2022 VW ID.4 vs Ford Mustang Mach-E review - best electric SUV? | What Car?

[@robertvanzant2653]

Doug your lack of loyalty to any manufacturer makes for honest and detailed reviews which are brilliant. Thank you and keep it up !

[@petercole474]

Test drove iD4 and Mach E, much preferred the Mach E, found the iD4 souless and dull to drive. The iD4 infotainment also was really poor.

[@Veidi-mt8ho]

The new ID Software 2.3 brings massively improved Infotainment experience. IMHO software can be changed easily instead of changing suspension behaviour.

[@jasmudhar3835]

The MACH E for me! Looks far better & has a brilliant infotainment system with proper switch gear. The VW looks dull & the switch gear would drive me nuts! A Mustang badge also has a classic cult following just like any classic VW has. Well done Ford!! A Great start to making electric cars.

[@savedby_grace6110]

Have fun with the road bumps...

[@ajmartineau5616]

Mach-E looks way better.

[@carnifex7176]

I recently decided to get a new car, and tried the two, plus Ioniq 5, and I think they are all good to drive. The ID 4 is a great car, and I don't think anyone choosing that would end up disappointed, but in the end I suppose it all comes down to feelings, and those is difficult to argue against/for. I ended up buying the top specified (Rapid Red) Mustang Mach E with RWD and the biggest battery, but it was not that it was a lot better. It was just the car that gave me the most enjoyment. It just felt more alive and better on the road. It was quick and responsive, and the sound system was awesome (B&O). And yes: Seeing that Mustang label around did bring out the little kid in me. To me it is the better looking car as well. Unfortunately I did not find the Ioniq 5 particularly interesting. Of course this is just personal preferences, but to me the interior was boring, the design was more like a 1980's Datsun, and I did not fall for the retro look at all. But a decent car to drive. A Tesla Model 3 was also considered, but it felt small compared to the others, and back seat and boot space was not good.

[@Jajalaatmaar]

So basically fanboying over pointless brands (Mustang and B&O). Seems like bad advice, but to each their own.

[@carnifex7176]

@@Jajalaatmaar seems like you didn't read the comment. Like i said: both cars are great. The differences are smaller things that makes the decision right no matter what your choose. Than it comes down to feelings.

[@19hcouk]

You made the same choice to me. The Mustang is the only one that put a smile on my face

[@almasayyahmelli7545]

Now 5 month has gone, are you still satisfied with Match- e? I want to buy a new EV and do not know choose RWD Match-E or ID-4 GTX!

[@MrKkdm]

mach e looks the better for me

[@jessicaal415]

ID4 Pro S owner here have had it for several weeks now. Very happy. I can’t help but notice that you didn’t talk about CarpPlay on the VW and criticized the system for being confusing yet you went straight to CarPlay when you switched to Mach-E going further as saying it’s better. VW has CarPlay and honestly that’s pretty much all I use when on the road. A bit disingenuous. Climate control: In the VW, from any screen you push a button for “climate” and adjust it on the screen, nothing hard about adjusting it there. Push “climate” again and it brings you back to the prior screen. No one has ever mentioned this in the 10 dozen of vids I’ve watched. Except that it’s very confusing for all. Lol. One push too many I guess🤷🏼‍♀️ I actually don’t like that those controls on the Mach-e is too low, takes one’s eyes away from the road quite a bit. Dangerous.

[@PedroBrandaodrums]

Both cars are good but I purchased the ID.4 and very happy with my decision car drives good, spacious and so quiet plus 3 years of unlimited charge is a no brainer. Awesome video.

[@leoesposito8762]

Ford should let Ford Europe to tune the suspension and steering for European conditions simple... 👍

[@citaron]

They did, and they overdid it. Reviews of the US-specified version describe the Mach E as comfortable and smooth. Also, I think the much thinner tires do a pretty bad job too.

[@19hcouk]

@@citaron Have you driven the mustang It has really nice ride and I have discovery 5 going to mustang

[@chickenfortress7956]

In my opinion no one should buy lower specs cars (entry level). If I cant afford medium/high specs, I take a step back and re-assess my options.

[@ProjectFairmont]

The frunk is essentially discounted here on the Mach e. It’s practical and can serve as a ice cooler since it has a drain plug.

[@19hcouk]

The front boot is 80L is quiet big shame you cant open it with remote

[@alexandermilosevic_]

I hate this move to capacitive and touch... Thanks for the honest opinion. I cringed watching you try and use it.

[@rogerberntsen6084]

The whole world hated capacitive thouch when Apple introduced iPhone.., I do not know if you where one of them, but I know what happend to the phones that did not have...

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

Test drove a Q4 and Mach e today, Mustang was much more fun, and easier to use

[@KeliK1]

Great video! VW should fix that infotainment. Every motorist journalist complains about this. It's indeed disappointing from VW.

[@larkrafuse7027]

VW is known for non user friendly info systems .. from way back ... sad

[@antonthompson7838]

@@larkrafuse7027 Totally false motoring journalists have always said that Volkswagen’s had great infotainment systems, until all this touchscreen business!

[@NedNew]

New software release due this week. Will have to wait and see if it improves things.

[@cundycross]

@@NedNew like reliability? Have VW sorted the sudden power loss issues?. I've seen 3 id3's broken down so far, not very good. But then it's what we should expect from VAG. I've started compiling a list of most common cars I see at the side of the road, basically it's anything German, and this is backed up by reliability reports and breakdown companies yet people still buy them. fools.

[@onederment]

@@NedNew I heard the haptic touch buttons feel different and not much time lag on screen response... and you can even change the home button to the flag of your choice

[@IReapZz95]

yeah i wanted to get the id4 when the AWD version comes out at the end of the year in the US for the extra little bit of power that is missing in the RWD version

[@AlanFlanger]

Good video. Looking forward to a Q4 Etron review by you guys.

[@19hcouk]

Q4 is worst EV ive driven, its a 4 out of 10, suspension rubbish noise over bumps, really slow

[@KasperCDK]

I have the ID4 and I love it. So much room, and I our 3500 km roadtrip from Denmark to Italy and back was a treat. And I have hight adjustment of the boot in my ID4.

[@KasperCDK]

@Jimbo Über I have no software glitch. But the features of the software could still use an upgrade. Seems like v3.0 is coming this spring. The steering wheel is actually a plus when you get use to it.

[@bigboobearboo]

@@KasperCDK hej hej Casper. I also live in Denmark, and on Monday i will get my id4 pro (77kw). We are planning to go visit my family in Italy this summer, Bologna, 100 km south of the Garda lake. I have some questions, I really hope you can help. How many charging stops did you? And how many passengers and luggage was in the car? Was it easy with the to find fast charges?

[@matizami]

We desire physical buttons for the A/C and volume. Is that too difficult to ask?

[@rogerrandall6124]

100% agree 👍

[@7spower998]

Get over it. EVs don't have buttons but ICEVs do.

[@chopsueykungfu]

The volume buttons with haptic feedback on the steering wheel are fine enough. No A/C ones though.

[@antonthompson7838]

No that’s not a difficult ask, it’s just car makers like think that they know what we want to drive and have in our cars, it’s called you get what you’re f****** given!

[@rogerberntsen6084]

I had ID3 for 5 months and ID4 for 3 monthjs.. do not see any problems a t all.. The whole world hated capacitive thouch when Apple introduced iPhone.., I do not know if you where one of them, but I know what happend to the phones that did not have...

[@Maccaboy1984]

Absolutely HATE that giant Mach-E touchscreen.

[@Petelmrg]

Great for wannabe US Cops, though...

[@RichardJoashTan]

BUT I LOVE IT.

[@anthonylojik5848]

Call me picky but I don’t like the fact that the Ford doesn’t have door handles on doors. Think I personally prefer the look of the VW

[@19hcouk]

drive them both you will change your mind

[@DanAchatz1]

I have driven both. I ordered the Mach E. The stereo in the ID4 sounds bad and it not really fun to drive like the Mach E.

[@paekgom23]

Regarding climate control on ID.4: you always have the climate control icon on the infotainment system, so even in cases you don't see the hardware buttons (which you can control blind anyway) you can use the infotainment to adjust the climate settings. But sure backlit would be nice. Regarding double floor: ID.4 does have an adjustable floor, however in very limited configuration options. (E.g. right now only available with the first max). Regarding touch sensitive keys on the driving wheel. Well I am not sure whether an owner will have that issues. In my case after 2000 km I never managed to activate the touch sensitive buttons by accident. Where I have issues: connectivity issues with app or with the internet (VW common problem, not ID.4 specific), comfort opening of back hatch behaves differently to BMWs solution. What I do not miss: one pedal driving. I never even use B(reak) mode. D(rive) mode automatically decides whether to slow down and recuperate or "sail" i.e. roll forward in a neutral position and save energy.

[@blarkdexture8899]

ID.3 the best

[@film50565]

The reviewer asked for opinions, and here is my clear impression after driving a Mach-E Premium and ID.4. The ID.4 is the far better sorted vehicle. It's a zen-like experience, really, and that is almost completely high praise except for one sticking point--acceleration is rather dull. An BEV should have a much better sense of smooth, nearly bottomless torque at lower speeds. The Mach-E is poorly sorted. I especially detested the crude regenerative braking that lurched the whole car forward, but the ride even at low speeds is fatiguing and the handling on a hairpin curve is nerve-racking. The ID.4 has the best ride/steering/handling of any SUV I've ever driven. I did not notice the praiseworthy ground clearance at all, and the turning radius is almost shocking it's so good. Yes, the climate control interface is awful and the Ford is marginally better looking. But the ID.4 is real SUV with ground clearance and towing capacity and the Ford is neither a true Mustang nor a true SUV. I say that as a proud owner of a Ford Focus ST. When I'm in the market for an SUV the ID.4 will be on the short list. Cheers from the USA.

[@19hcouk]

You must be over 60 to say that the mustang is a far better ride and faster, more exciting.

[@deurkl]

Interestingly, the leasing price (here in Germany) is very different for these cars for similar conditions. The ID.4 is around a few hundred euros per month cheaper for the same contract and specs. Strange!

[@_TrueDesire_]

a german mainstream car cheaper in Germany? 🙄

[@deurkl]

@@_TrueDesire_ The purchasing price is the same in Germany, just the leasing price is much lower.

[@_TrueDesire_]

@@deurkl might be your government given some tax relief or VW thinking it's better to lose a few euros than to lose €300-400 a month having the buyer going to another brand. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@EinkOLED]

Das ist Numberwang.

[@MW-uh1xv]

I imagine it has more to do with the future value of a relatively unknown brand Mustang in Europe vs VW.

[@yellowsnowman9157]

Id4 is the winner now that the infotainment has been fixed with software updates.... Plus most people will use wireless Android auto and car play. Id4 gives everything you need at better value. Just throw on Awd and it's everything you need.

[@johnwhite2143]

Id choose the mustang mach e, much better looking car, looks great👌

[@RichardJoashTan]

@11:12 But I prefer The Ford Mustang Mach-E

[@alexandermilosevic_]

Thanks for the video. Can you please add a segment on baby seat fitment? The shape of front seats and recline of rear really affects the way they sit. Thanks!

[@DaraM73]

The id4 has iso-fix passenger in front and rear

[@augustinmarginean]

There are so many things going really wrong on the VW , from poor quality materials to massive issues with the infotainment system ( saw another review where infotainment became unresponsive or completely shut down eight times during the review! ) and still the reviewers feel the need to push VW up...Best thing for everyone is to take test drive and speak with friends for long term feedback if possible as..you can't trust the honesty of this guys

[@jamesseay9943]

My thoughts exactly

[@christiandufour4152]

I tested the ID4 for 3 days and never once encountered the kind of issues this reviewer had with the infotainment system. Either the vehicle was pre-production or there was a technical problem and not smart enough to try to fix it, preferring to show us an infotainment system that is unresponsive and lagging unacceptably.

[@1winlock]

Pretty equal, but you didn't address charging times. Given that the Ford loses every time.

[@mattgray6436]

Everything else on the Ford is better lol

[@whitemoor66]

Fix the restless ride quality (which is clear even from the front on exterior shots while driving) and of the two I would take the Ford. Exterior looks more interesting, interior looks better to my eyes too and range is similar whilst having more performance. Overall though I probably wouldn't buy either!

[@radospuric1051]

Good review and in 4k 👍👏

[@tm9184]

Bro so which one should I get!!!?

[@delsmith5327]

VW are overthinking everything, the UX is all over the place. It's why new VW cars are really bland compared to the rest of the brands in the group.

[@johnminshall242]

Good review comparison. Personally I’d choose an Enyaq over these two, though if I was spending £40k I’d definitely want to review Ioniq5 and EV6 first before committing!

[@alexostafi2555]

Ford, all day long! ❤️

[@JP-hb4mv]

Keep the videos coming! Good work

[@krzysztofcwik5347]

Compering those two i choose Enyaq;) Can't wait for EV6 and Ioniq 5 battle

[@19hcouk]

Ioniq is loads better than the VW group EVs the Mustang is the best

[@peakproofuk]

When does the model y come to the U.K.?

[@19hcouk]

Ages away mid 2022 end 2022 if your lucky, Mach e is best choice while your waiting

[@joeykiller3938]

The ID4 exterior looks much better, IMHO - especially in these configurations, with 20 inch wheels on the ID4 and 18 inch wheels on the Mach-E. I don´t understand the hype regarding the design of the Mach-E. I´m not a fan of those "stuck on screens" that the ID4 has, but that enormous, standing "computer screen" in the Mach-E looks ridiculous.

[@TaeKwonMoe]

The big screen is awesome so far!

[@19hcouk]

Mustang is 8/10 the VW 4/10 drive them then you will see

[@marius1794]

VW cutting corners to recover the money they lost years ago with the diesel scandal.

[@7spower998]

EM keeps raising the price of the Teslas to recover the money lost by his $420 funding secured tweetgate.

[@Igoriann]

Mach E for sure

[@tjiddeakse683]

Definitely prefer the Mach-E!

[@Garconbleu]

But why? What about it appeals to you?

[@tjiddeakse683]

@@Garconbleu Mainly range and control panel. But also the slightly sporty handling (it remains an SUV ;-) These are elements I still like in my current model S and didn’t really find it in other EV’s (so far, also not the Enyaq).

[@SupermanPk1994]

Does the UK spec Mach-E have the passcode on the door?

[@gingerone3801]

Love the id4 and waiting for ours to arrive

[@davidjohn0505]

Hope you get a better infotainment system than this crap plastic one in this review

[@PaulHo]

Previous car?

[@gingerone3801]

@@PaulHo Citroen c4 grand Picasso

[@CoxJul]

With any luck you should get it with 2.3 installed - only disappointment so far.

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

Sounds like a well balanced review, I liked the analysis. Some of the on screen comparison stats would be easier to review if side by side on screen. I would prefer an ID4 VW, before I saw the review - however, the infotainment and steering wheel buttons turned me right off. I wouldn't go for the Mach E because its a Mustang badge (better pedigree would have been Ford I think) and its just too expensive for the range it gives, I'd rather go for the EV6 Kia (Ok, one might have argued Kia vs Mustang but I think Kia has broken through that now). Of course (?), Tesla would be my number one still for an EV but the shapes are boring now. So, come on VW - "Can do better" on the report card for this one

[@RichardJoashTan]

Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E GT anyway.

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

@@RichardJoashTan Mach-E - Its the cheaper option, but still the better of these 2. So yes, why not save a few pounds - Will get you some extra 50p's for your electric meter

[@christiandufour4152]

Have you tried one? I thought the same way before I tested it for three days to tell myself that in the end, I do not understand at all what the journalists have to make a big deal out of the infotainment system. After driving the ID4 and the Mach-e, smoothness is much more important to me and the Mach-e suspension is a deal breaker in my case.

[@ttolst]

Oh no, i was hoping the Mach-E did not have the classic Ford suspension that makes it feel slightly like being on a boat, this will be a deal breaker for me if i feel the same when i try one. I generally love VWs handling, but i can't see myself living with their software, capacitive buttons and no stereo upgrade. I feel the GTX model is super silly too, it should just have been an AWD upgrade option

[@19hcouk]

Mustang Mach e puts more off a smile on my face than my VW Gti TCR

[@knowntobehonest]

A Ford that is not nice to drive. And VW messing up interieur materials and ergonomics. The world has gone mad!

[@martidonegal1]

Would def say that new skoda enyaq is better than the vw from what i have seen

[@davidjohn0505]

I agree the ID 4 looks horribly dated

[@DaraM73]

@@davidjohn0505 that’s funny, I don’t remember a modern electric car needing a massive plastic Skoda grill from the ICE-age, or as in the Ford a styling package directly formed from a 60’s V8.

[@conradbrown7619]

Well, I test drove these two, the Enyaq and the EV6. For me the id4 won it. It just felt right for me. Yes I was a little concerned on range even with the bigger battery, the Enyaq was great and had bits I preferred (like buttons) but the id4. £ for £ felt a better deal and the drive feeling was better. (The EV6, ok but not big enough of a boot and you can't fit a roof rack to it). I agree the infotainment isn't the best but the others weren't spot on either. Hopefully they can bring more upgrades to the software and it just works. As for 1 pedal breaking - the id4 does have it - it just doesn't physically stop (2 to 3 mph). Then you have rest your foot on the pedal - it does it for me! - now just the wait to get one.

[@UltraJaff]

If I got an EV, I’d look at the Mach-E, Tesla model 3 or one of the Korean options because they look stunning, plus I like the sound of fast charging and V2L.

[@AKA001]

The Mustang MachE is a bit like buying a Mustang EcoBoost… very capable, but all your mates with real Mustangs laugh at you… and why spend £7000 more on a car that does effectively the same.

[@TaeKwonMoe]

Honestly have had two”real mustangs” drivers give compliments at stop lights.

[@beachbumis]

Instant torque and AWD come to mind as reasons to buy the Mach-E instead of an ICE Mustang.

[@robc8593]

Biggest problem is standard Mach-E has too little range, but Ford charge £9000 for an extra 24kWh long range battery. Its too much.

[@Noah_E]

The Mach E looks better, has better quality materials, but I HATE how poorly integrated the main display is and the gimmicky door handles. Seriously, it looks like at the last step of the manufacturing process they realized they forgot the display and had to tack in onto a normal dash while the assembly line was still rolling. Just awful. And why can't EVs use normal door handles and actual dials and switches? Function should come before aesthetics or a "need" to be different. Why replace things that have worked for a century for no tangible gain?

[@robcarson6127]

Q. Whats the difference between these two cars and Mogadon. ? A. The these two would be better at putting you to sleep than Mogadon.

[@stepheng8779]

Getting to the end of that same

[@notfound3763]

when do you have a car like this, the car is very good

[@usfouru2]

Mach E for me! But for now I’ll stick with my MG ZS EV and wait for the MG MARVEL R:-)

[@NL90000]

The inside of the id4 looks so retro and not in a good way. The Mach E awd long range is the way better choice

[@Taakeheim]

Dont mind the capacative buttons on the steering wheel. Got used to them real quick, and never accidentally press one. The sliders below the screen though, and especially having no backlight is really annoying. Tested both cars. Bought the ID.4 and very happy with it.

[@michaelsch.7830]

Totally agree. We have an Cupra Formentor which also has the VW MIB. The worst infotainment system ever. Slow , bad ergonimcs and crashing very often. The next car will be no VW company car if they dont change the MIB, the system is a complete katastrophe and if possible, i would return the very good Formentor because of that shitty system.

[@khalid969]

Excellent review.

[@alanr1062]

I won't be getting a fully electric vehicle until the charging network improves. Its pretty lamentable at the moment.

[@19hcouk]

Charge at home Igloo every at 5p per Kw

[@yabandeh]

Thank you

[@markdickson3820]

Both get a pass, I could never live with that vw interior, it’s just awful. Ford is priced a little too high in uk but that ride quality sounds like it would be a deal breaker - tho I like a lot about the ford, that interior is very well done. Despite what the reviewer said, ford gets closer for me but needs an update or two. VW needs to fire their interior designer and start again, the steering wheel is some sort of torture device and the climate/infotainment is shockingly bad. Vw also hasn’t judged the power delivery/range/battery situation in the best way in my opinion, it needs a little more power to be useful. Hyundai/Kia twins may end up being the better choice, tho they need a little bit of time to be fairly judged because initial Mach e reviews were glowing.

[@RichardJoashTan]

Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E GT anyway.

[@markdickson3820]

@@RichardJoashTan I'm jealous, I'm sure it'll be great to have an ev. The Ford/Mustang looks so good, especially the interior

[@84SGB]

Nice review. Should just buy a Skoda Enyaq 80 instead 😁

[@DaraM73]

Why? It’s the same car. The 1st edition ID4 is the best bang for buck value going. (Uk)

[@MrSnicol]

Both cars appear compromised but still better then a petrol or diesel alternative. I will stick with my Model 3 thanks 😊

[@davidjohn0505]

I agree these two cars are not futuristic in fact the VW is typical SUV blob and that infotainment system looks cheap and plastic looking and any review I have seen on KZbin says it is unresponsive, slow and just a pain to use. I think it is terrible that these two major car manufacturers have come out with these two poor specimens of electric cars when Tesla have hit the ground running with superb designs. I don’t have a Tesla and probably will never own one but I can appreciate what they done in revolutionising the car market

[@scorpo187]

Typical Tesla owner with the backhanded compliment.

[@tesla_models]

Hello

[@TaeKwonMoe]

When you were talking about the Mach E’s driving performance did you have it on whisper, engage, unbridled? Or are you just saying overall all three were a “fidgety school child.” Really curious.

[@philmorbey1827]

Looks wise inside and out mach e. I need to drive them both though. Pity neither has a heat pump which would improve efficiency and range. Shame on you both ford and vw!

[@willswomble7274]

Doesn't the iD4 have a heat pump etc as standard in Canada and Norway?

[@citaron]

With these battery sizes and motor outputs, a heat pump is no longer necessary and the gain in efficiency is minimal. A heat pump makes more sense for cars with low power and a small battery. Also, for the power and weight, the Mach E is already really efficient, allthoug its not as good as a Tesla.

[@19hcouk]

Who needs heating I only ever use heated steering wheel and heated seats even on my discovery 5 im now swapping for a mustang, Dont like dry air heating

[@voice1174]

i like mach E adn i would buy it ❤❤❤

[@matpat2636]

Out of those 2 I'd buy the Skoda Enyaq. I still think of you're in the market for a £40k ish SUV EV, wait for the Korean's. The Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 look better than both of the cars tested. I wouldn't buy the Mustang or ID4 with my own money.

[@ChrisdyMD]

Agree completely with this comment. I have already ordered the Hyundai IONIQ 5 after looking at both these models and deciding that the IONIQ 5 was superior to both.

[@matpat2636]

@@ChrisdyMD I love the styling of the Ioniq. Wish I had the money to get in one. I think it’s gonna be a brilliant car. The Kona was one of the best car’s I’ve ever owned (even with the battery problems), and the Ioniq 5 moves the game on in a big way. Given it’s come out at roughly the same time as the Mustang and ID4, it really show’s how far ahead the Koreans are.

[@RichardJoashTan]

BUT I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED MUSTANG MACH-E GT ANYWAY BECAUSE IT IS THE EV OF THE YEAR NAMED BY CAR & DRIVER.

[@yiwang2119]

How about the level 2 assistant autopilot system

[@nr9926]

It is awesome. i used 250 + mile

[@yiwang2119]

@@nr9926 same as Tesla enhanced autopilot ?

[@nr9926]

@@yiwang2119 i have used comma open pilot in camry for 10k+ miles..id4 travel assist is far better than open pilot..atleast equal to tesla level 2 auto pilot..but lane change we have to do..but smooth slow down when another car changing into our lane..braking and acceleration is smooth…

[@yiwang2119]

@@nr9926 looks like it has adaptive cruise control+lane change but not hands free nor parallel parking

[@nr9926]

@@yiwang2119 4000$ you have to pay in tesla to get this. This is not big feature

[@ghostjen]

id 4 get lost, i want the mustang !!!!

[@jjgermancarsdontsignal7746]

Ionic 5 would be my choice if i were buying an ev.

[@mattgray6436]

Why? It’s slower than the Mach e, less screen space, less features and less range not to mention less cargo space.

[@19hcouk]

Most sensible buy but not exciting like the mach e, The ionic is better than the VW evs

[@davidaden4147]

ID4

[@gerrytemple5044]

None of these will be the future for me. I'd go with a Volvo XC-40-e or a Polestar 2.

[@Ryanjordandrums]

Mach-E

[@oris247]

After all that, they recommend the crappier VW- eh? This obsession with VW is clearly deeply held.

[@holaadios9958]

Ioniq 5 wins hands down

[@kinocchio]

vw is horrible, generally speaking.

[@Garconbleu]

And fords been stellar? The compromises. Make both of these non starters for me.

[@kinocchio]

@@Garconbleu true

[@richardt2052]

ID4 all the way!!

[@19hcouk]

Joke drive them both you wont be saying that then

[@tesla_models]

​@paulhawes6412 for europe driving conditions id4 is betterv For usa conditions mustang mach e is better

[@DaraM73]

At last, someone has an objective review.

[@orcaflotta7867]

Mustang was always a good looking car, with the Mach-E they unfortunately bungled it up.

[@alexgray1905]

Electric FORD ... really, REALLY? And in the US where is the charging network ... anyone?

[@19hcouk]

Charge at home

[@nicholasrigg8999]

Which do I prefer? The Kia E-niro: better range, decent infotainment and a lot cheaper

[@AndreICBAS]

Ford: driver's car VW: grandma's car

[@gentlestorm]

VW has some work ahead of them to not fall behind in tech.

[@robertjonker8131]

In terms of range, price and the ride itself (comfort, noise etc) they are already pretty good. Just the infotainment is shitty but thats not really a dealbreaker.

[@sth128]

Any SUV that doesn't have a ski pass through is useless. SPORT UTILITY vehicle. Mach-E? More like Mach-F.

[@antonthompson7838]

I thought you’d have put the Mach e against the ID.4 GTX seeing as they are similarly powered!

[@MrIbernie]

If you look at the latest ford sales report. Ford had produced 34K Mach-e. The have only sold 13K. The mach -e is not selling well with over 20K in inventory.

[@richardkeane3051]

Mach E definitely. Both the ID3 & 4 have horrible interiors and the tech is terrible. Sort it out VW. You’re better than this…🤔

[@MrSnicol]

The poor user experience and drop in quality ( too much hard plastic) means I will not be buying a new VW product.

[@davidbarber6268]

Come on guys you need to get over this obsession with infotainment systems, my last Mercedes only had a radio and CD player and that was 7 years old, there are more important things to obsess about

[@CoxJul]

I don't know how you're driving the ID.4, after 1,500 miles I'm truly getting 290-300miles out of the battery. Right now I have 80% and 235m range - had 100% this morning and did 60 miles today (60% of which motorway)!

[@rob_4227]

Really looking forward to owning an electric car someday, but these two offerings seem like big compromises on range. On a road trip I can get nearly 500 miles with my little Corolla if I drive conservatively.

[@dermotsmith2706]

Recharge technology has to be revolutionised, I know there are breakthroughs in labs with aligning electrons using innovative techniques to allow recharging in minutes rather than hours but it is years away as it would require all new public chargers too. As it is, even if your Corolla could only do 250 miles, it only takes a few minutes to turn that into 500.

[@CoxJul]

And how many times do you stop and for how long on a 500 mile trip? A couple of times for 20-30 minutes when you could easily load another 300 miles charge? The ID.4 will get you there easily.

[@skandiflik]

Mac e, that touchscreen in the VW looks crap

[@matthewchetcuti3278]

I love how he says the VW controls aren't backlit when literal seconds before that they show the controls lit up.....

[@cheeky_farquar]

Ford Mustang Mach-E for me - I don't like the ID range at all.