable imo

[@iwanevans607]

Was France ever mentioned, Charles crashing and losing the win, also love the podcast but I think doing a quick recap in order from start to finish and talking in order would be much easier and better to follow, felt a bit all over the place, great content though as always

[@suckieduckie]

Vettel last lap overtake in COTA is up there as well?

[@soundscape26]

I don't remember every pass of the year (nor were they all shown for starters) but to me that's the pass of the year.

[@ollymilesy3622]

@@soundscape26 agree

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

Regarding Seb, actually it's in all sport. Yes, we want to see the champion get knocked down, but we all want to see the Champ get back up!

[@ReadySteadyDESTROY]

Loved the podcast this year guys. Looking forward to 2023. I'm a new fan to F1 (started watching last year), but you guys have really helped bring me up to speed. As a total novice, I am left wondering what exactly the function and role of the FIA is supposed to be, given their abysmal and dangerous track record. I honestly feel F1 has the resources to go it alone without them and the sport would be better for it, but what do I know? Lol

[@Alex_Martin_]

23:50 I know it's an apples to Orange comparison, but didn't Jim Clark win six out of eight one season? Giving him a 75% win record.

[@ohdearabier8280]

To be fair in Japan it wasn't really the FIA's fault. In the end the rule is elaborated in the rule book and although it's arguable about how small and where this rule is written all teams have to read the whole book and have to know every part of it. Sure the rule may be put somewhere more obvious and imminent to see but still. I just felt like Japan was a mistake by the media not the FIA.

[@kinomanssky]

Yes there were more overtakes but if we review the season, this one stopped to be interesting really quick because of Max, RBR and their championships. You could definitely hear from the commentators during many races... Hopefully, we will have more interesting seasons ahead because that one remind me why I stopped watching F1 during RBR long dominance and after Merc for even longer...

[@Eric-rf1is]

The years 2014-2020 were also not that interesting. MERC's on pole, Merc'(1 of the 2) is gonna win, who will be 3rd on the podium, that's all. We're spoiled with the 2021 season .👍

[@elaldo2382]

I really hate the argument of "Charles needs to be more cut-throat with Ferrari strategies, he needs to be a strategist as well". 90% of the time Max and Lewis are going to listen to their teams as well. They just have competent people behind them. Can remember a few radio calls this year, Abu Dhabi most recently, where Hamilton trusted the team and then told them afterwards they were wrong. Max has as well, Singapore quali for example. It's likely Charles even has disagreed with strategies before but we dont get all the radio broadcasts! Charles should not be required to be a strategist. He is employed to drive and win. If he can help the strategy department then great but it is not a job requirement. Ferrari just need a new strategy team PRONTO and then this silly requirement will go away.

[@DonLee1980]

Max on Leclerc first corner of Suzuka, that was MIGHTY. very calculated wet racing line and positioning. That was the best overtake. So much uncertainty on the amount of grip and the conditions. Leclerc on Hamilton at Copse? come on, that was a carbon copy of last year, it's just that Hamilton hit the apex as well as two, didn't want to take out another car, or else he'll be viewed as a villain. Leclerc probably knew Hamilton will back off, so not much of a surprise for me.

[@mo215300]

Both overtakes were great. You got to believe rb18 is an awesome car of course max is great but it is easier in the races with that car whereas leclerc did that overtake on hard tyres which removed car advantage of ferrari over merc

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

It wouldn't help if your strategy team is bad and even if you're good at making calls. If the other driver is Verstappen who is somewhat aware of strategy, and insanely quick and adaptable as a driver, you have to be far better than him and have a far better car for strategy to not matter. Verstappen doesn't have to think about the calls because Hannah was good.