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2022 SUBARU BRZ vs 2018 SUBARU WRX STI

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Cameron Hill

Cameron Hill

Күн бұрын

Behold: 2022 Subaru BRZ vs 2018 Subaru WRX STI. STI Owner’s channel: / @kcmmedia1222
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- HKS cat-back exhaust
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@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 жыл бұрын
I knew the power to weight ratios were similar, but wow!
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
The man himself!
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
@@shishkebaba the STI is a joke
@Love_andthunder
@Love_andthunder 2 жыл бұрын
You would not say that if this was a real STI.
@sunnydee7745
@sunnydee7745 Жыл бұрын
The brz weights 2800lb, and the sti 3300lb, 500 pound difference, the sti is surprisingly kinda heavy lol
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 Жыл бұрын
@@sunnydee7745 well it's not too surprising, sophisticated AWD system and it's a 4 door sedan with a heavier, super old inefficient engine(heavy engine for its size). Ultimately, this is an embarrassing result for the STI.m yowza
@kcmmedia1222
@kcmmedia1222 2 жыл бұрын
This was a LOT closer than I though it would be.The STI won't be slow for long though! Thanks for the race Cam!!
@RandomlnternetGuy
@RandomlnternetGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Props to the passenger for keeping the camera steady.
@Crittek
@Crittek 2 жыл бұрын
The guy in the BRZ was better at shifting. (even though he missed a gear a couple times) If the WRX had a better driver and power shifted he would of took off. The BRZ is NA but the WRX relies on the turbo being spooled.
@nigelholland1714
@nigelholland1714 2 жыл бұрын
STO still sounds better and look better
@Kaz8693
@Kaz8693 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the brz a lighter car too? The race results seems to be expected especially at a roll
@bloodpoolxtc702
@bloodpoolxtc702 2 жыл бұрын
Was the Sti even in sport sharp????
@samwh4775
@samwh4775 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest we all expected the STI to put a decent gap on the BRZ 😅, I’m actually really surprised what that BRZ can do with that new N/A 2.4, imagine if it had the new 2.4 turbo boxer of the Subaru ascent or the new WRX 😰🥴😬
@avery4528
@avery4528 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5TTaGlnaJeSibs That engine wouldn't help much at all
@steve8803
@steve8803 2 жыл бұрын
sti's are really not fast at all, if you've ever driven one. They have great launch, which makes their 0-60 time impressive. But beyond that, they're slow as you've just seen.
@jonathannavarro6679
@jonathannavarro6679 2 жыл бұрын
The STI's strongest attribute is its launch. Negating its launch by starting from a roll isn't really much of a race at all. Launch is such an important part of an actual race.
@steve8803
@steve8803 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathannavarro6679 Launching is important in drag racing. But drag racing is boring, and to me is not actual racing. Actual racing involves turns.
@ralkia
@ralkia 2 жыл бұрын
If the BRZ had a stock turbo that kept roughly within its current budget, it wouldn't be as tight or as responsive as it is with NA. That's the entire point of the car
@darkknight830
@darkknight830 2 жыл бұрын
Lol at the nervous laugh of the guys in the STI, seems like they were not expecting your BRZ to be right beside them throughout the run. That 2nd gen BRZ is impressive!
@taelee347
@taelee347 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! People speculated Subaru down rated the new BRZ at 228 HP where it really should have been in the 240 range since it was putting down 40 WHP over the older one... so against the STI it is 60~70 HP down (allegedly) but also 600+ lbs lighter. Very happy for BRZ but this is also just another evidence that Subaru needs to do something about STI's engine...and this is coming from 06 STI owner... At this rate I'll end up with a newer BRZ before I get a new STI.
@Ieatzboltz
@Ieatzboltz 2 жыл бұрын
86 should be the same in the 240s then no?
@heyaisdabomb
@heyaisdabomb 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they give the STI at least 340 hp in the new gen. But I fear we'll be looking at 306 hp, for a massive gain of... 1 hp :(
@mrwick7961
@mrwick7961 2 жыл бұрын
supposidly the new sti will have 400ps with the new 2.4l engine, but will see
@wishingW3L
@wishingW3L 2 жыл бұрын
It's 40-50hp over the first gen but that's only because first gen was rated 200hp but it actually did 160hp. Second gen does slightly over 200hp.
@roydufruit6604
@roydufruit6604 2 жыл бұрын
First gen is rated at 200bhp and was making 160-170whp
@promodelred
@promodelred 2 жыл бұрын
This just shows how slow the STI really is
@francosaval1814
@francosaval1814 2 жыл бұрын
This, but ppl just don't like to accept it
@JonHop1
@JonHop1 2 жыл бұрын
@@francosaval1814 Its cuz its so heavy.. Once I gutted my STI, it made all the difference.
@josephfrenchmusic
@josephfrenchmusic 2 жыл бұрын
And it’s needed a better engine for a decade already
@WyattChurchill
@WyattChurchill 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Most won't admit, but yeah they're not very quick. I've got a 17 sti myself
@braedenlowe7174
@braedenlowe7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@WyattChurchill stock is slow as hell but if you build it right they are pretty responsive to bolt ons and a rlly good tune . My sti only has a intake and full exhaust with a dyno tune and from only that is pushing 330 wheel and 380wtq which made a massive difference. Now I’m keeping up and beating cars that it should’ve be able to lol p
@LuisGonzalez-fn8hz
@LuisGonzalez-fn8hz 2 жыл бұрын
That is nuts, I did not realize how fast the 2022 BRZ! Or how slow the STI is 😂 Regardless, that was such a good race
@BDA0531
@BDA0531 2 жыл бұрын
@@skatinemcee "Slow" is relative and somewhat subjective. My STI is far from the fastest car on the road but its plenty quick for me especially in the corners. I forgot how much people drive 800 whp cars in the comments
@BDA0531
@BDA0531 2 жыл бұрын
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Ok I agree in that Subaru should have beefed the STI to 330-350 HP within the past few years. Again, STIs arent known for straight line speed. The Camry would get absolutely dusted in the canyons by an STI
@BDA0531
@BDA0531 2 жыл бұрын
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Well yeah the Miata was made for that. However, thats like saying my 10K K swapped Civic would dust 90% of v6 and v8s on the road. We buy certain cars for specific reasons. Never bought the STI to be the fastest on the road lol
@charlielapp2427
@charlielapp2427 2 жыл бұрын
When you drive a WRX in the snow you quickly realize what it was designed for and it isn’t drag racing.
@shaunoflife4804
@shaunoflife4804 2 жыл бұрын
The Sti is not a roll race car. Most awd cars are not roll race cars. Should have did a dig and watched the Sti jump out a few cars
@rwt123_
@rwt123_ 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the mix of BRZ and type R content!!
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@larryfishkind5387
@larryfishkind5387 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting results. I can’t wait to see a rerun once your tuned as well . .. nice job. Great content
@kgthegreatone943
@kgthegreatone943 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be in Florida by the time someone figures out how to crack the ECU and start offering tuning solutions. So I'll have to find someone else in Florida
@diegolemus6105
@diegolemus6105 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camhill182 race the type r with the Sti
@CaldoBuilt
@CaldoBuilt 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegolemus6105 Stock type R will gap the STI 100%.
@artblackwood7936
@artblackwood7936 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun. It's shocking how well this car does against a bunch of cars that I thought would crush it.
@Tool0GT92
@Tool0GT92 2 жыл бұрын
So a stock brz could beat a wrx and keep up with an STI not bad
@AthenaAutocross
@AthenaAutocross 2 жыл бұрын
The BRZ is also 500-600lbs lighter than the WRX. (also looks like the WRX had a passenger, so that's another 150-200lbs). So you are looking at upwards of 800lbs difference there.
@Tool0GT92
@Tool0GT92 2 жыл бұрын
@@AthenaAutocross or 650 by your math. However the brz is meant to be a budget sports car not fast in a straight line. WRXs have been fast for a long time.
@AthenaAutocross
@AthenaAutocross 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tool0GT92 The old WRX sure, but the newer ones, not so much. Especially the 2018, which has a 0-60 that upwards of a second slower than the 2015. The 2018 is pretty common to pull a 0-60 of 5.7-5.8 seconds. It's not really quick like the older models, 2015 was good for 4.9 to 5.3 0-60.
@bryan8404
@bryan8404 2 жыл бұрын
600$ tune on the WRX will beat the STI.
@CarsOverPeople
@CarsOverPeople 2 жыл бұрын
@@AthenaAutocross That’s not a wrx, that’s an sti without the wing… the new brz would smoke the same year wrx
@Kai240i
@Kai240i 2 жыл бұрын
Dont't know why everyone is surprised. BRZ traps 101 1/4mile, sti traps 102-103, so they are pretty even out to 100mph.
@owenhilton2045
@owenhilton2045 2 жыл бұрын
That BRZ is quite impressive!
@EXOTIICxSWAGG
@EXOTIICxSWAGG 2 жыл бұрын
It actually looked like the brz was gonna pull ahead once the sti hit 5th too! and 5th is a pretty gnarly gear in the sti! damn these new brz are nice
@alexpiedrasanta7074
@alexpiedrasanta7074 2 жыл бұрын
Literally been waiting for somebody to do this race. Currently own a stock wrx, so it's interesting to know how quick the brz is. In a perfect world I'd probably own both!
@gaberon1
@gaberon1 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly ✌️
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 2 жыл бұрын
Brz will beat a stock wrx lol. Brz is quick!!
@aolla5457
@aolla5457 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommieboi707 This guy was saying he would gap new brz/gr86 with his 2017 wrx premium. But I’m not so sure about that one.
@andreybrovkin1294
@andreybrovkin1294 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how close this race is 0.92 hp/Lb sti vs .79 brz, and it does have a tune also
@BunnyBUNGALO
@BunnyBUNGALO 2 жыл бұрын
Gearing makes a difference
@petethecarfreak3486
@petethecarfreak3486 2 жыл бұрын
Seems from dyno numbers Subaru may have been light on their rated HP numbers for the new BRZ too 👀
@BunnyBUNGALO
@BunnyBUNGALO 2 жыл бұрын
@@petethecarfreak3486 really? That's the first I've heard that
@petethecarfreak3486
@petethecarfreak3486 2 жыл бұрын
@@BunnyBUNGALO yeah the new one makes almost 50 WHP more than the old one
@TheJohnb35711
@TheJohnb35711 2 жыл бұрын
91 ACN tune is so weak, it would probably be faster stock
@CPMUNSEY
@CPMUNSEY 2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting this race to be as close as it was. I figured the STI would just walk away from basically a bone stock BRZ with a cat back on it. That’s impressive. Great races.👌🏽🔥🔥
@Soh90
@Soh90 Жыл бұрын
Yeah friggin crazy. The BRZ does rev higher though and I think having longer legs helped it tremendously.
@Lobo_Argent
@Lobo_Argent 2 жыл бұрын
I love the first Gen exterior design better, but the performance of the second Gen is impossible to ignore. Well done Toyota/Subaru
@skitzoid8202
@skitzoid8202 2 жыл бұрын
The first gen had more character. It feels like the second gen is just trying to blend in with the Subaru lineup
@Lobo_Argent
@Lobo_Argent 2 жыл бұрын
@@skitzoid8202 I haven’t driven the new Gen to make an opinion, but we shall see :)
@skitzoid8202
@skitzoid8202 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lobo_Argent I was talking about styling, not driving dynamics haha
@Lobo_Argent
@Lobo_Argent 2 жыл бұрын
@@skitzoid8202 ooooh I completely agree with you then 😁
@dakotajones8010
@dakotajones8010 2 жыл бұрын
thats actually impressive seeing as the sti is making 305hp stock but hes got a OTS tune intake and muffler delete the BRZ has rlly improved
@Soh90
@Soh90 2 жыл бұрын
Nice race. BRZ/GR86 are putting north of 200whp on dynos so I’m thinking that Toyota slightly underrated the car. The BRZ also has pretty good top end thanks to its much higher revving engine. The BRZ is so far a 11/10. They knocked the redo out of the damn park.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
BR86*
@ObjectiveTruth5168
@ObjectiveTruth5168 2 жыл бұрын
This is more a testament to the limitations of the Cobb OTS tune than anything else. A protune even on a bone stock sti will change the results markedly.
@KrazeeeOne
@KrazeeeOne 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I just spent nearly every spare moment of the past 3 days catching up. June to present. What a wild sequence of events. So glad it's all working out! Even if it is stressful.
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Thats a lot of bullshit between then and now!
@2012JRB
@2012JRB 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's painful but good run for the BRZ. Cobb Tunes are trash though. I went from 388bhp to 450bhp in my RS going from a Cobb Tune to a actual JST Tune.
@Aurablade77
@Aurablade77 2 жыл бұрын
This was the perfect video to bypass a boring match on Royal Rumble :) Great race
@898orion
@898orion 11 ай бұрын
Check oil after about a minute of turning off the engine or while running. Basically your sump needs to be full while the engine is running and fully lubricated. Specially for boxer engines, Proper oil is critical.
@vasyacalifrock8109
@vasyacalifrock8109 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. The results really shocked me. Unexpected.
@Jaime7188
@Jaime7188 2 жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised at how quick the new BRZ/GR86 is. I was actually thinking about getting the GR86, but then decided to go all out and got the GR Supra 3.0 instead
@n-power-automotive
@n-power-automotive 2 жыл бұрын
Great match up! Definitely not the result I was expecting. The STI reminds me so much of my 07 MazdaSpeed6. On paper (and in mags) that car was supposed to be so quick, but unless you’re dumping the clutch at 4k RPM from a dig, it was just marginally quick. Don’t get me wrong, it was a fantastic car; it handled amazing, looked great and was fun to drive, but similar to the STI, it’s just not that fast from a roll. They run out of steam up top.
@Synthwave89
@Synthwave89 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Meanwhile the BRZ LOVES to be up top. Especially the first gen. Second gen is more like a K24, more powerful on the low and especially mid range, torque and grunt for days. Cannot wait to see what the tuners do with the FA24, it's gonna be a legendary engine.
@ER-1.1
@ER-1.1 2 жыл бұрын
Well theres the 500 pound weight difference + passenger and the gearing also plays a part. That's why the wry has very similar 0-60 to the sti.
@Kantoh22
@Kantoh22 2 жыл бұрын
If I were in the market for a new coupe I could mess around with, it would be the GR86 variant of this car. I really like how far they have come. Especially since I drove the FRS when it first came out. Cant wait to see how they do with a tune. Thanks for the content! 😊
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment!
@Kantoh22
@Kantoh22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camhill182 You're very welcome! Keep up the great work!
@inferno8908
@inferno8908 2 жыл бұрын
holy i did not expect the brz to be that close
@Mirai1K
@Mirai1K 2 жыл бұрын
I went from driving a used 2005 neon to a brand new GR86. these cars are super nice especially comparing against the previous gen
@janieyow3320
@janieyow3320 2 жыл бұрын
Got the 2018 WRx Sti and added the Subie Mods Cobb Stage 1 package. Just like this STi's setup. The ECN tune takes my 4 year old ride to a whole new level.
@chadoliver2966
@chadoliver2966 2 жыл бұрын
Cameron my dude I'm soo freaking impressed with your BRZ. Was not expecting those races to be that close. Great job brother.
@boost331
@boost331 2 жыл бұрын
I was torn between the 22 BRZ and 22 WRX. I know the WRX gets a lit of hate for its looks, but with a few mods I already know it can look great. However I am soooo glad I chose the BRZ.
@xtremeballr3488
@xtremeballr3488 2 жыл бұрын
The BRZ’s are quick and so fun to drive. The driver of the sti wasn’t really pushing it though, they were short-shifting it a bit.
@home541_
@home541_ 2 жыл бұрын
He also really wasn’t shifting hard or flat foot shifting
@smokalotapotamas
@smokalotapotamas Жыл бұрын
Granny shifting, not double clutching like he should.
@just_levlup
@just_levlup 2 жыл бұрын
Either way I love having my STI. Love having a fast great handling car out to the snow and basically anywhere
@postalpancho
@postalpancho 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I was expecting bus lengths. That was not bad at all. BONE STOCK! Just wait till you throw on a CAI, catless exhaust and a tune. BRZ 86 will be flying but with far better handling. I’m absolutely shocked.
@JY6forlife
@JY6forlife 2 жыл бұрын
Weight difference plays a huge part in racing 👌
@satchels6451
@satchels6451 2 жыл бұрын
we need to see your brz race your type R somehow. curious how that will go down
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not doing that. It would be a waste of time and resources. theres no competition in straight lines
@satchels6451
@satchels6451 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camhill182 says the guy who only does roll races on the channel
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
@@satchels6451 what
@randomvideos21015
@randomvideos21015 2 жыл бұрын
@@satchels6451 you do realize his type r will walk this sti by bus lengths, so imagine what it would do to a stock brz lol… think before you type
@kjenks7161
@kjenks7161 2 жыл бұрын
@@satchels6451 he’s saying the type r will destroy the brz… lol
@waggaclint
@waggaclint 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been great to see it from a standing start 🤷‍♂️
@jonathannavarro6679
@jonathannavarro6679 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Rolling races just don't do it for me.
@mathewboyd903
@mathewboyd903 2 жыл бұрын
That is so impressive that the stock brz can almost keep up with the 2018 sti one a stage one tune even though they had a passenger. Very good race
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
So surprised by the results of this! Great work!
@domteewhy52
@domteewhy52 2 жыл бұрын
Expected a similar result . Their PtW is near ratio . Both good cars
@shadowrambo117
@shadowrambo117 2 жыл бұрын
What?? Even with an OTS tune?? Crazy
@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 2 жыл бұрын
I know STI's are heavy but man, a tuned STI could barely beat a stock BRZ. Once you start tuning that BRZ, you'll be taking people to Gapplebees.
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
I'm excited
@jakeschafer9333
@jakeschafer9333 2 жыл бұрын
Big facts. Just watched first run & im impressed tbh🥵 good job Subaru. But yeah you hit it right on the nose, Brz way lighter. They also got more power than previous gen🤷‍♂️ plus a tune & some boost(don’t gotta be a whole lot) would take a lot of people to grapple bees 🐝
@jakeschafer9333
@jakeschafer9333 2 жыл бұрын
Gabble*
@bijanek91
@bijanek91 2 жыл бұрын
about a 700lbs difference if you count the passenger and maybe a little more considering aftermarket exhaust tend to be lighter than stock they defiantly fixed one of the major issues with the brz
@williebrunson9490
@williebrunson9490 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a 2019 si.. thanks to you bro.. love your work.. keep up the good work.
@gipsyavenger9829
@gipsyavenger9829 2 жыл бұрын
So jealous of the weather there Cam. Just got done using the snow blower on over 20" up here in New England. Don't you miss it ?? It's cool and all but the STI and that EJ are freaking dinosaurs. Still cool to see the little BRZ keep up and keep the STI honest.
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
I do miss the snow a little bit, just not 5 months of it!
@ChrisLowpes
@ChrisLowpes 2 жыл бұрын
Great run dude, these cars are surprising everyone!
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They sure are
@gengiz
@gengiz Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen these two cars race stock vs stock from the dig sti gaps it by 5 cars over 400mtrs and on the roll the sti slowly pulls my over 3 cars over 400 mtr but the gr86 has better response and torque spread over rpm range and sti must be driven right to get good results especially off the dig must be launched hard. Driver mods makes huge difference which ppl don’t take into account
@alexjaun4093
@alexjaun4093 2 жыл бұрын
I’m blown away by this video. Good job! I need to see it with another set of cars and drivers before I’m totally sold tho!
@Cichlid_Visuals
@Cichlid_Visuals 8 ай бұрын
bro even hit the rolling launch control and still couldnt pull lol
@nudehunter8057
@nudehunter8057 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile my 97 coupe impreza NA can't even keep up with anything really impressive with brz honestly definitely worth it
@6speedArks
@6speedArks Ай бұрын
People yall gotta realize the sti is 1600lbs heavier 😭 , those new brz/gr86 are nice looking cars though no doubt .
@DriverGuy23
@DriverGuy23 2 жыл бұрын
600lb difference between the 2 cars. The STi needs a lot more hp to make up for the weight. With the better off-the-shelf handling, the BRZ will smoke the STi in the canyons. Plus, since the BRZ doesn’t have a turbo, it won’t burn oil like the STi.
@efactor1984
@efactor1984 2 жыл бұрын
A stock tune BRZ keeping up with an tuned STi blows my mind.
@onlyoneromeo
@onlyoneromeo Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a rematch when your car gets an intake and tune.
@Jay-sn7wu
@Jay-sn7wu 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a brz, now an STi. I'm actually happy the brz can hang. Looks like its time to trade up lol. I'm waiting for a midcycle refresh hopefully offering a brembo package.
@extraordinarywolf320
@extraordinarywolf320 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 17 BRZ with the factory Brembo's other than being slow the Brembo's can't be beat , they look awesome. Worth every penny.
@wage6681
@wage6681 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a 2021 STI and I really want to race one of the new brz. It's completely stock and it's just as fast as my buddies stock 2011 Mustang GT and walks a 2014 GT auto, from a roll too 😂. Then I threw on Cobbs stage 1 93 and now it pretty much walks. For a 4 cylinder it's honestly really impressive. I would be really surprised if the new BRZ would keep up. And the new WRX too.
@basslover352
@basslover352 2 жыл бұрын
I need videos for proof. A stock STI isn't touching a 5.0. FBO and tuned sti I can see being a good race vs a stock earlier gen 5.0
@wage6681
@wage6681 2 жыл бұрын
@@basslover352 yeah his 2011 is a stock first gen. It's surprised tf outta me that's for sure. I'll have to get a video for sure.
@kingshivam100
@kingshivam100 2 жыл бұрын
WOW The BRZ is special
@tellyawhatmate
@tellyawhatmate 2 жыл бұрын
2018 Sti, check comp on cylinder #2. My ringlands failed at 20k, started noticed dropping power at 15k. Stock. Excessive blow by. U should have walked that thing.
@nfancioni
@nfancioni 5 ай бұрын
This isn't that surprising. The EJ25 has much higher peak power (305/310 hp) than the FA24 NA (228 HP), but the EJ25 is much more inefficient and has smaller power band due to the old school turbo and unequal length headers setup. The FA24 has a much higher redline (7500) versus (6700) of the STI and has a very flat torque due to it being NA. These factors combined with the 500 pound weight difference make the acceleration pretty even.
@utube358
@utube358 Жыл бұрын
Just raced a new brz last night i have a fbo 300zx na .. i beat him but the brz wasnt far behind very impressed
@thegreendoormx4441
@thegreendoormx4441 2 жыл бұрын
The STI is geared VeRY short, allowing the longer geared & higher revving BRZ to keep the gap close
@js-dz5bs
@js-dz5bs 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun to watch but the thing is neither car is meant to go fast in a straight line. They are both fun curvy mountain road cars. Brz in the Summer and STI in the winter.
@LTLBproductions
@LTLBproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, I was on my way home from work when I guy came up on my from behind in a new brz And at the red we took off, surprised me because I didn’t expect it to be close. We went a good 3 digits and I was like damn ok I needa get one. Edit: there is no Sti coming lol
@Elite2832
@Elite2832 2 жыл бұрын
I really want the new FA24 but I just got my 2017 BRZ 2 years ago and new cars are just so expensive right now with dealers marking them up 10 grand or more. The only other alternative to getting my hands on that powertrain would be to motor swap the FA24 into my first Gen.
@codymills2556
@codymills2556 2 жыл бұрын
there are plenty of no mark up dealers just gotta look for them.
@louie5722
@louie5722 2 жыл бұрын
I’m almost 100% sure those are the buttes in the background @5:14 lmao
@johngallegos9710
@johngallegos9710 2 жыл бұрын
It's called power to weight ration. Nice!
@emissarygw2264
@emissarygw2264 Жыл бұрын
Daaaaamn I was just starting to think "hey the power weight is pretty similar to the wrx now, wonder how it stacks up" and googled to find a comparison... Can't wait to see what a supercharger will do!
@e46m54nissansr20937
@e46m54nissansr20937 2 жыл бұрын
Well would you look at that the BRZ finally has a little mid range top end oomph. It would embarrass the previous model, as it should
@daveg6530
@daveg6530 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this race. I just sold my Stage 2 pro tuned 2012 WRX and have been trying figure out what to replace it with. I think this video sealed the deal for a 2022 BRZ. Really surprised how close that was!
@graymatter242
@graymatter242 2 жыл бұрын
I had a stage 2 2011 WRX with a pro tune that I sold last year. Though the new BRZ really does surprise me, in the almost $40k price range, I'd rather go for something a little more classy and refined with a turbo, or if I'd go NA it would be something with significantly more than a 2.4. Idk, I never really liked the BRZs personally but I understand the appeal, especially now. Not great but surprising.
@daveg6530
@daveg6530 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymatter242 yeah I’m actually torn between the new GR86 or a 2022 Camaro LT1 6 speed manual. I know - kind of a weird combination of cars I’m cross shopping . Main thing is I want a RWD NA car. I’m actually leaning towards the Camaro now. The markups and availability of the GR86 is terrible now. However, most Chevy dealers will special order a Camaro at MSRP or below where I live. So the price difference between a GR86/BRZ and LT1 is negligible. What are you looking at getting to replace your WRX?
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 6 ай бұрын
​@@daveg6530what did you end up getting?
@JVette01
@JVette01 2 жыл бұрын
I was very shocked by this result.. thought the STI would destroy the BRZ. That new BRZ must be pretty quick, wish I could drive one.
@thatpersiandude7386
@thatpersiandude7386 2 жыл бұрын
same, sti would destroy the old brz
@cptkorean
@cptkorean 2 жыл бұрын
The cobb acn91 ots tunes are very conservative. And not really meant for hp increase imo. I think it just improves on mid range smoothness and driveability. I had the acn91 map on my 2013 wrx as well and it didn't really feel fast to me.. mid range response just felt smoother but that's about it. Now after putting the car back to stock, it does feel like the car has a bit more top end power, but the low to midrange is a bit sluggish. Curious if that was the case with this race. Maybe the ots map lowered your top end hp instead? Lol
@Sergeant_GiO
@Sergeant_GiO 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it you live in that area. I was stationed at Beale but now I’m in Guam. Love your videos. I just got a 2022 Civic Si. Waiting for the goodies 👍🏽
@alp2506
@alp2506 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 wrx with a similar engine. I had the Cobb tune and it was ok. Not great for power. Got the torqued performance tune and it really opened it up. Safe and smooth. Highly recommend. Great races
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
yeah WRX's and STI's always been v slow
@Jbk0860
@Jbk0860 2 жыл бұрын
Gasoline in CA is no different than gas sold elsewhere in the country. We all use mostly the same suppliers.
@KyngShadow
@KyngShadow 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely surprised me, and I work for Subaru corporate haha. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 22MY BRZ.
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet! I'd work for Subaru!
@MistaFaro
@MistaFaro 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Race! Ive had my 2022 BRZ limited trim with the auto trans for over a month now and this thing is pretty fast, i went against a current gen V6 camaro from 70-120 and after a 100 i was losing him, this car feels like a video game with how easy it is to throw the back out and correct, incredible balance and the chassis Rigidity is superb!
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm glad to hear you love your BRZ too. I haven't really tried out the handling yet, but will very soon!
@MistaFaro
@MistaFaro 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camhill182 You'll be very impressed once you do, the brz loves the twistys!
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
why no elantra N DCT at that point?
@aragon22155
@aragon22155 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... What did you expect. The sti is a heavy boy. The extra 20-40 hp won't do much. It's the dig that'll make a difference
@Dragunov302
@Dragunov302 Жыл бұрын
I really like both cars but the STI had 2 people here vs 1 which makes a significant difference
@moldyrefrigerator
@moldyrefrigerator 8 ай бұрын
The STI also has a tune that cranks up the boost which makes a significant difference
@trentmclellan1037
@trentmclellan1037 2 жыл бұрын
I have a stock 15 FRS and I’ve beat: S2000, 12’ Charger R/T, srt4 Neon, Focus ST, Focus RS. s2000 video on my channel, so this isn’t surprising! People only look at hp not at weight or aerodynamics as well, the FRS weighs 2758lbs
@adriangale
@adriangale 2 жыл бұрын
In the immortal words of Colin Chapman “added lightness” This is why the price is skyrocketing for older, lighter, sports cars. Weight takes so much away, not just from acceleration, but handling and braking too.
@8145dwerdna
@8145dwerdna 2 жыл бұрын
Heel toe is for hard braking. Not light or medium
@edwardinvegas
@edwardinvegas 2 жыл бұрын
Burns oil? Is this typical of Subaru? My 07' Si does so I need to check about once a week to be safe...Good video Cameron, thanks for the content as always.
@mikeyl114
@mikeyl114 2 жыл бұрын
Giving the people what they want. Great videos
@nicelikerice12311
@nicelikerice12311 2 жыл бұрын
Does Cam have a factory freak? Holy moly that was awesome!!!
@ccj3300
@ccj3300 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cameron, new to your channel. Just picked up a 22 GR86 a couple weeks ago and just want to say I'm loving the car and your BRZ content. Can't wait to see what's next :)
@Tachyon836
@Tachyon836 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, the new STi needs 400hp in stock
@chadjones2308
@chadjones2308 2 жыл бұрын
I find it kind of funny you guys try and blurt your faces. But you don't do the license plates lol
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah STIs from a roll are pretty weak. My buddy has a full bolt on 2011 with Cobb stage 2. Vs my brothers mk7 golf with apr tune. Both neck and neck. The golf was just a golf not a GTI.
@vonstrong92
@vonstrong92 2 жыл бұрын
Sti got no top end type r wud gapped tf outta that brz
@AmirPomen
@AmirPomen 2 жыл бұрын
91 tune is just power robbing tune
@NFSLINKINPARK1
@NFSLINKINPARK1 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy. I had a 2014 and never imagined there would be this much difference. They're 100% lying about the crank hp numbers.
@vincentxtran
@vincentxtran 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising results! That probably means once everyone does the FBO e85 special, the BRZ will probably be pretty quick!
@NeXuS858
@NeXuS858 2 жыл бұрын
E85 doesn't do much for N/A cars.
@qqff3192
@qqff3192 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeXuS858 it does decent for high Compression ratio engine
@NeXuS858
@NeXuS858 2 жыл бұрын
@@qqff3192 it's something, but the bigger jump is on FI cars.
@williamswink6170
@williamswink6170 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeXuS858 on the first gen FRS/BRZ/86 adding just e85 could add over 20hp...which for an NA car is substantial and even more so with only 2700lbs to move.
@vincentxtran
@vincentxtran 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeXuS858 honestly i don't know the technical details, but i did know that people got some pretty decent results (myself included) when going e85 on gen1 with an UEL header and tune so excited to see how the 2.4L reacts
@dylanrichards7509
@dylanrichards7509 2 жыл бұрын
This was fire 🔥
@postalpancho
@postalpancho 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of destroying the engine by adding boost just swap the final drive to a larger gear. Much safer for the car, cheaper, easier, quicker than adding hp.
@basslover352
@basslover352 2 жыл бұрын
those things do like 230-240whp stock not as high as he said. honestly shocked it was that close still.
@flat4wankel
@flat4wankel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes around 225 whp stock.
@RaidsVFX
@RaidsVFX 2 жыл бұрын
@@flat4wankel that’s a wrx an sti is probably 240-250
@flat4wankel
@flat4wankel 2 жыл бұрын
@RaidsVFX i can assure you it puts down that. I have an 05. Not stock but when it was stock its slow. Mine its stage 2 but im going with 20g turbo upgrade. If anyone is reading this and has an sti. Do not go e85 lol
@RaidsVFX
@RaidsVFX 2 жыл бұрын
@@flat4wankel 305 hp to the crank on the new sti’s with the drivetrain loss it’s 250 to the wheels
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