2022 Garmin Zumo XT review - should you just use your phone?

[@timrodierides]

I've since done a review of the Garmin Zumo XT2! That's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqPOgWBnftKpoKM

[@sn00pgreen]

I knew civilization was finished when Mcdonalds started calling themselves a restaurant

[@kimmarcelo6131]

Civilization finished when women started with claims of equality for them

[@d.Cog420]

amen

[@BikerGirlTraveler]

Hmm, by definition, McDonalds is a restaurant. The same is true for all other fast food restaurants.

[@d.Cog420]

@@BikerGirlTraveler maybe time to adjust the definition

[@francismckenna2288]

Cannot stop laughing 😂

[@guymathew1520]

Another Zumo XT fan here. I like all the features you mentioned and when it is paired with your phone it also displays calls and messages which can be quite handy if you're out for a ride when you should be at work.

[@timrodierides]

Yup, though I had to turn that off because I kept getting notifications from my smart doorbell when I was trying to relax in Germany :D

[@danicooke346]

This has to be the most hilarious off-the-cuff English dry-humor motorcycle channel I have ever listened to. It’s like Hugh Grant shaved his head, grew a beard and fell in love with a motorcycle. Too awesome.

[@timrodierides]

That has absolutely made my day, thanks Dani! Welcome to the nonsense part of KZbin!

[@jezzylawson936]

Loose comparison...don’t forget to mention he’s male like Grant, not female

[@lostagain365]

just returned from Mexico, used the Zumo the whole time, it was terrific .

[@MopedWanderlust]

….don’t mention the pwarn. 😊 Regards from Germany, where speeding has become more expensive than a quad lock mount.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Couldn't agree more - you'll notice I'm one of those motorcycle "influencers" who isn't sponsored by Quad Lock either - I was one of the the first to use a Quadlock, it completely trashed my £800 phone camera and QuadLock's answer was (a few months later) buy a vibration dampener!! Stable/Horse/Bolted. Like you I'll never risk another phone with them again, vibro dampener or not.....

[@timrodierides]

Thanks for the comment TMF! Absolutely agree - there's no way I'm going to risk an expensive phone, no matter how much assurance they give me…

[@lukeludeman6320]

I also have/use a Garmin XT and love it! I know, old tech compared to a modern smartphone, but the reasons you mention are all relevant and real. I live in the Southwest of the US, and in the summer months, temperatures can be quite warm (sometimes over 40C) and I have experienced the dreaded overheating scenario with my phone, which became quite inconvenient when riding somewhere I had never been before. Also, another “feature” of a smartphone is to automatically dim/darken the screen in certain scenarios - also happens (always) at the most inappropriate times, at least for me and my phone. I will always have a dedicated GPS unit on my bike designed to handle the environment and activity of riding a motorbike…

[@Maxumized]

Good choice. Imagine using your phone and you crash…phone flys away or the mount fails and the road ate it. Reaching into a dedicated, zipped pocket for your phone is a life saver

[@dpinedoblog]

This is a great point, living in Texas myself

[@actionman862]

Iphone X overheats and shutsdown very quickly in AUS on a mild 35c day. Just ordered a ZUMO 2 today.

[@Swizzenator]

The older we get the harder is is to read the smart phones in the sun. Then the iphone will get hot and go dim. I order the Garmin. No brainer. Thanks for the entertaining video.

[@scotttracey4919]

Phone based navigation is fine for commuting and people who don’t care about riding good routes.

[@timrodierides]

Agreed

[@gerryryan2302]

I’m very much against my phone on my handlebars , they have become too important to us with the info they have at hand for our ease of use .my iPhone was over £1k not a top of the range but certainly around what you expect to pay for iPhone . it has all my important information on it , banking etc , if it became detached , stolen or damaged I’d be lost ..if you lost your phone and were stuck beside the road do you remember your wife’s or riding friends numbers , breakdown contact, your insurance company even the hotel your going to , even finding a roadside phone box is pretty difficult nowadays if somehow you can recall anything . I have got the XT as well and it’s brilliant ,…..I challenge you to turn your phone off and see how many numbers you can remember , don’t forget also if your phones damaged you might not be able to use internet either to help you out ,

[@iainamurray]

I’m an Android user but have an old iPhone 8+ for fixing to the bike. Big screen and I don’t care if it gets damaged. Best of both worlds!

[@fasteddy3661]

After having owned a Navigon 5, Navigon 6, Zumo 550 and Zumo 595 I vowed never to own a Garmin again. I have been using TomTom Rider 550 for years now and my goodness how much simpler and better that works, and for a much lower price. Nonetheless, I think it is time that the 550 gets un update.

[@colin20cal]

Hi Tim, just happened across this video. I'm with you on the phone in the pocket and dedicated GPS on the bike. Have a garmin Montana which I've had for around 3yrs now that has served me well. Looking to upgrade to the Zumo XT for the bigger screen ( got old ) and this review has sold it for me. Love your outlook and humour now liked and subscribed to your channel 👍

[@jbostephens]

You had me at Jupiter! Well done sir.

[@mirose5553]

Good review, Mate. Love the tongue ‘n cheek.

[@donsmith3573]

Great video, just a couple of questions:- I only have a phone no computer i phone 13 pro can i download onto the xt from that? Also will it show green lanes are they already installed, excuse my lack of tech knowledge

[@kevh8685]

I too prefer a sat nav to phone, great tip about bennetts insurance, been looking at an xt just got one through bennetts for £260 odd 😊

[@timrodierides]

Brilliant! Enjoy it when it comes. I was impressed by the discount you get!

[@babyjackism]

I literally cancelled my Bennett’s a couple of months back, Gutted. I’m reduced to checking Amazon on a daily basis

[@Dave-sw2dm]

Just upgraded from a Zumo 660 to the XT. I tried to use an old phone and not even close.

[@ownyourworld]

Had one last year sold it after a few trips. Garmin need to sort the un intuitive software out . Osmand maps and Google maps is much better.

[@conhennekens]

It is so funny that all those phone versus satnav reviews always consider using an existing phone to a dedicated satnav. Why not review a dedicated rugged navigation phone? It is cheaper, faster, better resolution, waterproof, glove capable, runs any nav app you may like. you need to couple only ONE bluetooth device (headset), so no messing with the correct order of coupling, it runs your favorite music app, speedcam warning app, tracking app. Compare an XT to a rugged phone, it wil ALWAYS lose... Simply buy a rugged phone, combine it with a DuoLock instead of an overrated quadlock, and you will still be cheaper AND have better hardware.

[@danlovelock778]

Can you recommend a rugged phone?

[@minigator2]

Damn I loved the energy of this video so much.. subbed!

[@timrodierides]

Thank you!

[@douglasbasinger2513]

I enjoyed the fly on your head in the first segment, nice video, learned a bit.

[@sarosibela9889]

I would like to know how to import a list (for example an Excel table) of points of interest directly from a PC to the Garmin Zumo XT? Or how can I add POIs (defined by coordinates) via computer?

[@chewie8]

I have a quadlock with mobile phone and able download offline maps and sound to my helmet. Garmin are obsolete really in my opinion.

[@magnusb6311]

Nice review, does it cover the whole world or do you have to load different maps in it and do they charge more for those maps?

[@Eds_PanAm]

Thanks for the video, I've been debating on gettng one of these, I ride my bike so I can forget about my phone lol I prefer it in the tank bag hidden away.....I think I might invest in the XT....sláinte!

[@timrodierides]

Thanks for the kind comment!

[@keesverhagen9227]

Maybe you find it a stupid question. But can you put movies and music on a sc card and play them right on the garmin xt2 ? Does is also play Flac music files or only mp3 ? The movies could be usefull when in the tent at the evening. Now i have the 595 world edition. I can only find the xt2 that is for Europe. Would it be possible to put on a few other countries on the sd card. F.e. when you go from Turkey to Iran ? It would be silly if you have to use your phone while having a dedicated gps device in your sight.

[@eternal_affairs]

Really not comfortable using my flagship phone under such abuse. My galaxy note 9 screen died and I'm convinced it was from the 100 degree heat during the summer.

[@itismegarry]

I've got this Garmin and it's an absolute piece of shit, software wise. It's been designed by some old German grandfather who refuses to go beyond android 2. I usually search for the location of anything and then send it to the GPS because the user interface is very 1990s. User unfriendly, I'd say

[@leswinter]

I was using a phone on the bike until I got stuck in a downpour at night in the middle of nowhere. The phone started screaming at me that it’s detecting water(no s***). Had a beeline on the bike. Couldn’t get it set up in the dark and in the rain. So I got pi***ed off. Bought a zumo xt next day. Phones are great-yes! Most of ‘em don’t like water though!

[@rivencsky]

Now dropped the iphone and garmin gps for the Carplay units C5 to use Calimoto, google maps, wazes and pandora music. So far not missing the garmin

[@irishflyer6377]

I’ve used Tom Tom, Garmin and Phone apps. For a road bike I think the Sat Nav is the easiest option. Do note that a Mount to lock the Garmin on the bike or to use on multiple bikes will cost just as much as Quad Lock. I ride road and trails so a phone gives me apps for both styles of riding and allows me use the app/map that’s best for the country I’m in. Overall for mixed riding and multiple bikes I think the phone wins by a small margin.

[@ShutterUp]

Great Video. I use my phone as primary but on trips I also take the Zumo XT. I'm in the US and traveling through the mountains, you will loose cell signal. We nearly ran out of gas and had trouble finding a gas station. After that, I purchased the Zumo as a backup. I will use it to import map files for pre-planned routes but I really don't use it to it's full potential. Thank you for the reminder of it's other features. Weather is a big one.

[@TheMegaross91]

I sold sold my Tomtom 440 because it was too slow. Fine, until you get out of signal range then you've no satnav, now looking to buy a better satnav

[@lifewithabe312]

Only real thing about this is the fact that I can work it with just normal gloves.. all the rest is nonsense my phone can do better

[@dagveidal3721]

Forget using a mobile in the South of Europe in summer, it's too hot for it, it will shut down. They cannot be used in rain , and iPhones are not built to take the vibrations on a motorbike. Good old satnavs will do the job!

[@rosslloyd6640]

Can I record a journey without having to program a end destination I know with Google you have to have a start and a finish

[@albertlira7443]

I love the dedicated Navi concept still. My old Garmin was solid and never had issues with signal. Great review!

[@pauljirinec2772]

I've had many Zumos over the years, 660, 595LM, XT and now the XT2. I've used them on the bike and the car. Wouldn't be without one.

[@TheCdubbleyoo]

The greatest issue with the GPS units I've tried has been performance. Since all of the chips are being thrown at phones, perhaps the better move is to switch to GPS units without screens that a phone can connect to for GPS data and display through a dedicated app. Otherwise, the GPS could just use faster chips with more memory. I'd like to see that and a return to resistive touch screens with interfaces based on taps rather than slides AND big directional & volume buttons. A phone is ok for around town, but a more rugged, weatherproof device with large screen text/icons focused on just directions/mapping is better for long trips. There's less need for it to be small/slim, so they good be built to be handled and repaired.

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

I ‘ve never considered being distracted by music a benefit to safe riding nor to enjoyment of the bike or the journey. I keep my phone for calls and photos and that’s it. I prefer a dedicated satnav for touring. Bmw navigator allows curvey route alternatives, multiple way points and the ability to skip any. Waterproof, less to lose if damaged and just perfect for the job.

[@timrodierides]

True, but listening to music or podcasts on long motorway schleps is good fun (for me at least… your risk aversion levels may vary!).

[@philipTOMPSETT]

I’ve had mine for over a year and didn’t know it did any of that😂 Excellent vid again. Thanks

[@timrodierides]

Thanks again Philip! Honestly it can do so much more than what I had time to show. It's mega.

[@moomoodeadcow]

I use sat nav because it doesn't over heat and people can't call me when I need to know which way to turn. Also I don't get distracting nonsense on sat navs.

[@Cherhill]

Hi could you advise what aluminium mount that is you’re using for the Garmin. It looks very sturdy and ideal for my new Adventure R that I have on order. Thanks

[@timrodierides]

Hi! It is very sturdy! It’s Touratech part no. 373-5415

[@paradebh]

I use maps (on iphone) when i want to find something on the road and send it to garmin drive to send it to xt. Find something in garmin is always a pain

[@gbarhip]

the ancient usb connector failed after a few months, only plus it has over phone is screen visibility in sun

[@kristaps2010]

It’s good device this XT but sometimes in London it frustrates me with choice of route. Google maps does better job finding places and possibly has more direct routes using common sense.

[@denniselenson560]

Dedicated satnav all day long, google infested devices will never be as good and that weather radar is a really useful feature. Price is a bit high tho, at least for the computing power it's got, I'm sure it costs no more than about £12.50 to produce judging by the way it zooms in and out on the map.

[@HORNET6]

Right up to the point you said damp-en-er 🙄 You claim to be a Grandad with a two year old phone…what’s wrong with that? 🤷‍♂️…so what’s wrong the eons old word that has served us so well? Damper. Please.

[@timrodierides]

I'm glad you've got so much time on your hands to pick me up on that!

[@lovegar]

I've got the Zumo XT & Quadlock which I don't use for all the reason outlined The other thing about phones in hot weather using nav will absolutely overheat your phone & it will shutdown, the Satnav won't

[@timrodierides]

Good point!

[@Graybeard_]

I'm curious why you don't use the app with your KTM TFT that connects your phone to the display. I have the Norden 901 Expedition which came with the Husqvarna Connect app. My phone stays in my pocket connected via bluetooth to my bike. I can navigate maps, music, pretty much everything via the control buttons on the left side of the handlebar (the same buttons that control ride settings, etc.).

[@timrodierides]

It's never worked on my bike

[@troppo4872]

Zumo XTs rule. Particularly with that mount... Agree with all your conclusions. I put a locking thingo on my GPS.. I also have an app on my phone that sends emails and alerts to the GPS. Hours of mindless fun.

[@TK-cl1jm]

Garmin has been putting out absolute garbage for decades. They put sgit out that is FAR from stable. I have had to factory reset Garmin devices literally SCORES of times. My current POS Zumo XT is stuck on Japanese language. ZERO way to change it. I have done factory reset 3 times. Absolute garbage company.

[@maxw576]

I have the Zumo XT and it's got its strong points. However, I want a weather proof wireless android auto device so I can have the benefits without exposing my phone. It should have a bright functional touch screen same as the Zumo.

[@ryanmalone2681]

I use a Garmin Montana because I do a lot of off-road and I can send messages or SOS over satellite without any signals. I still think it’s a pain to use so I mostly use my phone and run them both when touring. Never had a phone die on me, and if I did, I always have AppleCare so I’d just walk into any Apple Store and get II replaced or repaired.

[@JME1981]

Good video, i lost my money after this (by garmin) 😁 Thanks a lot 😁

[@nfinnigan]

I'm still using my older phone for my sat nav, so vibration not a problem, I divert my good phone that I keep in my pocket to the old phone, and I can also see who is calling me when I'm riding and can also text/phone etc from the old phone on the bike in front of me. Also, I can charge my phone from the USB charger and swap it from bike to bike. The only downfall I would say is the screen is not as bright as a sat nav. Many Thanks

[@Makermook]

This might be a dumb question, but I've only ever used Google maps on my phone. With this kind of satnav/Garmin gadget, is there a monthly bill like having a second cell phone?

[@timrodierides]

Not a silly question - but there is no monthly bill!

[@Makermook]

@@timrodierides -- Thanks!

[@stephenwright6969]

I use a Garmin car sat nav, they're a third of the price of a specific bike sat nav and does the same job.

[@janstanek253]

This was all I needed to finalize my purchase decision. Thanks a lot for the great video and perfectly clear information.

[@timrodierides]

Thank you! Enjoy your adventures :)

[@stepheneldridge6998]

Interesting video 📹...I've used my phone in an UltimateAdons case, but thats a pain when you want to take a quick photo. A Garmin or TomTom....maybe a second phone is my way ahead. And I still use a thing, you may have heard of it, called a ' map' 🤣!!. I fold up a page of the 'map' and put it in my UltimateAdons case. Cheers Steve

[@timrodierides]

A map?! That'll never catch on! I do love the idea of using a proper paper map and plotting routes. I took a paper map on my first ever tour in 2010. It got soaked through in my tank bag on the first day 😂

[@WaveyDavey9999]

Great review does the Garmin come with all you need to mount and wire it in or do you need some extra bits?

[@nose2wind872]

Comes with a mount and wiring to your battery.

[@Brad-RB]

Zumo XT for me. The larger font size is so much easier to read especially with all the vibrations.

[@Tythas1]

3:23 mini usb (not micro, which is very similar). You're right that's an old connection, wonder why it uses that!

[@timrodierides]

My bad! The new Zumo XT2 is USB C thankfully

[@challenger2ultralightadventure]

The phone requires an internet connection to work the GPS properly. My ZUMO is fully self contained and will work every time! My ZUMO is waterproof, and the touch screen works with my gloves. I will never stop using my ZUMO, and will use my cell phone to make phone calls, as it is intended to do.

[@mattyaztec]

I have the Tom Tom ride and it’s been very disappointing. I’m looking to replace it with this.

[@timrodierides]

Let us know how you get on!

[@teammotobuild]

New Iphone is around $1000....I just found a new/used Garmin Montana 750i for $375 on facebook...Sold the XT...it's awful. Purely awful. My big issue with it is the complicated way to get a track into it...then once you've rubbed your tummy, patted your head and hopped on one leg and you have the track in there...all your carefully selected waypoint icons are now...flags...nameless flags...because the xt also doesn't have icon labels. The only thing it does will is picking a curvy road from point a to point b....which...if you're using a gps on a bike, you've likely created a track you want to ride in some other software. Dont buy an Garmin XT...use a Montana 680 or 700 series on a bike if using tracks. Keep your phone safe in your pocket.

[@monawoka97]

If I did a lot of touring and adventure riding I would be much more interested in a dedicated GPS. But for urban riding and commuting, which is really all I do, I feel that my phone works better and it's cheaper.

[@IanTed]

Big Calimoto fan with Quadlock then I bought the XT, now I hardly ever use my phone for navigation, huge improvement over my BMW Nav V too. Otherwise I use Google maps as a back up…

[@timrodierides]

Ah that's interesting Ian! Do you miss any of the Calimoto features?

[@brucekendall52]

If you ride proper dirt in SA you will rather want to have a Zumo sat nav otherwise your phone will not work when you have finished your trip.Cheers.

[@timrodierides]

Yeah I can imagine when you're properly off-road it's loads better. Can it navigate you around herds of Kudu?

[@neilcudmore2086]

OK, one thing no one seems to comment on is, that a Sat. Nav. doesn't get lost when there is no phone signal. Travel through a place where there isn't a mobile phone signal with a Zumo or other dedicated Sat Nav. no problem. But, get 'lost' when using Google maps or whatever on a smartphone when there isn't any mobile signal and you're still lost!

[@mapsandnavigation433]

Magic Earth? TomTom? Sygic? All offline. Garmin, no problem with them, but is only a skin and a android navigation app (also) installed and available only on their devices . The only reason they do have their own devices, is more money for them.

[@stephanecorriveau6982]

For the casual user, you are correct. But the well initiated will download maps from google to their phones. This allows full use even when cell reception is absent. But I for one do prefer a dedicated satnav unit.

[@porter5877]

I can confirm earlswood McDonald's is terrible!!!. Thanks for info in the video dude ,think I'm gonna have to get one for gpx tet routes. The garmin is 20x better to read the screen on a sunny day compared to a phone screen.

[@reinhardneumann2600]

Thanks for this really entertaining clip. I use Garmin XT since a while now and I am happy with it. It does a good job. I do have a QuadLock mount as well for my phone, but I am actually not sure why..... The only thing I hate with the Garmin (but this was also an issue with my former TomTom): It starts to go wild when rain is heave enough since it thinks raindrops are fingertips. But this is pretty much the only negativ I can say about my Garmin.

[@chrischristofis8501]

Interesting i plan to fit a sat nav inside my screen above the console, will prevent this

[@hagnbike]

I'd advice not to look at pornography in busy traffic.

[@timrodierides]

You’ve not lived

[@foggydutch7412]

I think the value of the ‘gadget feeling’ makes people buy navigation system. Google Maps is still king 👑 above TomTom and Garmin.. and yes vibrations could cause a problem, but than again do not go off road with your phone in a Ram mount.. on highways it is perfect and saves me a lot of money on a external Navi system.

[@blandry021]

I just order the XT, replacement for my 14 year old Zumo. I thought this summer I would just use my iPhone on my Harley, did not work for these reasons, screen too small on iPhone 11, and it vibrate too much for my old eyes to see it.

[@starlordstarlordman8489]

Just stumbled on your channel. You’re freaking hilarious. I just had the rear camera on my iPhone replaced after 40 miles of riding with it on the handlebars of my Himalayan. Now that wasn’t vibration isolated, on the other hand, I rode for 16,000 miles on the same bike and the same mount with my Motorola G6 and it didn’t have any camera problems. Now to be fair the one flaw in that phone is it couldn’t really make a phone call. Life’s about give-and-take I guess.

[@elcapitanortz]

Been using my quadlock for 2 years I bought the one with vibration dampner I ride 60-80 miles nearly per day had no issues with my phone and I have the same phone as you.

[@ScragNath]

Just switch off data roaming on your phone when crossing Switzerland.

[@timrodierides]

Yup!

[@chrisdavisunofficial]

There are many fantastic riding spots on the East Coast of the United States where cellular reception doesn't exist. In the middle of the country, it's the same story. I'm in the Philippines right now and can confirm there are fairly large swaths of land where phones don't work. We're a very long time from where not having a GPS on an adventure bike makes sense.

[@DucatiDale]

Before looking at this vid I just ordered a quad lock as they’re 30% off at the minute Worst case for me would be a £100 insurance excess if the worst was to happen

[@maxrockatansky4060]

Just to add to this very useful review, during my last winter trip to Krystallrally Norway my garmin has performed perfextly in temperatures down to -15C whilst all of my friends mobile phones and tablets gave up at -5C. So in one hit you loosing navigation and call-for-help resources

[@albertocebrian4976]

I couldn't agree more. I don,t want my phone "bouncing" on the handlebar and risking loosing it, and yes, Zumo XT might be expensive but a new "top" phone nowadays is way over that price. Also, I live in Spain and I have had some overheating problems with my phones when navigating+charging+music during my summer rides; that's what finally made me get a dedicated gps a few years ago

[@Jim-nm1en]

I found when driving LGV's or delivery vans that I used my dedicated satnav for main guidance but used my phone to get postcodes for cafes, petrol stations etc. Do the same on my bike so best of both worlds.

[@paulwilson9616]

Just watched your review I couldn’t stop chuckling I do love your humour anyway you’ve convinced me I’m going for the Garmin XT.🤘🤘

[@davidlythgoe8478]

Just bought a Zumo XT for my KTM. Also subscribed to My Ride basic whilst waiting to have it fitted to the bike. Your review has convinced me that I've done the right thing. Thanks...

[@Alan_Anderson]

Interesting review, thank you Tim. I have experience of using older Garmins on bikes and recognise that speed was definitely an issue; if you deviated from the route it expected you to take, you could be faced with further route decisions before it had caught up... My preferred navi solution on my bike for a couple of years has been a Beeline - I love the simplicity (and having my phone still in my pocket) but recognise the limitations of the system and that it is not for everyone, and not a solution if you want "proper" mapping. I am in the process now of setting up my old phone as a satnav on my bike (yes, with Quadlock) and will be interested in how that works - main driver for that is to be able to use the RallyMoto roadbook app on my bike, which needs a phone to work, but I will also undoubtedly use "normal" navi apps as well when I want a change from my Beeline, which sits alongside the phone on a Givi accessory bar.

[@CharlesLindsay1]

Phone screens aren’t as bright as the Zumo, and in my experience, phones overheat when in direct sun, unlike the Zumo. There are ways around this (mount the phone with lots of ventilation, angle it downwards, so as not to catch the sun, etc.), but neither are issues w the dedicated nav system.

[@nikoscosmos]

Mobile phones are for taking photos. However next season I'm going to mount mine next to my new XT just for " fun ".

[@madmotobg]

I wonder if to buy this, although now I use my old Samsung S21 for a satnav. But my biggest issue with Google maps is that I cannot save a route how I want it. But 500 EUR for this, I am still thinking..

[@philwoods2534]

I have the identical setup and find it great within its limitations. I also purchased the Touratech locking dock which allows me to leave it on the bike when its in view without some light fingered so and so making it disappear. Everyone I know whose had a quad lock has had issues from them disintegrating or disengaging......Hmmmm

[@mr1hander]

lets be honest...the youngins whod probly mostly never get caught dead on an adventure bike... the trend is definitely changing though. riders after 35-40 start to have close up vision problems.. when on trips, i prefer to have a dedicated larger screen for nav, and trying to fumble with a tiny screen with gloves on.. for me there is no comparison, they are different tools..and one should never replace the other...great vid.

[@Galvoflysoz]

Android devices with dedicated apps give you so many more options and can always change apps. Like Gaia and others. Som much more can be done . Buy a cheaper rugged android device and put whatever mapping you want. Your never stuck with just Garmins software.

[@zombiejase]

Does this show live traffic like on your phone so yiu can re route if you see jams up ahead to where your riding to?

[@dickiemcgeezacks9458]

I wonder what you think of the Ottocast CarPlay Lite C5 in comparison to the Zumo XT. I have and love my XT, but now that there's a pocket Android Auto/CarPlay for bikes all of that product's videos are making like a Zumo XT is a relic of a bygone era, to be lamented and forgotten for the rest of time, to the point that they make up complete bullshit lies about what the Zumo XT can and can't do. It's really quite weird. The Lite C5 runs off of cell signal and everyone turns into a stuttering mess when I ask 'What happens if there's no cell signal around?'

[@EWAScotland]

Like the review, funny and informative. I’ve actually bought a refurbished older iPhone which I only use on the bike. Doesn’t have the camera tech to ruin so I’m not too worried about damaging it. However, the downsides are the phone is not waterproof, if I lose signal it stops functioning properly and finally, in the heat of the summer (🤷🏻‍♀️) it can (and has) just shut down! I actually agree that a satnav device is probably better, but the Garmin 346 I had was just awful. As for the XT, I just wince at paying £350 for it, and the XT2 at £550 is just ridiculous. If you are a dedicated tourer then it might be justified, but for local riding and the odd excursion I don’t really see it gives value for money.

[@farcloud3701]

US owner of a Zumo XT for over 2 years now. Agree with your assessment - you buy it for it's "I want to travel this road, not that highway" routing capability - which google maps won't do. That said how could you not mention Zumo's skeleton in the closet and bane of it's product line: Basecamp. For route planning this 1970's like software is still required.

[@joannad5374]

These gorra fly on yer head!

[@13371011337]

Used to always reccomend tomtom because easier and cheaper, but since the price has come down so much, it's basically a steal!

[@onahi2002]

I wasn't going to comment, Anyway....... And I'm certain this has been mentioned in the comments below, But you've omitted the most important reason for a stand alone GPS Satellite Navigation unit. The stand alone Sat Nav doesn't rely on internet data to work ! And Trust me, I've been to places where there was Zero internet. Its the same reason I have all my music installed onto my phone. Because It doesn't matter where I am, It will work.

[@timrodierides]

What a lovely comment. Can’t believe I made it to the end

[@onahi2002]

@@timrodierides Honesty. Sorry if I've offended you. Sending hugs !!!!!! 99% of all videos uploaded wont get views to the end. Sorry if that hurts you ? Impressed by the speedy response ! Just realised this is the Host! So, any comments on my comment ?

[@onahi2002]

@@timrodierides Tim, Maybe public forums are not the place for such sensitive soles. ?

[@timrodierides]

@@onahi2002 Not a problem - I just don't get why people decide they can just say mean things to other humans on the internet. And why they're inevitably a Nigel. But anyway, you make a good point about not needing a data connection.

[@onahi2002]

@@timrodierides I'm genuinely sorry for my comment. Not in any way did i mean to upset you. Ill edit it ! My name is not Nigel. Its Karen LOL