2022 Toyota GR86: Regular Car Reviews

[@cartmemes5034]

“Designed for a generation who can’t afford a new car anyway” damn that couldn’t have been said better

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

Yeah... but it's gonna be the car that the last generation will be able to afford, so they can have fun slow car at an age later than most would consider appropriate. In some ways, it's the quarter life crisis car. Act like a teen while making your very first salary, because you were a practical kid and got a useful degree, eschewing fun for your future. And now you can finally afford to have the fun you put off.

[@Under_the_Iceberg]

@@Lieutenant_Dude It's kind of in the spot the Corvette used to occupy; the car you got when you finally paid down your debts and could afford something nice. Funny story is that although the Corvette hasn't increased meaningfully in price since the 00s, the everymans ability to afford one has declined, so your option is something like the 86 which is a fine car but you feel cheated because you know it's really for 20-somethings but you can barely justify the money it costs when you're 40.

[@Jez4prez1]

@@Under_the_Iceberg just buy one bro, they're one of the cheapest options out there, and you only live once. I see more youngish people in Porsche SUV's, Tesla's, BMW's etc that cost much more, than I do in BRZ's/86's. The BRZ/86 is the car for the every-man car enthusiast. That alone makes it something special. It's a car priced for the masses, yet only appeals to the niche enthusiasts. Kind of funny when you think about it actually. But of all the fun / 'sport' / enthusiast cars out there, this is one of the ones you should feel the least guilty about buying.

[@Under_the_Iceberg]

@@Jez4prez1 They look nice but they're slow for how expensive they are. a v6 camry is faster and costs about the same in addition to being way more practical.

[@Jez4prez1]

@@Under_the_Iceberg I own a V6 camry, although it's an older model, and it's probably the slowest car I've ever driven. A BRZ/GR86 is faster on basically any road with turns. They're actually insanely fast on tight roads and tight circuits, competing way above their price bracket. That is what they're made for, not for driving in a straight line. No harm in having two cars (or more) anyway hehe. They're not expensive either, the price of the 'average new car' is tens of thousands higher. They're on the cheap end of the car market. If you don't want to spend that then almost all cars would be out of the ballpark. Anyhow, they're genuinely excellent cars for their price point. Camry's are great also but completely different. That's why I own both lol. The Camry is my boring practical car for daily driving where I don't care what happens to it. My BRZ is for back-road driving and special weekend trips, and is more like a hobby car. If you want a Camry, look into importing a Toyota Crown instead. It's basically an upgraded luxury version Camry. I'll probably replace / upgrade my Camry with a Crown sooner or later.

[@LordOfSilense]

Toyota tech here: You can turn off the ASC by going into the head unit menu. Home > Settings/ Gear > General/ Car > ASC (Active Sound Control) > Off Unplugging the speaker is kind of a silly way to do it. But hey, nobody reads the manual.

[@jasonmoyer]

That's interesting. According to the manual, that setting can only be changed by the dealer for some reason.

[@oldfrend]

@@jasonmoyer does it actually not let you change the setting in the menu?

[@jasonmoyer]

@@oldfrend No idea, I don't have one yet. The manual says only the dealer can do it. It's on page 403.

[@cristophcarsu8185]

Ha, wrong smile anus

[@edd2184]

I'm sure that if you disconnect the battery, it probably goes right back to the factory settings. There is nothing like unplugging a physical connection. That way you have no worries of it ever coming back on.

[@YouHaveReachedBob]

Brian's been hitting that F-list hard lately.

[@Sephiroth391]

duude...

[@RegularCars]

uwu

[@nomoreheretics]

@@RegularCars uwu nya~

[@showoe3126]

@@RegularCars UwU

[@SomethingFunny454]

poor guy struggling with his sexuality

[@DB-sd3cw]

Can't believe I've been watching your content for almost 10 years now. Love you RCR!

[@RegularCars]

Thanks for helping me have a job!

[@supercattelephone]

@@RegularCars starting watching RCR when I wasn't even old enough to drive and now I'm on my 3rd Subaru.

[@danield8528]

@@supercattelephone Idk If I should congratulate you or scold you because you’re on your third Subaru

[@oldfrend]

man, call me a nostalgia hog, but looking at this feels like when i first saw mark IV supras in college. ambrosia for the tuner crowd which i was never into, but their rarity will earn them a whispered rep that will pass into legend as they and their audience age out. i would love a car like this (with jay's mods) if i was still in my 20s.

[@low_re8094]

Should get an 86. Cars like these are for anyone who appreciates them. Keiichi Tsuchiya is in his mid 60s and drives a modern 86 on the street. The GR86 looks great, but I want to pick up an older used model, since they're all very similar. 200HP on one of these is still enough to kick the back out if you know how to drive the car.

[@oldfrend]

@@low_re8094 not practical. i had a hyundai genesis coupe for a while. 274hp turbo, fun as hell, but you couldn't even fit a cooler in the trunk. also you're not getting a gr86 for less than $40k, even used unless it's beat to hell.

[@alomas93]

@@oldfrend are those American prices?? Absolutely not, Americans need to relax a bit on the “JDM” cars.

[@FlyingDropBearAU]

I'm 35 and I want one. I want to 90's/00's tuner bling bling one.

[@Dragon228833]

I’m in my 20’s and mine is coming in 2 weeks and im definitely gonna love this car

[@stoneylonesome4062]

“Carolina Squat” sounds like some profane act that happens to senatorial page boys in Lindsey Graham’s hotel room.

[@benvaun1330]

Or his sister.

[@abes3925]

Or a really hot pepper

[@thetechlibrarian]

Lol I’m In Hilton head now and that’s all I seen on the way here.

[@Nikowalker007]

Lmfao 🤣

[@kellytolliver2390]

With his priest lmao

[@nagylevi3827]

This is not a car to compare with the AE86. This is a car to compare with its contemporary rivals. It is the AE86 of its time, I believe. Great rant, as always. Cheers.

[@Dkmo94]

Wonderfully said.

[@natem2396]

Exactly.

[@MaddNomad1015]

Eh it would have to be a Corolla. More like a Silvia of our time.

[@markmiller3279]

That's a good take on it. I disliked the first generation of this car (under whatever name), but they got this generation pretty close to right. The styling works, the power is about right, and the interior is improved. I wouldn't buy one because we can only have one car, but I respect it.

[@soilent9618]

Exactly. One of the things that annoys me about Mr. R is the fact that he can't seem to let go of how cars were in the 80s and 90s. CARS WILL NEVER BE LIKE THAT AGAIN and it's time to move on. This is the 86 of TODAY and we're never, ever going back. However, that doesn't make it a bad car. I actually think it's a much improved upon version of a 90s sports car. It does all the same things, but in a more precise and technical fashion, and doesn't feel like a complete death trap at anything over 55mph. As much as Mr. R rags on boomers, he should take a look in the mirror, because he's just as "set in his ways" as they are.

[@RDEnduro]

Thank you for bringing up digital throttle bodies, I've hated every one. New cars have so much delay and if you press the brake pedal at same time as throttle they always turn throttle off.. dangerous. Just because my Aunt drove her car through the garage wall while mistakingly pressing both pedals they remove all connection from our feet

[@brynclarke1746]

and rev hang my god driving my underpowered shitbox you have to hold gears to get anywhere, then when you do upshift those 3 cylinders just punch you in the clutch unless you wait literal seconds for the revs to drop

[@kajithatotherguy4408]

These don't kill the throttle when you press the brake, which is nice.

[@fonz-ys6xu]

1st thing I changed about my Fiesta ST, power max throttle controller. Made the car so much more responsive and fun to drive. I drive fleet vehicles as my company car. Usually a small sedan in past years. Those cars with sloppy throttle by wire systems do feel dangerous when pulling out into busy intersections making a right turn into traffic.

[@skateboard987654321]

Funny how Subaru did the opposite of this to try and make the 2015+ WRX “feel” faster. 20% throttle is actually like 80% throttle. Makes it an extremely hard car to teach someone to drive manual with.

[@DrewLSsix]

That.... makes no sense, the brake pedal is still physically, if it disconnected the throttle she wouldn't have gone anywhere.....

[@Rollermanfromspace]

7:38 It makes 228HP not 277. Maybe the turbo version in other Subaru cars but the NA version is 228HP with still under 200 ft/lbs of torque at 186

[@thisnameistotallybad]

Yes, this has the FA24D whereas the turbo engine is the FA24F.

[@anthonykiedis1765]

184 ft/lbs*

[@supaflywhiteguy7635]

Yeah if it was 277 HP I doubt many people would complain about performance

[@djsonicc]

I gotta say they really nailed the styling of this car

[@luizarthurbrito]

Wow, this guy's subtle mods were great! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@klasseact6663]

Except the empty mouse hole on the drivers side! My OCD would be flaring up uncontrollably 😳

[@christophers.4007]

@@klasseact6663 agreed, i would not be able to live with that if it were my car

[@KerrijaGryphon]

@@klasseact6663 The previous gen had an aftermarket cover you could get for that. I'm sure the aftermarket is working on doing the same for this gen as well.

[@klasseact6663]

@@KerrijaGryphon I didn't know this, very cool because this new 86 is truely outstanding looking👍👍

[@luizarthurbrito]

@@klasseact6663 yeah, but surely it's fixable. Other than that, pure class!

[@gwpeoples]

Toyota: "It's an analogue car for a digital age" *builds it with wonky digital throttle control*

[@maprow]

and fake engine noise

[@ixcutamp8059]

I'm just happy we are still able to modify these things out and make it better! Tesla and other manufacturers are really trying hard to prevent this...

[@OrlandoMGarcia]

honky wonky trottle pedal

[@johnalogue9832]

@@ixcutamp8059 Ironically, software control without all the trickiness of negotiating with the engine's mechanical properties could be making mods like that *easier...*

[@ixcutamp8059]

@@johnalogue9832 yes, it's easy now, until they start introducing ways to make it harder to tamper with software, like Tesla.

[@letegritime]

4 years ago; watching RCR after a long day of school whilst playin spelunky. Today; watching RCR 6:20am Tuesday before work. Y’all are like a regular friend who’s stuck around ❤️

[@Fooacta]

"Your lap hog still stands at attention with a single thought-" BABE, HE'S ABOUT TO DO THE THING!

[@robertshelton3796]

RCR is one of the few channels I'm still watching after many years and looking forward to on Monday mornings. The writing is good, the pacing of the episode is good it never feels drawn out the commentary and observations are insightful. Happy independence day RCR!

[@NGiggles]

I cum for the regular, but I stay for the intelligence!

[@MoonBro96]

277 horsepower and people still don’t think that’s enough? That’s more than a GTI, almost as much as a MK7 Golf R, but you don’t see people complaining about power in those cars…

[@rubberwoody]

It has 228hp

[@RikersStupidBeard]

Almost everyone in a GTI has a tune well over 300 though.

[@cherrypepsi2815]

​​@@RikersStupidBeardsource: me You can easily tune a GR86 to make more than 300 anyways, so that point is gone

[@vtr0104]

The start of this with the smooth transition tricked me into thinking it was going to be one of the more serious reviews, but then I got RCRd real quick. Well played, good Sirs, well played.... EDIT: You're right about that naming convention thing, banking on something from the past to try and sell something now is much more likely to get you despised by two separate generations of people than it is to getting people into a dealership. Very few cars in recent history managed to pull that off while staying true to their origins. The RX series Mazdas, the MX-5, the S2000 being a successor to the old S600/S800s, the GT-R, FCAs Challengers and Chargers and, by the look of things, Nissan's new Z or the new Suzuki Jimny (I know it's out of left field, but we're talking about being a genuine descendant of something here). Otherwise, it generally ends up failing. Nissan's previous Z, the Mustang Mach name being used on an electric SUV, Honda's attempt at reviving the NSX, VWs attempt at using the Beetle's name and shape, Ford trying out that Thunderbird design in the 2000s or, since I praised them earlier, FCA using the Direct Connection moniker to promote their future EV lineup, after generations of gear-heads grew up with as being their cool speed parts catalogue.

[@shawnmungur4875]

I think the legend of the AE86 has surpassed the actual character of the car. I daily drove mine during college and after driving the gen 1 86 it felt similar. They're good, but both leave you wanting; and that's what made them great! Aspirations.

[@kurtg5405]

I would have called the Modern Iterations of the 86 'Celica'. It looks, and has a lot in common with the original RWD Toyota Celica that had that 'Mini Muscle Car' look.

[@markmiller3279]

In looks, yes, but the performance of the Celica was always modest. I would have liked to see the Celica name revived, but I think their sporting ambitions were a little too serious for that name.

[@MaddNomad1015]

Agree

[@original__gmebvy]

The Scion tC was more of a “Celica” than anything else. It’s pretty much a successor to that car and it feels like the last gen Celica in that regard as to how it runs and drives. The 86 is more of the AE86 Corolla just done for a new generation of car people.

[@stufoo]

Scotty?

[@deejayimm]

The gr86 has 228 horsepower from the factory. There's no way that guy's making 277.

[@kaboom1252]

I believe to the crank it might be

[@android175]

@@kaboom1252 No way drivetrain loss is that much. RCR made a mistake

[@deejayimm]

@@kaboom1252 When has an auto manufacturer quoted wheel horse power? They always publish crank hp.

[@deejayimm]

@@android175 He might not have made a mistake, it's possible that that guy told him it has 277 horsepower which is probably bullshit without FI.. But then again he made it sound like a mistake.

[@moistbrain9297]

Almost certainly a mistake

[@justinkey4895]

Cool that you reviewed one. I just ordered my 2023 BRZ last week. You have to see this thing really more like a blank canvas than a finished product. It's a great car to drive as is, but the potential for more is massive. For about $30k, it's an amazing starting point and you can build something truly incredible for a few dollars more. I went with the BRZ instead of the GR86 because all the Toyota places were marking up $5k over MSRP and the Subaru dealership was just doing straight up MSRP. That markup kind of defeats the purpose of the car IMHO.

[@DB-sd3cw]

How's the subie dealership experience vs Toyota?

[@justinkey4895]

@@DB-sd3cw The Subaru dealership was much nicer. But I don't know that it's a fair comparison. My sales rep at the Subaru shop was in his late 50s and had been working there for about 25 years. He knew the answer to every question I had without looking anything up and was overall pretty chill. My rep at Toyota was a very young lady in her mid 20s. She was obviously new at the job and wasn't comfortable in it yet. She didn't know anything about cars really. I'm sure she'll get there, but she was super green. But she did tell me that they were marking everything up at least 5k over MSRP and there would be no negotiating that. So I'm getting a BRZ now instead.

[@ObeseChess]

Yeah, there’s a CPO one (it has like 400 miles on it) at a dealership near me for, uhhhhhh $46k. Pass!

[@ihaveunevennostrils9455]

@@DB-sd3cw i was one of the first owners in december to pick up a 2022 brz, and i can second the dealership experience. i'd only gotten lucky with my local subaru dealer but i've heard oodles of people on the forums complain about how gr86s are being distributed- it's either marked up, sold, or just auto.

[@TheOneWayDown]

This. These cars and the FR-S and BRZ before them feel like the modern equivalent of a Silvia. Sporty and revvy from the factory, but a great canvas for upgrades

[@trueno86power]

Thanks to you, each time I'll take my Eight-Six for a ride I'll have "EIGHT-DI**S" into my head. Lol, great review. People tend to forget that we are lucky to still have "cheap" sports car in this world of small SUV's and HEV/EV's. Some brand don't even sells cars anymore. For sure it won't feel like an old 80's RWD Corolla's. As much as I like AE86, they are currently outdated and overpriced IMO. The FR-S/BRZ/86 is still alive after 10 years, this is something to celebrate. Plus, lot of the parts are mostly unchanged. Each year they make it will be an other year of parts for 2013 FR-S/BRZ !

[@DevoT]

Ordered a GR86 in January, it arrived on May 1st. Some thoughts after 2 months - I've never been more excited to take a trip to the grocery store, or really any excuse to drive. Coming from a Mk7 GTI, I was worried about it's smaller trunk, the back seats, lack of turbo and the harsher ride for long trips. After 2 months I have come to accept that it cannot be what the GTI was - because it is better in almost every way. Sure, there are some quirks, like the fake engine noise, the weird turn signal design and the most annoying seat belt warning noise I've ever experienced. Luckily, the fake sound is easy to unplug, the turn signal thing becomes second nature after 3 weeks and I am now in the habit of ALWAYS putting my seat belt on right away. There is one other thing I will mention that is something I never experienced with the VW GTI - I get people gawking, talking and taking pictures of this car on an almost daily basis. Some people say, "Is that the new Supra?" and others just say, "What is that thing?" So far I've only had one, "What kind of Porsche it that?"

[@ashiqromeo3455]

ayy i ordered mine last month, can't wait till its here 🏁🏁

[@ahahuehafook4207]

Its an unreliable subaru engine not a chad bulletproof toyota engine

[@osifielDoperAtive]

Color, manual transmission, all perfect. I’ll take one! 👍🤗

[@griffins5655]

This might be one of my favorite reviews of yours… So well done, touches on all the points of concern and draws good points about the heritage of the GR86. Well done! Thank you so much for this amazing content!

[@fuze3522]

The FA24 in the GR86 is the non turbo variant, it actually makes 228 horsepower, not 271. The only real reason they added the FA24 over the old 2.0L was to give it a substantial increase in torque while still keeping it naturally aspirated. So instead of 150 ft-lbs at the top of the rev range you get 180 ft-lbs in the middle of it. Subsequently flattening out its torque dip. So maybe only 20 extra horsepower over the previous model, but 30 extra lb-ft of torque.

[@prod.kenshi]

Also the car comes with around 220, not 270, not sure where that number came from

[@roxyroller25]

typo on the script should say 227 hp (crank)

[@prod.kenshi]

@@roxyroller25 yes

[@moldyrefrigerator]

To be fair, the 228 hp is underrated. These cars are putting down 215-225 whp stock on a dyno, so the actual hp is around 250hp.

[@DrRyan82994]

“the s15 made more power 20 years ago!1!1!111!1 cars need to make more than 400 or i can’t get HARD”

[@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062]

Did a stock S15 really make that much more power though?

[@IslayAnderson]

@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 the spec r output 250hp

[@stephenmoutafis5587]

Moooorrrreee

[@tyhyhh]

it was also boosted NA s15 wasnt even close to this power

[@SlowLude]

I love how the first mods for many sports cars now days is removing rev hang and fake engine sounds

[@AcuraLvR82]

I had the exact same throttle experience on a third gen Acura TL I drove to the Kansas City Auto Auction a few years back. A sharp contrast to my 92 Integra which instantly gets up and goes and never hesitates to go all the way to redline. Its like the Nanny State has finally found a way to invade the automotive driving experience of the youth.

[@skynet1.044]

The GT86/FRS/BRZ will be the next 240sx in 10-15 years, and I’m ok with that 👌

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

Precisely that’s what it is now. It’s a modern 240 with just enough safety systems.

[@SpiritedDriven86]

FINALLY A GR86!!! THANK YOU RCR!!!! i just woke up and to see this just made my morning a whole lot better!

[@TDUShelby]

I've never owned a brand new car, nor have I ever owned a manual, but I've got a 6MT on reserve, and now I'm just waiting. Something about these made me LUST for it, and I'm not going to pass it up.

[@Kottery]

Yup, I ordered a BRZ last month as my first new new car so hopefully I'll be driving it home before the end of the year.

[@johnpearson492]

Enjoy it! This new variant appears to be spot on.

[@ahahuehafook4207]

Fuck a subaru engine shouldve been a bulletproof toyota

[@Owen-zm6sq]

I just about entered an order quote on the Toyota website after watching this knowing full well a gr corolla would be a smarter buy for the winter...other than the throttle body and fake sounds it seems so pure and fun. I need to test one at least.

[@ShoumikKundu]

I mean a GR Corolla will be much more expensive with markup and much harder to find anyway

[@5.0cs_Brandon]

I want a GR Corolla too brotha but we wont be able to test one truely. at least anytime soon. theyre limited to about 3 per dealer and will be sold at heavy markup, presold to people on a waiting list. Makes it hard to really want one because of that... Dealers ruining it for me

[@LordOfSilense]

You can turn off the fake sounds in a setting on the head unit's customization options. :)

[@dil6969]

If you want a sports car and can only have one car, the GR86 is probably the best new car pick right now. It's definitely more usable day-to-day than any generation Miata. The Corolla may be faster, but trust me when I say that RWD is worth the penalty in absolute power. These cars are genuinely great to drive and easy to live with.

[@aluisious]

@@5.0cs_Brandon Toyota doesn't want people to actually buy the GR Corolla. If they did, they'd make enough so that everything you mentioned wasn't a problem.

[@docternoblex]

I never felt like the the 86/BRZ felt underpowered, it was fun for what it was and it performs really well

[@jpriedy]

I just picked mine up about two weeks ago. The best way I can describe it is by saying this: I go over bumps on purpose in this car because the suspension has such a satisfying feel to it.

[@rafaellastracom6411]

A real homerun and a breath of fresh air.

[@joemama38]

I am 21 and have wanted a BRZ/FRS since they came out. These are great cars. However being in college I would rather not go into crippling debt. I’ll buy a rusted, beat to shit one in 15 years.

[@darksu6947]

That's a good plan dude. Glad to see not all of the kids are retarded these days.

[@SAHOYT71013]

Great idea but it's worth noting the NA MX-5 has a 33 year head start with plenty of beat to shit models you could pick up in the meantime.

[@22madmax13]

You're already in crippling debt, YOLO it.

[@stephendumore4363]

Once the economy settles back down you may be able to get a lightly dammaged salvage title one for cheap I bought and rebuilt my FR-S for around 9-10k covid dollars including all the fees and all new fluids, tires and pads.

[@emiliorescigno]

Once you graduate and get your first full adult job, get one. I wish I had done that when I was that age (instead of chasing around various shitboxes)

[@iInked_Barbarossa]

Roughly 2 minutes in, and there was already some " What the f**k did I just watch?" moment. Granted, it's been a while since I've watched one of your videos ( The 1994 Dodge Caravan video being a favorite when it comes to weirdness ) , but it seems like some of the 'old stuff' is creeping in again. Then again, every channel evolves, and I'm glad you're still enjoying yourself after all these years. Keep up the good work, and keep having fun, don't let it become a chore.

[@plopsplipspladoodle]

Watching your videos is the only time I get to feel like a car enthusiast. That's because this chanel isn't about cars, it's about living life and sometimes you're alive in a car.

[@jackmurphy2096]

Well said

[@hollybirge4087]

I really see this more as a Celica successor. I heard from my mechanic that Toyota had originally intended to call it a Celica.

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Thats gonna be a different car

[@chiefkeef74]

I could see this as a Celica

[@busterscrugs]

Looks so handsome compared to the last gen car!

[@akinadownhillace]

I did all the Toyota technician modules on this car. They basically improved nearly everything.

[@TheJahbrother]

I don't understand what you did?

[@akinadownhillace]

@@TheJahbrother it's a online presentation for service technicians.

[@mrmalware6472]

This car has the brand sharing of an early 90s Mitsubishi-Chrysler car, like a dodge stealth or something.

[@remingtonspeed7481]

Mitsu Starion and Chrysler / Doge / Plymouth Conquest

[@ben501st]

Major Mitsu Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser vibes. Even has a brand that disappeared, a brand that quit making it, and a brand that took away the original spirit.

[@OllamhDrab]

Though I don't really mind it that there's a slightly-different Subaru version, not sure which I'd like better, but apparently in Japanese versions the throttle tune's different, (They werent' complaining about lag in the GR86 there so that may be different over there) and it had me wonder if they made the GR more track-flavored and the Subie more rally-flavored in those subtle ways, ....they described the Subie as a bit more comfy by setup, but the comparison was... track day. The badge engineering once upon a time had a lot to do with both the import rules and all the different-brand dealerships out there, but we always did think 'Stealth' in big letters was kind of a silly trying-too-hard name. :)

[@rhodycars6058]

It does remind me of a DSM in some ways.

[@KROMO50]

That car is far beyond driven

[@MapleMilk]

Now I don't know every car part or model on earth, but if this thing was in a 90s racing game, it would be a legendary design

[@8kdrei]

Fun fact: the guy who made initial D made another manga that’s becoming an anime released next year and the hero car is the gt86

[@Aglai76]

Damn, wish it was the GR86 because it's such a drastically better car, but I'm still excited

[@xFactoryUSA]

The look on the owners face as you shifted 👀😂😂

[@charlesputt8588]

Here I thought this was the next giveaway car. I'd have bought a $50 mug for this.

[@sage11x]

Still have my 2013 FRS I bought in 2012. No desire to replace it yet but will probably end up with one of these or the BRZ at some point. Waiting for a couple years for them to tweak/work out the kinks as I was victim of the valve spring issue on the original. Engine has been out twice for that and a third time for a seal leak. I still think this is the best driving car for the money. I would absolutely buy one of these over an S2000 or any gen MX5. It just is.

[@omerahmed310]

classic RC review, the wait has been worth it

[@rdsyafriyar]

Gotta love how he's talking about the GR86 as if it's an actual person at the beginning. The humor doesn't stop there in this whole video though...

[@FurryWrecker911]

The HPV for the Focus ST was the Octane Academy. Similar situation: buy the car, get a free track day. Problem was it was waaaaaay out in Utah. I could barely afford the ST, let alone take a week off to go to Utah and back.

[@ziginox]

They did it for the Fiesta as well. A coworker at an old job got to do it twice, first with his Focus and later with a Fiesta. Thankfully it's not much of a drive from here.

[@Galian6686]

I've got a couple friends that did it with their Fiestas. One guy more than once but I never got to go. A shame really.

[@joshuaalan7580]

Can't get over how much this looks like my 2016 Accord coupe

[@bwofficial1776]

It's the taillights. Look at the new WRX, Subaru just took the taillights off a Civic.

[@blackice996]

The car is perfect. The review is perfect. Even the owners shirt is perfect. Certainly made my monday 👍

[@drian91800]

I just got my GR86 last week… an RCR video feels like a great way to celebrate

[@banpeinet]

Spoiler alert: I was expecting a pun on the GR86 name at the end. If could have been "If a car is good, it's good. And this car is great. But it's not a great-six" Missed opportunity Mr. Regular! (and yes, I'm an AE86 owner)

[@br2324]

It’s interesting to hear your commentary on the heritage of the name because as someone who came of age in the 90s I can understand your comparison. To me, someone who came of age in the 2010s this car is one of the greatest sequels on the market for my 86, the FRS. when i think of an 86 i think of an FRS, not an AE86, so it was very interesting to hear your different point of view.

[@DrBunhead95]

Yeah, power figure is pulled out of ass i guess, missed some info there with FA24F maybe? albeit it doesn't have 277 ponies Otherwise engine specs as compression ratio of 12,5:1 are correct

[@tailsneon556]

228hp

[@shawn7889]

For anyone interested, I tried to buy one for a couple weeks. Tldr: I settled for a BRZ. Toyota dealerships only work with allocated cars, so they aren't really incentivized to sell you one for a good deal. A new one won't stay on the lot over a day, someone will pay the markup. I couldn't get any Toyota dealership within 200 miles to accept MSRP so I ended up checking out the BRZ. Subaru allows you to have cars built. You can get exactly what you want and negotiations started at MSRP. Estimated arrival is October.

[@bwofficial1776]

Did you know about the Subaru VIP program? You can donate $500 to the ASPCA and get a coupon to get any Subaru except the WRX and Solterra at 2% below invoice and any accessories at invoice. No negotiations and no markups but invoice and fees vary per dealership so you can still shop around. I got the VIP coupon though my job and saved $4000 on my ordered Outback. It took 10 weeks from the order to arrive at the dealership.

[@OllamhDrab]

It's one of the very few new cars I'd actually want, certainly. And I'd always expected to want to do *something* about the e-throttle, and most e-throttles, probably. Handy little box would certainly be OK. As name and heritage go, these Scubayotion models in general always kinda reminded me of those forgotten plainer looking Celica GTs of like 1980, little coupes that didn't stand out much, but they were fun basics, a little nicer than Corollas, hardly barn-burners performancewise but fun to get the most out of, actually had a little charm to them despite really not looking very different from much of the rest on the road, faster than most Corollas out there by a bit, unless someone got the newer GTS that actually was more a proper hachi-roku, ... Generally a creature of an age where a commuter/daily coupe or hatch you could have fun with was pretty mass-market, real non-drivers might just go for the slushbox or learn to drive stick for the better gas mileage and stuff, but that rear drive, often manual platform was all over the place. The Corollas and Celicas were out there, as were the upgrades for if someone found themselves wanting a bit more or better or posher or whatever direction they wanted to go. And there was of course ways to mod everything. Kind of sad that became so niche.

[@bikebudha01]

I've watched over 50 videos on this car. Including a couple where the reviewer's actually bought the car. This is the first, and only, to actual figure out how to kill the fake engine noise - and show how to do it. Bravo my good sir, bravo....

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

Call me a grinch, but I would love to drive a manual car with some power on an empty road. I drive a manual 85hp diesel Renault Kangoo with a loaded trunk in Paris traffic all day. It feels like a purgatory.

[@CasuaICole]

8:43 That "Okay, where is it?" Was filled with all the clinical rage of a locked up titan, and all the blissfully webbed feelings of vibrant joy of a child going to Disk-Replay, and with all the freedom 20 dollars gets you in that store. No one likes audio controllers.

[@Slowwagonftl]

I’ve got a friend with a new 86… and a friend with an prior gen 86… and good lord they improved this car on every single aspect. If I had room for 2 cars, I’d have my tuned Alltrack (6MT) and an 86 (also manual). Since the Alltrack drives like a very small crossover, the 86 will such a breath of fresh air 🥰 Also stock throttle tuning on modern cars is HORRIBLE and a tune is necessary for basically every single car made today… I get it, gas mileage but damn LET ME LIVE 🗣

[@MechaTheSpider]

Somehow I knew one day Mr Regular would read off his custom F-List kinks, but I'd never have guessed it'd be at the beginning of a review.

[@linuxknight]

I like the subtle mods on this one, seems like it makes it perform just that much better. "BuT It NeEdS a TuRbO" - Sure adding a snail will give it more oomph. Does it need it for a car this size, and the purposes it was intended? I think on the BRZ at least, other videos I have seen, they added a turbo, and it seems to have just the right amount of space in there to add one and the required tubing. So if you need it, go for it. It will fit, it will work, and it will zing. But the majority of people maybe don't need it. Also regarding the naming and legacy, I see it as similar to the Mustang Mach E. That car is, arguably, NOT a Mustang. It is a great EV. Ford just wanted the halo effect on it. They could have called it the Ford MACH EV or whatever, it would have done just as well, maybe even better for not annoying a subset of Mustang enthusiasts. But at the end of the day, is it a good car? Does it do what it needs to do? Maybe that is all that really matters. Like the GR86.

[@kevinwiltshire2217]

This car is going to age a lot better than the last generation

[@adamesp11]

The active noise would be fine … IF you could turn it off in the settings

[@bfife22]

It's extremely easy to disconnect the box that controls it. Pop off one small interior panel and the connector is right there

[@tobyvision]

You can. It's buried in some settings, but it is there. Probably it turns back on every time you unplug the battery.

[@soilent9618]

Just two corrections here for anyone watching. The new car does not make 277hp. It's advertised at 228, but in reality makes closer to 245-250. It also does not have a multi link rear suspension. It's a double wishbone. I'm glad Mr. R liked the car though. Usually he likes to be the contrarian with cars that are universally praised, but he's right. It's not really an 86, but it IS a great car.

[@cesariojpn]

HKS is making mods that can make the car go fast with minimal effort. They have a video doing a timed lap.

[@maldenfoster]

These cars can push 400+ whp with stock internals

[@fry.master]

@@maldenfoster lol 400whp like its a lot...

[@FunkatronicDingus]

@@fry.master 400 is kind of a lot for a stock 4 cylinder engine. Stop trying to be edgy.

[@fry.master]

@@FunkatronicDingus not being edgy, it’s just slow. That’s the end of the measurement. The chassis is ok, about like what bmw has been doing for 20 years. The engine is what it should have been in the first place, but still barely a tick better than the miata. A car we all know is SLOW. Hell I bet a stock nc/nd miata bottom end can make 400whp, maybe even na/nb

[@FunkatronicDingus]

@@fry.master That's cool but this isn't meant to be a Mustang competitor so of course it won't have 400 from the factory. Have fun trying to brake at a hard corner after speeding to 120 with your 400hp light car.

[@2011dgk]

That list spit off around 9:40 had me cracking up. Great video btw keep it up.

[@TGCPhilip]

*_Can't wait for you to review the GR Yaris 💀_*

[@JK061996]

Maybe when he'll go to Australia

[@flyfishingbum165]

As a person who owns a 13frs i feel like this just hits the nail on the head. Its a hot take but so much truth about how these particular cars feel. More than anything toyota should be commended for continuing to make cars like this they are an enigma in the car industry. But even when the first brz/frs launched in 2012 they were cars that were neutered because of the regulations and were made great by manufactures who saw the holes that toyota INTENTIONALLY left open for aftermarket products to fill to make the car truly amazing. The gr86 is no different and im glad that RCR pointed out blatantly the differences from an "out the box" experience to a "tasteful/needed" experience made better with mods. To me ive never cared personally about the hallmark reference to channel the ae86 spirt to drive sales for me it was like he said devils advocate and it just fits the formula of what a great sports car is. People who want some of that should get one and they will love it and if your like one of the people he mentioned in the beginning that wants "at least 300" go get a different car because your never going to be satisfied with trying to make this one something its not.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Hit the nail on the head of the gr86 having all the right numbers and characteristics, yet being hard to *want* want. I guess in every way it still is an *entry* level sports car

[@E38vip]

So was the ae86. I guess with time this will either prove or fail itself in it's mission. Everything we're saying now is what people used to say about the 86, and Toyota isn't a disposable product and I think we're gonna see great things from this car.

[@ethanbeleut]

You really hit that with the “ never had the money for a new car anyway “ 😂😂😂

[@fb4509]

sick pantera shirt my dude

[@skaltura]

GT86 absolutely captures the AE86 spirit.

[@eurosonly]

Acura tail lights and the shape of that fuel cap lmao

[@Canyondriver]

It's everything I've ever wanted in a car, dating back to when I was working for the Heya Project with Toyota, trying to gather ideas from enthusiasts from 2008 for the first gen FR-S. And yet, nothing has pulled me like my old Mr2 Spyder. Not my 2nd gen MR2s, not my E90 BMW, not my Subaru Legacy GT wagon. Just the Mr2 Spyder. Unfiltered, responsive, with the least barrier to "extension of self" on the road that I could personally afford. The GR86 is a practical version of that car, and unfortunately, it added barriers to make it all work; compromised.

[@evelynkinson5524]

Alright, who stole some designers from porsche, nissan and jaguar? It's like a clusterfuck of f type, boxter and that 300zx greenhouse shape

[@oldfrend]

and i kinda dig it =P

[@evelynkinson5524]

@@oldfrend it's a good mashup but let's be honest, it's a far cry from the original recipe. This isn't an economy car gone sporty.

[@oldfrend]

@@evelynkinson5524 there are very few original recipes anymore. just coming up with something worthwhile is good enough. this is certainly that.

[@charlesputt8588]

U mad tho?

[@evelynkinson5524]

@@charlesputt8588 not really but it's just disappointing that people can't like a car for what it has rather than wanting more power. We're spoilt with 3 figure power numbers to compensate for weight and emissions gear. What happened to the days of 90hp in an 800kg rollerskate? No assists, just a tin box with an engine and some pedals. 3 to be specific. It's a good car don't get me wrong but it's no mx5 and it's definitely not a "pure drivers car"

[@chrisdigital]

And this gives me even more reason to keep my 20-year-old 7th gen Celica running strong. it's about as basic as they come but boy is it fun to drive.

[@bradshephard2177]

Honestly the regular reviews on that car convinced me to buy mine

[@asado300]

this video makes me feel good, RCR makes me feel good~

[@codygreene9067]

2:29 he did not appreciate those terrible shifts at all. Look at that side eye. 😂

[@nomoreheroes93]

11:00 "you can park a GR86 anywhere", really? Odds on this will become one of the most stolen cars of its generation, in the UK at least

[@skateboard987654321]

The manual will stop that from being a problem in the US

[@DB-sd3cw]

Is the UK an Islamic caliphate yet

[@458DESTRO]

@@skateboard987654321 beat me to it.

[@natem2396]

Can someone tell me why this is?

[@458DESTRO]

@@natem2396 Americans don’t usually get taught stick anymore. You have to have someone who already knows teach you how and most people don’t want to because it’s more work to drive manual than auto. The knowledge of how to drive them just isn’t around like it used to be. I lock my automatic transmission car every night but my manual truck is unlocked 24/7. I just don’t leave valuables in the truck.

[@twrcrew8852]

"277hp"??? huh? I thought it was 230 or something. that's a huge difference.

[@raptrz_]

yeah toyotas official dyno said it makes 228 hp, but it's closer to around 250ish after the engine break-in process. you can look up a video of it on the dyno

[@rindelzivas]

if I didn't have an FR-S in my driveway already, I'd be looking at this car *very closely.* As far as I can tell, it looks like the older car, but with everything turned up just that little more. But there's a certain character to the older body that this one somehow doesn't quite hit, at least for me. Still looks like a fabulous machine, and I'd love to give one a go to see how it stacks up against the modifications I've made to mine over the years.

[@WahotsW]

This with the turbocharged ascent /OBXT engine would be awesome.

[@Philozzi]

'86 was the year Scotty Kilmer decided the Celica would grant him a sweet skullet.

[@inspectorchicken]

Much better looking than the GT86 imo. One could drive this without being constantly reminded of sitting in a budget sportscar whilst not annoy your surroundings with anime styling tackyness. I'd see myself buying one for MSRP but no, it's also ruined due to inflated pricing and zero availability.

[@mojojoji5493]

Wrong dealerships are just scalping buyers

[@inspectorchicken]

@@mojojoji5493 that's exactly what I described

[@mojojoji5493]

@@inspectorchicken my bad sounded like you said inflation

[@LMacNeill]

God I love that rant against that Active Sound Control System. It's SOOOOOOOOO true!!! Why the hell do they do that?!!! FUCKING STOP IT!! I'm honestly fine with the "not 300 HP" numbers. This gen has a MUCH flatter torque curve (yes, it still has a dip, but nowhere near as much as it used to), which gives you a much better *FEEL* of acceleration when you drive it. And Jay's throttle-control mod? **chef's kiss** Absolutely perfect. Exactly what's needed. And those exhaust mods -- again, just what's needed. Wakes it up a bit without making it obnoxious. If I were going to buy one of these, I believe I would mod it exactly like he's done here. Well done!

[@warmstrong5612]

Needing to install "day 2 mods" like this guy did is nothing new. No 60's musclecar was ever perfect right out of the box either. Tweeking things is all part of the experience.

[@AaronSmith-kr5yf]

I think expectations have changed in the past 10 years or so. The Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger(to a lesser extent) have been MASSIVELY improved to where the factory tires are sufficiently wide, the brakes are decent to excellent(if you get the factory upgrade), the handling and suspension tune are pretty damn good out of the box. Unless you track the car on a road course or are just horsepower mad you really won't feel the need to do a bunch of mods. Even the exhausts are trick now days with a factory "LOUD" button lol

[@E38vip]

Crazy how this gr86 is ready to create its own legend and many stories. Just like it's brother before and it's brother before that. New supra already eating up gt500s with a tune,fbo, and 800 turbo kit. Good shit Toyota, no more boring cars 🤝

[@ericbell5466]

Hell yeah that guy is wearing a Far Beyond Driven shirt 🤘

[@stealthsection6442]

“ ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US !!! “ 😂😂😂

[@skidstung]

His simple build and your review…great 👌

[@Dziugenonas]

I'm gonna have a blast with one of those when I can afford it in 15 years.

[@FLBoyCanScrap]

277? It makes 228 hp. I swear sometimes RCR just phones it in.

[@faust13301]

I’m glad someone pointed this out.

[@xanafein8453]

Subaru/toyota definitely under reported it makes more than the 228 at the crank they say. I got mine on a dyno and was getting 216 at the wheel. Still not 277 at the crank, but probably around 248/250.

[@nickb1892]

If this channel is ever done, then I am also done. If I lose this type of humour, then I die.

[@strengthbuild]

The funny thing about this car having a PKES system is it makes it incredibly easy to steal but the fact that they are mostly manual transmission means basically every car thief can't drive it.

[@LupinYonderboy]

Unless you're in Europe

[@Dragon228833]

Been waiting for this video since they started popping up around February. I put in my “order” in for a white premium mt in February and now in July this video came out a day after I was told that my car will be here in 2 weeks!