2022 Kenworth T680 Next Generation: EXTERIOR REVIEW

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

I went from a truck with drums to my current truck with disc brakes and the difference between the two is definitely noticeable. Disc brakes are awesome!!!!! Love them!

[@SteshMM2]

Dot can't Chek brakes less stress for you.🤣

[@JT-fq2bl]

I just got my KW T680 3 days ago, and I noticed the brakes feel is much better than my previous truck, Freightliner Cascadia.

[@rapidroadsode8789]

I’ve always been under the impression that disc brakes could ever slow down such heavy vehicles

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

@@rapidroadsode8789 Disc brakes are definitely the way to go.

[@lazarus8447]

Yes sir, I ran heavy with drums and got switched to disc, night and day the difference.

[@thatoneguy985]

Brian you are quickly becoming one of my favorite people on KZbin The only other trucking channel that I watch is smart trucking

[@lknanml]

This one is gorgeous in the launch color blue in their ads.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

I’ve already seen 4 of these here in Virginia. Definitely love the looks of the new T680.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Seen 2 more so there starting to get out there.

[@supertruckerrolling]

Don't like the squaring of the fenders

[@SteshMM2]

My next truck I ordered next week. 😊 No more volvo.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

@@SteshMM2 I thought that the Volvo would’ve been a great truck. Would have possibly been a 3rd pick for me other than the Kenworth and Peterbilt.

[@supertruckerrolling]

@@SteshMM2 if a new KW is ordered right now you're over a year out getting it

[@andrewbarnett4621]

Brian I Love this 2022 Kenworth this is yours after your 90days challenge W9 replacement. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@andrewbarnett4621]

@@wheelburnerexpress well said Brian. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@memoperez3114]

I pouse the video and took a closer look and yes you did bent that peace a little and I now I'm not the only one who saw it lol 😂

[@toby3867]

Great video, looks like Brian had fun

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks Toby!

[@jessereese2576]

Thanks so much I got a 2016 t680 I haven't seen a review buy an actual driver I am so excited for the next generation I m saving for a 2022 your awesome

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for watching Jesse! Glad you enjoyed Brian’s review 😊

[@jorgejorge1440]

Im a freightliner guy but I really like how the 2022 kenworth looks

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Agreed! This is a great looking truck.

[@HunterPBrown]

I just got this truck myself. I'm going into new york from Texas in its maiden voyage. I'm excited

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Good luck!

[@707SonomaComa]

How do you like it now?

[@HunterPBrown]

@@707SonomaComa pretty good so far. 25000 miles and at 8.3 mpg. It's going in for its first pm tomorrow.

[@jamesharper7398]

@@HunterPBrown you have any updates on your T680 after one year ?problems or praise

[@HunterPBrown]

@@jamesharper7398 problems: the body falls apart easily. I've had to zip tie and drill holes into some of it to keep it holding better but I doubt it'll hold much longer. It's usually around the steps area that's falling apart. Basically cosmetics. The other complaints I have are more personal like replacing the radio because the buttons crapped out on it too quickly or the mattress it came with. But last year 2022, my ifta says my economy was at 8.41 mpg. And the only major issue that put me down for the count was when a coolant hose blew. Luckily that happened while I was on the yard so didn't need a tow, and warranty covered it. 280k miles, and she still running like a champ. I may never go to another after this.

[@CorneliusSRT8]

I love the Kenworth’s. Beautiful machines. One day I’ll have one of my own. Madly in love with the W990!

[@timothyfoley3000]

You will like the disc brake system. We have them on our newer Thomas Built School Buses. ( Transit style buses ) Very little fade. Better braking power. Stay cooler on long descents.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Good to know. Thanks for sharing Timothy!

[@frankswain9483]

The DOT sees disc brakes and moves on to the next item on the list. Also, much less maintenance, and the associated downtime.

[@markgregoryrugman7136]

The Kenworth T680 is my favorite track and if I own a semi truck it would be the next generation T680.

[@leejones9737]

Brian, this was the best review of a truck that I have seen.!!! Great job. You sell the truck without a doubt! GOODLUC2U

[@Outlaw_1320]

You can tell if an owner operator cares about his truck if he had Michelins all the way around. I like those heated headlights.

[@willmann30]

Yeah not everyone can shell out $500 for steers and drives. It's insane.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Quality over quantity!

[@aitransportservicesllc584]

Just put steers on my 16 Pete blew me almost 5k grand ya they expensive

[@Chris4mz]

So ... how long until E / T Transport decals are on the door ? Quality trucks could bring quality drivers to your door. Nice review - appreciate it 😊

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Great question… We will have to get back to you. Thank you for your positive feedback! Glad you liked the video.

[@TravisKinley]

I love my disc brakes on my 21 Pete. The stopping power is amazing. I don’t know that I’ll ever keep drums again. 💯

[@raceboy9517]

Late reply but are they still air pressured or is it regular fluid ?

[@TravisKinley]

@@raceboy9517 they’re still controlled by air - it’s just the actual mechanism that’s the discs. Amazing stopping power. Worth the money from a brand new build. Getting conversion could cost a lot more. My friend has a Volvo and they quoted him $20K for conversion.

[@rustydemz7919]

I'm in one...AUTOMATIC and lovin' it!

[@uria711]

SOOOOOO excited for this!!!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@vicbitter2142]

I drive a DAF in Australia that has the same drive train as the KW your reviewing (Both owed by Pacca) great truck but a Cabover, I know you northern and people don't like Cabovers but that's the world we live in here. Anyway try closing your eyes for 3 seconds, not easy to do, you need a good straight bit of road you know, the result is your seat will vibrat and a siren will go off in the cab as the truck thinks you maybe going to sleep

[@carlosaguirre1313]

Brian Good afternoon Nice truck , how mucho is this truck un the market. Thanks , nice for sharing the beauty Best regards 4 September 2021

[@kentr2424]

AT about 3:50 into the video, Brian mentions that the truck is 200 K (eek!!!)

[@carlosaguirre1313]

@@kentr2424 Thanks

[@kentr2424]

@@wheelburnerexpress Even if the fleet gets 25k off the price by buying in volume it's still an EEK on the price!!! lol

[@frankswain9483]

@@kentr2424 That $200K is a round number in Canadian dollars which is about $160,000 U.S. dollars.

[@thomtrucker1925]

I have got a disc brakes on my Volvo Fh more then 20 years. Anyway this truck looks very nice, I personally missing full tail lights, rear mudguards and rear lift axle for saving tyres and fuel.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

I’m thinking about driving for CFI just because they have the nice red Kenworths 👍🏻. I quit trucking 10 years ago. I was OTR a few years and never had a nice truck. Nowadays they give brand new rookies a nice red kenworth at CFI and I wanna drive one

[@BigIronBickle]

Beautiful truck great video

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks Benjamin!

[@ammarrafiq8328]

One day I come to Canada I driver this truck .😘👍

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Awesome!

[@belaidlmoumen]

Really it's a nice truck, Bravo

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Stay tuned for Brian’s Interior Review next week!

[@KR4Qep]

my company just handed me the keys to a new 22 t680 (i've only been with them for 2 months, this company is amazing) and the truck is gorgeous. i'm getting use to the storage, my last truck was a 2020 pete 579 which has its storage cons but a little more cabinet access. i've had one international that had great storage and the rest of my trucks were cascadias which to me have the best storage for otr but other than that, the quality of the cab is by far superior. it has so many features i've never seen in a truck before. it also rides like a cadillac. i've never had such a smooth drive. i'm not sure if it's just a new truck thing but it's an incredible drive so far. imo amazing truck, best one i've driven.

[@thetruckerslearningchannel3211]

2023 or 2024, once they get the bugs worked out. Never a first year run

[@moonrunnerlife1640]

There is a secret latch under the sleeper to open the bunk door above it.

[@janalbertholwerda5954]

Hey guys, this looks like great solid truck too me. Is the Paccar 500, a dutch DAF engine with the zf gearbox? There is a next gen DAF comming up too, end this year. My little brother love his DAF Superspacecab with the 530hp Paccar engine. My big issue on diskbreakes is de breakedust what will stick on your wheels. Please go one with this show. I like look the way you do your job over there. Greetz Jan from the Netherlands

[@isaiahkaulaity9467]

The hood mirrors need a different look, and too much black on the bumper and side skirts. Change those and it would be a great looking truck.

[@604h22a]

Cameras for the blind spots would be awesome instead of the mirrors

[@DavidJones-hr9bn]

Mirrors and the flat black trim areas are the most commonly damaged areas. Chrome mirror covers mean no paint matching when parts are replaced. Same for black trim parts. No paint shop means replace and back on the road in the same day.

[@jeffreydesormeaux3539]

I'd love to buy a truck on the future. Is it possible to ask for black chrome? Is that even an option?

[@simontallboy209]

Love disc brakes. I drive super b and the best set I drove had discs on the truck and trailers. Company was slow on maintenance so they were expensive, but they were great to drive.

[@haroldenglish943]

There Should be a bunk door release in the side box.

[@lrose625]

There is

[@truckingwithbigd4044]

Love the truck, I drive a 2020 T680. they definitely improved it next gen. Hopefully when mine gets time to retire, they put me in one of the new ones, but I have a while to go, only at 185k on mine. Company truck.

[@victormejia512]

Peterbilt if possible let us know fuel mileage I heard is key

[@JhonP58]

Man my dream truck right there love it.

[@lknanml]

Guessing if the CB antennas were any closer to the mirrors they would whistle.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Stay tuned for Brian’s Test Drive video!

[@lknanml]

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Throw the keys at him and lock the editor in a room till the video is done! Can't wait. So far this is my favorite of the newest trucks. Time will tell if it lights up like a christmas tree a few miles from the dealership. Sometimes I wonder if the sales contract has a microdot over an i about new owners being part of an extended quality assurance team...........

[@mikecioka1180]

There is not much difference between previous models. I wonder if is better fuel consumption

[@TheMarmaduke1975]

Always loved Kenworth quality.

[@jmendozas197]

This is the most good looking truck on the roads, IMO.

[@johnwilliams2427]

We had the adaptive cruise in our 680's three years ago...not a fan! Prefer Cummins over the paccar, manual over auto...

[@Jays1337]

Damn it looks good 🔥

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

So shiny!! ✨

[@robertallred2368]

Do you guys ever do car haulers?

[@Josiah_Harder]

Would love to see the inside too

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Stay tuned for Brian’s next video! We will be reviewing the interior!

[@samiullahalam1495]

So good

[@Michael.....]

Hey you should Do a Collaboration with Andy The Kenworth Guy 😊

[@frankswain9483]

He's doing a good job for ET even on his first vid! Andy is good, too, of course. But a driver, not being paid to brag on the product gives a bit extra credibility.

[@toby3867]

"If ya get one that's built on Monday or built on Friday she might not be so great" 🤣🤣🤣 one of the best sayings I've ever heard thanks Brian

[@mr.butterworth]

That slogan has been around for decades and may or may not hold true. But it makes sense.

[@toby3867]

@@mr.butterworth no need to get all scientific

[@truck6280]

@@mr.butterworth it definitely is true . And also the manufacturer plant , the ones in mexico are ass , do not buy a truck coming from mexico, they put all the cheap parts , the mechanics are meth’d out and don’t torque the bolts , shit falling off, coolant going everywhere . Etc… the manufacturing plants in the USA have better parts and great quality control

[@TNG64]

I’ve been listening to another doing a review on same truck🌴 he has found a few issues with body parts and interior noise. A year later, how do you like it?

[@HarlockG]

This thing is solid!

[@eugeneklemenz]

White how boring the 680 is a very nice truck very comfortable and rides nice not sure how the 4 bag is I had the eight bag

[@armbrusttelecommunications7787]

My next truck

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Awesome!

[@bradwilliams4921]

Brian, on various videos I’ve watched I’ve heard about Kenworth, Freightliner and Volvo but no one has said anything about Peterbilt 579 & 389 or the International Prostar. Considering getting into trucking. What is you opinion on these trucks?

[@kentr2424]

Sorry Brian, you lost me at Paccar MX-13 engine. I've had more blasted problems with that engine (in Peterbilts) than one man should have to deal with in a dozen lifetimes!!! Put a Cummins engine in it (and an 18 spd manual) and I think I'd be much happier with it. I don't think that you, being a old-school kind of driver, would like the adaptive cruise control. I had those "safety" systems on the last Pete I drove and quite frankly, I hated them. Why? Sensitivity - they're TOO sensitive. I often had the brakes slam on when a bird or a plastic garbage bag flew in front of the truck. Not a nice surprise when you're cruising along and suddenly your brakes slam on (they were NOT applied gently) when the nearest vehicle is a kilometre ahead of you! I also found that they weren't that reliable in poor weather, because the sensors would get coated with grime. I think that you WILL like the disc brakes, they're lighter and I found that they act just like the discs on your car. Good video and I can't wait to see your driving and interior review videos!!

[@red488truckneb]

I have no issues with my 2017 mx13. My T680 is plagued with electrical issues. I won't own another T680.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

What issue are you having with your MX 13’s?

[@kentr2424]

@@waynenorbreyjr9371 Check engine light comes on constantly, so it has to go to the company shop to get the codes checked and cleared. The techs don't tell me what the codes are or mean, but I'll put it in the shop 2 out of every 3 trips.

[@kentr2424]

I also broke a camshaft in California, which destroyed the lifters and valves on #5 cylinder (I'm not sure if they had to replace the piston). The truck was down for a month while the shop and Peterbilt argued about what needed to be replaced, and then because it was a warranty job it had low priority. This is a known issue with the MX-13's and there is/was a recall out for the bad camshafts.

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

@@kentr2424 Dang!! Sorry for the bad luck. I’ve been driving Paccar powered trucks since 2014 and my 1st from 2014-2016 I had no issues, just software updates and my 2nd truck was jus software updates and the crankcase ventilation module . My current truck I’ve had for almost 2 years has had some issues with the truck, but the Paccar engine itself has been doing just fine. Check engine light can be a bunch of various issues.

[@donnadickey5420]

I like the fairing at the back of the tractor. I'm a bigger person and it is tough squeezing in between the tractor and trailer. Kuddos to KW

[@lazarus8447]

FInding bumps in Concord.. Don't gotta worry about that, they find you. And they find you REAL fast.

[@hunter-maple01]

Ik pretty much close to nothing of these new trucks and dont care to...BUT i can make an exception for this one. These trucks look good going down the road and the feautures they have are way more advanced then the ol 2001 w9 dont mean i prefer these over the old tho 🤣 in my book id buy it

[@Brararaf101]

yep driving a freightliner most my trucking career new job pete 579 kenworth my back feels better ride quality so roomy even tho they seem to have more issues and harder to fix i like the kw petes so superior gorgeous truck

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Happy to hear that you've been enjoying the new truck!

[@hayzeproductions7093]

Hood mirrors gotta go. They serve no benefit other than getting blinded in the face by somebody driving beside you on the interstate with their highbeams on.

[@williamrae9954]

If they were so keen on aerodynamics,they get shot of those hood mirrors and use cameras....personal choice,i'd still keep door mirrors though. Everything you stick on your truck costs fuel,sun visors,aerials even!

[@ronaldjackson764]

With these rates it will take me about 30 years 2 finish paying these truck payments.

[@707SonomaComa]

Would you choose this over a W900 or W990?

[@AK-ru5hk]

How much is the price for next gen?

[@yasirmohame]

The only time I get kenworth is when A company says we pay u bonus if ur kenworth owner.

[@georgewilson1184]

I can understand drivers don’t want to shift gears the city or rush hour traffic but me I can deal with it I despise automatic gearbox in a large truck I love shifting a big truck but I cannot drive a manual trans in a car or pickup LOL hey what the heck so what I want to suggest for those drivers that get lost in multi speed shifting how about the old reliable 5 or 6 or 7 speeds no repeating shift pattern no tricky range change & no tricky gear splitting no getting lost in the gears strate shifting transmissions good solid safe dependable and it’s a manual it gives you your dignity as a professional driver you get to keep your self respect when you look at yourself in the mirror in the mornings

[@hectorortega9131]

I'll take one in Monster Green please..

[@ammarrafiq8328]

My dream to driving truck.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Make it a reality!

[@yagizroseburg5428]

Europe is 10 years ahead of the US when it comes to technology and comfort in trucks.

[@jeffschmalz7939]

Bs

[@yagizroseburg5428]

@@jeffschmalz7939 well tell me when the North American trucks started getting disk break, truck parking electric AC, Webasto adaptive cruse control, lane departure sensors, automatic breaking system, navigations etc? All those things have been around for decades. Take a look at what futures European trucks have now. You have never seen any trucks outside the North American that’s why you said I’m bias. Just go to KZbin any type VolVo FH 750 or Scania 770S or Mercedes Benz Actros 2563 LS etc. Wake up and go to your dealership and ask them why don’t we have these ?

[@benjaminguess6555]

With they came in manual.

[@frankswain9483]

You can get a manual. It's cheaper than the auto shift, too.

[@benjaminguess6555]

@@wheelburnerexpress I don't like them. I like having control over the gears. As long as you aren't driving like a dumbass your fuel mileage will be fine. Shifting gears is part of trucking. Makes it a lot more enjoyable.

[@kubeanie18]

Same mirrors and hood mirrors sleeper and doors from previous years. funny how all new has so much carry over

[@scarlett-walker4908]

like the video

[@truckerownerops]

Put up against 379 Peterbilt with a cat 😺 no chance for t680. But it looks nice yes. But 200k why? What makes it worth that. You can get a custom 389 Peterbilt cheaper. Just a thought. Lose the def man 😂

[@DavidJones-hr9bn]

Canadian dollars!

[@odedkapulkin571]

How much it costs?

[@franklackie2469]

I agree with Brian a nice paint job would make her very attractive

[@555sonap]

19:32 what is the exact dimensions This price includes vat??

[@ihtiyarih611]

..10:44 I'm agree with you. I don't like white T 680. I personally, like blue or dark grey T 680s, but not white.

[@gavnonadoroge3092]

i see that fuel theft didnt enter into kenworth design booth

[@Michael.....]

It Probably did.. But you gotta Pay Extra for that Extra Security

[@frankswain9483]

@@Michael..... There are MUCH cheaper when you order them on the truck than aftermarket. (Like $100 cheaper for each!)

[@kirktitgen2309]

It does have brake pads …no shoes 😆

[@pepsonautotransport1322]

Better not get one before me I'll be lol

[@timbroad4098]

Sign me up Ronen...

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Ha! Yes Tim!!

[@matthewconner463]

T 680 🔥🫵🏾 the most comfortable & roomie truck on the road OTR

[@pwm001]

I've been thinking of a career change and want to buy my own truck and start my own authority. I want a brand new truck because I have crunched the numbers and that seems to be the way to go for me. Only one problem: Where the HECK do you buy a new truck these days?!?! I've been looking at the T680 and I know there are shortages of a lot of things, but never thought this would be one of them. Anyone care to comment on this?

[@FredyLagos]

Nice truck, too bad it’s a paccar, a Cummins would of been so much better

[@willmann30]

With that MX13 it's good under warranty only. After that it's over.

[@frankswain9483]

Cummins is available if you prefer.

[@spiderbrandt4066]

Did you see the Dash , it s a Computer and if it goes down your in the Sh*%

[@AaronSmith-kr5yf]

Saw one of these a couple days ago on the road, thought it was styled by beavers with that stupid chrome grill. Maybe tone down all the chrome on that grill cause it looks silly, considering how sleek/unadorned the rest of the rig looks

[@gmerola2652]

Killer !!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

😎😎

[@Anti-Incorrect]

Looks a little better than its predecessor... Kenworth should get rid of bull face design on front... They should learn from international drop-nose trucks

[@hayzeproductions7093]

International = ShitterNational

[@Anti-Incorrect]

@@hayzeproductions7093 are you sure! ... Have you ever drove latest model? Do you know Volkswagen? Including Scania/ Audi/ Bentley/Bugatti/Cupra/Ducati/Lamborghini/Porsche/Škoda and others .. Helping navistar international to make better trucks!

[@hayzeproductions7093]

@@Anti-Incorrect im honestly thinking about flicking a match in the fuel tank of my volkswagen at this point. Dpf filter plugged 30k miles out of warrenty. And also went in for the emissions recall before filter failed. 3k for new dpf filter.

[@red488truckneb]

OVERPRICED JUNK! The one i looked at still came with projection headlights. The led headlights are not standard as on other makes. My 2017 T680 is junk. Maybe i got a lemon, but it has pushed me away from owning another T680. Paccar engine I have zero issues with, the electrical in mine is horrible.

[@mike-sk2li]

My company has 150 2020s. They are trading them in. To many issues and horrible down time. Electrical issues as you said

[@thejasongenovaarmwrestling1520]

When the electronic components are made somewhere other than China I'd start considering some of the new tech. But because I know the scam that is China and especially when it comes to electronics ill steer clear. Right now automakers can't even put their vehicles to sale because no one is getting ECM from the distributors lol. They've been making chips as usual they are just playing economic games. Nope anything with a single component made in China I'm out. China is ash hoe

[@frankswain9483]

@@thejasongenovaarmwrestling1520 I share your opinion of china, but probably 6 - 7 of the next 10 things you use/touch came from china.

[@eddieo8706]

I recall having a lot of electrical issues as well with a T680 I drove for an O/O. I loved the truck design and comfort(his had air bags on the front axle) but the electrical is a big turn off.

[@red488truckneb]

@@eddieo8706 I'm the same, love the design and layout. I just spent 5k on this. All electrical crap. Yeah, it's up for sale. Kenworth should be ashamed of putting this T680 on the road.

[@LOU-bg2wu]

Do INTERNATIONAL LT

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Haha, we'll check it out!

[@ezeb4]

Disc brakes on the truck and trailer are the only way to go

[@mr.butterworth]

I don’t understand why anybody gets hyped over new trucks, unless they’re a company driver. But for the small owner-op, they’re just a huge waste of money. The standard heated headlight lenses are funny - because the faddish LEDs don’t produce heat, but the heating elements are just one more gadget to crap out.

[@curbstomp3126]

Paccar 13 works way harder than the X15

[@skaiba9053]

Warning drivers: fuel tank and def are the same place 🙈🙈🙈

[@chrishar110]

If you can't recognize each tank you should leave your driving license on the desk before you get out.

[@910DC]

Lol if kenworth sees these videos buddy not reviewing another truck

[@jagjim1485]

Kenworth makes a great truck, bad automatic transmission. They can't get out of their own way. Terrible. Volvo's auto trans is much better, and more responsive. If I were to purchase a Paccar product, I'd skip the automatic, and go with a manual trans.

[@DavidJones-hr9bn]

Kenworth doesn't make the transmission! The transmissions are sourced from a third party manufacturer same as with Volvo, Freightliner, International,.....etc.

[@jeffschmalz7939]

True . My truck has been in shop over 2 months can't get parts.will never buy kw or Pete. Again

[@jagjim1485]

@@DavidJones-hr9bn I don't care who makes the transmissions, all I know is they're terrible if you need to get moving quickly. We slip seat at my work, so I've driven both the Pete & the KW versions, and they respond the same. SLOW! The rest of the tractor is great. Good visibility, comfortable. Just that trans makes me want to avoid the truck.

[@ammarrafiq8328]

❤❤❤

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

😎😎😎

[@allenflud]

Mack Anthem?

[@xamidilloyuldashev4487]

Hello

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Hello 👋🏼

[@jasonthompson5116]

You get there with pack Artisans only thing you're asking is headaches headaches headaches paccar engines is nothing but scrap metal they do not work good and they do not pull good you're basically a big pile of scrap metal and they will be like a money pit like a you better have a bank account is going to hold it

[@vitaquasus1120]

Why would a trucker buy an automatic those damn things break down so often. Next, Paccar has been horrible with DEF, absolute horror show for break down and down time. Has this issue been fix? Sure is a pretty truck, but grass burners make me nervous. I honestly do not know if it is reasonable but I prefer the exhaust to be high above my nose.

[@frankswain9483]

The upright stacks are pretty (when chromed) but heavier and expensive. The MX13 is on the order of 400 lbs. lighter than the cummins, but only serviceable at a Paccar shop. The new automatics are very reliable though more expensive to fix when broke.

[@vitaquasus1120]

@@frankswain9483 I know you are right, those beautiful chromed stacks are great to see, but behind my sleeper unattractive stacks get that exhaust way above my nose too LOL The newer Automatics still breakdown 100s of times more often than a manual. They do not give as good fuel economy either. Next who enjoys trying to hook a trailer in the winter with them. I did not know the new automatics were more expensive to fix. $$$$ wasted on them rather than train a trucker to be a trucker. that is my ancient trucker thought. The MX13 may be 400 lbs lighter and it is still junk (in my mind anyway) because they crap out with DEF far too often. The down time kills profitability even if they warranty fixes it each time. I believe weight is king most of the time, but Paccar needs to fix this maybe if they gave me a new Paccar in my next rig I'd take it but they'd have to give me a computer to force a DEF regen as well Have a great weekend bro

[@samirkasimov4934]

Well if you don’t handle automatic properly of course you will damage it. I drove automatic over 900 000 miles only thing I changed clutch in 490 000 thats all. Paccar improved engine and def, Paccar engine is lighter and quiet. Best fuel economy and more reliable. Cummins engine more powerful but it is heavy loud and not much fuel economy you get.

[@vitaquasus1120]

@@samirkasimov4934 what a fool thing to say.

[@chrishar110]

@@vitaquasus1120 What ever you don't know is a fool think to say. Did you ever had a new generation auto trans truck? Did you ever had a Paccar engine for hundreds thousands of miles? NO, of course not.