2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual Review | The Sledgehammer!

2023 Camaro ZL1 1LE Manual Review Is The Sledgehammer! The Camaro ZL1 1LE is not a newcomer to the American Muscle Car segment but this track focused model was first introduced in 2018 but these cars are so rare and hard to find it took me years to finally get a chance to make these videos for the channel. In this video I highlight the unique differences between the GM Alpha platform and the S550 Mustang platform. I discuss quality of the build inside and out and of course the driving dynamics of this car on the streets of NY. The LT4 powertrain and Tremec TR6060 6 Speed are perfectly in harmony with this car in every scenario. Power delivery is addictive to input any throttle on a stretch of open road. The chassis is rock solid and the Multimatic coilovers are tuned so incredible once your on the right pavement. The Brembo brakes could be better as I mention the Shelby GT350R and GT500 do stop better and have better initial bite. The Camaro ZL1 1LE uses a sophisticated E Diff controlled by the GM Performance Traction Management software and it is definitely a unique attribute in this class of cars that is not used in Ford and the Dodge products. The 6th Gen Camaro ZL1 1LE seating position and pedal placement are also better for my anatomy than the S550 Mustang platform and the car is just a pure joy to drive. With sinister aggressive styling, a comfortable cabin with awesome Recaro multi way seats this is one of my favorite cars I ever had to chance to experience. Hope you enjoy this video and we will bring the ZL1 1LE back in a few months for some higher speed twisty backroad POV drives to really see what this machine can do.
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[@autofanaticcars]

Can anyone comment and tell me the exact number of ZL1 1 LE manufactured since 2018-2024 run? Do you also know the breakdown between manual and 10 speed auto versions. Thank you

[@coreypatterson1386]

Sorry no one knows

[@autofanaticcars]

really there is no real data on the numbers no idea why GM does this on these limited cars as it would help owners understand the values long term.

[@The_Drive_Inside]

This will take some time as there were so few produced into 2024. The 10speed came in 2019….bulk of ZL1 production was 2017-2020. Let me see if I can add em up in a few days. Keep uploading I’ll tell you

[@AllIsWell_22]

Entire model run for the ZL1/1LE was under 4500 cars. GM heritage center can give you an exact number for each year.

[@Gdimina]

If he thinks the stock zl1 feels fast he needs to drive tbe GT500 or a Challenger Super Stock

[@chains6558]

I feel fortunate to have a 2023 ZL1 and I noticed when I’m in the passing lane on a highway cars in front of me immediately get over where as when I’m in my truck with the same scenario they don’t move over . Those ZL1’s look intimidating all right .

[@danielgrier5637]

Thats a good feeling! Its a rare car you see on the roads. I have a 17 ZL1, theses cars in particular arent over saturation like a charger or challenger etc..

[@autofanaticcars]

@danielgrier5637 your 100% right I swear I see dozens of those Dodges on the road daily in my area, rarely see a Mustang or Camaro and I think Dodge overproduced their cars versus Ford and GM by a huge margin.

[@chains6558]

;so True@@danielgrier5637

[@shatz72]

Ha ha I agree…I have a 2017 ZL1 and it still makes me smile to this day…I love the front end and most people move to the right lane when they see me coming. Impressive car and won’t be selling anytime soon!!!

[@daddyschainsjewelry]

Hahahaha thats not why they just dont want you up their ass the whole time

[@gregory7414]

Wow bro. Very good video. The best actually. I have a 2023 1LE with the 6 speed manual. It's not a ZL1. Only because I could not get one! But I'll settle for the 455 HP. I love it.

[@autofanaticcars]

Awesome car and yours is fully usable on most public roads with risk of jail time 😂

[@Fredzed721]

I love my ZL1 1LE.

[@albertbeltran7094]

Me too!! The dealer is buying from me, 2x i was offered but i did not mind them.. Just love my car!!

[@nathanhoffman5230]

Great review! Congrats and enjoy

[@devils2727]

I have a 2022 ZL1 1LE and love driving it. The Handling is amazing. I’m very happy with it😃

[@failingup4907]

I wonder how it compares to my C7 Z51 M7.

[@dougb3740]

Great video Phil! I wish could afford to park one of these next to my Z28. The car is AWESOME!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@autofanaticcars]

Z28 is sick too way more usable on the street the ZL1 wants to try to kill you i feel it spinning at 80mph

[@bwaters698]

ZL1 Hands Down!! Baddest and Best Looking Muscle Car Ever Made!! Most Bang for Buck, And As 1 die hard Shelby Mustang Onwer Said As Much As He Loved His Mustang He Had To Admit The Mustang Feels Like You Set On The Car While When Set In The ZL1 It Feels Like You Set In The Car !!!!!!

[@TheDRpepper516]

Great review! I just got a 24' 3lt rs, every time I get in it the joy I feel is unreal, phenomenal car.

[@joe2SS1LE]

The 1LE package is the way to go, great choice! I have a ‘23 2SS 1LE M In shadow grey. Stock at 455 horses is so much fun. I can only imagine how much fun it is to drive a ZL1👍

[@Davidzl1one]

Nice little Easter egg, when seated with the seatbelt fastened, pull it all out till the end and let it go, the belt fastens in place and keeps you locked in to the seat secured. I come from a 2017 2SS into a 2017 zl1 I’m a blue collar guy and love what these American manufacturers did at the end with the v8’s they are truly fast cars that demand respect with the pedals, enjoy and great review 🙏🏻

[@autofanaticcars]

Interesting il try that, can you confirm that the front fenders are wider than a standard ZL1 not sure if the aero is tricking my eyes but they look subtly wider

[@Davidzl1one]

@@autofanaticcars can’t confirm nor deny I have seen a difference from my old 2017 2SS to my 2017 zl1 in fender width, but don’t know for sure, also checkout “transportation mode” on KZbin for the 6gens nice little feature for the long garage slumbers these cars may have during winter months sweet little feature, sign up to camaro6 forums for more information and topics to participate in, and welcome to the Camaro family! It’s a great car! Enjoy!

[@bebecksingh1078]

@@autofanaticcarsyes, they are wider than a standard zl1

[@autofanaticcars]

thanks for confirming the front fenders being wider kinda similar to the GT350R

[@The_Drive_Inside]

@@autofanaticcarsthey are wider than the SS1LE all ZL1s have the same front ends part number for part number…I took my bumper cover off and there was markers for me to cut and install my canards.

[@FastLane-Grip]

I am Mustang guy. This Camaro looks great. Not a fan of the dive planes though. Would love to drive one.

[@popeyepanther4519]

Thanks for the comprehensive review.

[@datdudeinred]

Great review & especially the intricate detailed comparison between this & gt350r

[@autofanaticcars]

Glad you liked it!

[@vladgodoroja8889]

Very detailed and great review, wish you the best.

[@autofanaticcars]

Much appreciated!

[@VTheGuerrilla]

Phil i love your channel keep up the awesome work!

[@autofanaticcars]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@SvenTravis24]

I have this same exact spec 2023 and absolutely love it!

[@autofanaticcars]

awesome

[@danieldickerson4838]

This will definitely be a legendary/highly sought after collector’s Camaro in the next 10 years or so. Hell, it already is with the amount of numbers and lap times it has put down since 2018. It’s no wonder why the last Camaro ever built (for now I guess), was a manual ZL1 1LE. These things are gonna be worth so much one day, I think. Having this monster next to a 5th gen Z/28 is true garage goals for me!

[@autofanaticcars]

I hope these and the other cars like the Shelby and Hellcats become highly collectible one day soon. There so much fun!

[@marcoortega9594]

I think you hit the nail on the head. Before I got my 22 ZL1 new, I was looking for a 2015 Z28 and it was a $20k difference in the matter of 3 years of shopping between then and now. Almost wish I would have got the low miles, 1 owner 7.0L 😅

[@whereisthedollar]

Lot #1295.1 2024 CHEVROLET CAMARO ZL1 $236,500.00 Barret Jackson Collector's Edition #22@@autofanaticcars

[@autofanaticcars]

yeah the values of those Z28 was crazy then they hit rock bottom in the 40k range now they are trading in the high 70-95k at these auctions and several have sold recently at Mecum Kissimee

[@cardo1111]

First vid I've seen on your channel, nice to see you closing in on a well-deserved 100,000 subs including this new one. Excellent technical review, loved the talk about the aluminum strut towers and the shortcomings of this particular Brembo set-up. I live on the other side of the river, the roads here do suck especially since that last reasonable snowstorm, so many potholes that need attention. Looks like they're finally starting to fill some of them. All the best, enjoy that stable 👍🏽

[@autofanaticcars]

Thanks for stopping by lots of cool cars in the channel and check my IG feed for daily content of what im working on. A new Nissan GTR T Spec landed earlier its really cool

[@SouzaKid]

Thank you for this video! Great review of the ZLE, and I appreciate your comparison of the car to the gt350/350R

[@autofanaticcars]

Thanks for watching there both very special cars regardless owning one of the other or both is a privilege 👍

[@Shawnsanchez77]

The ZL1 1LE is a pure track car. Not to be confused with the 1LE package on a 2SS like mine with every creature comfort imaginable.

[@workingbettertogether4882]

Great video!!!

[@autofanaticcars]

Thanks for the visit

[@joeg9810]

Good review as always. Still have my GT350 and when I changed the tires to Pirelli and added the Steeda stiffeners it was a game changer.

[@autofanaticcars]

GT350 are still awesome I definitely miss mine i might buy another one day to keep forever

[@SteveCaps-pj9xz]

Such an awesome car.😎. Congratulations.

[@autofanaticcars]

It really is!

[@leonenriquegordoa]

You got a perfect color combination in and outside 👏👏👏

[@ady007pl]

Nah the perfect combination is Hyper Blue paint, black wheels + black interior

[@scottbarker9058]

i really enjoy yurr video-s!!!!!! ..like the HAND-MOTIONS!!!....lol

[@popeyepanther4519]

Every competent driver has the Cop-radar on full strength!

[@danlombardi1797]

Awesome review! I have a CTSV wagon (automatic) and I’m researching its future replacement (I wish I could keep it but…). The ZL1 with a manual seems to be the one (or a CT5V Blackwing) for me. I can also clearly see your video shows the 1LE ride is smoother with the tires you swapped out. Videos with the OE tires show the 1LE is bouncing around like crazy. I have Lyme and now arthritis in my spine but this speed freak isn’t sacrificing my fast cars just yet. Thanks man!

[@autofanaticcars]

I had 3 CTSV the biggest issue with those was the sub par automatic the V2 with the Tremec was awesome similar to the new CT5 Blackwings but the new model is so much bigger and heavier. You should consider a ZL1 with magneride

[@bjjbrawler1]

Head on it looks like a black Godzilla! Amazing lines, I love it.

[@autofanaticcars]

Exactly this car is so intimidating especially in black. I saw a 5.th gen today and it actually looks old in comparison i never thought i would feel that way but there so different

[@joesmithatridecorp9011]

I love the Camaro 1le! I bought a 2021 SS 1le 2ss new of showroom floor in travers city. I broke it in right but was just not satisfied with the power the engine was making, decent but not big smile good. I put a ATI P1X procharger, stage 2 on it and had it dyno tuned at Vector motorsports.... Leveld uP to Big grin and now has true pucker factor! ❤ it. Not a ZL1 but Its mine 😊

[@NicholasZak]

Great review! Drove my students ZL1 1LE at Watkins Glen 2 years ago while he sat passenger, he wanted to see what it can do. Well the car is great out of the box, so great i was running 2:05's and running it 8/10's with him in the car. if it was my car 10/10ths.... its a Sub 2 min car at the Glen without a doubt. I loved every min of it, but i did feel the weight as i pushed it.

[@autofanaticcars]

it is a serious machine I do wish they spent more time reducing weight at least 200lbs or so but it boogies and needs a track to really extract what this machine can do on our roads it is almost deadly to wreck or get arrested but I am still getting used to it.

[@Sandro1le]

It's an incredible shame GM heavily restricted the Camaro programs R&D budget, the former Camaro chief engineer Al Oppenheiser stated in an interview that he believed the ZL1 1LE had potential for a sub 7 minute Nürburgring time. I guess we'll never know...@@autofanaticcars

[@Sal.J77]

I love the review. I sold my Challenger Hellcat which i loved for a brand new 2022 ZL1 1LE. No comparison when it comes to overal performance. The Hellcat is way more comfortable but the ZLE is on a whole other level when it comes to performance. Totally underrated car. I am thankful i was able to get one before they were discontinued.

[@autofanaticcars]

The Hellcat are awesome as well but you could only do so many burnouts and straight line launches where as the ZL you can carve backroads and its stiff as hell. Il have more drive videos soon once our weather warms up it’s sketchy to drive still

[@williamglaser1364]

As a Gt350 owner I would love to compare the Camaro. Not enough highway to push these cars. Love the show. Go Muscle!

[@autofanaticcars]

The GT350 far more usable and dramatic on the streets you need an air strip or race track to really extract this ZL1 but it’s still a riot on the streets

[@209jjones]

2019 LT1 im Putting into my 72 Z28. Thats about as ZL1 as im Gonna get. Ooutstanding car...... CONGRATS

[@autofanaticcars]

Im itching to build myself a new resto mod soon let’s see but im itching for a full Roadster Shop chassis LT4 tremec set up. Considering a Bandit tribute or another fastback stang

[@AllIsWell_22]

One idea is for you to swap out the DSSV coils for Fortune Auto 510s. This is considering you are not tracking the car. The FA dampers are way better for the roads where you are. Keep the DSSV in storage as a backup IF you ever sell the car.

[@northener99]

Thank you for this review and comparison. Love your content. I used to have a regular ZL1 10 Speed, tuned on E to 620 WHP with a Borla S Type exhaust (perfect tone IMO), sold it and now cross shopping the GT350, Quadrifoglio and the ZL1/ZLE. Have driven them all, but only had 10 mins seat time in the gt350. My focus is getting the most thrilling car out of the three but I'm conflicted. Since you're one of the few people that have owned all three, which would you go for if you we're in my position?

[@autofanaticcars]

Depends on price your willing to spend but the three are all awesome the QV is best as a daily i feel because of the automatic and dual personality it has. I still will say no other modern car will give you what a Shelby GT350 can. But you have to want and like the noise, vibrations and tram line etc. there are several GT350 on the market and Alfa but only 2 ZL1 1LE and there 50 k over sticker. Let me know what you decide but since you already owned a ZL1 I say go for a Shelby GT350R you won’t be disappointed in the drive every single moment you spend behind the wheel

[@northener99]

​@@autofanaticcarsReally appreciate your swift feedback. My wife would kill me if I asked her advice again lol. I think the GT350 is where my heart is at. I love the dual personality of the QV, but I just don't know if it will thrill me long term. I rented one on Turo for a couple of days and did some mountain driving in the QV. Such a fun car. I've never been one to let practicality rule me but having a 2 year old has changed that (a bit). Still we have a Tesla as a daily so no worries there. But for a fun family weekend trip car, spirited driving with some friends in the mountains, car meets, I think GT350 will tick most of my boxes. Thanks for letting me rant haha. I'll let you know what I decide and thanks again. Looking forward to your next video.

[@rooneyw2208]

You pretty much hit the point on why I haven't upgraded to a ZLE from my ss 1le, ZLE way too much car for the road. Maybe I would consider it if I had another daily- GM has a specified track alignment for the 1LE which I highly recommend: tire life will go down of course if you are only driving it on the road. Got it a few months ago and on the way home from the shop had a small round about, front end grip was insane and then it was a bit wet so had the rear step out a bit: most fun I had all week.

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah I totally get it these cars with this much power are very hard to safely enjoy on public roads or youll end up in jail quick. Such a killer car I can’t wait till Spring to take it on my favorite roads to really push it

[@rooneyw2208]

@@autofanaticcars you're going to love it. Those PTM modes are magic, you can just floor it corner exit and it finds grip.

[@weepinglotus1]

It’s def not too much car for the road. But to daily it everyday would get old. Unfortunately they are high on the list for theft. This is the only reason I don’t drive it and leave it sit in certain locations.

[@marcoortega9594]

@@weepinglotus1well all you need to avoid it being stolen is buy the Tremec.

[@TheMontoya09]

Look at the drastic changes they did in corvettes I sense a possible rear engine Camaro with Electric powered front wheels that is track ready

[@whitegoodman7465]

You should do a how-to video on how to drive manual!

[@weepinglotus1]

Great review. I am fortunate to have a ZL1 1LE M6 in my garage. The styling and engineering that went into this Camaro is perfect. It checks all of the boxes, beautiful to look at if it just sits in the garage, perfect for the driving enthusiast, perfect for someone who wants a factory race car to get some laps in, perfect for car shows. No matter what you decide to do with this car just enjoy every minute of it! One of my favorite parts is the rev match downshifting, it sounds awesome. The power is good but nothing too extreme (I’ve had 900whp corvettes and that is what I consider overpowered).

[@autofanaticcars]

awesome the car on cold damp roads like I did this video is really sketchy but come spring I can take a proper drive. For some reason when the traction breaks it kicks the rear to the left and then a split second later the E diff corrects this I wonder if the modes can be adjusted so it reacts quicker to make both wheels lock up more consistantly if anyone here knows?

[@davidbaron6647]

OMG BAD DAMN ASS!!!!! R.I.P. Camaro Damn it Chevy

[@GOOGLM3_NY]

Heads, cam, ported blower, overdive pulley, Nick Williams 105mm throttle body, a fuel system for full E85 and you have yourself a monster!

[@autofanaticcars]

We built one in spring 2020 with 1200hp Whipple, cam, headers heads etc i never had a chance to drive it with all 2020 drama but it was unbearable loud and definitely not street legal with the new laws no idea if guy still owns it

[@GOOGLM3_NY]

@@autofanaticcars NYS sucks. For real. But they do get very loud having no turbo to act as a muffler.

[@scottbarker9058]

i respect urr videos!!!!got rid of my 16 gt-350..n got a 18 grand sport with the automatic...nice car but..tradded it in 4 my 19 zo6..manuel transm..lov this car!!!lot more low end..ussable that is than a gt-350!!!!....lots better fit n finish-etc.nice coverage..1-question..what if this car had the zo7 pakage..with carbon ceramic brakes???

[@autofanaticcars]

Chevy never offered the carbon brakes on the 6th Camaro i wish they did like the 14-15 Z28 had

[@CarsUncovered]

Owned a 350R, haven't been in a 1LE. Intrigues me, but I love the raw visceral feeling cars. I have a feeling I'd prefer the R, but you can't deny this is one seriously badass machine. A 1LE and R would be an insane garage.

[@autofanaticcars]

That guy Joe Raiti who reviews cars on KZbin not only has a GT350R Heritage, a ZL1 1LE and he just got a final edition Hellcat Jailbreak with a manual now that is one killer garage

[@CarsUncovered]

​@@autofanaticcarsthe holy "attainable" trinity lol

[@bill5935]

Hey. I have been following you since 2016 when I got a Shelby GT 350. I bought a ZL1 this summer and I live here on Long Island. My question is where do you go to have your tires mounted and balanced and do you have any recommendations on a tire shop here on the Island.

[@autofanaticcars]

We have two specialty shops locally we use i do not know anyone on the Island to recommend

[@mikes8815]

I owned a 2020 GT350R. Sold it and picked up a 2019 Z06 7speed manual. I was considering this car also. Now I’m considering a gt500 cftp lol 😆

[@autofanaticcars]

Seems like your like me and love horsepower. All awesome cars and each one is a blast to drive. I wish Ford put a 6sp in the GT500 thats where the ZL1 has upper hand in fun factor

[@mikes8815]

I do miss the 350R. I had the dreaded shifter rattle. Tried everything, even your fix. Nothing helped. I just couldn’t drive it with the rattle.

[@superlite177]

Well done pod cast….

[@Ba5iK]

Good morning sir, came across your channel when i was in the market for a zl1 1le the past couple months. Ended up passing on a couple. Just want something a bit more special. Long story short- looking at a AMG GT R. Curious what your thoughts are on 2 different cars with similar approaches.

[@autofanaticcars]

The AMG GTR is rare and extremely special with much higher quality being hand made and engineering than the Camaro. Both very different cars but nothing can touch the AMG GTR experience the day i test drove mine i bought it on the spot and traded my Shelby GT350R towards it without hesitation thats how good it is.

[@cryptonator1988]

You didnt mention or show case the no lift shift and speak more about that and how it works and why its bad ass.. amazing car great content this is my dream car but unfortunately by the time im able to afford it they will he gone.. i would get a 2024 2ss but again i might not be able to get one. I can get one now but i dont feel like paying 800-1200$ a month car payment lol..

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah the no lift shift is neat I never tried that on one of these or an GM car for that fact. Spring time i will on an open stretch of road

[@scottbarker9058]

thanks man!!!!...as 4 the #-s made.....it will prob. cosy you...on my 19 z06 manuel..1lz...sebring orang......i ordered the corvette blak-book...from the corvette museum....gave me all the #-s i pretty much wanted 2 know on me corvette....there is im sure an equivalant one or something close 4 the camaro...i even called in 2 ford racing-perf..n they for a price sent me the#-s on the 16 gt-350 i once had.that beeing said..if u try hard enough im sure u can find the #-s uud like 2 have on yur camaro...goood luk.....may the lord jesus be with you man!!!

[@raptor2126]

This looks like a good package but nothing makes this special. I love the raw and visceral feel of the GT350R, revving that up to 8500 rpm is a theatrical experience, love the steering feel as well, I am definitely keeping that car!

[@autofanaticcars]

GT350 is quite different and incredible in many ways I do miss mine and have been looking to pick up another one soon, the ZL1 is a better chassis and much more developed platform but equally as awesome to drive and enjoy. This is the last chance to ever experience cars like this considering how grim the future looks because of politics and regulations ruining it.

[@maciejswiercz9737]

Yeah , looks like the rav4 and the crv wanted a piece of that !!!

[@gopherit4952]

I'm a 350r owner and the zl1 1le maybe the best buy under 80k. One will be sitting by my R soon

[@autofanaticcars]

Yeah biggest issue is finding one now for sale i don’t think they made many as compared to the 350R production

[@norwegianblue2017]

People don't understand how capable this car is around a track. In 2017 it did a faster lap time around the Nurburgring than a 2022 Porsche Cayman GT4 RS, 2022 BMW M4 CSL, and a 2017 Porsche 911 Turbo S. Unbelievable bang for the buck!

[@autofanaticcars]

Impressive car for sure i love it

[@DippinItUp1]

How has the visibility been living with the camaro? That would be my only concern coming from a S550 which has pretty good visibility.

[@autofanaticcars]

You get used to it quickly it’s not bad at all and i can see better out back windows than my prior Shelby GT350R because in that car the wing blocks entire back window

[@mistamaog]

I feel like I never appreciated the Camaro as much as I should've. My mustang fandom didn't let me, until i started learning about the chassis of these cars. Now I feel like they're really underrated. Also I find it funny how good infotainment still has the plastic film over it 😂.

[@autofanaticcars]

I feel there are so many awesome things about all these cars from Ford Chevy and Dodge. They will never make cars like this ever again.

[@comicrandomness3289]

A lot of good cars will be gone. Camaro, challenger and charger.

[@godzilla7391]

I wanted a SS ZL1 so bad, but I had Elantra N money. 😆

[@kam5333]

I got a Panther and not gonna lie, seeing what they sell for at auctions ALMOST makes me want to sell it. But then the problem is how will I get another one

[@chandlerreyes53]

I love my 1:10 scale zl1. Wish I can afford the toy model😅

[@skyforcereloaded6499]

Is this good as a daily? I've saved up 20k as a downpayment so I can get one but originally wanted an RCF or the LC500.

[@autofanaticcars]

Too rough to drive daily get a regular ZL1 instead

[@skyforcereloaded6499]

@@autofanaticcars Thank you for the feedack.

[@joehenry9546]

I really want to get this car

[@autofanaticcars]

Very few for sale it’s quite rare compared to the Shelby and Dodge

[@joehenry9546]

@@autofanaticcars , I know. I’ve been looking. Probably won’t happen. I can’t even find a 2SS manual.

[@SkunkworksCamaro]

How much did changing the tires improve the ride quality?

[@autofanaticcars]

Significantly

[@SkunkworksCamaro]

@@autofanaticcars well I enjoyed the video thanks for the quick response. I was crazy enough to buy one of these without having a track near me. I can get over the suspension and most of the time it doesn’t bother me. But if I could make the ride just a lil better I would like to. So definitely will be getting some ps4’s for her. It’s a beast of a car but very difficult to find the right time and place to push it on the street

[@SkunkworksCamaro]

@@autofanaticcars I was doing exactly the speed limit on the interstate yesterday and the damn car got airborne hitting a bump over a bridge I shit you not

[@autofanaticcars]

your absolutely right the weather is still too cold in NY to really take any of these cars out and fully enjoy hopefully next month I will get a chance to hit some backroads. Another issue is the power this thing makes where as taking a GT350R and enjoying full revs and the gearing is easy on backroads but the Zl1 is very hard to even get out of 2nd gear on most backroads. It is ideally suited for a large professional rack track I can now see, street usability is limited for fun/ The suspension can be very harsh on bad road for sure but on the highway and smooth back roads it feels perfect

[@user-fc6lg7zx8y]

I bought a 2017 Zl1 first year of the 6th gen, i bought in 2020 for $50.500.00 with only 13000 on the odometer, it was stolen on sept 12th 2023 over 3 years later, i only owed $27.000 insurance valued it at $61.000 with 32000 on the odometer and payed me out $32.000. Hoping to get another one this summer but now its a sellers market for these cars, but im determined.

[@MrNysmoke25]

That blows it got stolen if u want new go to chevy site build and turn your radius it will show every zl1 for sale I checked like a month ago for no reason and I did not find many

[@nman7044]

When that money tree finally blossoms it’s a ZL1 for me!!!! I Don’t need the 1LE package though. The thing is if I am going to drop nearly $100k on a ZL1….it might have to be the 4th Gen ZL1…. You think 650HP is fun….take a glimpse back to 2002 and having 600HP out of a C5R 427 under the hood!!!!! yeeehaaaawww. No but honestly these 6 gens are so amazing and the best bang for the buck in my opinion. I’ll just keep staring at my 00 SS stroked LS6 and keep wishing I put a bigger motor in when I was younger and had the time and the cash to do so. 😅 so until then…amazing car keep it sticky side down!!!

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

I always thought a manual convertible ZL1 1LE would be an amazing car to own. These cars will definitely being increasing in value. It’s way more car than a S550.

[@jimbradd2783]

I don't think they ever made a zl1 1le in a convertible?

[@kdjunkins]

No convertible 1LEs made

[@kiranherman5668]

If I wasn’t a Ford guy and the 350R didn’t exist, i would’ve probably gotten that Camaro in a heartbeat.

[@FrankGalioto]

I’ve always been ford guy, ordered performance package dark horse last August , and still nothing dealer said they’re not producing performance package right now but doesn’t have any idea when they will. Found a 22 ZL1 6spd convertible, had to jump on it

[@Gdimina]

Ok so i love my modified 800hp ZL1 1LE but i owned a 21 GT500 for About 2 years and IMO the GT500 handled better. I felt more confident hitting corners at higher speeds in the GT500 and Stock it felt faster than the modified ZL1 1LE but that’s just a butt dyno so I’m sure it just felt like that. Stock for stock GT500 definitely a good amount faster but one has to account for the 7 speed DCT vs a 6 speed manual which I believe is the big difference maker when it comes to speed or power difference. As far as the handles i only can go by street handles on secluded roads where to me the GT500 handles better and feels more grounded and sticky whereas the ZL1 1LE feels more loose in the rear which gives me less confidence which is why i say GT500 handles better. I will say the front suspension feels more direct in the ZL1 so i can see why some may feel like the ZL1 1LE handles better like this guy is saying. Both are incredible cars and mine will soon be a full blown Exorcist version making roughly 1000hp when it’s finished in a couple of weeks. Most of work we did so just now adding the Gen 5 3 liter whipple, bigger heat exchanger, Mcleod 1200 rxt clutch added to all the other work that we already had done to make it an exorcist build. Texas speed stage 3 Cam, AR LT headers, built and ported heads, forged internals, main studs, auxiliary pump, Rotofab intake, Corsa extreme, and more. Now getting the whipple, bigger TB, Injectors, Heat exchanger, clutch etc…. When she is done I compare it to my modified 426 hellcat Magnuson 2650 Challenger E-85 1200hp and to the GT500 based off memory of how the Shelby drove.

[@autofanaticcars]

I honestly feel the S550 platform for the Mustang GT500 does feel more confident and grip out back however the earlier 16-19 GT350R front ends feel more lively and twitchy like a track car which I prefer where as the ZL1 1LE front is very balanced and neutral, the Zl1 front end does feel better than the 2020-22 GT500 because Ford revised the front geometry to make it easier to live with but it really numbed it down a bit compared to the earlier GT350 models. The DCT is way faster than any human can shift but I do prefer shifting for more fun and the Gt500 is a bit heavier but has different gearing and more power to feel faster for sure. two very different cars both are awesome

[@jimmycocks]

Interesting take. Appreciate your insight- you know your shit , I pay attention to what you say and have been folllowing for a long time. Considered one- my only gripe is the weight and the suspension. I don’t live far from you so I have similar conditions. Look forward to your ownership notes. End of the day that engine is the business. Enjoy

[@autofanaticcars]

It’s definitely a cool fun car but as I mentioned impossible to find now to buy. This car requires skill and big balls to push i can tell. You might hate ride it’s extremely stiff and bumpy on bad roads

[@jimmycocks]

@@autofanaticcars yeah. Halfway through your video I was searching and I agree. Unobtainable-Funny. Maybe unrelated but maybe not- I had a line, cheap,on a 14? Leftover Z/28. Forget but like 50 grand, Passed. Decent engine/ chassis/ not bad but no where near the power. Agree on the balls. Buddy has a c7 Z06- dude I smacked it 2,3 half of 4 on the Merritt you could imagine. Not like the old days or maybe I’m just getting old. enjoy man.

[@failingup4907]

I thought about getting a ZL1, but i feel like i would be down grading from my C7 Corvette.

[@autofanaticcars]

completely two different cars

[@jasperatighe5967]

How is this compared to the C8. Power, performance, handling etc....

[@autofanaticcars]

Two completely different cars but the ZL1 1LE is far more fun and engaging than a C8 because of the manual transmission, race car stiff suspension and raw power its a crazy fun car whereas the C8 get kinda boring quickly with dual clutch and plush ride

[@jasperatighe5967]

Thank you. It's a shame they've terminated production

[@joewhite9459]

The awesome thing Chevy did was put the most muscular muscle car rims on the cheaper SS 1LE I'm so happy about that because my SS looks so much nicer than any ZL1, rims make a car and to be honest that was the first thing I noticed when I saw the SS's roll out the difference from the non 1LE to the 1LE what a difference thank you Chevy for allowing me to get a more badass looking car for less money I really appreciate that.

[@robertshetsen8691]

What about ss 1le

[@Antimatter.]

I have to say it’s a beautiful car but what the hell was GM thinking putting the heating and cooling vents in front of the gear shifter 🤷🏻‍♂️Your hand will burn in the winter and freeze in the summer 😂🤣

[@AllIsWell_22]

You forgot a keep point which is reliability compared to the GT350/R. You can hoon the LT4 without worrying about the Voodoo motor shaking itself to death or imploding. Ford didn’t do a good enough job removing the vibration from that flat plane crank V8.

[@autofanaticcars]

I never had issues with mine but Ford updated the block and oiling passages in 19 models. The sound and vibration of the Voodoo is incredible and unique still we will never see that rver again in cars

[@johnmcdonald6834]

Did you mean to say the fronts are 305?

[@autofanaticcars]

i did say the fronts are 305 rears 325

[@AllIsWell_22]

I noticed you said the back end wasn’t as hooked up as the S550. I beg to disagree having driven every iteration of that platform. You have to dial in negative camber in the ZLE with 0 Toe Front and 0.05 Toe In Rear. Different car completely at that point and it’s ready to pounce like a bat out of hell! The rear subframe has no rubber bushings, it’s hard mounted to the chassis for one reason - transmit/communicate what the rear end does to the driver and hook up! You also need to soften up the rear swaybar. It will help settle the car better on backroads. Here’s a link on how to do it - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH2sZ62knLmqqq8si=gKn6zK2rksW32i1f

[@autofanaticcars]

Once weather warms up id like to rotate front to get that crazy camber gain and see where alignment is. This car is as delivered so not sure on how they set the geometry. Rear bar set in middle for now. How much rear Camber can the stock rear arms offer?

[@AllIsWell_22]

@@autofanaticcars The stock rear arms can give up to -2 camber in the rear. Highly suggest installing the SPL Toe arms. It removes the eccentric with a lockout. That assures your toe will not be out of spec for hard driving.

[@autofanaticcars]

on my 5th Gen I did a bunch of Spohn and BMR parts for the entire rear suspension but the rest of the car was rubbish with issues always breaking driveline parts on a regular.

[@AllIsWell_22]

@@autofanaticcars In the interim, definitely get the Katech Ported Throttle body. Your throttle will be much sharper with no hesitation or bogging.

[@pickygarage]

I agree with you the 350r is better in every way. Great review !

[@autofanaticcars]

they are so different both cars but the Shelby GT350R definitely is more involved with all your senses to drive which makes it really special for a production based car. I wish driving the GT350R wasn't so painful for my lower back I would have never sold it but that was the main reason as I was never driving it due to severe pain afterwards. the ZL1 for me does offer a better seating and driving position

[@pickygarage]

have you looked into BPC 157? I would highly recommend checking it out or even stem cells for back pain. they work wonders on repairing the body and decreasing inflammation @@autofanaticcars

[@AllIsWell_22]

Absolutely love this car/platform. Can’t wait to see all the OEM+ mods you will do to this car. Nurburgring legend! Here’s the video (if you haven’t seen it already. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Dbo3SDeL6fedEsi=qCuVbBd_-D5r_IfB

[@autofanaticcars]

Watched those videos that driver has balls of steel to flat out run the Nurburgring with this car but the numbers were impressive

[@1lepandaboyy766]

Better ar ever made. Sexy, powerful and exotic 😍

[@df2403]

Great review but you drive it slower than a Prius lol😂

[@autofanaticcars]

Was too cold out not going to be reckless with this expensive rare car il be doing a new drive video soon now that we are in summer

[@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028]

ZL11LE is a monster Ford Mustang GT350R or GT500 is trash plus Fordperfomance I have ZL11LE M6 and ZL11LE10L90 10 Speed is very fast Chevroletperfomance team Stil Champion.

[@trexzee4351]

i got to work hard and get this car by the time i turn 19

[@autofanaticcars]

If you could even find one for sale these are extremely rare

[@gopherit4952]

save your $ start a business

[@EnthusiastsGarage]

This is more comparable to a GT500 CFTP over a GT350R

[@autofanaticcars]

GT500 is not a manual transmission and priced significantly higher than the Zl1 that’s why the 350R was comparable as both models are lighter track versions those GT500 are just too heavy ticking well over 4000lbs which is why you destroy tires and brakes in one afternoon at the track

[@antikytheramechanism7909]

Car makers are saving tons of money replacing good leather with super cheap plastic fabric on the seats. I might have gotten over that and bought one, I was tempted, but the interior just has more lines and nonsense going on in every direction and a surround on the display that looks like giant lips or something. Just a weird interior. Dig the exterior though.

[@autofanaticcars]

Once you spend time in it you overlook most weird aspects unfortunately all American car’s interior are still not up to the European brands

[@golden5522]

I just can't believe how Camaro go from this design to that Ugly looking new Gen design.

[@user-iq9mn6lj6b]

I eat these things up for breakfast, lunch and dinner in my stock 2020 GT500 carbon fiber pack!!! Around 8?PM I shit them out!!! 😂😂. raced a few with modifications, and they still come up short!!!! For the money, the GT500 is king of the road!! The Camaro ZL1 is a hell of a car - just dated now. If it wouldn’t be for greedy dealerships, I strongly believe their sales would have tripled or quadrupled and they wouldn’t have to discontinue the model. Adios Camaro.

[@autofanaticcars]

Your talking straight line maybe because your car is hundreds of pounds heavier and ZL1 will destroy it on a road course and challenging back roads plus its a proper 6speed there both completely different cars for different tasks. Ford should have offered a manual in the GT500 and platform is far more advanced in engineering to S550 is

[@user-iq9mn6lj6b]

@@autofanaticcars I don’t know about destroy lol, but much more competitive. Straight line forget about it.

[@user-iq9mn6lj6b]

@@autofanaticcars 2024 ZL1 weighs 4120 lbs. 2022 ford gt500 with track pack 4133 lbs. 4183 without the track pack. Not much of a difference.

[@autofanaticcars]

those numbers are not accurate the ZL1 1LE is about 3860 and the GT500 close to 4300 and it all depends on the driver as well

[@user-iq9mn6lj6b]

@@autofanaticcars then I guess the manufacturers are lying to us on vehicle weight. Check their websites. Those numbers came right out of the manufacturers website. I guess they’re lying to us just like Biden.

[@LeviHeatonIII]

Riding with your hand on the shift knob, like you do, burns out the clutch..

[@JohnJohn-lt7mu]

It would take years for any damage to materialize, nonetheless it is a bad habit

[@kdjunkins]

It’s the synchros that will wear out fast with a hand staying on the shifter

[@jeremychurchill933]

Those cars will be back, EVs are collapsing

[@itsdmax6174]

intro too hard

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

I’d still stick with my Daytona 392! 😁👍🏻

[@autofanaticcars]

Those are cool too

[@tundrawhisperer4821]

@@autofanaticcars I do like all these modern muscle cars though! My Daytona 392 is dear to my heart. My father had just purchased it new and then shortly past away. He built muscle cars. I couldn’t let it go, so I bought it from his estate. It’s done in the Yellow Jacket Mopar color with the exclusive limited trim line of the Daytona. 1 of 73 built that year. Just sweet looking color scheme and one fun car to cruise in!

[@didiermejia780]

It's ok, not everyone can drive big boy cars. Especially manual cars.😂

[@yooo711]

The back seats are useless

[@autofanaticcars]

completely but it might have been an insurance regulation decision but does not make sense since Ford ditched the rear seats in the Boss 302 and GT350R

[@tyg1434]

That dashed is horrible. No effort