2023 Canyon Endurace - The Road Bike We SHOULD All Be Riding?

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@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the new bike? And in particular THAT top tube storage!
@michaelmappin4425
@michaelmappin4425 Жыл бұрын
Gimmicks like frame storage and integrated electronics push me away from a bike. How can a door hole in the top tube be as strong as a solid top tube?
@Jaime-vf6eu
@Jaime-vf6eu Жыл бұрын
Cracker review. Definitely one of the most interesting I've seen in some time, not just the usual "oh this is the best thing since sliced bread you should definitely buy one". Kudos.
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 Жыл бұрын
If I had that money and needed a new one, sure would be on my bucket list. At least the frame alone.
@grahamroot4521
@grahamroot4521 Жыл бұрын
Would have really considered one but the weight has gone up dramatically compared to the previous version, can’t really see why!
@kidAG
@kidAG Жыл бұрын
That top tube condom space is clearly a reason NOT to buy it.
@DnDMF
@DnDMF Жыл бұрын
The storage lid and its clip remind me the one on tv remote controls. A lot of remotes out there with sellotape on.
@runnerdan785
@runnerdan785 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest videos you lot have done! The presenter is hilarious and I love the random outtakes! Love the bike but the Top Tube storage is a bit odd? Prefer a basket on the front! Colour is nice though!
@crailwah
@crailwah Жыл бұрын
Something about the fit with a lot of the videos about the canyon endurance juts looks really weird . But would still love to ride one
@aidanmasterson50
@aidanmasterson50 Жыл бұрын
Have a 2019 Endurace and an Aethos S-Works. If I’m being honest the Endurace is faster (on flat) and more comfortable and a fraction of the price. It’s a Super bike. Shame they are increasing the prices though. That ship has sailed in the current market. CFR is not lighter than the outgoing CF-SLX and the CF-SLX aero is not lighter than the outgoing CF-SL. They both might be marginally more Aero over 40kph. 😂 Like most Endurance riders do that. That said they are still cheaper than many similarly spec’d bikes. A joy to ride.
@auswi
@auswi Жыл бұрын
I bought a CF SLX 9 three months ago (and love it) and nearly had buyer's remorse when I saw this new Endurace. But when I had a deeper look at it, other than the full internal cable routing and top tube storage, I would argue not much has changed. I still have the same DT Swiss ERC 1100 wheels, Dura-Ace groupset (but with Rotor cranks and inspider power meter), that "interesting" seat post, and an aero cockpit. But what I've noticed is that my Endurace was listed as 6.88 kgs. The new ones are heavier and in NZ, $3.5k dearer like for like. Progress maybe... Hmmm...
@aidanmasterson50
@aidanmasterson50 Жыл бұрын
@@auswi trust me, there will be no bike shops refusing to service or replace your head set bearings, plenty won’t touch the new integrated one. Arguably the aerodynamics of the new model are also played up a bit as the made the bike wider for pseudo gravel clearance. You got a good one for less money. Enjoy!
@frankind815
@frankind815 Жыл бұрын
Put a deeper wheel on the aethos It will wake it up I did works great
@andyg9991
@andyg9991 Жыл бұрын
@@auswi My 2019 Endurace CF-SLX is also sub 7kgs ready to ride (small size) and while I would never say no to it being more aero, probably 5 of those 7 watt saving of the new bike is down to the bars. Hidden brake cables would be nice (I have a SRAM Red equiped bike so no shift cables). As far as 35mm tyres, yawn. Changed out the original 30's when they wore out with 28's and its still a plush enough ride for me while being noticeably more stable in cross winds. This is one bike that won't be moved on. Its definitely a keeper. Shout out from across the ditch mate!
@thomasguillaume5184
@thomasguillaume5184 Жыл бұрын
​@auswi hey mate, I bought the excat same bike litteraly one week before it get replace by this newer model. Still waiting on the delivery over here in Australia. How's been your experience so far after 3 months of use with that specific model?
@adamgoodman3422
@adamgoodman3422 Жыл бұрын
Going back & forth between one of these and an aeroad. The Ego wants speeds but the glutes want comfort
@timboskinz
@timboskinz Жыл бұрын
Jamie, your content delivery is awesome. Really entertaining without any gimmicks. Keep it up fella!
@Sutlore007
@Sutlore007 Жыл бұрын
I am still on a rim brake bike in 2023, feeling great! Unless they drop some price, then it would be considerable buy :)
@mb10kx
@mb10kx Жыл бұрын
how you deal with the mud in winter
@Sutlore007
@Sutlore007 Жыл бұрын
@@mb10kx wash my bike after use 😄 Actually, winter here is dry. The wet season in my location is rainy season, which I will switch to MTB because the local road is covered with mud.
@user-xvikol-635
@user-xvikol-635 Ай бұрын
Do you know how to spot a rim brake user? He'll tell you.
@ayadi2671
@ayadi2671 6 ай бұрын
The presenter’s style is brilliant. Entertaining yes informative. Keep it up 👏
@josephzimmermann
@josephzimmermann Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see that Canyon has made improvements to the Endurace bike., I bought a 2022 Endurace CFX DI2 Dura-Ace and was quite disappointed overall with the purchase. On the positive side, the bike was well equipped for the price - Dura-Ace 12-speed Di2 with Rotor cranks/power meter and excellent DT Swiss wheelset for a relatively, in terms of 2022, price. On the negative side, the bike , while giving up some performance features vs the Ultimate in geometry and wheel specs is not really comfortable as advertised, hence no gains in true endurance rides over 120km in my experience I wanted a bike with modern technology to replace my 2008 Cervelo R3 and thought I had found it in the 2022 Endurace but was sadly disappointed. The old Cervelo remains noticably more comfortable with virtually identical performance read-outs as measured by results in average speed, power, etc over similar 120+km rides. Perhaps the new seat-tube and other geometrical improvements in the 2023 version will have remedied these issues.
@farukcetinkaya1019
@farukcetinkaya1019 Жыл бұрын
The new CFR endurance model is 500 g heavier than the old CF SLX model. They even have the same components.
@boscoboys
@boscoboys Жыл бұрын
I am not new to the channel but for some reason I thought it was MVDP presenting a Canyon video here (look alike alert?). Great video as always.
@aliancemd
@aliancemd Жыл бұрын
I plan to get SLX 7 and replace those very heavy wheels with some Zipp wheels I already have and throw 35mm gravel tires on it - it can be quite a versatile bike if you are not interested in racing.
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Sounds good! The SLX 7 looks like the pick of the bunch
@cpac54
@cpac54 Жыл бұрын
I was excited to see a bike with a shorter reach and more upright geometry, but they lost me at the top tube storage thing - I can't even imagine how that must be on a long ride in the rain...
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
We'll let you know in our full review!
@AdityaDodda
@AdityaDodda Жыл бұрын
Nice review! I wish companies run tests at 30 kmph and not just 45 kmph.
@SaintMikolaj
@SaintMikolaj Жыл бұрын
There will be no differences at all ;-)
@AdityaDodda
@AdityaDodda Жыл бұрын
@@SaintMikolaj You mean the feature would not make a difference? And the brands cannot claim much?
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Жыл бұрын
Nah, that’s not gonna be scientific. 220 km/h in vacuum is way closer to the real world…
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 9 ай бұрын
@@SaintMikolaj You clearly know nothing about aerodynamic drag. #V2
@mikeburton8426
@mikeburton8426 Жыл бұрын
It looks really nice but does an endurance bike really need the integrated front end? That storage thingy looks ideal for carrying… twizzlers.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides Жыл бұрын
Really like this bike. Great second bike to have for those rides on the roads less travelled while still being more than fast enough.
@troisminutesdumans7650
@troisminutesdumans7650 Жыл бұрын
What if I want other length of stem of this handlebar? I don’t really see any solution from canyon end
@matteo.ceriotti
@matteo.ceriotti Жыл бұрын
It's a bit cheeky that it shows the full set of tools coming out of the top tube but they are not included in the bike, and actually quite expensive to buy separately!
@Thomas-fy9yc
@Thomas-fy9yc Жыл бұрын
I think a compare between the Caledonia 5, Synapse Himod, Roubaix, all of these you kind actually try before you buy and have higher resale value. I ride a Supersix EVO, and have been using my gravel bike with 30c tires as a road touring bike as Ive gotten older. Probably will get an high performance endurance bike on my upgrade.
@frankind815
@frankind815 Жыл бұрын
Never rode a canyon. Would love to try one.
@michalmaly7794
@michalmaly7794 Жыл бұрын
They should add colours. I wish they brought back the green!
@olivierschneider9968
@olivierschneider9968 Жыл бұрын
CFR price range is sky rocketting now.... more than 9k€ for an endurace bike .... The range of the new Endurace from Canyon is weird. I will stick to my Endurace from previous version.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Жыл бұрын
That’s the price for the second tier Roubaix and Domane-just for perspective.
@chm2
@chm2 Жыл бұрын
Currently on a Roubaix. Jealous of the neat and tidy internal cockpit cabling. Not jealous of how difficult it would be to do any sort of maintenance with the cockpit.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Жыл бұрын
What maintenance?
@gingerb36
@gingerb36 Жыл бұрын
Put the storage in the down tube where there’s more room please Canyon
@ewtcizs1101
@ewtcizs1101 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking.. I like the idea but I have a normal handpump in my down tube storage, in addition to all the rest. I do not really see any point in putting it in the top tube
@joelschoening5889
@joelschoening5889 8 ай бұрын
Would be hard to do that unless everything is wireless. Most internals are stored in the down tube. Even then they may be worried about the liability of people reaching down to the down tube while riding. Lawsuit are why we can’t have nice things haha
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 6 ай бұрын
Storage rooms in bike frames are silly. They make a frame heavier, more complicated to produce, therefore more expensive, still leave multiple potential breaking points and add parts you can lose and difficult to replace (as in having to wait weeks until that lid gets delivered). Keep it simple and put your stuff in your jersey pockets!
@risesir
@risesir 6 ай бұрын
Mighty generous of you to call that “storage.” But really, what were they thinking?
@plefevre
@plefevre Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a CF SLX 8 model for gravel. Can't wait! I have an Ultimate CF SLX for road so I know how damn good these bikes are.
@aliancemd
@aliancemd Жыл бұрын
Same here but slightly worried about how thin that seat tube is, for gravel.
@malcolmanderson9678
@malcolmanderson9678 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive review! Thoughts on the CF-7 vs the more premium models with integrated bars etc? I'm considering the endurace for as my first road specific bike.
@tanwera
@tanwera 4 ай бұрын
I own a 2024 CFR. I can confirm that the top tube storage area is of a stupid design. I couldn't even get two different sets of plastic tire levers into the hole because the hole is not long enough to slide the levers in. Nore can I fit my tiny multitool in there. It would have been nice if I could have put in all that was needed for a tire change in the storage compartment, but even if I bought the canyon tire levers (or cut mine down), I couldn't put a spare tube in there. Currently I have two Co2 cartridges, a small inflater head, and spare cash in the top tube. So not useless. However, I still need a seat bag to put my spare tube and multitool. I guess it would allow me to use a smaller seat bag if I wanted to get one. It doesn’t take away anything from the bike, but it doesn't add much.
@Der_koelsche_Tornado
@Der_koelsche_Tornado 7 ай бұрын
I always wanted to have the Aeroad. I loved the design and the sharp look. But for riding longer tracks and also with some mountains the Endurace is simply the better choice. And now with the same handlebar, as the Aeroad as the driver, you „see the exact same“ as on the Aeroad 😍 love it
@renegadeflyer2
@renegadeflyer2 6 ай бұрын
I truly hate to mention this but, this bike looks very simular to my open mold endurance frame from velobuild. I had built a year and a half ago. Using a full mecanical 105 group set and used Ican wheels and other parts . It cost me $2000. For everything. Light, fast, great handling, and very comfortable. What more do you want.
@rupertlangdon2246
@rupertlangdon2246 Жыл бұрын
In terms of stack/reach ratio isn't it less aggressive than the Grail and even the Grizl.... and Vitus Venon Evo RS Aero?
@salsalawyer
@salsalawyer Жыл бұрын
Top tube storage only has room for about 4 AA batteries to my eye. The outgoing bike seems like a better value
@michaelmappin4425
@michaelmappin4425 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly Trek's frame storage seems like genius.
@festerofest4374
@festerofest4374 Жыл бұрын
For real. I can fit about 4x more volume of stuff in mine. A much larger diameter bag above, and below the opening port as well than this little top tube hole.
@marky1974
@marky1974 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of a comparison with the cube agree or even a review of the latest cube agree?
@heinrichkleist3473
@heinrichkleist3473 3 ай бұрын
Such an awesome bike. I'd totally get this but currently I have a Basso Astra with Campagnolo wheels and it's such a dream.
@JonLeonardF10
@JonLeonardF10 Жыл бұрын
You should paragliding with that Endurace canyon bike and see how far can you + if it’s really more Aerodynamic bike 😊
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Next time next time
@JohnDoe-yh9gi
@JohnDoe-yh9gi 11 ай бұрын
I have fitted a 35c panaracer gravelking on rr21 dicut wheels. And the bike is 2016 endurace cf slx. Joy
@scotchgod8478
@scotchgod8478 7 ай бұрын
Do you think there is space for tires even wider than 35mm?
@thedudewithpedal
@thedudewithpedal Жыл бұрын
Would be great if they have a proper aerobar to fit their aero cockpit.
@elgrego
@elgrego Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoyed this.
@tr4nnel752
@tr4nnel752 Жыл бұрын
Haha it's so so sad this colorway is not available on the midtier models, looks gorgeous!
@adamc2579
@adamc2579 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes. Canyon always disappoint with their colour choices. I’d literally just accepted that I’d go for the previous grey version, after nearly a year of umming and ahhing… and now they changed it. Don’t like either of the mid range colours. Just dull.
@matlindell5022
@matlindell5022 Жыл бұрын
These handlebars are freaking frightening 🥶🥴
@vanivari359
@vanivari359 Жыл бұрын
As multiple people wrote something similar, i'm curious - why are the frightening? Because you can "unscrew" them?
@kartografist
@kartografist Жыл бұрын
Got CF SL on February fro 3999€ and a bit jealous now)) so slick with hidden cables ❤
@davemoss6976
@davemoss6976 Жыл бұрын
I'm retired with a good pensin, I got one of these immediately when I heard the claims, but the 18 yr old in the club is stll faster on his 10 year old none aero bike. Can I get my money back?
@GarethSargeant-op9zf
@GarethSargeant-op9zf Жыл бұрын
That must be the same 18yr old who is in my club....
@blinzi69
@blinzi69 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would sell just the frameset with that color option.
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
It really does look good in the flesh
@blinzi69
@blinzi69 Жыл бұрын
@@roadcc I think with the 35mm tire clearance the new endurance would be the perfect do it all bike for me. just have 2 wheelsets with road and gravel tires and swap them for your needs. i just do not want to buy an all new bike, just the frameset would do it for me. would happily pay 2.5k for the SLX frameset. hope they come up with some options.
@manfredmustermann4303
@manfredmustermann4303 Жыл бұрын
CO2 Container: Get it out before flying somewhere. Very good comment. Thanks for this video and the hint.
@socopower
@socopower Жыл бұрын
The tube storage is ugly and not much of a saving compared to say the down tube. The video is brilliant though 😂
@robertgray9807
@robertgray9807 Жыл бұрын
Great video review. Thanks!
@runfast422
@runfast422 Жыл бұрын
I would love to have one for those long rides (100+ miles)! And I’ll keep my race bike for those shorter rides.
@brandonclark8736
@brandonclark8736 9 ай бұрын
You have the wrong idea, like most people. The endurance bikes don't help much more on a longer ride. They help those riders who RIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY, for HOURS a day. With a bike like this, your body will not hurt from day to day and you will be able to rider 200+ days IN A ROW without fail. Source - me
@milosjansa-vs3zc
@milosjansa-vs3zc 8 ай бұрын
great video, love the small jokes between the talk ;-)
@Jgibbs82
@Jgibbs82 Жыл бұрын
Top tube storage actually makes more sense to me, down tubes are the primary contributor to stiffness as it directly links the bottom bracket to the head tube, i.e. it would take more frame material to compensate structural rigidity if storage was designed into the down tube, thus making this option inherently lighter. A good example of practical engineering in my book.
@Allride_
@Allride_ 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the subtle humor/sarcasm
@TheDjith
@TheDjith 6 ай бұрын
Im an amateur rider and looking for a new bike. CF7 or CF8 di2 ?
@DaveCM
@DaveCM Жыл бұрын
That top tube storage is virtually useless. It makes more sense in the downtube where more stuff can be fitted. Like a tube.
@jaybikes99
@jaybikes99 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of not having stuff in my pockets, maybe a tpu tube might cram in…not sure why Canyon didn’t just put it in the down tube though
@JogBird
@JogBird Жыл бұрын
it was prob an afterthought, after the molds etc were machined, some marketing person said... hey we need this, make it happen or youre fired
@userdjee834
@userdjee834 Жыл бұрын
And they had to paint the top in black because of the plastic cover, so it's not only mostly useless, but it's making an otherwise nice looking bike plain ugly.. Epic fail.
@macb.631
@macb.631 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybikes99 Down tube storage will come with the new Grail coming maybe this fall.
@thedownunderverse
@thedownunderverse Жыл бұрын
@@userdjee834Canyon have been doing “black top tube” with solid colour rest-of-frame for a decade
@dperreno
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
I like it a lot. Except for the bottom bracket. Press fit? Really? Just go with T-47 already!
@adam-maleki81
@adam-maleki81 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use fenders (mudguard) with this version?
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 Жыл бұрын
Who rides a £9K bike through winter.
@nockee
@nockee Жыл бұрын
Many endurance riders would want the option for aerobars. Also 1.5 cm of spacers is not enough for real long endurance rides. Clearly a good option for mid distance racing. Not what I would consider real endurance but for most it’s probably fine.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 Жыл бұрын
1:01 when your competitors' bikes are so light, they levitate!
@semidemiurge
@semidemiurge Жыл бұрын
insane prices
@stevedouglas3975
@stevedouglas3975 Жыл бұрын
I assume the Di2 battery is in the downtube which if it's like my current Canyon Endurace(2017) means that to replace the battery you have to remove the cranks and bottom bracket. Yes, you read that correctly, to replace the battery the bottom bracket requires removal! Utterly mental design.
@cootey
@cootey 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, I've never seen a Di2 battery crap itself in a hurry. And if you do, then it's literally 10min to remove cranks. I can't say that's a big drama, you can cock about more looking for a seatpost one.
@stevedouglas3975
@stevedouglas3975 4 ай бұрын
@@cootey It's not just cranks, entire bottom bracket needs to be removed on my Endurace. Honestly, it's an utterly crap design.
@cootey
@cootey 4 ай бұрын
@@stevedouglas3975 I suppose. If it's a threaded system it is still not a big drama to swap the battery if it ever fails. The carge point will be on the derailleur or the bars somewhere depending on the age of the system?
@stevedouglas3975
@stevedouglas3975 4 ай бұрын
@@cootey Mine is 2017 bike and has press fit BB which needs special tools to remove/fit. Fortunately I was able to borrow from a friend but otherwise it's taking it to a bike shop or hiring required equipment etc. Its not something that needs to be done regularly of course but it's still a pain! Fortunately I'm reasonably savvy on the tools.
@cootey
@cootey 4 ай бұрын
@@stevedouglas3975 yeah bummer. Mine's a 2014 Trek, so the bearings literally slip in and out. Yeah I know they can be a pain.
@allspokedup
@allspokedup 6 ай бұрын
Definitely a dream bike of mine. Bada**.
@andrewhayes7055
@andrewhayes7055 Жыл бұрын
It's reasonably light but it should be for £9k what does the cheaper real world version weigh?
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Жыл бұрын
The CF SLX is sub 8 kg (7.7something) which makes it both lighter and half the price of Roubaix and Domane
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 Жыл бұрын
I think that would be the cube agree, but, a shame that one only has 30 mm clearance
@55mblindy
@55mblindy Жыл бұрын
Looks like I need the Campy set-up Endurance❓ mine 2020 model has 5500 trouble free tubeless miles on it💥🇺🇸
@J.R.L.96
@J.R.L.96 Жыл бұрын
Which helmet are you wearing? Great video! 🙌🏽
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Cheers! It's a Kask Elemento
@jonathanpang1837
@jonathanpang1837 Жыл бұрын
When the CF was revamped last year (leaving the CF SL and CF SLX to retain a seven year-old design) it received next to no media coverage. Now the CF SLX and CFR have "caught up" with near-identical frames to last year's CF update, and everyone's all over them with reviews. Many people don't even realize the CF was updated last year with the (almost) same frame as this one. I don't get it.
@luisgarcia22
@luisgarcia22 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they were waiting for Specialized to announce anything to catch the media wave?
@Fregorio
@Fregorio Жыл бұрын
Last year there was no version of the Endurace that got the integrated cable at the front For me the biggest difference is the seat tube angle which is now at 72° instead of 73,5°. I think a lot of people didn't saw that and will not understand why there are seated so far back haha
@macb.631
@macb.631 Жыл бұрын
Looks like they wanted to present something more but stopped it short before release... For example the seat post... If you look at the frame it looks like they originally planned something different...
@jonathanpang1837
@jonathanpang1837 Жыл бұрын
​@@FregorioYou're right about last year's lack of cable integration, but many Endurace owners did exactly what Canyon just did to achieve that - use the Ultimate's CP0018 cockpit 🙂
@jonathanpang1837
@jonathanpang1837 Жыл бұрын
​@@luisgarcia22Is that how it works? I would think announcing at a different time so that attention is not "shared" with another is the way to go - à la the automotive market. I guess that's why I'm not in marketing 😆
@Penalist
@Penalist Жыл бұрын
The combination of a relatively short reach and an unswappable cockpit ends it for me.
@gritynity
@gritynity Жыл бұрын
Yeah but this cockpit is adjustable, so just get the size frame you want and just adjust the handlebar width to whatever you want
@Penalist
@Penalist Жыл бұрын
@@gritynity I want at least 110 stem length, for a size M or S.
@gritynity
@gritynity Жыл бұрын
@@Penalist it sounds like, you may need to start looking at the ultimate then. They may have the same cockpit but the frame will probably be longer
@Penalist
@Penalist Жыл бұрын
@@gritynity Correct, but than I won’t have an endurance type stack nor the corresponding lay-up of the frame, and even the Ultimate is, essentially, too short with the (for me personally) short stems (likewise with the Aeroad). My actual point is (therefore) that Canyon has become a no-go brand for me, because there is no possibility of getting a personalized set-up, not even after-market.
@gritynity
@gritynity Жыл бұрын
@@Penalist that's a shame, canyon seems like the only company that to be trying to make their bikes more flexible to consumers and it looks like they have a ways to go. I hope you find something that will fit you properly
@jonathansale7138
@jonathansale7138 6 ай бұрын
What is canyon surfing like?
@vingitalia5823
@vingitalia5823 7 ай бұрын
Got mine just recently CF SLX 7 DI2 only thing I changed is the chain rings I normally ride 53/39 so I went a little further 54/40 she flys once you get going hell yeah oh and I Hunt wheels 30 mm sweet and comfortable but fast. #GoCanyonslx7 #BigBoyGears
@GarethHailes
@GarethHailes Жыл бұрын
Half a kilo heavier than last years CF SLX 9 Di2
@bernardo9202
@bernardo9202 Жыл бұрын
it's an incetive for you to loose weight
@sleepdeprived9181
@sleepdeprived9181 Жыл бұрын
yep, they needed to make it heavier. Last gen Endurace were lighter than same tier Ultimates. Definitely cockpit and the top tube storage adds more weight. Wheel is lighter than Ultimates still.
@underoathuea
@underoathuea Жыл бұрын
the top tube piece is the most Canyon thing I've ever seen.
@klaxxon__
@klaxxon__ Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the hidden tool kit do a really crap job replacing an actual multitool and a saddle bag? I still wouldn't go out without a chain tool, a spare tire (or at least a puncture repair kit), and those levers look nightmarish to use (I have difficulty seating my tire even with proper long parktool levers...). I don't get the purpose of the hidden kit, seems like a waste of space.
@swray2112
@swray2112 Жыл бұрын
I want to like Canyon, but their sticking with press fit bottom brackets makes it a no go for me. Seen other reviews, the cover for the top tube storage seems as loose as an average remote control.
@Gianniz27
@Gianniz27 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no problems with Canyon press-fit frames.
@bedathprop
@bedathprop Жыл бұрын
Any chance of an aluminium frame??
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
www.canyon.com/en-gb/road-bikes/endurance-bikes/endurace/al/
@theatomic430
@theatomic430 Жыл бұрын
$8,999 USA. Bike we should all be riding? C'mon now...
@quintennn
@quintennn Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of this bike. The endurace has always been a cool endurance bike but this generation hits the nail on the head. Bike manufacturers should build more cool looking, fast bikes that don't break people's backs. Of course if you are super flexible, athletic etc go for the through-and-through race bike if you want! But the mere mortals like me, like the looks of bikes like the ultimate, aeroad, sl7 etc etc, but most endurance bikes look super boring, aren't performance focused. So this feels like a step in the right direction for the general public. Next up: endurance aero bikes and more cool endurance bikes overall!
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
We hope the bike industry is listening! Well said!
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 Жыл бұрын
The fastest endurance road bike certainly is NOT the one we should all be riding. We should be riding the bike that reasonably meets our needs and fits into our bike budget. That might be this bike for some people, but certainly not for all of us or even most of us. That top tube storage is probably the most gimmicky "feature" I've seen in a while.
@susiepellow3612
@susiepellow3612 Жыл бұрын
It's rather myopic for Road CC to suggest that the choice of bikes is simply between race or endurance. There are a whole host of folk out there for whom either type of bike would not be suitable - eg I would suggest neither type are the best for touring with panniers or folding-up for the daily commute.
@defaultstate4536
@defaultstate4536 Жыл бұрын
me riding 30mm front/32mm rear on my 2017 canyon endurace before it was cool? :D
@AngryPirate0
@AngryPirate0 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a Specialized Roubaix be the comparable model line rather than a Tarmac ?
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, we only referenced the sl8 as we currently have that on test, the roubaix is definitely the main competition but is quite a dated design now
@Gianniz27
@Gianniz27 Жыл бұрын
Canyon, bring back the cheaper Endurace CF7 and CF8 modells, for 2-3000 euros, hugely better value, without all the stupid things the new version has, and 2X, 3X, 4X price tag.
@adamsolomon9353
@adamsolomon9353 Жыл бұрын
stop integrating cables! (yes I'm commenting with this comment on every review I've seen on this bike. I apologize for initially calling it a paid promotion if, it is not indeed a paid promotion)
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
A fair point initially…and very wrong with the second
@jenspetersimonsen4235
@jenspetersimonsen4235 Жыл бұрын
So, how about one of these at entry level? 3-3,5k for the 'cheapest' specimen is still quite a handout for a rec cyclist about to get started 😕
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is, in fact it was part of the inspiration to write this article: road.cc/content/feature/rising-price-entry-level-road-bikes-303057
@albux
@albux Жыл бұрын
The cheapest specimen from the Endurace range with aluminum frame and rim brakes is 1,35k
@jojokimbo
@jojokimbo Жыл бұрын
The Road Bike We Should All Be Riding? No thanks, it is too exensive. I just bought a Canyon Endurace Al 7 for 1200€, and it is perfect for my needs. If I want more comfort, I'll buy a couple of Spa Jacuzzi with the remaining budget
@karolislatakas137
@karolislatakas137 Жыл бұрын
Where can you buy now? Because I only find reviews
@BikeLife154
@BikeLife154 Жыл бұрын
Get rid of the dumb top tube storage and those accident waiting to happen handlebars and it would be nice.
@Gianniz27
@Gianniz27 Жыл бұрын
Endurace CF7 or CF8.
@mb10kx
@mb10kx Жыл бұрын
No mudguard mounts for a bike suited for all roads? really a shame indeed. i don't understand why one would need the disc brakes and wide tires if you not riding on bad roads with mud?
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 Жыл бұрын
All roads in the UK are bad but I avoid the muddy ones and wont be riding a £9k through winter anyway. So wide tyres and disc brakes without mudguards is fine by me.
@Numeriwar
@Numeriwar Жыл бұрын
The quill stem with the pressure screw is a stupid proprietary design
@dperreno
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
Not a quill stem. Integrated handlebar (center section) and stem. I agree it is problematic as you can't just leave the steerer tube at full length and adjust the stem up and down. You have to cut the steerer tube to adjust the height, and there's no going back. But, having said that, most of us never change our stem height once we get it set up the way we want it.
@_vinceverano
@_vinceverano Жыл бұрын
Jesus i thought he was Mathieu van der Poel for a second 🤣
@dansimon4536
@dansimon4536 11 ай бұрын
I just one. Thanks for the review
@DonaldConceicao
@DonaldConceicao Жыл бұрын
Is that bike white? Looks lime …
@thatguy9051
@thatguy9051 Жыл бұрын
That would be Trek Madone...........Thanks.
@human-pl7kx
@human-pl7kx Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you need CFR endurance bike!!!! CFR is Canyon factory RACING!!!! And Endurance bike is anything but racing!!!! Cheapest Canyon Aeroad will slaughter this CFR and will cost you twice less!!!!
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
It might “slaughter” it in a wind tunnel but we don’t think fast bikes with geometry that actually suits the general public are in anyway a bad thing. And it is called the EnduRACE after all
@sleepdeprived9181
@sleepdeprived9181 Жыл бұрын
Slaughter in a bike race on flats, but not for ultra-long distance riding and hills.
@mark_nz
@mark_nz Жыл бұрын
It will slaughter your lower back that's for sure
@human-pl7kx
@human-pl7kx Жыл бұрын
@@sleepdeprived9181 Longer than Tour de France? I currently own Endurace 2023, I know what i'm talking about. Yes position on Endurace is more upright! But it leads to excessive pressure on your bottom part! Had to buy longer stem. On a new Endurace you have to replace whole cockpit.
@sleepdeprived9181
@sleepdeprived9181 Жыл бұрын
@@human-pl7kx yes, im talking longer than average tour de france course. 200km above. Btw, I also bought an Endurace just this June. Anything with that distance can hurt your bottom no matter how good your saddle or chamois is. I find that the Endurace stock saddle is not very good, even with short-distance rides though. I changed it up to Power with Mirror, and it was all ok. As for needing a longer stem, maybe your bike size is one size smaller? A balanced weight distribution is certainly better. Endurace 2023 has just been released last week. What they sold earlier this year was the 2022 model.
@Rebecca-zr3lu
@Rebecca-zr3lu 3 ай бұрын
Today, I pray for bicycle and equipment safety in Jesus name Amen 🙏
@joshgray9035
@joshgray9035 7 ай бұрын
Tubeless ready. You're never getting those tyres off with the dinky tyre levers
@amfromch
@amfromch 7 ай бұрын
it's compared to my S-Works Roubaix also a very fast and comfortable bike....BUT....... 4k cheaper than the Roubaix ;-)
@oaponanmtb2917
@oaponanmtb2917 10 ай бұрын
Has anyone read the negative reviews on Canyon? I'm not just talking about a few nay-sayers. There are hundreds of them and they all have the same problem. No after sales support, no responsibility for damaged/badly packed bikes. I was keen on their rim brake Endurace, but after reading the trust pilot reviews I bailed. Their marketing model is crap.
@Pranav_m_Mistry
@Pranav_m_Mistry Жыл бұрын
This geometry is not technically endurance. Especially the lower stack with barely any spacers. No room to dial in a fit.
@cpac54
@cpac54 Жыл бұрын
The size small has a stack of 568 and a reach of 375... if that's not endurance, I'd like to know what is in your opinion.
@Pranav_m_Mistry
@Pranav_m_Mistry Жыл бұрын
@@cpac54 Hey! So 568 is about 7-15mm. short of an average 54cm frame size. Otherwise,even with a 568mm stack, if the spacers provided were of about 40mm (like trek) would've been helpful. 15mm spacers leaves any room to get a proper bike fit. Even the regular Endurace has 35 mm spacers. 15 mm Makes it more like a race fit. Now that for some might be ok, but not for high inseam riders like myself. And my comment was only specific to the stack. The reach is appropriate.
@rejean2744
@rejean2744 6 ай бұрын
The top tube storage is not a plus in my mind. It seems an asinine attempt to impress. The rest of the bike looks great.
@GmailNexus
@GmailNexus Жыл бұрын
the model he's riding in this video is almost 10.000€ 🙄
@20dpb
@20dpb Жыл бұрын
Jamie looks like a discount MVDP 😂😂
@chrisblanchard4938
@chrisblanchard4938 Жыл бұрын
Will the pro teams ride this at next years Paris Roubaix race? I bet not
@roadcc
@roadcc Жыл бұрын
Unsure why they would…the whole point of an endurance bike is surely so us mere mortals are comfy on long rides, the pros don’t seem to have any problem holding super aggressive positions for 3 weeks at a time
@TheSimon701
@TheSimon701 Жыл бұрын
Mathieu van der poel is that you??
@timdixo
@timdixo Жыл бұрын
Face palm....backwards steps from earlier iterations (I have the 2018 version) -less aero and less comfortable: higher stack height with very limited adjustability to dial fit vs non integrated stem -more unsafe: one fall and I wouldn't trust those bars,better watch those torque settings -pricier: that idiotic carbon cockpit blows up the cost
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