2023 CFMoto 800MT UK Review PART 1

In this episode we look at the CFMOTO 800MT Touring and Sport; and see what it's all about.
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[@beaulunawolf1198]

I got the chance to demo ride one of these this past week at Daytona bike week. I have to say I was impressed. The build quality is excellent and it comes with many things that the Japanese 4 just refuse to add in the segment. The best news is that bikes like these will ultimately force the hand of other manufacturers to be more competitive.

[@roadwarrior8560]

You can't tell build quality from a demo ride, you have to do some work on the bike and see how it holds up over time. I'll be interested to see how these stand up after 50,000 miles of all year riding.

[@occyman]

I’ve owned one of these for 9mths in Aus - it’s brilliant. Not one single issue apart from a touchy throttle which I can easily ride around. I’ve been riding 50yrs and owned 4 x BMW 1200GS and 2 x 1250 GS. This bikes build quality is every bit as good as my GS and in fact I sold my 2021 GS1250 for $30k, bought this for $14k and put $16k back into my bank and despite being initially concerned about brand and dealer network (which is now huge) I haven’t regretted it once.

[@shaneriches2813]

Hi mate, why did you get rid of it. It looks like a fantastic bike.

[@occyman]

@Shane Riches hi Shane...did you mean why did I get rid of the GS? If so..I've owned 6 of them over a period of time and i change bikes often - whilst they are a great bike they have some weaknesses. I test rode the CF Moto and found it is smaller, lighter, narrower and much better around town but just as good out of the city and its 1/3 of the price. I was very much the loudest vouce against the CF Moto in our riding group (didn't want a Chinese bike and all) and I rode one and knew within 5mins I'd buy one. Now my mate has just bought one too. Hope that helps.

[@shaneriches2813]

@@occyman Oh, got ya, I thought you got rid of the CFmoto after 9 months, good one, great to hear, iI have looked at nearly every video and test on this bike and no one can really fault it, great value and great bike by the looks of things, thanks for the replly.

[@waynebroomfield3391]

Hi. Just wondering how your cfmoto is going. I do have a 2012 Suzuki Vstrom 650. I was thinking of getting another Vstrom but newer and 1000cc. Thoughts?? Thanks. Perth here

[@fabianbuserell8609]

Bought it, love it.

[@clivegoodman1149]

Love the look, got a VStrom at the moment but looking for a few extras and a bit more power so this might be it!

[@daveb2340]

The simple fact that you reported the rear shock as seeming "nice and boingy" has me hooked; I subscribed instantly at that! Excellent and easy-going review! Thanks!

[@motorsforthemasses]

Haha, I aim to please...

[@robertpinder2307]

I couldn't get it to budge when I was at my dealer.

[@thepathofthehorse3840]

You do wonderful reviews and they are much appreciated. Will be going to see my CF Moto dealer today!

[@ronfeast932]

C spanner for preload rear shock and only one allen bolt and panel to remove acsess tight and painful....don't like that. Fuelling software upgrage required stat.

[@Rides_With_Ron]

Excellent review! I have a cf moto atv. The build quality is fantastic from them.

[@marcoaguiar3226]

Great review interesting bike but, I will still get the Honda transalp reasons: 1 Base is cheaper and comes with all I need. 2 270 degrees crank engine is better sounding. 3 Honda reliability is much better. 4 After market Parts availability will be much better. 5 It Has better tech features like Bluetooth phone connectivity with on screen navigation, several power mode levels, you can turn off the TC completely for offroad etc. 6 kerb weight of only 208kg 7 lower seat height 8 Fuel consumption better. 9 Higher range. 10 it's a Honda and will depreciate less when selling time comes. Also if you like other gimmicks its still better even if you add their fantastic value optional packs. Like the rally pack or touring pack. Ride safe

[@blueyondermoto]

Spot on.

[@chrispekel5709]

The Transalp does sound like a better deal, slightly

[@chrispekel5709]

This also has a 270 degree crank btw

[@ferkuzuel]

I also would prefer the Honda, also most people will end up upgrading for better proven quality aftermarket engine guards, handguards, skid plate etc.. anyway.

[@beetleything1864]

no cruise control - if you get the explore it has Apple Carplay - KTM engine should not be an issue with parts

[@jamiehalifax4954]

Hello, isnt the seat adjustable ? Did you mention if the tires are tubeless ? Great video dude

[@lestersmyth692]

This is a lovely looking bike with an excellent spec. Unfortunately at this price which is Yamaha Tracer 9 GT money I can’t see it selling in numbers here in the “brand image” conscious UK. Thanks for the review look forward too part 2.

[@carlosvejar3938]

It's still works here in the US. The tracer 9gt is the model we get and it's $5,000 more.

[@richardgiles2484]

I've got a tiger at the moment, and this is definitely a contender for my next bike. My only concern is the dealership networks locally in the UK and the EU ??

[@motorsforthemasses]

Dealers are growing in the UK and now with KTM backing, ever more so.

[@clue0001]

This looks amazing. I'm definitely considering getting one of these in the near future. 👍🏻

[@erosas887]

I have the touring version and it has only 3 weak points in my opinion. Jerky throttle in low speeds(the Jerkyness on high speed is much better after the ecu update from cfmoto), the 520 chain that stretches a lot and requires replacement at around 18000km max, and the fuel economy at around 5.2l/100km. Other bad points are the low torque in first and second gear that needs to rev more than usual to not stall, the windscreen even on high position is too low for a 5' 10" person, no traction control and the brakes feel weak and slow to react in emergency. Good: price in Australia ($14490), relaxed engine on high speeds, all tech included and extras(heated grips and seat, TFT, tubeless tyres, crashbars...), 3 years warranty, good suspension, ...

[@dcryder9736]

Great review. Looking forward to the bike coming to the USA as the IBEX 800T. Is there any shops that can flash the ECU to smooth out the fueling?

[@Tomahawkfalcone]

Was looking at these in the uk, but now moving to Australia in September. Had a look how much and if you could get them in Aus, turns out they are 7800 for the touring and 8900 with the luggage and hand grips. No brainer for me

[@stevesanelli90]

Well done Mark. Gonna get a bit of prejudice here. I think it should come with the cases to really hammer the price competitiveness. I wonder if you’ll get the expedition version over there? This has TC & switchable ABS functionality & cases. Looking forward to Part 2. Keep up your great work & entertainment ✅👌

[@chrispekel5709]

It's kind of funny, considering that if you buy a KTM it may very well be made by CFMOTO. It's all in people's perception I think. People need to do more research

[@Jaffa1951]

Love the look of this bike, particularly the touring version. However, I think I'd still choose the new Transalp, as it's cheaper ( £1.600 cheaper ) by what you said, which would pay for a fair amount of the goodies the 800MT comes with.The Transalp is, also, lighter at 208kg kerbweight, against 231kg for the 800MT ( mind you, after you'd fitted the crash bars and rear rack to the Transalp, I doubt there's too much difference ) Plus, I'd imagine that the 4 year warranty this bike comes with means that you have to have dealer services for all those interim and main services the 800MT requires, or it might invalidate the warranty.

[@FrayedString]

I don't know about the terms for the UK version as I'm in the US (where this bike is called the IBEX 800 T). For us the warranty is only 2 years parts/labor, but there are no requirement that the service be done by the dealer; just that all required maintenance is done. Generally for us that just means save all the receipts (for any parts/filters/supplies) and you're good to go. A quick read of the warranty section in the UK version of the owner's manual would probably provide the same clarity. At least then you'd know for sure rather than just guessing.

[@domagojJugovic]

Yes 5 years warranty in EU

[@kittsonic1]

love the look of CFMOTO 800MT ..i'd only wish that vstrom 800de looked more punchy and aggressive..

[@blueyondermoto]

Nice video, but as the other commentators have said, at that price for a non-premium brand, the new Transalp blows it (and everything else) out of the water.

[@Adventure_blac]

How? The cf moto Included much more standard equipment. Some you can’t even get on the Honda. Includes crash bars, luggage racks, quick shifter, fog lights, heated seats and grips. Yes this brand ain’t premium but Honda isnt a premium brand just well established. Triumph ducati and Aprillia are premium.

[@denisg4288]

I think by premium he means build quality rather than price or marketing. Honda are proven. If you don’t believe, go on Superbike Factory, look at used bikes say 10 years old and nearly all will be the big four Japanese brands.

[@blueyondermoto]

@@denisg4288 I'm referring to CFMoto as non-premium. Honda residuals and build quality have always been rock solid. I've had over a dozen of them over the years. The pricing on Hornet and Transalp are super aggressive.

[@chrispekel5709]

It's hard to compete as believe it or not, Chinese production is no cheaper than Thailand. Might even cost a bit more

[@billfish5913]

What a coincidence. My nearest CFMoto dealer In Wyoming USA emailed me today to let me know the CF Moto 800 Ibex, the Americanized name so as not to offend Yamaha with their MT bikes, is on the East Coast and making its way to Wyoming as we speak. Text. Whatever. Looking forward to throwing a leg over one soon.😎👍

[@FrayedString]

Did you get an IBEX and if so how are you liking it?

[@andyw237]

Looking forward to seeing the US version(Ibex 800), this bike has useful features and is well designed. if they would make the ABS switchable for dirt riding, i would consider trading my Adventure 790 for it. The CF moto seems to have better wind protection, and possibly a better seat. plus the 800 engine is awesome!

[@mervtaylor]

I can't deny it is a very good looking machine but it is coming into a rather crowded market place so has to be good. As it stands at the moment I would choose the Transalp in this sector, I have always had faith in the Honda brand and never had any issues in my Honda ownership. On the other hand I have know some serious catastrophic failures in the KTM brand which would certainly restrain me from buying into it. I know about the warranty but that is no good when you are miles from anywhere and no dealers in the country you are in. Competition is good to keep the big boys on their toes and they have done a great job, but in the word of Peter Jones, I shan't be investing today.

[@domagojJugovic]

Did all research online on various forums and it is really early to tell, but it seems that cfmoto produced bike should have less problems than KTM, even with same engine. We shall see, for now maybe transalp, I also have vstrom 650 xt

[@roadwarrior8560]

Exactimundo my friend.

[@Blackhart50]

Great bike love it great video as always

[@edsyphan3425]

I agree, I don't see a thing wrong. You were certainly right about the exhaust. That's the best sounding stock pipe that I've heard. They really haven't made to the States yet, mostly 4 wheeler's.

[@chrispekel5709]

The entire range besides these are available in the US

[@edsyphan3425]

@@chrispekel5709 Yes, I've seen the four wheeler's and side by sides, but not these. But it is still winter here,I'll have to get out and look around when the weather warms up.

[@chrispekel5709]

@@edsyphan3425 sorry, I thought you were saying you hadn't really seen any bikes over there

[@FrayedString]

Dealers should be able to get these in the US this year, however the bike is renamed the IBEX 800 here in the US. IBEX 800 S = MT 800 Sport and IBEX 800 T = MT 800 Touring. My local dealer has 2 Ts and 1 S right now, and I'm really tempted to try and make a deal for a T.

[@CharlesDaleActor]

“Boings”, I love technical terms ! Great review, no nonsense. Do you still get the side pannier racks ? Is it just the boxes they’ve taken out of the deal ?

[@motorsforthemasses]

Yes, racks still included on Sport and Touring

[@md8492]

For 2023 they are releasing the Explorer edition soon to be unveiled . Apparently has lots more feature that were missing on the last one. China released a video of it.

[@PeterOekvist]

It's a KTM 790 Adv in new clothing. A safe buy if you don't care about branding.

[@martinhughes9769]

Lovely looking bike, never owned a bike like this only naked or sports tourers, for me it's not that it's a Chinese built bike, even with a substantial warranty, I read so many issues on KZbin related to the KTM brand and their lack of interest when things go wrong with new bikes they look at it but very often fail to address the issues ,by sorting out the problems, a good percentage are new and still under manufacturers warranty, if i was customer I would expect a better service, Not knocking this bike it does look stunning,

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

Check out the new cf moto papio x 01 125, it looks great.

[@jimhedley7459]

Just checked out the papio , I like mini bikes , because their a riot , is it coming to the uk !! I want one 🏍🏍👍👍

[@yumyumbaboon]

So the “Sport” is really just a base model? If it were truly a Sport then surely it’d have the quick shifter and steering damper? What tyres do these run and I wonder are the cast wheels heavier than the spoked? Certainly lots to think about!🤔

[@motorsforthemasses]

As in the video, Maxxis Maxxventure MA1's

[@malusadv]

În Romania we have 5 hears warranty for 800 mt touring.

[@Adventure_blac]

After adding after market parts it’ll be more. Add a quick shifter, luggage racks, fog lights, crash bars, etc it’ll be more by a fair bit

[@motorsforthemasses]

As stated in the video, luggage racks, fog lights, quick shifter, crash bars etc are all included.

[@Adventure_blac]

@@motorsforthemasses meant to tag someone else comparing cheaper bikes with much less options the cf come with standard.

[@gordanmoran4549]

Tuareg 660 for me , looks better on Auto trader for 9k and a fair bit lighter. Made in the EU 🤩

[@roadwarrior8560]

Subbed.

[@FuzzyScaredyCat]

tubed or tubeless tyres?

[@Greggspies]

Trouble is there aren't any dealers, certainly not around Manchester anyways

[@ronbosgra8230]

Does anyone know the firing order of the engine? This engine has the 270 degrees features like slight whistle, lower grunt on idle, but compared to Moto Morini's 180 degrees engine (the red bike behind our host), it's engine does sound the same when revving it. Could be the bigger cilinders causing the lower grunt on idle... Just really curious about it.

[@paradox4142]

it is 75 degrees

[@seanobrien5520]

Iv been researching this bike A LOT and a few reviewers saying it has a 285° firing order, 🤷🏻

[@davmanlop333]

For that price I would go for the honda transalp or Suzuki.

[@ronanjordan8744]

Nice looking bike I just don’t like KTM and reading lots of comments CF Moto is good looking but not quite a quality long last. I was looking to buy one but went for tiger 800 yrs 2 years old and 2k miles on the clock.

[@Adventurous_noob]

Tuareg 660 weighs 30 kg less and costs 11990 EUR. Not sure why it dropped out of your focus ))

[@norm701]

yamaha t7 base model is 10k otr

[@seanobrien5520]

Where's part 2?

[@motorsforthemasses]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGqtn6CoZ8p8pKs

[@beejoutbush3322]

Can I just clarify you said in the intro that CF moto had been making KTM engines since 2017 I thought KTM made the motors for CFmoto?

[@mrsilbo6499]

That's correct. Chinese engines in KTMs. And BMW and Fantic and Benelli and Moto Morini etc etc. They make engines in their millions, for domestic & overseas use. 😊

[@mloclam6917]

Too heavy but nicely styled and that engine well proven

[@chrispekel5709]

It's definitely a road tourer

[@roadwarrior8560]

well proven for breaking down anyway.

[@alanpassmore2275]

Moto Morini X-Cape

[@Mikeycambovideos]

The styling is a 10. All the competition styling is atrocious. Good job, CFmoto

[@CrapKerouac]

Much better looking than a KTM. My gawd KTM street and adventure bikes are ridiculous looking. That's the look and colour KTM should have adopted.

[@chrispekel5709]

It's kind of funny how a 'cheaper' brand that is sort of under their umbrella (even though it's independant) looks way better than their own offerings

[@PulsarGazer]

I thought the build quality of CFMoto was subpar at best. You get what you pay for, not great, not super bad either, but definitely not premium.

[@chrispekel5709]

Have you seen this one up close? Seems just as good as any other more 'premium' brand. Older models had some poor details like crap switches, this one all seems nice

[@rickyknowles]

Wow thats pricey for a chinese brand. More expensive then a Triumph and Yamaha?

[@chrispekel5709]

Not for an equivalent adventure bike it ain't. It's also fully loaded with extras

[@rickyknowles]

@chrispekel5709 but they showed equivalent adv bikes which was cheaper. I mean yeah it might come with extras but I would rather have reliable after sale services and parts rather then gadgets and gimmicks.

[@chrispekel5709]

@@rickyknowles it's true, these bikes have gone up in price a lot. This bike is the old KTM 790 adventure in different clothes, so if you compare it to that it's a bit cheaper. It's not that cheap to produce in china, places like Thailand are actually a bit cheaper

[@chrispekel5709]

@@rickyknowles it's a bigger bike than the Transalp, people keep comparing it but to be honest, provided the reliability is good, I think the CFMoto is actually superior. Never thought I'd say that about Chinese bikes, but here we are

[@chrispekel5709]

​@@rickyknowles only the Transalp is cheaper by the way. My guess is it'll sell out fast and units will have the price jacked up higher than the CFMoto.

[@johnrocker2986]

Drop the term "Cheap and Nasty" we viewers can see it aint.

[@gixxerlemans]

a bit ugly, looks heavy, those side protection tubes are awfull.....gone stick with my 990 Adv 🙂

[@sgtgrash]

Now CFMoto have hitched their wagon to KTM just watch their prices soar through the roof 😮 This was a very bad decision by CFMoto, which may well come back to bite them on the bum in the future...

[@sgtgrash]

Before anyone comments: I know CFMoto has been supplying engines to KTM for quite a while. During this period the company has produced a dedicated range of budget friendly, admirably built machines that have been praised by reviewers and are well regarded by owners alike. The danger now is that management at CFMoto is attempting to push the home brand upmarket by gripping on to the coat tails of their partner, KTM. My concern is that the brand does not have the cachė to compete on price with the big four.

[@Merc399]

every motorcycle review I see coming from the UK plays out like a paid ad. it's literally to the point where I avoid motorcycle reviews from the UK because you guys just gush over every bike a dealer or manufacturer hands you. it's a bad industry precedent to set. stop being so corporate friendly in the UK... it's cringe

[@motorsforthemasses]

We're not......as my videos will show...

[@johna6968]

If it is very boingy then put my name on one..