2023 Canyon Endurace - The Road Bike We SHOULD All Be Riding?

[@roadcc]

What do you think of the new bike? And in particular THAT top tube storage!

[@michaelmappin4425]

Gimmicks like frame storage and integrated electronics push me away from a bike. How can a door hole in the top tube be as strong as a solid top tube?

[@Jaime-vf6eu]

Cracker review. Definitely one of the most interesting I've seen in some time, not just the usual "oh this is the best thing since sliced bread you should definitely buy one". Kudos.

[@madyogi6164]

If I had that money and needed a new one, sure would be on my bucket list. At least the frame alone.

[@grahamroot4521]

Would have really considered one but the weight has gone up dramatically compared to the previous version, can’t really see why!

[@kidAG]

That top tube condom space is clearly a reason NOT to buy it.

[@runnerdan785]

This is one of the greatest videos you lot have done! The presenter is hilarious and I love the random outtakes! Love the bike but the Top Tube storage is a bit odd? Prefer a basket on the front! Colour is nice though!

[@crailwah]

Something about the fit with a lot of the videos about the canyon endurance juts looks really weird . But would still love to ride one

[@ayadi2671]

The presenter’s style is brilliant. Entertaining yes informative. Keep it up 👏

[@farukcetinkaya1019]

The new CFR endurance model is 500 g heavier than the old CF SLX model. They even have the same components.

[@josephzimmermann]

I'm happy to see that Canyon has made improvements to the Endurace bike., I bought a 2022 Endurace CFX DI2 Dura-Ace and was quite disappointed overall with the purchase. On the positive side, the bike was well equipped for the price - Dura-Ace 12-speed Di2 with Rotor cranks/power meter and excellent DT Swiss wheelset for a relatively, in terms of 2022, price. On the negative side, the bike , while giving up some performance features vs the Ultimate in geometry and wheel specs is not really comfortable as advertised, hence no gains in true endurance rides over 120km in my experience I wanted a bike with modern technology to replace my 2008 Cervelo R3 and thought I had found it in the 2022 Endurace but was sadly disappointed. The old Cervelo remains noticably more comfortable with virtually identical performance read-outs as measured by results in average speed, power, etc over similar 120+km rides. Perhaps the new seat-tube and other geometrical improvements in the 2023 version will have remedied these issues.

[@cpac54]

I was excited to see a bike with a shorter reach and more upright geometry, but they lost me at the top tube storage thing - I can't even imagine how that must be on a long ride in the rain...

[@roadcc]

We'll let you know in our full review!

[@boscoboys]

I am not new to the channel but for some reason I thought it was MVDP presenting a Canyon video here (look alike alert?). Great video as always.

[@duffyrides]

Really like this bike. Great second bike to have for those rides on the roads less travelled while still being more than fast enough.

[@michalmaly7794]

They should add colours. I wish they brought back the green!

[@mikeburton8426]

It looks really nice but does an endurance bike really need the integrated front end? That storage thingy looks ideal for carrying… twizzlers.

[@frankind815]

Never rode a canyon. Would love to try one.

[@malcolmanderson9678]

Thanks for the comprehensive review! Thoughts on the CF-7 vs the more premium models with integrated bars etc? I'm considering the endurace for as my first road specific bike.

[@matlindell5022]

These handlebars are freaking frightening 🥶🥴

[@vanivari359]

As multiple people wrote something similar, i'm curious - why are the frightening? Because you can "unscrew" them?

[@socopower]

The tube storage is ugly and not much of a saving compared to say the down tube. The video is brilliant though 😂

[@dperreno]

I like it a lot. Except for the bottom bracket. Press fit? Really? Just go with T-47 already!

[@davemoss6976]

I'm retired with a good pensin, I got one of these immediately when I heard the claims, but the 18 yr old in the club is stll faster on his 10 year old none aero bike. Can I get my money back?

[@GarethSargeant-op9zf]

That must be the same 18yr old who is in my club....

[@milosjansa-vs3zc]

great video, love the small jokes between the talk ;-)

[@theatomic430]

$8,999 USA. Bike we should all be riding? C'mon now...

[@andrewhayes7055]

It's reasonably light but it should be for £9k what does the cheaper real world version weigh?

[@tonyg3091]

The CF SLX is sub 8 kg (7.7something) which makes it both lighter and half the price of Roubaix and Domane

[@underoathuea]

the top tube piece is the most Canyon thing I've ever seen.

[@jenspetersimonsen4235]

So, how about one of these at entry level? 3-3,5k for the 'cheapest' specimen is still quite a handout for a rec cyclist about to get started 😕

[@roadcc]

Indeed it is, in fact it was part of the inspiration to write this article: road.cc/content/feature/rising-price-entry-level-road-bikes-303057

[@albux]

The cheapest specimen from the Endurace range with aluminum frame and rim brakes is 1,35k

[@klaxxon__]

Is it just me or does the hidden tool kit do a really crap job replacing an actual multitool and a saddle bag? I still wouldn't go out without a chain tool, a spare tire (or at least a puncture repair kit), and those levers look nightmarish to use (I have difficulty seating my tire even with proper long parktool levers...). I don't get the purpose of the hidden kit, seems like a waste of space.

[@Gianniz27]

Canyon, bring back the cheaper Endurace CF7 and CF8 modells, for 2-3000 euros, hugely better value, without all the stupid things the new version has, and 2X, 3X, 4X price tag.

[@quintennn]

I really like the idea of this bike. The endurace has always been a cool endurance bike but this generation hits the nail on the head. Bike manufacturers should build more cool looking, fast bikes that don't break people's backs. Of course if you are super flexible, athletic etc go for the through-and-through race bike if you want! But the mere mortals like me, like the looks of bikes like the ultimate, aeroad, sl7 etc etc, but most endurance bikes look super boring, aren't performance focused. So this feels like a step in the right direction for the general public. Next up: endurance aero bikes and more cool endurance bikes overall!

[@roadcc]

We hope the bike industry is listening! Well said!

[@J.R.L.96]

Which helmet are you wearing? Great video! 🙌🏽

[@roadcc]

Cheers! It's a Kask Elemento

[@defaultstate4536]

me riding 30mm front/32mm rear on my 2017 canyon endurace before it was cool? :D

[@mb10kx]

No mudguard mounts for a bike suited for all roads? really a shame indeed. i don't understand why one would need the disc brakes and wide tires if you not riding on bad roads with mud?

[@bikeman123]

All roads in the UK are bad but I avoid the muddy ones and wont be riding a £9k through winter anyway. So wide tyres and disc brakes without mudguards is fine by me.

[@thatguy9051]

That would be Trek Madone...........Thanks.

[@_vinceverano]

Jesus i thought he was Mathieu van der Poel for a second 🤣

[@Rebecca-zr3lu]

Today, I pray for bicycle and equipment safety in Jesus name Amen 🙏

[@DonaldConceicao]

Is that bike white? Looks lime …

[@maumustermann4706]

Whatch out about the terrible after sale service. Especially after 3 years of owning your bike. If yo need a major spare part as a fork, just after this period of time. Canyon will refuse to sell it. Increasing the risk to have to discard your bike if you do not find a proper replacement.

[@oaponanmtb2917]

Has anyone read the negative reviews on Canyon? I'm not just talking about a few nay-sayers. There are hundreds of them and they all have the same problem. No after sales support, no responsibility for damaged/badly packed bikes. I was keen on their rim brake Endurace, but after reading the trust pilot reviews I bailed. Their marketing model is crap.

[@TheSimon701]

Mathieu van der poel is that you??

[@Pranav_m_Mistry]

This geometry is not technically endurance. Especially the lower stack with barely any spacers. No room to dial in a fit.

[@cpac54]

The size small has a stack of 568 and a reach of 375... if that's not endurance, I'd like to know what is in your opinion.

[@Pranav_m_Mistry]

@@cpac54 Hey! So 568 is about 7-15mm. short of an average 54cm frame size. Otherwise,even with a 568mm stack, if the spacers provided were of about 40mm (like trek) would've been helpful. 15mm spacers leaves any room to get a proper bike fit. Even the regular Endurace has 35 mm spacers. 15 mm Makes it more like a race fit. Now that for some might be ok, but not for high inseam riders like myself. And my comment was only specific to the stack. The reach is appropriate.

[@20dpb]

Jamie looks like a discount MVDP 😂😂

[@human-pl7kx]

Why on earth would you need CFR endurance bike!!!! CFR is Canyon factory RACING!!!! And Endurance bike is anything but racing!!!! Cheapest Canyon Aeroad will slaughter this CFR and will cost you twice less!!!!

[@roadcc]

It might “slaughter” it in a wind tunnel but we don’t think fast bikes with geometry that actually suits the general public are in anyway a bad thing. And it is called the EnduRACE after all

[@sleepdeprived9181]

Slaughter in a bike race on flats, but not for ultra-long distance riding and hills.

[@mark_nz]

It will slaughter your lower back that's for sure

[@human-pl7kx]

@@sleepdeprived9181 Longer than Tour de France? I currently own Endurace 2023, I know what i'm talking about. Yes position on Endurace is more upright! But it leads to excessive pressure on your bottom part! Had to buy longer stem. On a new Endurace you have to replace whole cockpit.

[@sleepdeprived9181]

@@human-pl7kx yes, im talking longer than average tour de france course. 200km above. Btw, I also bought an Endurace just this June. Anything with that distance can hurt your bottom no matter how good your saddle or chamois is. I find that the Endurace stock saddle is not very good, even with short-distance rides though. I changed it up to Power with Mirror, and it was all ok. As for needing a longer stem, maybe your bike size is one size smaller? A balanced weight distribution is certainly better. Endurace 2023 has just been released last week. What they sold earlier this year was the 2022 model.

[@savagepro9060]

1:07 uh, the bike please, not your leg

[@keegandewitt]

Not only do they not include the tubes, etc for the top tube sleeve, but they are all sold out with no sign of coming back on the Canyon site. So you get a totally useless condom with no way to purchase the tools that go inside it.

[@TheAndreasstadler]

20 kph Wind in your Face + riding at 25 kph = 45 kph. Possible?

[@mb10kx]

No the effort to ride 25 kph is less even with 20 kph winds in the face

[@larslindstroem3359]

Fährt der english Man ohne Helm😂

[@mpad680]

Nope…

[@REMODA92]

Might just be the BEST road bike for most roads until the next paid bike brand advertorial.

[@Daniel_San1s34]

you rich boy you.....🤣

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

9000 GBP for Chinese carbon push bike 😂😂😂 You can get a 600cc motorbike for that, new 😂

[@DnDMF]

The storage lid and its clip remind me the one on tv remote controls. A lot of remotes out there with sellotape on.

[@aidanmasterson50]

Have a 2019 Endurace and an Aethos S-Works. If I’m being honest the Endurace is faster (on flat) and more comfortable and a fraction of the price. It’s a Super bike. Shame they are increasing the prices though. That ship has sailed in the current market. CFR is not lighter than the outgoing CF-SLX and the CF-SLX aero is not lighter than the outgoing CF-SL. They both might be marginally more Aero over 40kph. 😂 Like most Endurance riders do that. That said they are still cheaper than many similarly spec’d bikes. A joy to ride.

[@auswi]

I bought a CF SLX 9 three months ago (and love it) and nearly had buyer's remorse when I saw this new Endurace. But when I had a deeper look at it, other than the full internal cable routing and top tube storage, I would argue not much has changed. I still have the same DT Swiss ERC 1100 wheels, Dura-Ace groupset (but with Rotor cranks and inspider power meter), that "interesting" seat post, and an aero cockpit. But what I've noticed is that my Endurace was listed as 6.88 kgs. The new ones are heavier and in NZ, $3.5k dearer like for like. Progress maybe... Hmmm...

[@aidanmasterson50]

@@auswi trust me, there will be no bike shops refusing to service or replace your head set bearings, plenty won’t touch the new integrated one. Arguably the aerodynamics of the new model are also played up a bit as the made the bike wider for pseudo gravel clearance. You got a good one for less money. Enjoy!

[@frankind815]

Put a deeper wheel on the aethos It will wake it up I did works great

[@andyg9991]

@@auswi My 2019 Endurace CF-SLX is also sub 7kgs ready to ride (small size) and while I would never say no to it being more aero, probably 5 of those 7 watt saving of the new bike is down to the bars. Hidden brake cables would be nice (I have a SRAM Red equiped bike so no shift cables). As far as 35mm tyres, yawn. Changed out the original 30's when they wore out with 28's and its still a plush enough ride for me while being noticeably more stable in cross winds. This is one bike that won't be moved on. Its definitely a keeper. Shout out from across the ditch mate!

[@thomasguillaume5184]

​@auswi hey mate, I bought the excat same bike litteraly one week before it get replace by this newer model. Still waiting on the delivery over here in Australia. How's been your experience so far after 3 months of use with that specific model?

[@Sutlore007]

I am still on a rim brake bike in 2023, feeling great! Unless they drop some price, then it would be considerable buy :)

[@mb10kx]

how you deal with the mud in winter

[@Sutlore007]

@@mb10kx wash my bike after use 😄 Actually, winter here is dry. The wet season in my location is rainy season, which I will switch to MTB because the local road is covered with mud.

[@olivierschneider9968]

CFR price range is sky rocketting now.... more than 9k€ for an endurace bike .... The range of the new Endurace from Canyon is weird. I will stick to my Endurace from previous version.

[@tonyg3091]

That’s the price for the second tier Roubaix and Domane-just for perspective.

[@AdityaDodda]

Nice review! I wish companies run tests at 30 kmph and not just 45 kmph.

[@SaintMikolaj]

There will be no differences at all ;-)

[@AdityaDodda]

@@SaintMikolaj You mean the feature would not make a difference? And the brands cannot claim much?

[@tonyg3091]

Nah, that’s not gonna be scientific. 220 km/h in vacuum is way closer to the real world…

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@SaintMikolaj You clearly know nothing about aerodynamic drag. #V2

[@salsalawyer]

Top tube storage only has room for about 4 AA batteries to my eye. The outgoing bike seems like a better value

[@gingerb36]

Put the storage in the down tube where there’s more room please Canyon

[@ewtcizs1101]

That's what I was thinking.. I like the idea but I have a normal handpump in my down tube storage, in addition to all the rest. I do not really see any point in putting it in the top tube

[@joelschoening5889]

Would be hard to do that unless everything is wireless. Most internals are stored in the down tube. Even then they may be worried about the liability of people reaching down to the down tube while riding. Lawsuit are why we can’t have nice things haha

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

Storage rooms in bike frames are silly. They make a frame heavier, more complicated to produce, therefore more expensive, still leave multiple potential breaking points and add parts you can lose and difficult to replace (as in having to wait weeks until that lid gets delivered). Keep it simple and put your stuff in your jersey pockets!

[@risesir]

Mighty generous of you to call that “storage.” But really, what were they thinking?

[@GarethHailes]

Half a kilo heavier than last years CF SLX 9 Di2

[@bernardo9202]

it's an incetive for you to loose weight

[@sleepdeprived9181]

yep, they needed to make it heavier. Last gen Endurace were lighter than same tier Ultimates. Definitely cockpit and the top tube storage adds more weight. Wheel is lighter than Ultimates still.

[@adamgoodman3422]

Going back & forth between one of these and an aeroad. The Ego wants speeds but the glutes want comfort

[@jojokimbo]

The Road Bike We Should All Be Riding? No thanks, it is too exensive. I just bought a Canyon Endurace Al 7 for 1200€, and it is perfect for my needs. If I want more comfort, I'll buy a couple of Spa Jacuzzi with the remaining budget

[@karolislatakas137]

Where can you buy now? Because I only find reviews

[@BikeLife154]

Get rid of the dumb top tube storage and those accident waiting to happen handlebars and it would be nice.

[@Gianniz27]

Endurace CF7 or CF8.

[@aliancemd]

I plan to get SLX 7 and replace those very heavy wheels with some Zipp wheels I already have and throw 35mm gravel tires on it - it can be quite a versatile bike if you are not interested in racing.

[@roadcc]

Sounds good! The SLX 7 looks like the pick of the bunch

[@Thomas-fy9yc]

I think a compare between the Caledonia 5, Synapse Himod, Roubaix, all of these you kind actually try before you buy and have higher resale value. I ride a Supersix EVO, and have been using my gravel bike with 30c tires as a road touring bike as Ive gotten older. Probably will get an high performance endurance bike on my upgrade.

[@rangersmith4652]

The fastest endurance road bike certainly is NOT the one we should all be riding. We should be riding the bike that reasonably meets our needs and fits into our bike budget. That might be this bike for some people, but certainly not for all of us or even most of us. That top tube storage is probably the most gimmicky "feature" I've seen in a while.

[@susiepellow3612]

It's rather myopic for Road CC to suggest that the choice of bikes is simply between race or endurance. There are a whole host of folk out there for whom either type of bike would not be suitable - eg I would suggest neither type are the best for touring with panniers or folding-up for the daily commute.

[@manfredmustermann4303]

CO2 Container: Get it out before flying somewhere. Very good comment. Thanks for this video and the hint.

[@matteo.ceriotti]

It's a bit cheeky that it shows the full set of tools coming out of the top tube but they are not included in the bike, and actually quite expensive to buy separately!

[@semidemiurge]

insane prices

[@troisminutesdumans7650]

What if I want other length of stem of this handlebar? I don’t really see any solution from canyon end

[@JonLeonardF10]

You should paragliding with that Endurace canyon bike and see how far can you + if it’s really more Aerodynamic bike 😊

[@roadcc]

Next time next time

[@timboskinz]

Jamie, your content delivery is awesome. Really entertaining without any gimmicks. Keep it up fella!

[@Numeriwar]

The quill stem with the pressure screw is a stupid proprietary design

[@dperreno]

Not a quill stem. Integrated handlebar (center section) and stem. I agree it is problematic as you can't just leave the steerer tube at full length and adjust the stem up and down. You have to cut the steerer tube to adjust the height, and there's no going back. But, having said that, most of us never change our stem height once we get it set up the way we want it.

[@chm2]

Currently on a Roubaix. Jealous of the neat and tidy internal cockpit cabling. Not jealous of how difficult it would be to do any sort of maintenance with the cockpit.

[@tonyg3091]

What maintenance?

[@michaelmappin4425]

Suddenly Trek's frame storage seems like genius.

[@festerofest4374]

For real. I can fit about 4x more volume of stuff in mine. A much larger diameter bag above, and below the opening port as well than this little top tube hole.

[@piratepete1475]

another over priced china made bike ...frame and fork cost 150..00 dollers to make

[@Olsen65]

I could do without the beeping.

[@rupertlangdon2246]

In terms of stack/reach ratio isn't it less aggressive than the Grail and even the Grizl.... and Vitus Venon Evo RS Aero?

[@blinzi69]

I wish they would sell just the frameset with that color option.

[@roadcc]

It really does look good in the flesh

[@blinzi69]

@@roadcc I think with the 35mm tire clearance the new endurance would be the perfect do it all bike for me. just have 2 wheelsets with road and gravel tires and swap them for your needs. i just do not want to buy an all new bike, just the frameset would do it for me. would happily pay 2.5k for the SLX frameset. hope they come up with some options.

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

Aero bike characteristics are the biggest marketing BS I've ever heard in my entire life! 7 Watts at 45kph? Who the F rides this fast.. Even the pros at the highest level often times don't average at that speed!

[@DaveCM]

That top tube storage is virtually useless. It makes more sense in the downtube where more stuff can be fitted. Like a tube.

[@jaybikes99]

I like the idea of not having stuff in my pockets, maybe a tpu tube might cram in…not sure why Canyon didn’t just put it in the down tube though

[@JogBird]

it was prob an afterthought, after the molds etc were machined, some marketing person said... hey we need this, make it happen or youre fired

[@userdjee834]

And they had to paint the top in black because of the plastic cover, so it's not only mostly useless, but it's making an otherwise nice looking bike plain ugly.. Epic fail.

[@macb.631]

@@jaybikes99 Down tube storage will come with the new Grail coming maybe this fall.

[@thedownunderverse]

@@userdjee834Canyon have been doing “black top tube” with solid colour rest-of-frame for a decade

[@marky1974]

Any chance of a comparison with the cube agree or even a review of the latest cube agree?

[@bernardo9202]

I think that would be the cube agree, but, a shame that one only has 30 mm clearance

[@GmailNexus]

the model he's riding in this video is almost 10.000€ 🙄

[@joshgray9035]

Tubeless ready. You're never getting those tyres off with the dinky tyre levers

[@adamsolomon9353]

stop integrating cables! (yes I'm commenting with this comment on every review I've seen on this bike. I apologize for initially calling it a paid promotion if, it is not indeed a paid promotion)

[@roadcc]

A fair point initially…and very wrong with the second

[@plefevre]

Just ordered a CF SLX 8 model for gravel. Can't wait! I have an Ultimate CF SLX for road so I know how damn good these bikes are.

[@aliancemd]

Same here but slightly worried about how thin that seat tube is, for gravel.

[@amfromch]

it's compared to my S-Works Roubaix also a very fast and comfortable bike....BUT....... 4k cheaper than the Roubaix ;-)

[@runfast422]

I would love to have one for those long rides (100+ miles)! And I’ll keep my race bike for those shorter rides.

[@brandonclark8736]

You have the wrong idea, like most people. The endurance bikes don't help much more on a longer ride. They help those riders who RIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY, for HOURS a day. With a bike like this, your body will not hurt from day to day and you will be able to rider 200+ days IN A ROW without fail. Source - me

[@tr4nnel752]

Haha it's so so sad this colorway is not available on the midtier models, looks gorgeous!

[@adamc2579]

Yes yes yes. Canyon always disappoint with their colour choices. I’d literally just accepted that I’d go for the previous grey version, after nearly a year of umming and ahhing… and now they changed it. Don’t like either of the mid range colours. Just dull.

[@Penalist]

The combination of a relatively short reach and an unswappable cockpit ends it for me.

[@gritynity]

Yeah but this cockpit is adjustable, so just get the size frame you want and just adjust the handlebar width to whatever you want

[@Penalist]

@@gritynity I want at least 110 stem length, for a size M or S.

[@gritynity]

@@Penalist it sounds like, you may need to start looking at the ultimate then. They may have the same cockpit but the frame will probably be longer

[@Penalist]

@@gritynity Correct, but than I won’t have an endurance type stack nor the corresponding lay-up of the frame, and even the Ultimate is, essentially, too short with the (for me personally) short stems (likewise with the Aeroad). My actual point is (therefore) that Canyon has become a no-go brand for me, because there is no possibility of getting a personalized set-up, not even after-market.

[@gritynity]

@@Penalist that's a shame, canyon seems like the only company that to be trying to make their bikes more flexible to consumers and it looks like they have a ways to go. I hope you find something that will fit you properly

[@PnAu1]

Do not buy this bike. I bought this bike - Endurace CF SLX 8 Di2 Aero, and it arrived with such an ugly paint job. Numbers are visible on the frame, and the bike has so many white spots, as if it wasn't properly painted. I paid €5,258.80 for the bike and got such crap. All Canyon managed to respond is that it's a special color, that it's a unique bike... and so on. I have seen many other bikes with the same color - Stealth - and none of them was in such a condition as this Canyon. Shame. For such money. Think twice! If you want, I can show you pictures. I have a lot of photos.

[@thedudewithpedal]

Would be great if they have a proper aerobar to fit their aero cockpit.

[@renegadeflyer2]

I truly hate to mention this but, this bike looks very simular to my open mold endurance frame from velobuild. I had built a year and a half ago. Using a full mecanical 105 group set and used Ican wheels and other parts . It cost me $2000. For everything. Light, fast, great handling, and very comfortable. What more do you want.

[@vingitalia5823]

Got mine just recently CF SLX 7 DI2 only thing I changed is the chain rings I normally ride 53/39 so I went a little further 54/40 she flys once you get going hell yeah oh and I Hunt wheels 30 mm sweet and comfortable but fast. #GoCanyonslx7 #BigBoyGears

[@timdixo]

Face palm....backwards steps from earlier iterations (I have the 2018 version) -less aero and less comfortable: higher stack height with very limited adjustability to dial fit vs non integrated stem -more unsafe: one fall and I wouldn't trust those bars,better watch those torque settings -pricier: that idiotic carbon cockpit blows up the cost

[@tanwera]

I own a 2024 CFR. I can confirm that the top tube storage area is of a stupid design. I couldn't even get two different sets of plastic tire levers into the hole because the hole is not long enough to slide the levers in. Nore can I fit my tiny multitool in there. It would have been nice if I could have put in all that was needed for a tire change in the storage compartment, but even if I bought the canyon tire levers (or cut mine down), I couldn't put a spare tube in there. Currently I have two Co2 cartridges, a small inflater head, and spare cash in the top tube. So not useless. However, I still need a seat bag to put my spare tube and multitool. I guess it would allow me to use a smaller seat bag if I wanted to get one. It doesn’t take away anything from the bike, but it doesn't add much.

[@froggy0162]

No sale - cables routed through the headset is dumb as dog doo doo. Makes cables go through all sorts of bends that not only makes cable replacement a pita, it ruins shift performance and feel. Giant have ruined the Defy with this nonsense as well sadly...

[@nockee]

Many endurance riders would want the option for aerobars. Also 1.5 cm of spacers is not enough for real long endurance rides. Clearly a good option for mid distance racing. Not what I would consider real endurance but for most it’s probably fine.

[@Der_koelsche_Tornado]

I always wanted to have the Aeroad. I loved the design and the sharp look. But for riding longer tracks and also with some mountains the Endurace is simply the better choice. And now with the same handlebar, as the Aeroad as the driver, you „see the exact same“ as on the Aeroad 😍 love it

[@CG-99]

That top tube storage is so ugly. The trapdoor will be lost or broken in 5 mins. And good luck stopping the rattling.

[@rejean2744]

The top tube storage is not a plus in my mind. It seems an asinine attempt to impress. The rest of the bike looks great.

[@JohnDoe-yh9gi]

Canyon frames used to be made by Giant. Now china made. Hard pass.

[@ZK-kt5sg]

Who would by this crap for 10k? just add 2k and you have Pinarrelo F.

[@DYSPoZYToR]

Grawel + DuraAcze = Chujniazdupy

[@jonathansale7138]

What is canyon surfing like?

[@TheDjith]

Im an amateur rider and looking for a new bike. CF7 or CF8 di2 ?