2023 Detroit Auto Show -- Stellantis Highlights (Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Maserati) - PART 1

[@knowbodiesfull5768]

I'll miss the Charger and Challenger. Even though I never owned one, I had much fun just looking at 'em. I dreamed of having something like a '68-'70 Charger, but they're priced so far out of sight it will remain nothing but a dream for me. I have my "Hemmings Muscle Machines" magazines to read! _(9/17/2023)_

[@Tattletale-Delta]

Don't worry, you'll still see them everywhere.

[@bradwhite5884]

They'll be back one day, either as EV's or a change of management that kicks out all the current ones or something comes out about the inner goings or some drama and end up going back with newer and better team that knows who to do cars, so yeah

[@albertadams2095]

I love the vibe when you were showcasing the cars 🔊😌 Thank you for all of the updates and great views

[@frankcoffey]

The Daytona Banshee looks like a Chip Foose drawing come to life. Breathtaking. 😲

[@mrgurulittle7000]

I wish the Chrysler division of Stellantis made more cars. It's time to stop playing defensively, and more offensively. We need a new Chrysler 200, Dodge Dart, Caravan, Avenger, Journey, Neon, and Dakota, etc. We need a full lineup of Dodge cars and Chrysler cars to take down the imports. They should pretend it’s the 90s all over again.

[@ramihritani]

And Magnum SRT

[@dodge1515]

I'll add a few new ones: Chrysler Atlantic, Chrysler Current, Ram Ram-charger, Chrysler Imperial, Dodge Stealth...

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@ramihritani Yes, definitely that one too.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@dodge1515 Agree. We need those too. Damn Dodge better get to work. We’re dying for these models.

[@MikeV8652]

Okay, but it all comes down to factory capacity. If they built all those Dodges, there wouldn't be any factories left to build half of the Jeeps, Rams, and Chryslers.

[@benzlick]

You always have the best Mopar coverage! And I don’t know about you guys but that Hornet should not be marketed as part of the Brotherhood of Muscle, but what rather the Federation of Compact Utility Vehicles or something like that. My wife was in the market for a compact suv and we test drove the Hornet and she thought it was plain and boring. Instead she bought a Jeep Renegade Altitude that looks street tough and has 4wd as well and she absolutely loves it. Of course it’s a Fiat 500x at heart but it’s also absolutely a Jeep. I don’t know who will buy those Hornets but I can absolutely guarantee it won’t be us in the Brotherhood. Unless it’s for our daughters as their first car, etc

[@MarspeedCars]

Thanks I appreciate it! Yeah I’m with you, the Hornet seems to have a bad rap already and everyone hates it. I don’t think it’s that bad myself, but any video I post of it gets hate and seemingly not many people that I talk to in the industry want to buy it. That being said, it’s just not a performance vehicle, and the R/T with a 0-60 of 5.6 seconds WITH the powershot is just meh and not turning the dial for anyone especially for $40+K for an R/T. This should have been a Chrysler vehicle instead. My guess is Dodge is trying to fill the Journey void with the Hornet, but the Journey actually provided value and size and this Hornet doesn’t give you much.

[@austinkowalski5512]

⁠@@MarspeedCarsI don’t think it’s fair to say everyone hates it. I think it’s hardcore dodge people who hate it. When I drive my hornet around I get a ton of looks and compliments from strangers. Yet when I go on the internet it gets a ton of hate.

[@yodaevil]

I’m thinking they are keeping Chrysler nameplate alive for a reason. That it will expand to the luxury brand with evs if they see that they are truly the future. But it’s just a hunch.

[@MarspeedCars]

Yeah they are definitely cooking up some electric shit for it starting with a 2025 release of something similar to the Airflow. Also hear of a possible bigger SUV like an Imperial nameplate. But everything here on out will be electric from them

[@brucebeamon5460]

E-Vs 👎🏿

[@eatshiy]

7:10. Interior is identical to my 2015 300s!!👍👍 love it!

[@BlakeFreeman-g4k]

Yes, I do I’m a Mopar man I have an SRT, challenger collector edition. I love the cars, the quality the performance and look forward to the future.

[@jamesmyers9285]

I was fortunate to drive a new Peugeot 208 while in France last year. I would buy that car in a heartbeat but would like to see it with a Chrysler face and badge. Why not, they are one of the same companies as we speak. Also, Citreon had some pretty nice vehicles as well. If Chrysler doesn't get off its' dead butt, there won't be a brand to buy.

[@kasio22B]

I'm digging your R&B slow jam background music. Hm... Let's get down! 😂

[@trainglen22]

I love the Hornet GLH concept and the Challenger (wishing it was in Pulm Crazy). Maybe Dodge could bring back the Stratus as it was a fantastic sedan and would bring down the CAFE.

[@MikeV8652]

21:25 "...Maserati. They brought just one vehicle..." Then what is that red Maserati right behind the white one?

[@45searay]

Great review…

[@markday5797]

22:37 minuts that I will never get back. LOL!

[@briantoner5247]

I’d like to know more about the parachute mount. Is it a hitch receiver?

[@evildrizzt1]

It would be awesome if I could pull a camper with it. Put these pickup trucks in their place.

[@MarspeedCars]

It’s nothing standard, but more of a custom fit just for the parachute. It gets mounted to the frame of the car or else it would rip off when getting deployed. So it is removable, but not a hitch or anything similar. You could probably take off the parachute and MacGyver something else to it

[@LEGOCAMARO]

Love that super bee especially with the drag rims. Is this the first super bee you can’t order in yellow?

[@MarspeedCars]

It is absolutely stunning. I know it’s only a 6.4 rather than a Hellcat but holy hell what a good looking car. I’m in love 😅 it isn’t as there was the 2008 and 2009 Super Bees for the 6.1L that were B5 Blue and Hemi Orange exclusively. I guess they don’t think Yellow is so Population anymore?

[@NewtownVids]

Awesome video content👍 A 2003 dodge viper srt-10 cost $80,795 in 2003. How much would've cost in today's dollars?

[@MarspeedCars]

In today’s USD that would be $134,817. Pretty crazy it was that price back then, seems like a good deal 😮

[@bradwhite5884]

I wish Dodge still make the Viper tbh, image a Viper with a SRT10 and Hellcat or Demon fused engine hybrid, it would of been a beast to see, right?

[@benjaminmatute9085]

I still don't like the fact that they didn't offer the super bee with black and yellow like the originals did (because it's literally a bee) and the fact that it's also the last call, you won't be making these anymore so atleast create more color options. And I also felt that they should have a demon charger.

[@MarspeedCars]

Yeah kinda dumb, make it bee colored I agree.

[@Erick10zz]

So what’s the 2024 lineup for dodge? The horney, hellcat durango and the charger ev?

[@benjaminmatute9085]

"horny" 💀💀💀💀💀

[@MarspeedCars]

Yeah pretty much, I believe they will add their next gen Charger and Challenger (powered by the Hurricanes) at some point, or they could pull something like offering a “Challenger Classic” and just continue selling the regular cars they have now because they were “so popular”. Kinda like the Ram classic

[@Erick10zz]

@@MarspeedCars looks like dodge its improvising, a year ago they unveiled the ev concept as a 2024 model year, which it should be arriving at dealerships by now like the 2024 mustang is. Then they get rid of their best selling cars with apparently no replacement (the charger ev could of been a addition to the line up like ram ev) also they said durango hellcat will be only 1 model year (2021) then it will be out even for 2024. Who is running this circus? Is this sabotage?

[@Doc1855]

The Dodge Hornet is an Alpha Romeo which is owned by Stellantis. The Jeep Renegade is a FIAT 500L with a different body, which is owned by Stellantis. Are you seeing the picture now?

[@blu9987]

La Dodge Hornet Gt e le Dodge Hornet R /T Glh e R/T Phew si vede che sono state progettate da designer e tecnici dell'Alfa Romeo, sembrano condividerne molti elementi sia nella carrozzeria, nella tecnologia ma anche nello stile sportivo inconfondibile. È praticamente il gusto italiano applicato ad un marchio americano. Molto maschili ed eleganti allo stesso tempo esattamente come nella filosofia Alfa Romeo.

[@johnandersonjjr]

I wonder if Stilantis will still be around for the ‘24 show?IAnd I thought “new coke” was a big mistake .Except for the chargers /300 and challengers - I was fighting off impending slumber

[@Thejman999]

I don’t know if you are able to find this out, but if anyone could it would be you. Mopar doesn’t say the exact power numbers for their mopar air intake and mopar exhaust for the 5.7. Curious if there is a test or info out there about what gains there are for the mopar add ons.

[@brucebeamon5460]

That Daytona Charger sure has some beautifully sculpted lines to bad its an e-v which I REFUSE to buy into !

[@emilianocruz11]

Hey my friend long time no see a video about what happend with the 90s chrysler concepts and where are now that cars?

[@charlesclement383]

Alfa Romeo and Maserati are my first choices. By the way there was a Maserati MC20 there.

[@chrislewis7340]

FYI The second row seats on the Chrysler Pacifica hybrid do not fold into the floor.

[@jtc1964x]

Chrysler should note that 300C's 160mph top speed is electronically limited. My old 06 Charger SRT8 with the 6.1 did 173 drag limited

[@inconspicuous7464]

21:32 You missed the MC20 behind the GranTurismo

[@ritardstrength5169]

Alfa Romeo: Imagine the reliability of a car that is not only a CHRYSLER, but also ITALIAN

[@normaluser5755]

Alfa Romeo has nothing to do with inferior Chrysler products. It was Chrysler that was bought by Fiat, not the other way around.

[@emilianocruz11]

About a video story of the 1995 chrysler Atlantic concept and the v12 1998 chrysler concept

[@larrywoods2304]

Now I'm a Dodge guy 😎 but in my heart ❤️ i made room for 2 Alfa Romeo and Maserati because I don't have a big heart for foreign auto makers hahaha 😆

[@kenik2023]

Made by the same company you'd be surprised at the parts they share👀

[@larrywoods2304]

Yeah I know that's why I chosen them 02 😁

[@IamAlexander2.0s]

I was there on the same days as u were lmao

[@MarspeedCars]

You probably saw me filming around the Stellantis section then 😅

[@harrybaulz666]

Stellantis highlites hahahaha

[@michaelcoffey7362]

Cool 😀

[@koncha0422]

$84,000 for a 392 is crazy ☠️ With that money you can easily buy a hellcat.

[@stevesmith6236]

Not a "super bee " logo, it's an "angry bee" logo.

[@brucebeamon5460]

I am THOROUGHLY UPSET that Stallantis did NOT bring the RAM DAKOTA or the RAMPAGE to this show …That’s the MAIN REASON I went …. I WILL be buying preferably if either comes in an EXTENDED CAB that it’s competitors have dropped from there lineup

[@venuesurfamerica9840]

...the Tonale shares the same platform "(and virtually every other part)" with the Dodge Hornet.

[@alfreddominguez2750]

Security guards and cops drive Charger. It's no coincidence they stopped to look at the purple super bee. I would have liked to see their commercial vehicle lineup since i am considering trading my Ram 1500 for a Promaster next year.

[@jeremiahhall2281]

The paint job for the blue car was only $660.00?!!! It's a crime that if I get paint chips from road debris on the front end of my Taurus, it's almost $3,000.00 alone for black? Thanks for the reviews of the vehicles!!!

[@MarspeedCars]

Stuff like paint or tires from the factory is always much cheaper (I mean they should not even be charging for paint but they know people will pay!) yeah paint is expensive!

[@agentmuzz]

I don't know anyone excited about the vacuum/blender powered Charger Daytona Banshee. Dodge can keep their EVs. I will keep my Hemis.

[@Doc1855]

They go very fast between break downs

[@XGIT]

Can you give us information about the Dodge Viper 🐍

[@craigster1234]

Stellantis/Chrysler have said that they are NOT making the Airflow. "Chrysler's first electric model will not be called Airflow. The future EV will also adopt a different style than the concept. Chrysler CEO Chris Feuell wants to reposition the brand within the Stellantis group."

[@jabberyt]

Except for the Hornet GT, unless Dodge has some reasonably affordable offerings, they'll be out of business soon. Which would be sad.

[@JustinsGarage]

High performance wagons are a missing segment. No clue why they don’t bring back the Magnum. Wagons are more popular now than they were when the magnum died.

[@richierich398]

I still can’t believe the charger and challenger are gone. Is Chrysler still offering the voyager?

[@Mr_57ChargerRT]

@7:28 It's pretty much a scat pack underneath the skin👌@21:35 for $191k the panel gaps are way off and don't match up.

[@MarspeedCars]

I’m really not sure who would spend that kind of money on a Maserati. Pretty much any other brand will give you either better quality, looks, and/or performance for that cost or less

[@dgeo0392]

Great video. I'm just not a fan of the camo console in Durango. Still waiting for a build date on 23 Challenger. Last update was August 16th.

[@mad_man_savage452]

You might be waiting awhile for a update do to the factory works union strike dodge is having

[@dgeo0392]

@@mad_man_savage452 I think you're right. Last year it took 5 months. This year has already been almost 4 and nothing. Oh well. I just hope it doesn't get cancelled I did receive a Vin in June.

[@stevesmith6236]

I have a 2023 Challenger Scat Pack 1320 edition with only 516 original miles for sale, in mint condition.

[@dgeo0392]

@@stevesmith6236 I'll keep you in mind if mine falls through... The dealer has reassured me it should be built. Why are you selling? I got a 22 Charger Scat Pack Widebody (it was a year old in July) last year with 1800 miles, no plans to sell.

[@stevesmith6236]

I'm 68 and came into some money recently and always wanted a Scat Pack. Since I enjoyed drag racing, I bought a 1320 edition which was on the dealer's lot. First test drive was when I drove it home. Fantastic car but WAY too much power and acceleration for me! Last week I bought a '23 Charger GT with the spunky 3.6 V6 with 300 hp. I am much better suited to this one! Don't need both so, the 1320 has to go. I'm in the Philadelphia , PA area.@@dgeo0392

[@rickytorres4213]

Ok hear me out a new neon 4cyl that runs on E-85 And an all electric prowler...

[@johnr5252]

The hood decal on the Charger Super Bee is hideous on such a beautiful car. Why do that?

[@craigster1234]

It's very sad that the 300, Charger and Challenger are dead.

[@davidchappelle3212]

Who thought it was a good idea at dodge to show up with a bunch of cars that are already sold out, some concept cars that won’t be going on sale and an entry level car.

[@bikebudha01]

Daytona SRT concept. The single best looking Dodge of all time... And.. it comes with AWD, so us northerners can drive it in the winter... Dear lord, please let Dodge make a 'base' version that come in under $40k....

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

The industry can push all theEV’s they want : but “me and everybody I know ,does NOT WANT ONE . ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@Writingman4126]

And where are Stellantis' other cars? Opel, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault et al?

[@DWH300]

I Believe Alfa Romeo could fill the void for either Dodge or Chrysler vehicles. Considering the Alfa vehicles are imports like the Hornet. With a favorable import tax status like Hyundai and Kia. It could be more cost effective while increasing profits If either becomes a replacements or additions to the Dodge brand while it's possible the status of the Chrysler brand could become their luxury and the EV division. Obviously these considerations are best guess possibles, but with the slow release of new drive on the stage Dodge and Chrysler vehicles and with Chrysler being down to only one vehicle, the Pacifica. It just doesn't make sense having two divisions (Dodge and Chrysler) currently manufacturering only 4 total vehicles in the US and one in Italy. I keep waiting to see videos of camo covered Dodge test mules testing on American roads. With the current UAW strike. This will likely push back vehicle development for Stellantis and the Likely delaying of new vehicle development.

[@davidchappelle3212]

I thought the idea of an auto show was to try to sell cars not show off how cool the cars you used to make at dodge.

[@CrFouquet]

Not a fan of any EV car's period. However I have no problem with 3500hp between both hybrid, the ability to gain the most of both possiblities😈

[@cmscms123456]

Ill never go all electric, Id consider a gas electric hybrid. This maybe by Dodge/Chrysler's swan song... or death throw.

[@cmscms123456]

Hornet update, sales are awful, production in italy is slowed, and could be discontinued.

[@MoShugah]

Honestly, you probably could have skipped the Alfa Romeo stuff, and no one here would be upset.

[@robo08ify]

I wish they offered the convertible option for the SXT and GT Challengers as well as the V8 models.

[@shawngivens5350]

The only car that I would buy at that would be the Chrysler 300 because I will never buy a electric car

[@jre617]

Wish you'd stand back and show a straight side-view shot of the newer cars to see the proportions. The "Toenail" and Hornet are FWD platforms (boring transverse engines) with telltale big front overhang, I believe. Pronunciation off slightly: It's Maserati, like MOZerati, not mad or map. It's fascia like face, not like fascist.

[@johnvita5510]

The alfa wheels are nasty, round circles!

[@MarspeedCars]

Nasty good or bad 😂 I have heard mixed opinions but I like em different than anything else on the road

[@bobbycalifornia7077]

2024 Charger Daytona?

[@marvellousmarvin]

The 170 should be made out of carbon fibre 😊

[@NewtownVids]

No disrespect to the 23 chrysler 300c. I wish chrysler would give us a hellcat 300 model & called it the "300c crossfire" to make it luxurious/sporty to complete with the cadillac ct5 v blackwing. As we all know chrysler never made it happen.

[@MarspeedCars]

Even just bring the crossfire back, as a smaller coupe or something. That would be sick. And yes they should have done a 300 Hellcat farewell not the 6.4L, we all know they would have been able to sell literally any amount of them. If 3,000 people bought a 2021 Durango Hellcat, I bet 6,000+ would’ve bought the 300 Hellcat

[@jamesnash1180]

HORNET FRONT FACE REAR WHEEL DRIVE 4 CYL WASE A GOOD FRONT END

[@bonbon1286]

Banshee is cool but still wish there was more info

[@MarspeedCars]

Yup, makes me wonder when they will actually get these out for production and for sale. Have heard very little new info since the August 2022 reveal

[@bonbon1286]

@MarspeedCars yeah true. Honestly I'm just ready for them to do a big reveal on everything ev and hurricane.

[@saurannuraliyev1695]

4:45 too much wheel balancing weights on a new rim and tire though

[@killerontheloose80]

If I wanted to go to a ghost town I'd go to my hometown of Milan Kansas population 56 and or my local Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealer here in Berkeley California nevermind they closed Chrysler Corporation in all their subsidiary in Brands Glory Days was 1951 to 1974 and 1992 to 2006 I rest my case Mopar or no car haters engineering excellence

[@ian2372]

As the hemi goes, so too does the dodge brand. I won't be buying any stellantis product now.

[@justsomeguy1230]

Chrysler needs to be cut. They have nothing to offer as a stand alone brand

[@nyflo718]

The Detroit auto show lost its luster now that everything's ev

[@calikillz714]

The hornet will be a complete flop

[@nothankyou7766]

Kuniskis killed Dodge. R.I.P. MOPAR!

[@jre617]

Stellantis probably hates muscle cars, even though these Dodges have to be hugely profitable. In any case, I think they are eliminating these cars too soon. There's still time for another generation really.

[@johnmalandrino2766]

Its going to be a shame when they go broke for going all electric. How fast they forget why people go to dodge

[@ricokimbro4316]

Why doesn’t stellantis just drop Chrysler ? They have two cars. Just concentrate on dodge and make it a full car line. Keep jeep and ram.

[@Modine.]

I wish Dodge would release pricing for the electric charger.

[@GLA45Amg716]

Sooo no news ? 😂

[@voodoodiecast]

i’m sure mclarens are quicker and faster than the “quickest car in the world” demon170 one trick pos.

[@Doc1855]

What does Consumer Reports and Edmonds say about any and All Stellantis products as far as RELIABILITY? I know, they say to AVOID them at ALL COSTS

[@jre617]

The EV Charger is little boring, generic. It doesn't really evoke a classic Charger much. I'm glad there is still an SRT Durango, but I'm tired of looking at the Durango, and the SRT version is too expensive, especially with that cheap plastic interior. The Grand Cherokee and Durango were platform mates, but apparently, Chrysler plans to dump the Durango eventually, given no new one.

[@sez2429]

A sad day to see the beloved gas powered muscle cars and suv sunset. No disrespect intended for the hornet, but it is a totally different breed and doesn’t do anything for me.

[@Freesavh1776]

I love the look of the new charger. It's the power train I don't like. These lithium batteries are dangerous. And you're not really a damn thing for the environment with ev's. The vast majority of the world power generation is by non renewables. And achieving a pure non pollution electric grid is not going to happen with current technology. So dodge just needs to go ahead and slap the hemi in it, & really nod to the '60's charger.

[@gabrielgomez731]

Drop Chrysler and revive plymouth

[@dodge1515]

That would make little sense. The only thing that would be of any real value would be the Prowler...an electric Prowler?

[@gabrielgomez731]

@@dodge1515 they have way more plymouth roadrunner and cuda and a different model called barracuda and many more

[@The1Karking]

1.3 liter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Vader1957]

You know a company is in trouble when half the cars they bring to the auto show will not be sold in 2024. They better have something in the works. Most cars take 3 years to go to market. To not have things to show is a seriously sad thing.

[@pplebite8844]

Seemed like a waste of time for Stellantis. It's difficult to stay enthused when they really won't share necessary information with their buyers...

[@MrHemikid426]

Why the hell is dodge and chrysler showing 2023 vehicles when this show is for new vehicles for 2024. Guess January's lineup will be the Durango and Chrysler mini van. Stelantis sucks!

[@gabrielgomez731]

I would love to see the ev charger front and rear bumper on a challenger or charger now model

[@MarspeedCars]

It is definitely an amazing looking vehicle. If that thing had a Hemi people would just go nuts for it

[@gabrielgomez731]

@MarspeedCars I wonder what the body line difference is between the ev Charger and current models of charger and challenger

[@shawngivens5350]

These people seem to not understand that once Trump gets back in there he is going to fix this thing with the gas issue and people will stop buying electric vehicles

[@dwightraine9686]

It will be hard for him to do anything when he’s in prison

[@davewoodmancy5124]

Trump's not going to the White House. He's going to the gray bar Motel

[@Modine.]

People are still going to buy electric cars after president Trump is back in the White House.

[@ICStaxx23541]

People still think this man going to win I hope he runs too so he can get two L’s

[@jorgeluiscapiello414]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉

[@nightwolf883]

Nobody wants the Hornet

[@UncleFjester]

Poor Bros and Sistas love it

[@arcticdragon3565]

I just wish that electric charger had a gas engine. Doesn't need to be a v8, I would even take it with a v6 or little 4 cylinder engine, I just want it in gas. There are still many places in the US that has no electric car infrastructure, and some places too cold for electric. Where I live gets -50 F, which will kill electric cars.

[@user-pgchargerse71]

There's been rumors it might get the hurricane inline 6 from the Jeep Wagoneer

[@nibotkram7743]

Buy an Alfa at your peril.

[@whoucallinstupid]

Alfa is no 3 in jd power initial quality. Not sure where your argument is parroted from? Have you ever owned an Alfa?

[@crfrider57]

How many Alfa Romeo or Maserati vehicles have you owned??? We owned a 2017 AR Giulia Ti with no problems. Same year Audi A3 all sorts of big problems. Chevy Colorado lots of problems. We now have a 2021 AR Giulia, no problems. 2022 Stelvio QV, no problems. I love people commenting of this they know nothing about.

[@zolpy]

I think I speak for all of us mopar fans that their secretiveness is getting ridiculous. Same cars at all of the auto shows this year with zero glimpse of what’s to come. No reveals, just more secrets. CDJR lots next year are going to look pathetic with the hornet, Durango and over flow of GT charges no one’s wants. On top of that Jeep can’t sell a damn thing with zero excitement and buzz. Man, we just need something to look forward too. Even if It’s just the IH6

[@evildrizzt1]

They’re probably debating upon if they should answer the challenge of ford’s gtd. You know they want to make a new viper with a boosted V10.