2022 Japanese GP Race Review | WTF1 Podcast

Max Verstappen was crowned champion at Suzuka in a confusing, controversial and rain-shortened Japanese Grand Prix
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[@damon621]

Latifi's engineer knew they got full points. Hence why Latifi got told right after crossing the line that he got two points. So atleast someone knew!

[@arboris]

really, didn't even notice that one

[@soundscape26]

Twice the new classification with full points appeared on the TV graphs during the last laps but nobody, including me, paid any attention to that.

[@mtrps_]

lando's too

[@zulubunsen9067]

@@mtrps_ No, Lando's engineer only confirmed that the race was finished halfway through the circuit -- listened to it live. The "drivers' over the line radio" video is heavily edited. Lando was going full pelt after crossing the line, Latifi was as well, I'd bet he was only informed later too.

[@zulubunsen9067]

Okay, just checked to be absolutely sure. Latifi was at 130R (after he got the checker), when his engineer told him that the race was over -- so almost a full lap later. The "two points" comment was only made when Latifi stopped the car in the pits, *not* right after crossing the line. As I said, the "over the line radio" is absolutely unreliable in this regard.

[@chrisp120780]

27sec in 28laps that’s greatness, insane drive

[@soundscape26]

Less actually... some 22 laps. But Charles' tyres were cooked by the end of the race.

[@hxDaan]

@@soundscape26 thats a skill issue tbh

[@vayush08]

@@hxDaan and car issue too, some just have high deg

[@soundscape26]

@@hxDaan Partially... cars degrade tyres at different rates so you can split the blame.

[@StevenQ74]

@@soundscape26 Yeah, Max went 1 second a lap faster and his tires looked much better after the race

[@dennisp.6265]

Timestamps: 0:00 - Greetings 3:23 - Three Word Race Reviews 4:27 - Max Verstappen, new world champion 9:43 - Tommy: "Bizarre Championship win" 17:20 - Commercial 18:23 - What happened with the points in the end? 26:48 - Did Charles deserve the penalty? 32:19 - Why did the FIA not inform anyone about the points distribution regulations? 38:38 - Is it time to write a new rule book for 2023 which is easy to understand? 45:55 - Katy: "A new low" 1:05:02 - How would you have cleaned up the track after Sainz' crash? 1:08:05 - Matt: "Wets need changing!" 1:16:08 - Should teams be forced to help develop full Wet tires with Pirelli? 1:21:03 - Should the race have started earlier? 1:27:56 - Is it common for races to rain away like in Spa (2021) and during this weekend? 1:29:23 - What the hell is Latifi doing up there (in the points)? 1:32:47 - Did Vettel benefit from his spin? 1:35:24 - ABCDEF1 1:49:32 - Predictions 1:57:03 - Final Thoughts

[@coolboymusicrecords7612]

Thanks

[@vitleyssill3273]

❤️❤️❤️

[@kkkkkkk140]

Absolute animal

[@rossevers]

😊

[@FidgetSpinoza]

Lords work

[@joostprins3381]

Max hated that chair, it was hideous and you could see how uncomfortable he was sitting in it.

[@joyl7842]

I think he just prefers to be chatting with his peers and mates while watching the race's events.

[@Kessoku]

@@joyl7842 did you mean laughing at Leclerc cutting corners?

[@joyl7842]

@@Kessoku good one!

[@peterfconley]

It was so silly. “It’s quite lonely in here” 😅

[@ImRezqoo]

@@Kessoku weirdo

[@SinisterDexterity]

This podcast is longer than the actual race

[@CosRacecar]

This podcast was 2 hours for a 40 min race. The Singapore podcast was 40 min for a 2hr race

[@FirestormX9]

@@CosRacecar gotta keep it spicy

[@rosek7114]

I'm so, so sad that we didn't get a proper celebration for Max... No fireworks, no Iconic Chrisitan team radio, no outbursts of emotion, not even a shot of him crossing the finish line!😢 He did an amazing job though. 27 seconds lead in 28 laps (in the rain). One of his many great drives this year. Well deserved Championship for him❤

[@marcel421]

Can you imagine if this would be max his first championship? 💀😂

[@vsam3861]

It’s okay I think there’s some budget left for a big bash at the next race don’t worry 🎉

[@josiahboatengmyrie]

This ones tainted as well I’m afraid the gains they made breaking the cost cap carried over into this year

[@Sem5626]

yeah i don't feel sorry for the situation at all knowing they cheated so much last year... they've had a massive head start on everyone else this year so no wonder they are so far in front hell even Checo has been winning races lol

[@gollese]

People need to stop sucking the damn plumbs, no matter how much you twist it with "This one is also tainted" But to 2 ppl above me, you know what, Max is a two time world champion! 🏆🎉

[@chrisvillanueva___]

I could never skip Katy's words. Some other KZbinrs from different countries have spoken about the same matter for 2 hours and Katy has just summarized beautifully everything that has to be said in a couple of minutes. Thanks Katy!

[@kcrkarter]

I loved Katy’s passionate rant about the FIA. It’s so pure and I really felt that.

[@AMR-555]

I knew it was coming the second I saw the tractor replays. Waited all this time for this. She never disappoints.

[@alanturton3394]

I can’t get enough of you 3! Absolutely love this podcast. Great job!

[@Southpawdg1]

Looking at how close the Ferrari’s were to Red Bull in qualifying and then to see Max literally run away from Charles by a second a lap I think Max really did prove he is on a different level in the rain. That pass on outside at turn 1 & 2 was impressive. He did the same move to Rosberg at 2016 Brazil.

[@kityhawk2000]

Max is good but I think it's pretty clear by now that the Ferrari has terrible race pace. It's basically a slightly better version of the 2013 Mercedes. It can get pole position but that's literally all it can do.

[@Southpawdg1]

@@kityhawk2000yea that’s why I gave the example from 2016. That Mercedes was much better than Max’s Red Bull and he was still able to pass on the outside at turn 3-4

[@beastunleashed657]

@@kityhawk2000 it's race pace isn't terrible, but the RB with Max is a league above. With Checo it's closer

[@josiahboatengmyrie]

@@beastunleashed657 exactly whether you like it or not if you want to see someone challenge max we need Lewis Hamilton

[@beastunleashed657]

@@josiahboatengmyrie ye but Hamilton won't be there for too long now, unless he turns out to be an Alonso type. Charles and George are best options for future

[@DasE30Cuz]

I don't want Daniel's race to go unnoticed here. He was one of the last to change to inters and still finished a couple seconds behind Lando, who by the way was a bit more timid than usual in these conditions.

[@tubadude07]

Agreed!

[@scienceByV]

Sochi 2021 memories

[@FarrYaweh]

It was good to watch, bittersweet though because he was dealt another bad hand.

[@Allblue1]

i mean every driver did a good job ricccardo at the start was amazing but ocon,vettel,alonso,max,perez were better that day

[@SpeedyCM]

Terrible decision for him to stay out when everyone else pitted. In two laps Norris went from 17? to 9, Riccardo went from 8th to 14th.

[@Drjos]

Maybe add the FIA to ABCDEF1 just so we can see how they go on during the season. This week a massive F ofcourse

[@Luxx0002]

Podcast 3times as long as the race! Good job guys!!!

[@EvLSpectre]

My favorite at the end was still Max going, Wait are you sure? Huh okay... Takes a seat awkwardly for a minute and just Goes I'm lonely over here. And goes back into the cool down room.

[@FirestormX9]

Goes to show just how much of an impact all the confetti, champagne and celebrations make.

I wait for this podcast more than I wait for the race!

[@lukebodiam8297]

Same

[@Allblue1]

there is more to life

[@emmata98]

I mean I can't watch the race, but watch the podcast...

[@Rob2]

The length of the podcast - 2 hours - was nearly as much as the red flag period in the race!

[@udayrandhawa3528]

Best matt quotes of the year “He is Inevitable “

[@mrstroncium400]

In the latin american broadcast the commentators kept saying that the f1 graphics were wrong because they were giving full points, even in the podium celebration they kept saying it was wrong until they read the rules word by word. So yeah, definitely the whole circus was confusing everywhere

[@robertsmith4474]

Verstappen offered to help Pirelli test wet tires during his post-race press conference.

[@999999SkyGuy]

*championship post race press conference - because Sergio & Charles were forced to leave. Sorry for being a smartass. Nice from him but knowing the current FIA panel, clark of the course, Pirelli employment & the stewards (however is required to green light that) this will come to nothing. 1. This would be an advantage for Max & Red Bull already had an advantage in 2021 against Merc. 2. It's not environment friendly to waste this much water (flying across the global and driving in questionable countries improves the 'climate' 🤡) 3. Hey, Pirelli build us better tyres. - How? Well, it worked in 2022 - No! That's the reason why Max mentioned it. Oh, okay - well I guess...I don't know has anybody an idea how we can improve the tyres?! (4. Fire Pirelli because some tyre compound is always below the standard) Sorry, got a bit lost there.

[@sameerdodger]

"offered to help"? lol, you mean offer to test the tyres to make them suit him? there's a reason this isn't fair unless all drivers get to test them.

[@999999SkyGuy]

@@sameerdodger Yeah, it's possible to spin everything he said a certain way. You people are amazing 🤣🤡😂

[@Mennoo_]

16:50 The bigger confusion is: Earlier this year at Monaco the race was also stopped by the 3 hour time limit for the event. But that wasn't a hard stop but this +1 lap after Perez crossed the line. At that moment there was a lot of confusion for commentators who didn't know if we would get this 1 extra lap or not, but we apparently did. I think what went wrong this weekend was that the time went on 0:00 and they were thinking. Ow the clock stopped and the leader just passed the finishline, then this has to be the last lap, without realising that the leader actually passed the finishline with still some time on the clock

[@Mennoo_]

@@gmarz9611 Nope. People including me watched it back on F1tv by watching live stream, the live map tracker, the onboard of max compared with onboards of leclerc/perez and the timer in the live feed, and came to the conclusion that max crossed the finishline with around 5seconds left on the clock

[@Digggyyyyy]

Thank you for highlighting how awful the FIA and Sky's treatment of the recovery vehicle incident was. I genuinely felt sickened listening to the pundits blaming Gasly when there is no universe where these tractors should be on track with the cars, let alone in the awful conditions they were racing in. They all owe Gasly an apology at the very least, and they need to ensure this NEVER happens again.

[@Crotes1990]

I was so incredibly angry at the FIA regarding what happened with the tractor. I kinda hoped Pierre would come in the pits, take his helmet off and went straight to his hotel, just to make a statement. Disgusted with how the FIA responded (or the lack of) #ripJB17

[@FreightLurker]

I honestly think the Pierre (or the Drivers as a group) should sue the F1/FIA for reckless endangerment. Their own report said it is too dangerous it would be very difficult for them to defend themselves in court. It seems the only thing F1/FIA will listen to is money, so sue them to force them to listen.

[@anirbanghosh6328]

Been waiting for this for so long. Clicked faster than Max

[@georgexylas7567]

If u have Spotify or Apple podcasts they upload the podcast on Monday if u wanna watch it sooner

[@abdurrahmanzakaria6571]

🤣🤣😭

[@jebus456]

@@georgexylas7567 i prefer the video tho

[@soundscape26]

Didn't know Max watched the podcast as well. 😄

[@georgexylas7567]

@@jebus456 okay well okay that’s different I’m just saying if u wanna watch it sooner u have that option too

[@InshoMusic]

Inshō here! Glad that you liked the little jingle. I enjoyed the podcast as always! Have a great day.

[@lanecaroline]

I absolutely lost it laughing when Katy was like “FIA if you’re listening huns, call me” - Katy is so sharp and witty and y’all are the ideal 3 hosts, just so lovely I can’t say that enough!!

[@christinagrieser5664]

Sergio Perez is just a great wingman. I always have that one meme in mind where the guy says it ain’t much, but it’s honest work. Like in Abu Dhabi again, very honest work from Sergio. And a simply lovely championship drive from Max ❤️🤩🦁

[@WillowCreative]

there was a graphic halfway through the race that showed the full points finish being added to the championship and nobody commented on it, firmly believing it was reduced points Also the final lap after 00:00 only applies if its the 2h race duration, not the 3h (4h?) overall timer in which the race must be done. Something most people, commentators and drivers also werent aware of.

[@goldvisor]

thanks for that final lap explanation, i wasn't aware of that rule

[@m.vanbatenburg5902]

Then again, the FIA failed to broadcast Max going over the finish line, so I doubt they really knew what was going on

[@patmath1000]

Latifi was told he got 2 points immediatly when he finished.

[@path_090]

@@m.vanbatenburg5902 Or, the TV direction knew how important the Perez-Leclerc battle was towards determining if Verstappen won WDC since they knew full points was at play.

[@jetzereitsma1276]

well, actually the rule book says the maximum duration is 2 hours + 1 lap of racing. Where if there is a red flag there can be an extention of the 2 hours up to a maximum of 3 hours. It does not say that in that case the +1 lap will not be driven.

[@looneyhorizon]

i want to go on record as a lewis super fan. i have been giving max praise since i started watching in 2017. people used to make fun of me for it. calling him Crashstappen. 2021 is still a touchy subject for me but this year really cemented max as a world champion to me. he really drove near perfect all this season. car trouble was his biggest failure. absolutely incredible. but hopefully merc can take it to em next year! ❤️ you all!! ❤️F1❤️

[@renegerritsen6178]

Merc, Ferrari or an outsider like McLaren, Alpine or Aston Martin (they at least have the budget to do much better than they do now). We need close fights, but Ferrari keeps screwing that up :( I'm a Dutch person by the way and therefore enjoy the dominant performance of Max, but I also love seeing him fight for it. Last season was epic, because it should have ended with two world champions. There was nothing between the two title contenders. This season there was just no match for him. Fun to see for once, but not something I want to see next season again.

[@EpicToastie]

Katy is genuinely the GOAT, absolutely love her on the pod

[@Bugatti024]

Max absolutely has dominated this year, he deserved the championship 100%. Can’t help but feel it’s a bit like Jensons’s win with the first year of new regulations, someone had to get it right first. Looking forward to more competition from the other teams next year

[@gemberkoekje]

Just imagine Max not DNFing on those first few races

[@lewisroach8723]

Hi, i'm commenting again asking if we could get chapters in the video to know what subjects are being discussed when. You did it at least once before, I saw it.

[@jeffduncan02]

Maybe change the schedule so GPs in Asia aren't during monsoon season?

[@Kaveman907]

I listen to the podcast on my morning commute! Also I live in Alaska! The race was a 9pm race for me!

[@waverod9275]

Since I don't have Apple products and I can't seem to find anyplace else to give this: ***** (Five stars) These three don't feel like talking experts, TV commentators, or whatnot you might get on TV Formula 1 shows. Instead, they feel like they're three friends who not only love Formula 1, but know it deeply, and have given us the chance to hear their talking, In fact, they feel like not only are they friends, but they're your friends. Matt, Katy, and Tom love this sport, and love talking about it to each other.

[@the_fleeing_dutchman]

Concerning the Gasly "incident" one of the problems is the delta times. It just means you can't arrive sooner at a certain point than time X. So, in theory, you can go really slow at some point and then go really fast at another point and still arrive "on time". The delta time should be accompanied by a minimum and a maximum speed.

[@MrBusfreakinnsbruck]

In fact the austrian broadcaster said at the restart that full points will be awarded. He was sure, then got confused because all the teams seemed to be confused as well :D

[@DuskySavage]

Absolutely spot on, on all points. Points ruling fiasco, safety, and race duration. Something I've never considered on my previous times being at a track, was that the conditions could shorten the race. The FIA should reconsider the race start times and durations, with attention to factors shortening the race for attending fans. While trying not to complete disrupt the global broadcast. I wake every qually and race times here in the U.S., its not fun but I love our sport. Keep up the fantastic work on the podcast!

[@aguywithanopinion8912]

Honestly, the fact that European times even come into the conversation is atrocious. Just start the race at 2pm local at every single track.

[@psymetric3684]

This was an amazing podcast, you guys gave me a great laugh for 2 hours. I barely listen to podcasts at all, but you guys always cheer me up. Thanks, keep up the great work!

[@wendymaryswart1340]

I always love the podcast. Feels like a bunch of friends chatting about the race

[@wgreenjr81]

the 3 hour window is the start of a good idea but implemented horribly. my thought is that there is 3 hours from the start of the race to restart the race to be run the full length (or 2 hours). That means that at any circuit that is not set up to be a night race circuit, they must schedule the start of the race to be at least 5 hours prior to no useable light. This would avoid the racing being stopped at its best, like we saw this weekend, it would also eliminate the points confusion we saw as any race that restarts, will be restarting for full points.

[@julienleroux441]

I think we should make a musical album as the f1 rule for the words, if everyone know the songs, everyone know the rules! (Sorry for my english, french wtf1 fan here!)

[@siksadwrld_]

Peter Windsor explains it very well in his videos: Red Bull are the only team doing proper long runs every race weekend, Ferrari are more focused on qualifying in fp sessions.

[@pilot2983]

Poor Frank waiting at the door, waiting for Lord Founder to open for him lol

[@ericktb4]

Question. Back in 2019 Mercedes admitted to having worked during the summer break. Which is against the regs. Nothing happened to them. To me summer break regs and budget cap go hand on hand. You can get an advantage. If they aren't followed.

[@Hoolygan4ever]

Same year Ferrari cheated with their engine power and got settled with an 'undisclosed agreement. Any other team would've been dq'd fron the title

[@mwal853]

not to mention the million dummy pitstops mercedes did, never got anything for that either.

[@ericktb4]

@@Hoolygan4ever I dislike the hypocrite behavior. Mercedes and Ferrari pushing for the harshest punishment. Yet, both breached regs and got away free. FIA needs to punish red bull. Not the drivers. If the drivers are punished. I feel like the FIA would also need to punish Ferrari and Mercedes. Mercedes won the 2019 constructor and driver's championship even tho they breached the summer break regs. At least to my understanding. Mercedes said they did. Going to take their word. Some people told me that summer break regs weren't there in 2019. FIA can't just rewrite one wrong. They need to rewrite all of them. If I'm wrong about the summer break regs and or about Mercedes admitted they worked though the summer break please let me know.

[@jungleboogie78]

How about the party mode in q3 which gained them dozens of pole positions

[@vedranb87]

F1 Graphics team has read the correct parts of the rulebook! :D Everyone else was busy reading the sections about financial regulations real quick.

[@tylermaclennan1420]

Katy speaks for all of us on why the tractor was on the track

[@FustitaAlbastra]

Listening to this at work, office job, doing overtime

[@gollese]

Max Verstappen - Two time WORLD CHAMPION

[@mrc0a124]

I watched the podcast on my way and during my break at college loved every minute of it!!

[@gabrielgomes9974]

Extreme wet tyres should be mandatory until race control says otherwise. We have something similar with DRS not being enabled until the race director decides is safe to do so. This would take the option to increase the risk for extra performance from drivers and teams and it would allow races to go on when now there's a concern everyone will just switch to inters and then it wouldn't be safe to race anymore

[@aleximraypapineau]

There should be a specific flag waved to indicate drivers have begun their final lap. Maybe striped black and green? It would be especially useful for situations like Suzuka.

[@cba_2442]

White flag

[@AndreSomers]

@@cba_2442 has a different meaning: slow moving verhicle on track

[@niemannicole]

Daniel immediately getting Katy one point in Austin showing up on a horse with an American flag jacket, cowboy hat, and full facial hair

[@lanovyr2497]

They need to extend the hard stop and start races an hour earlier... too often we're getting close to or hitting the hard stop and it seems like it should really be a blue moon event. Especially in this new era where we don't like racing in the rain

[@GalliumChef]

Love the pod always listen on my way home from work!

[@nixeifoit]

Austrian television knew it from beginning that full points get awarded :)

[@jeniferramirez4321]

I live in the USA I have to wake up early ever single race if I wanna watch sometimes I have to wake up at 4 or 3am to watch practice and I’ve done this for 9 years

[@Sfearns91]

Petition to get that abcdef1 intro for the Japanese edition locked in forever

[@rachelkoiks]

Max can’t catch a break to winning a championship normally. So guess he has to win next year and try again & hopefully he gets that deserved celebration at the finish line.

[@AlmostCH]

Watching from Japan, absolutely love how long it was this time 'round to be honest! I watch it every Wednesday morning while I do my chores around the flat and entertain the cats

[@paulyost3477]

Just saying for us Americans at least here in indiana the start was scheduled for 1 am but then there was a delayed start then the delay for the red flag. I literally fell asleep just as the cars were leaving the pits to finally restart the race at god knows what time and ended up missing the actual race and max winning the world championship it sucked

[@mikemelina7395]

Yeah, I stayed awake for it, by the time I finally got to sleep the sun was up.

[@Rubenluisn]

In PT every race usually sucks😂 gotta wake up at 5:30 on a Sunday to watch. This is the only one I could just stay awake for

[@enexius67]

Started at 12am for me, but yeah I was wide awake for the race, but then I gave up and fell asleep right before they resumed the race and I woke up to Mick leading the race lmfao

[@TheLA384]

Don't worry, we all missed max winning the world championship. Him crossing the finishline was never aired XD

[@FarrYaweh]

It's an international championship, next time have a nap bud!

[@isti1986]

In italy there was a recovery vehicle btw on the track, when Ricardo's car stopped. ( I hope I remember the track correctly, but there was definetaly a recovery truck on the side of the track. Check the replay, I think one of the cars was also almost hitting it.) Wonder why noone is talking about it/noone was talking about it

[@maxk2506]

I love how they talk about waking up ar 5am to watch.... me over here in Canada staying up to watch it at 1am! 😆 🤣 😂

[@WhiskyCanuck]

Something that caught my attention from the tractor incident: it clearly shouldn't have been released to go to the stopped car, but on top of that I was surprised to notice that there wasn't a flashing yellow emergency light on top of the vehicle to draw attention to itself, especially in low visibility conditions like that. You see that all the time on roadside construction sites.

[@Banyo__]

Given the time difference, the insane start, drivers almost dying, the lengthy rain delay, and then the restarts, by the end of this race, I was genuinely so exhausted, I just didn't care. I felt like the end of the race, put my out of my misery and I went straight to sleep. I'm no Max or RB fan, but given what all went down last year, I felt for the guy not having his race win shown, and sort of kind of finding out he had won, and then the whole awkward shuffle about through confusion. He fought hard this year and deserved every bit of his win, but this race was a s--t show.

[@rickgal5597]

The Paul Ricard circuit has a sprinkler system installed that can simulated a wet race...

[@tamiyafrog]

The problem with the full wet tires is the fact the FIA won't let them race in conditions that require them. Red flag when it rained harder and they pulled the safety car in after it was dry enough for inters. Button mentioned it as well when asked about the inters vs wets.

[@dominichoogendijk]

It used to be with some exceptions, every race started at 14.00 localtime. we should go back to that.

[@joyl7842]

The last time I remember F1 raced in even wetter conditions is 2016 Brazil, but maybe that's because I remember it so vividly due to Verstappen's amazing performance that day.

[@Querientje]

In germany verstappen won rain race with a 360 that was 2019 i think

[@patmath1000]

If Max was a ferrari drives this year he would be champion also.

[@philb8437]

Always did and I still do love Katy's rants. Don't stop doing those !

[@juliai8258]

The recovery vehicle made me think of a few races ago when the tractor was driving on the damn course WITH cars going by!!!! I’m a new f1 fan but was shocked to see they allowed that and add in the weather conditions of this race…. I hope they take this seriously

[@patmath1000]

When Latifi finished he was told he got 2 points plus the full points was clear during the race.

[@maschell]

This is wrong. With the "50%"+ table P9 also gets 2 points

[@markriley4100]

I personally dont think you can blame Pirelli for the wet tyres being unusable. It's been said before, but they made the tyres F1 want. F1 need to do an investigation into the wet tyre compounds and update the requirements of both the full wets and the inters to ensure that no one is risking inters in those conditions (at the start of the race). I'm not suggesting making the inters worse, but if there is this much of a problem with the wets then I'm sure the inters could be improved to clear more water while still being good.

[@MissAmynae]

Katy rules rants are my favorite rules rants. Go OFF!! (Not including the Gasly rant, which should never ever have to happen again, but it all needed to be said. I was tearing up during your segment, Katy. Massive hugs to you.) Re: Gasly. I was VERY emotional as well. It was around 4 am here in the US by then, and I very well may have woken up my neighbors with my tearful ranting. Absolute furious helplessness. I just desperately wanted to give Pierre a hug. I'm SO glad this was my first weekend watching on F1 tv pro. I might have broken my television if Sky was the commentary I heard. F1tv at least were vehemently angry, and not implying any fault to Gasly. This entire race was such a fustercluck, and I hate hate hate that it was the championship decider. (sorry for all the edits. listening/writing from Virginia, USA. Just moved here from Austin, about 5 miles from CotA.)

[@sydliquid2152]

They could always test wet weather tyres at Paul Ricard. It has a build in sprinkler system to wet the track for this kind of stuff.

[@Zander271]

The blank looks of Tommy and Matt when Katy started talking about the rule book LOL

[@unthenner5519]

😑

[@seanoneil4573]

I believe if a more competitive full wet tire existed almost every problem we've seen in the last few years at races in the rain would have been fixed. This year in particular we've seen Monaco, Singapore, Japan all with major delays because of, at least in part, water on track. Teams and drivers will do everything they can to stay away from the wet tire because it is so bad that the FIA won't let them race in the weather the wet tires are built for because as soon as the inter might be faster someone is going to gamble with it, and very often crash. The FIA not letting cars on track during full wet conditions then extends the time it takes to get racing because 20 F1 cars with full wets will always be better at drying a race track than a medical car and marshals with brooms. Also why making the inter a softer compound than the wet seemed like a good idea to anyone is beyond me.

[@CammyBouse]

If you remove the tractor from the situation, Gasly was still travelling far too fast at that point on the track as Carlos' car was still on the track, and he knew that.

[@jalanhart]

Maybe the extreme wet tires shouldn’t be as good at displacing water as they are? Realistically most of the time they don’t end up actually racing when it’s proper extreme wet conditions, and even if they did, the tires get rid of SO much water that it’s ready for inters so quickly. There needs to be a balance between making the wet tires safe, but also make them useable for longer. The gap between them need to be shorter.

[@Duskraven377]

This podcast will be known forever for the mind-blowing revelation that the FIA isn't real. (Joking aside many congrats to Max, you deserve it the way you've been driving this year. Checo, great drive, your pressure sealed it for Max this weekend. Ferrari please improve so that you're legit _consistent_ contenders next year.)

[@Zeratheus013]

I love how they started using twitch lingo in their content. Great podcast as usual.

[@iancullen8314]

35.44 Michael Masi knew. And he sat back and watched it all hopefully pissing himself laughing. 😁

[@PulsingKrugotvoid]

Can we talk about the 3 hour clock in the first place. Like why is that still a rule? Get rid of that rule and the problem is solved. If you have light you race if not then race is off. I understand the 2 hour rule but the 3 hour one I just don't get

[@dtprodrive]

Honestly I think all podcasts from now on should be 2hrs long

[@djdsf]

Why do you guys never put on timestamps?

[@D.H.1987]

Because the whole podcast is great. And they go back and forth many times during the podcast

[@djdsf]

@@D.H.1987 What does that have to do with the fact that there are still topics and they can segment it in 10 min chunks if need be? Stop making excuses

[@D.H.1987]

@@djdsf stop making excuses and use the bar to skip to wherever you like or watch the whole damn thing

[@andrewlight32]

I'm sure not many will read this but the teams are to blame for the wet tire problem! Pirelli has said multiple times that they want to develop a wet tire that is better but it's the teams that refuse to help during testing because they say it's not worth it. So I understand why people are mad about the wets being so bad but you can't really blame the tire manufacturer for this one. You can blame them for a lot of other stuff though!

[@jebus456]

I thought of Katy's prediction too when I saw people dressed up for the race.

[@texantactical7787]

Isn’t the issue with deltas and VSC / SC that the safety car goes slower than the delta? Which is why drivers are able to catch the SC. With a VSC all drivers adhere to the same delta. Could be wrong but that’s always how I thought it worked.

[@hanszheng4875]

when tommy mentioned daniel i died a little inside

[@nma32asimrupani45]

Listening to this podcast while doing my physio therapy(ACL surgery)

[@reddmessiah6363]

I feel like you just have to look at the V8 supercars. Bathurst on the same day (ignore the fact that Masi was actually there) they have the raido message from race control with camera feed in their office as well. The transparency helps with the experience and clarity of the rules. For a race that had over 6 safety cars there was little to no confusion

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

Though that did not excuse the weird almost-incident with the Recovery vehicle. That was just unsafe!

[@reddmessiah6363]

@@greatsageclok-roo9013 oh 100% that should never of happened. In clear conditions they should wait till all cars are backed up at the least. In those conditions instant red flag

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

@@reddmessiah6363 I was referring to the one at Bathurst, but either way you're damn straight correct.

[@raulfelix3398]

more 2 hour podcasts please

[@Palmboom313]

You really contradict yourself. In Italy when Ricciardo was out and couldn't be recovered you said "Where is the recovery vehicle" "why so slow putting it out"

[@TjopStick]

Its mindblowing how many times Verstappen has change rules since he start in F1. From entering to F1 to change even 2 safetycar rules.

[@obione51499]

I think Brazil 2016 was as wet, maybe even wetter than Sazuka 2022, but maybe the ground effect affected the spray. I remember the spray being bad if they were directly behind a car, but if they moved away it was almost completely clear.

[@Wild-Duck]

Sainz made a mistake if you watch closely. He turned in slightly to quick, came off the ideal line and onto the wetter part of the track, which resulted in the spin. E is high enough. Otherwise he could have been there for the battle between Perez and Leclerc.

[@dohtje5029]

Difference this was a clear penalty with alot of precedence, even twice this year, both cases a 5 sec penalty. The safety car infringement isn't a really comon infringement, probably couse Checo does not drive at the front that much... (yes I went there 😏)

[@Adchetti]

Had to pause after the recovery vehicle discussion and rewatch Alonso's interview. When one of the best and most experienced drivers on the grid says he didn't know he'd even passed a recovery vehicle until he watched the replays during the red flag you know just how bad conditions were and highlights just how bad the decisions made were

[@Kessoku]

US at 2AM Mexico at 3AM Brazil at 4AM.

[@MogsterKupo]

I'm totally Katy right now... losing my two favourites in the same year. In fact it's been a painful two years. Daniel, Seb and Kimi are the drivers I've been rooting for week in week out for years 😭