2023 BMW M240i XDrive ... Drifting? Yep!

Nobody wants to sell me an extended warranty. :(

[@youtuber-cc8sx]

Can you please explain a little bit for noobs what they should do in case the want to delete xdrive?

[@nikob1010]

Agree with KZbinr cc8sx Please make a video explaining the advantages/disadvantages is it bad for the transfer case? Does xdelete work on 22 plus model m240s?

[@nikob1010]

Hey bro, i got a 22 m240i and ive been looking into xdelete, what is the process of installing? Theres also this new setup by trucrane motorsports that I'm wondering if you know anything about Tjank you

[@kyleash3614]

Really interesting video and info in the comments here. I’ve been trying to learn how to get my MY24 xdrive M240i to be more tail happy and power slide. I find if I’m powering it out of a 90 degree junction from a standstill I just get understeer. In dry conditions I find it almost impossible to step the rear out. Largely use the sport “traction” mode as I don’t want to bin it on public road so like having the safety net compared to DSC OFF. However in the rain the thing comes a live and can be tricky to control at times. I’m still very new and maybe just being over cautious

[@CubanRider]

Love it. Share your secrets so I can smoke these stupid run flats.

[@therealjulez7886]

HAHAHA same bro! my 2024 came wit these bridgestone RF's! hate em

[@MRFizzler1]

Nice driving.. but why the m4 competition badge at the shifter? :D Bought my M240i 4 days ago and i'll go get it next week.. im so excited!!!

[@xPyro_G42]

Good eye! It has an M4 Competition badge on the shifter because it's an M4 Competition shifter. ;) All iDrive8 equipped non-M cars have a lightswitch-like toggle. I despise it. I put this in hoping it would let me -/+ shift (the paddles on the wheel are so hard to keep track of when drifting...), but, the M-car transmissions have a slightly different shifter CAN packet structure. I am not able to use it for shifting, so I just kept it because why not haha.

[@MRFizzler1]

@@xPyro_G42 ye true... those pedals really arent good for drifting/racing... and the blinker/windshieldwiper levers are so close when i test drove my car i always hit those levers, while trying to shift. Shifter looks nice though :) (i got the new model... it just has this small shift knob -.-) Btw nice drifts. ;)

[@Dropz_RSA]

It’s looks like fun, but it does look heavy. But still would take this.

[@xPyro_G42]

A small price to pay for being able to survive landing upside-down on a guard rail, unscratched (like Misha). A small price to pay for somehow actually being fast as fuck. A small price to pay for being able to run 9s on a stock block.

[@tytlyf]

Any engine/transmission mods? It would be cool to see the drifting from the sidelines

[@xPyro_G42]

xHP Stage3 but that's totally not required. Bone stock tune. Stock wheels. Stock ride height. Stock adaptive suspension. Stock market. Chicken stock. Stalker: Chernobyl out of Stock.

[@xPyro_G42]

What just happened I blacked out

[@sgman41]

What’s the song?

[@xPyro_G42]

This is a DJ mix from @CuruxaUK, from a furry 'convention' that takes place in virtual reality. The event is called Furality. This was Curuxa's mix from "Furality Legends" in 2021. You can find the full mix here (timestamped): kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYPCioWFiah6i9E Good luck not dancing in your seat. 😏

[@OsirisPL]

This is with FWD disabled, so only RWD right?

[@xPyro_G42]

Correct. I have another video of, gasp, drifting it with AWD turned on that I'll upload soon. Lots of new info I want to share with the world regarding "xdrive vs rwd" purchase debate lol.

[@R03333]

​@@xPyro_G42It drifting doesn't make it not heavy, you can drift a Rolls Royce if you had deep enough pockets

[@xPyro_G42]

@@R03333 I got 27 laps (on this layout/event) on this pair of iMove Gen2's. I drove home on them, and have been driving on them still. The tires cost me $170/pair. I was hitting 43ish MPH GPS speed and I've hit 4th gear this day. So: * A single pair of tires lasted me an entire drift event * My GPS speed was faster than cars at the last Formula Drift event. * I leave an F22 in the dust despite being 500lbs heavier. "Heavy" is dead to me after driving this car. 😈

[@klaus5415]

@@xPyro_G42 Excited for this video.

[@kyleash3614]

@@xPyro_G42how did you disable xdrive

[@karl5428]

LSD?

[@xPyro_G42]

Yes and no. This car has the same differential as the G87 M2 (but with one less clutch disk, and the servo's torque programmed differently). It is by design an open differential but there is a clutch pack by the ring gear which squeezes to lock the axles. Not limit - LOCK. The fluid, servo motor current, "steps" rotated, clutch wear (measured by motor current), and temperatures are all calibrated dizzyingly well - so the DSC system (even with "DSC OFF" mind you....) knows exactly how hard to squeeze to send ft-lbs to each wheel. Not torque split. Not limited slip. Actual, "only send 200ftlb from the engine, to the outer wheel, to prevent oversteer spinout" type shit.

[@rautoiua]

@@xPyro_G42 I'm curious about the rwd version if it has the same diff. I have the 2024 rwd version and it feels exactly like the M2 differential and I didnt see any slip if you drive it hard(track+alot of sideways action). I guess the only way to find out is to search the serial number and compare. I dindnt find any technical data about both to compare.

[@xPyro_G42]

EDIT: I wrote all of this thinking you meant slip ANGLE (not rear diff slip), by "didn't see any slip." ​@@rautoiua ​ The differential is absolutely the same as the M-cars; per BMW technician training documents (no marketing/bs; these docs must be accurate or a technician could get hurt lol). The only difference is 1 extra clutch in the pack. Even the servo motor and control module ("GHAS") is the same. Note: the GHAS only handles locking the differential. It doesn't directly control _when_ it will lock, with regards to vehicle dynamics. That is to say: my XDrive car (in this video) is doing everything a 2023 RWD M240i would do. The diff is definitely the same, including on your car. There's no way they would change the programming on the DSC system (which controls the diff) between 23-24. It's an ASIL D compliant system that would take YEARS of testing. I will validate your observation tho: the car has to be driven like a COMPLETE fucking DUMBASS. You have to keep your foot on the throttle WAY more than any other car. If you lift even slightly while hooning in public streets, it will immediately snap back to straight. The failure mode of a G-series car is to save your ass - not spin out (but it can still v much spin out lol). In fact, the rear differential starts to open up as you hit full lock, so as to keep you from having more yaw than you can safely control. On track, the car knows when you want to throw it sideways or not. The diff behaves accordingly. Super tail-happy when you've feinted it (right-left-right/release initiation in this video). But if I just gas it while turning, I basically understeer the whole time. The rear diff will also lock up as you gun it out of a turn. As I write this, I think I'm starting to realize it all boils down to: the diff likes to let you drift if you start the drift from 0* of steering angle. I should try and test this theory sometime.

[@rautoiua]

@@xPyro_G42 very nice explanation! The thing is that before I bought this car I tried the xdrive version. I wanted a rwd but I wanted to be sure that i dont miss something. Yes, from standing still will be faster but on the rwd version I didnt feel the understeer. To be mentioned, it is the ztk package without the adaptive suspension. I wanted the biggest brakes with the 245 michelin front tires. From the 225 that is standard..it is night and say difference. Also I wanted the non adaptive suspension. I do racing in my national endurance series and I set up racing cars for others and I want the suspension to be the same. Not to change if you put it on sport OR for example you select sport and you feel that the suspension is fighting to make it hard. It is a battle that the suspension will lose. The non adaptive is way way better for sporty/track driving. Also I chose g42 because it was faster than the last m2. I was surprised about this but it felt way better. More feeling on the older one but the clock doesnt lie. On the g42 I felt the understeer only once when I was on a very twisty road in the mountains with a very veeery bad road surface(bouncy) and it was low speed also. Maybe I have a bad habit to do trailbraking even when I drive normally and this may be the answer why I dont have understeer. My brakes and front tires most probably will go in max 1 year but thats not a problem. I think I felt the rear like the m2 because I also have a habit of using the weight of the car in my advantage. I will go and try to find somewhere to weight it. I m pretty sure they lied about the weight. I think is a 1600kg car ( in my spec with rwd and no sunroof). It is chonky but the car masks the weight extremly well. When the rear tires will start to go dead I will try what you said with the steering angle. Very curious about full lock drifts if the diff will feel like a locked one or an open one.

[@rautoiua]

@@xPyro_G42 ps sorry if my english is not perfect 😆 but I like when I see someone that knows more than wheels are round and the acceleration is good. The details make the difference.