2023 Hyundai Elantra N - The Honda Civic Type R Fighter! (POV Binaural Audio)

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[@TedwardDrives]

The Korean FL5 Fighter! What do you think? Which car would you choose? DCT or Manual?

[@austinobambino1360]

Hmmm can I choose the FL5 handling + gearbox, but the Elantra's soundtrack 🤔

[@vlvt-things]

Manual for sure

[@user-yn2dl2zh2z]

Manual for me... But for someone who buys the DCT... Its pretty decent tho

[@OleMisss]

@@user-yn2dl2zh2z I thought so too till I experienced my buddy’s dct Veloster N. They really did good with the tuning of their dct.

[@lilchvrles]

DCT so my fiancé can drive it too 🤣 This seems like the perfect step up from my ILX

[@scottanthony3426]

10K cheaper than the MSRP Type R is only part of the story. It is really difficult to even find a Type R in my region, and I'm hearing about outrageous mark-ups at the stealerships. On the other hand, my closest Hyundai dealer had 3-4 of these on the lot, and was showing pretty close to MSRP. One color was about 1K more for some reason (everything else looked similarly equipped.) Great that both these cars exist.

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

They previously didn't charge extra for colors on Elantra (any trim), but some colors are now an extra charge...both white and performance blue for 23 are $400 more so that's possibly why one was more.

[@Solanstusx]

Yeah there are zero optional features for the EN, just color and transmission. Big respect for them saying “we know what we want this car to be”

[@Drive.Nation]

I don’t know where you are at. But my local Hyundai dealership had a couple of these and I was really interested in buying one but after a test drive and about to work on buying it they told me there was a 10,000$ “market adjustment” and they had it listed everywhere online at the msrp price.

[@BlueFL5]

The question is, how much will the EN depreciate in comparison to the CTR? CTRs are selling for over MSRP still despite being 5+ years old.

[@vjdfl5]

@@BostonT_ I believe it. My dealer did the same exact thing to me when I went to get mine. Had it all marked at MSRP and when we went to sit down do do financing they were asking 45k for the car

[@muthukumaranc]

I like that Tedward is very detailed and thorough with his reviews, both the critical side and the pros. I get a lot of insight that traditional reviews cannot give.

[@mistamaog]

We definitely know the Type R is better, but I don't think it's $10k+ better

[@NoName-ws1uq]

Says you 😂 $10k less and the only thing I see worse is dealing with the dealerships. Around Same hp and sounds better too…

[@johndoe3485]

Damn 👍

[@lateral-g8847]

EXACTLY

[@TheIndianHyundaiLover]

Type R is TRASH😊

[@devn3813]

More like $30,000. I got my brand new DCT N for 33,500. A type R out the door will be 60k now.

[@RichJord0331]

I’m a Volkswagen fanboy, first car was a 1.4t Jetta, currently own a 1.8t 2015 Jetta. I’m looking to get a brand new car either spring, or beginning of summer in 2024 (currently going through breakup and transitioning to owning the apartment on my own so need to sort out finances) and this car is that car. I was torn between the GLI, and the golf R. For literally close to $10,000 less than its competitors, you get a better sounding, more features, crazy beautiful build quality, beautiful infotainment system and gauge cluster, the illuminated N’s in the seats is just wild, and this car is just awesome all around.

[@jk.photoz2079]

In the same exact boat my friend.

[@DarkMikaruX]

Funny that I just stumbled upon this video as I just came back from the car wash, sat for a minute and thought. I really love my Elantra N, coming from a Tuned 2.0 Genesis Coupe... it was the logical successor. Room for people and things, Quick, Fun, Practical car. Fits into daily life perfectly.

[@andylaguna839]

I’ve got a 2021 Veloster N and love it so much. For what it is, it’s a fantastic car.

[@EpicNinjaRides]

SRT-4 had a mechanical LSD in 04-05. Still one of my favorite FWD cars of all time. Stock exhaust sounded great, great front seats, factory stage upgrades and you could literally take 95% of the car apart with a 10mm socket lol.

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

oh great, so you had to have about 3 dozen 10mm on hand for when you lose them....

[@MrManuel1329]

My buddy has two of them always tinkering and tuning his car. Those car are really simple to pull apart and put back together and also pack a punch when it comes to power.

[@mikhailSRT4]

Agree 100%

[@trionic5]

My Saab can be entirely disassembled with a Torx screwdriver set and it makes more power than the Elantra N 😂

[@mikhailSRT4]

@@trionic5 not even close buddy. You have a Chevy motor in there hope you know that

[@michaelkoch603]

Haven’t had the luxury of driving any type R but I can just imagine how great they are. I ended up purchasing a 2023 elantra N dct due to budget and the option of an automatic(I love dual clutches). I agree the type R is ahead in a few categories but I think saving 10k and then putting that money into the elantra N will put it right up there with the FL5. Surprisingly your biggest issue is my favorite thing about the car, the steering weight is so nice.

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

Haven’t driven the N but I had a feeling when he said it was heavy….my thought was…”I’ll bet it’s perfect for me.” Lol

[@buddyholleypoint9032]

Big problem is, that he had lane keep assist on. He couldn't really tell what the steering felt like, although it is a bit heavy. I love my DCT EN though

[@xXYannuschXx]

The best thing is, the heaviness doesnt feel artificial. There isnt that much feedback from the road, but the weight gives you a really good feel how much grip you still got. In a lot of other cars (especially VAGs) the heaviness often just feels dampened and doesnt give you any feel for the grip level.

[@Rururu-ci5dl]

Does the acceleration of the dct Elantra N really push you back into the seat?

[@commentmancommentman1658]

They are closer than you think. Type r and elantra N tracks times are like a very close (like .5 to 1 second for the type R)

[@MTechn1k]

Love the drive. I bought one of these at the end of January and I couldn't agree more. It is a very enjoyable and engaging car to drive. Even without the manual transmission. It was a nice replacement for my Focus ST.

[@n-power-automotive]

Can’t believe this is your first time getting your hands on an EN! I’m glad you finally got to experience one, especially the DCT, since like you said, it’s almost not fair to compare any other manual to a Honda CTR manual. I’ve had my 22 Elantra N DCT for 8 months and 13k miles. It’s been amazing. I downsized to 18” wheels with DWS06+ tires and installed a $40 engine bushing and with just those changes I ran a 12.9 @ 110mph 1/4 mile. The car is an absolute beast for $35,000. And you nailed it on the head when you said it evokes feelings of the Dodge Neon SRT4. I test drove one of those when they first came out. I was a poor college kid and could swing the gasp almost $25,000 asking price ha ha. But I loved the sensations that thing had, and as soon as I got in the EN I instantly time traveled back to that test drive and thought wow, this is just a more modern, grown up version of that car, which is a great thing. As far as the steering goes, yes, it’s heavy but you can customize it in the custom N settings, which I turn down to normal as well as the suspension, so you get the burbles and pops but smooth ride and easy steering. As always, love your POV drives and commentary!

[@Jszul2318]

whatd the wheel setup cost? i hate the stock wheels- had 2 blowouts already at 10k miles

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Jszul2318 the package was just a hair over 2k from Tire Rack.

[@Jszul2318]

@@n-power-automotive damn i can't swing that rn but i do wanna go to the strip, did u lose launch control

[@theoutsider1020]

I just bought the exact same car three weeks ago. Same color and everything. I love it!

[@harrisontabor3335]

Always love watching tedward for my car reviews. Always concise. A cool fact I would like to tell is that the Elantra N has been found to be massively underrated in power! Dynos have found that it makes 276 hp to the WHEELS! Makes it a much better Type R comp no?

[@ShaiyanHossain]

I mean the type r is also underrated lol

[@gotworc]

@@ShaiyanHossain no its not wtf are you talking about if anything the type r is overrated by a lot of people

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@gotworc im talking about power. Type R is said to makw 300hp. Its making that at the wheels

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

Honestly not surprising with the way BMW underrates their cars.

[@vishnuhalikere6213]

I've been waiting for you to drive this car!!! ❤❤❤❤ always curious about what your thoughts on this were. Hope you get to drive the manual soon!!!

[@jrzeger]

Love how unbiased you are considering you have a type r🦕🦕

[@Stevie4171]

BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DRIVE THIS!!!!!

[@jish8681]

i saw this in person for the first time today. the blue color is beautiful and it sounds amazing. I'm so glad that there are more cars in this segment now

[@danielbrown1419]

I've been waiting for this video for a while now😀.

[@peterjazii6925]

Thanks for saying that this car and type are different. They definitely have different characteristics. I’m glad there’s a boy racer car like this. The industry needs it.

[@DemoniqueLewis]

Thanks for the video, considering getting one of these.

[@slasheerr946]

You haven't even felt the high boost setting in Elantra where you drive it for 10 mins going 65 and it gives you more boost, and that makes this even faster. It's in the manual booklet of the car, you can read it, it's called octane learning. Great video brother! Enjoyed it and was looking forward for you to drive this one! And I'm not upset that you didn't know about the Octane learning, I understand that its not your car, I'm just saying, if you think it's quick with 15psi, you haven't felt it with more boost after the car recognises that you're using high octane fuel!! Great video!!

[@TedwardDrives]

I really dislike gimmicks like the button that engages high boost. It should always have it.

[@mdye.04]

@@TedwardDrives I’m pretty sure they have it so they can keep the 100K mile warranty without people blowing up their engines. Still a lil temperamental engine. If they could get away with it, they would.

[@EyeDoctorJoe]

@@TedwardDrives Not a gimmic really. The ECU just has to learn what octane you have so it doesn’t blow up. My kona N does it too

[@JedemPoKucama]

@@EyeDoctorJoe yeah right,it would blow up because of pump gas minor difference

[@Specialist7]

@@TedwardDrives by default the car does 15psi, what hes talking about with octane learning is after you drive it for a while it will sense you're using higher fuel albeit 93+ and it may give you 16+ psi people have seen 19-20psi that will give you more than the 276hp on paper spec... the NGS button is totally different in which it will give you +10hp for a short amount of time or rather an insta sport+ to give you passing power then back to your eco/normal mode if you use it for that, there is a cool down for it so you can use it again later and when temps are lower, once you tune it and such it does become kinda useless button. One thing to add is under N Custom you can dial down steering and suspension if you dont want it as stiff yet still responsive along with less bouncing in your seat.

[@jwong_n]

I’m about to do a POV drive tuned Elantra N 👀, it’s so much faster than stock. Love the review though! Keep it up.

[@nicolasa.3192]

My solemn opinion is that this is a great car So long as hyundai has figured out their direct injection stuff and this thing won't brick in 40k miles

[@juanbenavides1722]

Great content! Just got a new subscriber😎

[@MatthewGaither]

I like these. They are a little bit of a sleeper. The price to performance ratio is quite good!

[@30hours51]

they dont' look too sleeper, they looked riced imo, even thought it is not riced

[@laxislife143]

Sonata n is the real sleeper

[@psewgobind]

When on the power, you get German/American muscle (instead of Japanese hot-hatch vibes). Amazing that Bierman didn't require generations of development. EN is as special as GR Corolla and we have to thank the old-school passion that brought it to us. Type-R and GR86 is more of the same, while Supra is a better manufactured and tuned BMW.

[@Mike-rk8px]

It’s amazing how far Hyundai has come in a rather short time. There was a time when there’s no way in hell that I would want one. Hopefully they will put out a real 2 door sports car with a real manual transmission.

[@RotaryLover]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the JCW clubman. It's their last year and I rarely hear about it but I feel it can be a good competitor.

[@known3617]

Very impressed with this cars pops and cracks during normal driving. Cold start this sounds 100% identical to a BMW 3/4 series B48 with the exhaust valves open.

[@edalder2000]

I am fascinated that The Elantra N can be either sedate commuter or fire breathing. The N is more luxurious and day to day comfy. The Type R is performance focused at its core. Tedward, I hope that your Type R did not get jealous.

[@BlueFL5]

You can say the type r’s interior is pretty luxurious. Best seats on the market, alcantara everywhere, barely any cheap hard plastics, etc.

[@inspectorfegit7932]

I got my brand new I30 N Performance (same engine with manual transmission) a week ago and I am absolutely in love. Its a real bang for your buck, beats a Golf GTI in almost every way and is almost 20k Euros cheaper. Hyundai just made one of the biggest comebacks in the car industry of all time in my opinion.

[@kubek555]

the problem is fuel consumption which is properly horrible

[@inspectorfegit7932]

@@kubek555 around 26 MPG

[@hhaste]

@@kubek555 26mpg is not horrible at all for a performance based car..

[@pppcorn]

the engine wears like the others, dct issues too. vw is crap as well

[@inspectorfegit7932]

@@pppcorn Well every Hyundai comes with a 5 year warranty . Also from what I've heard these cars are very solid.

[@Fake2JZ]

Exhaust sounds great

[@G0ddEityawesome]

Let’s be honest if one is not biased against Hyundai, this Elantra type N hands down is a better overall car than any of its competitors including the civic type r

[@static7985]

not reliability wise

[@G0ddEityawesome]

@@static7985 there can be reliability issues with any car depending if you get lucky or not. Tbh almost no one keeps these cars more than five years anyways

[@R19Robbin]

Hyundai did a great job on the interior

[@wyattllc]

you can adjust the steering weight in the settings for custom n mode

[@crescent_rose__]

was waiting for your take on it

[@dododede875]

Will be buying this with new look for 2024 version. Been eyeing on this for about 2 years!

[@porfiriato84]

What color are you getting? I'm between this and the 24 G70 😁

[@dododede875]

@@porfiriato84 Probably Cyber Grey. G70 looks amazing too. My friend has it and definitely a luxury looking car.

[@MoneyShift]

I recently just cancelled my M2 purchase in favor of saving some money (given the consistent financial doom) and went Kona N.....and I DO NOT regret it. While the M2 is a tremendous machine, and well worth the money, the amount of value that Hyundai packs into their N cars is immense. They are callbacks to the spicy hot hatches of old, and come in at a great price point. Couldn't be happier. Another BANGER from Tedward.

[@Armin-dl8db]

How has the Kona N been after owning it for a bit? Any issues?

[@Soul_Flow_]

amazing car

[@anjr9915]

Hyundai's have improved a lot

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

Serious props to Hyundai! I was driving in the canyons this morning with my Cayman and this dude had no problem on broad sweeping turns i had to push my car a little to catch up to him and i was like, holy smokes that an Elantra??!!! Congrats on the new whip!

[@tuffykt]

Love my EN! More room than my Challenger had, and in a smaller package 🤯

[@jdmteggy2388]

all u would need is tune this is awsome as is for price

[@realaveragegamer3053]

Literally was torn between the 22 volester n and 22 wrx. I realized the elantra n prett6 replaced the volester but I I wish the elantra body style was a bit more reserved. Those sharp lines make it so extra. Could be a great addition to the car scene.

[@hatedd7773]

Sure, call me cheap or poor, whatever. However, for the price point to performance I see this car as being an absolute gem! As much as I love the type R and its styling, I just CANNOT justify spending an additional 10k + more for markup for a car in which I can have a similar experience in such as the N series of cars being produced by Hyundai right now, I prefer the looks of the Veloster over the Elantra, but still it's an excellent little car! If the Type R is a 10/10 driving experience, then I'd consider the N series a 9-9.5. They're super duper fun to drive, and I've yet to meet someone who has regretted their purchases of the cars, also if you've a Veloster, they are excellent conversation pieces since they're pretty unique in their own sense.

[@CelerySlayer77]

I had one (Now in a WRX). I LOVED this car. The sound is 80% of the experience and it makes it such a blast. It is quick, loud and rowdy. I would've gotten another one (Performance Blue) but the insurance people robbed me and I barely got enough to cover the loss.

[@mistamaog]

You had one but got rid of it after a year? Also what did the insurance people do to rob you?

[@billbigshlong382]

Sounds like it was a total loss and the insurance company paid him out, but screwed him over with settlement.

[@tuffykt]

😢Gap insurance is key

[@AndrewTPewPew]

Is there a reason you went with a wrx when replacing it?

[@melmorales7447]

Just placed my order for a 2024 manual, so excited!!!!

[@vjdfl5]

Such a fun car! I ended up trading mine for a CTR, but you really can't go wrong w either, depending on your budget

[@TheFrog767]

It certainly gets along 🍻

[@TheFrog767]

I like it a lot 👏👏👏

[@MK3504]

Sport + steering is way too hefty..I like to leave it on normal and everything else up. Works really well

[@gameonyolo1]

Have u driven old mechanical steering beemers?

[@CarsUncovered]

I'm actively trying to enjoy my N DCT...Bought one 3 weeks ago after selling my GT350R hoping to have a fun daily., I had 0 expectations it would replace that car, but I still struggle to find the driving experience engaging. It's objectively a good car, but it doesn't tingle the senses like I was hoping, and I've yet to wake up and just take it out for a drive. More than likely listing it soon.

[@CrystalNinja07]

That's a shame. Why is that? Have you listed it?

[@CarsUncovered]

@@CrystalNinja07yes, it's up for sale

[@Symphoniics]

@@CarsUncoveredMy gosh. I think that speaks more about your GT350R than the Elantra N. The EN is objectively one of the most fun and engaging cars on the market right now-period-so that GT350R must be a piece of seriously incredible machinery 😅

[@hyundongcho4328]

I swear I was thinking about this car yesterday...

[@keytel1]

lol i used to work for that dealership. these cars are great

[@kitezh2197]

In the manual it does state a 600 mile brake in period is necessary

[@porfiriato84]

Seems like the '24 model will have a more subdued front end which would help it's looks. I might just get me a 24 DCT even though I'm a manual guy

[@imafartudown]

I wouldn't be surprised if they skip a model year with the N. happens quite often when there's a refresh.

[@porfiriato84]

​@@imafartudownwait what are you talking about? They're not skipping anything.

[@dougroblox3189]

I might actually get the hyundai, i've been considering between both of these but I think i'm going to stay loyal to hyundai and get the 2023 Elantra N this year.

[@tuffykt]

You won't regret it

[@wanshafiw6487]

perfect getaway car, no doubt

[@28Horsepower]

They're nice ngl Id get one in dark blue.

[@sethkang4410]

youre a savage. wearing a hoodie on a cold weather and ac is on.

[@PatientXero607]

Does it feel light in the rear end, and does it tend to dance if you hit any bumps? This has been the bane of the Hyundai/KIA for the longest time.

[@Jerpy]

wish we got these in the uk!

[@patryka2351]

to be honest, i’d rather have the i20N or i30N

[@ShaiyanHossain]

Find me an i30N and ill get one of these for you 😂

[@andrewb325]

This thing is legit.

[@jeo33466]

Makes me miss my Veloster N!

[@freshMila]

Nice ! Thanks for sharing. I just wanted to beat type R .. more horses power pls hondai

[@tyhyhh]

im actually looking at getting a kona n/elantra n because of the dct since the next car i get my gf wants me to pass on to her to replace her car and she doesnt wanna drive stick its really the only auto car i would consider buying i really couldnt see myself in a gti or gli either

[@saucyp123]

One of my favorite cost cuts in this car is that they didn't even include a 60/40 split folding rear seat. The backrest for all three seats folds down at once, so all the rear seats cannot be used if you need to haul a long item. Of course, you've got the bracing to reckon with anyway, but it's still a funny detail to me

[@TedwardDrives]

now theres a deep cut I missed!

[@vettetrax]

You will have to do the 6-speed review and include it there!

[@stevecphotos]

Great vid! I still don't know why the $40K+ Genesis G70 base engine is also a 2.0L turbo, but makes much less power than the Elantra N.

[@kingsamvisuals]

Maybe it's tuned for smoothness. It's not a racecar

[@stevecphotos]

@@kingsamvisuals Don't totally disagree, but in CR's test it was almost 8 seconds 0-60. I know that test isn't the most important but it's competitors do much better in that price range.

[@Bocolatebip]

I agree that it should be more powerful but the interiors in the g70’s are insanely nice

[@canadianaviator]

It’s a different engine entirely

[@orangefirepearlfb6]

Watching now. Hey that's where u got the Si,ofc...at HONDA lol

[@MegaGoldring]

It would be really interesting to see you compare this in a manual to your Type R

[@mitchellsteindler]

If the Kona N had the awd system from my cx30, I may have gone for it over my cx30. I wana drift in thr snow and on wet roads!

[@anthonykiedis1765]

That GTI was probably flooring it as the Elantra N casually passed it.

[@motormusique]

Hey Tedward, how's the ride on these things, pretty rough or tolerable?

[@Tman450]

If Hyundai didn't have extremely atrocious dealerships near me and I had a local shop that specialized in Hyundais, I would consider this car.

[@porfiriato84]

You can like.... Drive further for one? Don't be lazy

[@briancox8422]

Where were you driving this? That's a nice ribbon.

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

Amazing cute spicy Hyundai :3 woohoo ❤

[@manzelli1981]

I know those sideroads very well (family from that town) and the road conditions are truly terrible. How would you rate the your overall comfort/soreness going through that area, knowing how stiff the Elantra N is?

[@tuffykt]

No sweat. I have an Elantra N and live in the area. I do prefer to keep the custom suspension setting at normal however, sport and sport+ are too stiff for all our potholes. 😤 The seats are incredibly supportive too, and weren't subject to recall like the type R😂

[@davidclausner8220]

Way to many options to adjust everything I just got my elNTRA N. 5 days still figuring out new things. Mind ya I haven't opened a manual yet. Just playing with it. I love the car. Draws the right amount of attention. Can sorta blend in. My fist auto car. I love this transmission.

[@micameikwan9718]

Everything about the Elantra N is so cool except for the way it looks 😭😭

[@nmode22]

More like 15k to 20k off since the type R is 5 to 10k over msrp. ❤️. Elantra N wins this match all day.

[@EddieFly00]

Hyundai has come a LOOOONG way since the Tiburan and the old Veloster.

[@EyeDoctorJoe]

love my kona N, it’s honestly more fun to drive than the EN sometimes lol

[@TedwardDrives]

I actually think I prefer the Kona as well

[@69Vide0S]

Its not a bad car.. Hyundai have pretty nice cars

[@sledgedragon2677]

Steering weight can be changed in settings.

[@Cynthesis21]

DCT for the commuters Manual for the driving enthusiasts

[@sandiegoavgeek6]

DCTs NEED to be offered with cars like this.. Honda and Ford both majorly missed the mark refusing to do so

[@dexcoon]

I'm so tempted by these because they basically have everything I would want out of the box, with no mods. But Hyundai reliability scares me, I have 2 friends with Veloster N's that have had catastrophic engine failure, and that makes me nervous. Still have a bad taste in my mouth from being a mechanic and seeing countless GDI engines grenade themselves.

[@hewasdeadwhenigotthere46]

Yuppp they also have oil dilution problems or at least did with their direct injection

[@computerguy5437]

Same

[@jdmteggy2388]

every car is gnna have somthing my bbuddy had evo x with 20k miles stock and it blew but 4b11 is great motor elentra n is good car reliable

[@optigoop]

As an Elantra N owner, I’ve been waiting for the day Tedward gets his hands on one 🥰

[@curtsuneson6161]

Struggling between this and a new GLI. Both are within my budget. I kind of like the styling of the exterior and the interior better on the GLI but I know this Elantra N has it been performance-wise at least on paper. And it sounds fantastic! I would be getting the dual clutch in either one. Anyone have experienced driving both or have any opinions on this? It's a tough decision

[@sinjinkincaid]

I have 2022 gli and honestly I’m thinking abt getting rid of it for this. I know vw does better interiors but as far as sound, performance, and even exterior goes the EN just kind of does it for me personally

[@makepoop1225]

currently have a 21 6 speed gli and im planning on getting either an elantra n or kona n. I love my gli buy got tired of driving stick in traffic. If you want a more mature car go for the gli, if you want something more performance oriented get the elantra.

[@trinisaif]

stg if they put an i6 in the sonata N then i will fall in love even more with hyundai.

[@porfiriato84]

There is no Sonata N. Only N line

[@bugrakagan2763]

The cosmetic aspect is just not for me, but the i30N is just 👌especially a red one.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

Im a honda guy through and through but if the i30N was available here id have one already

[@bugrakagan2763]

@@ShaiyanHossain same here, i20N gets produced here in Turkey, but i30N didnt make it here. I would buy one without a second thought

[@taemeister9302]

Elantra N DCT > Type R 👌

[@Paws403]

it'd be interesting to compare the Elantra N to the BMW M235i gran coupe (heresy I know) based off of you saying the N feels more BMW than Hyundai.

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

So I have to ask then...would the GLI and the N be more comparable? I mean mostly from a cost standpoint and the fact they are both sedans. In that case, what would be the choice? The N is no doubt going to be faster and be more track prepared when looking at stock vs stock...but the power thing can be addressed with just a tune on the VW...so not looking at speed, how do the N and GLI compare from a daily livable standpoint?

[@youcangetsum6871]

I’ve never rode in a gli but the Jetta I think the gli will be more comfortable daily but any of the N’s are gonna be more fun tbh depends if U wanna sacrifice a good time for comfort.

[@Mike.Macmyazka]

There's no sacrificing a good time for comfort...a good time to you means something very different to me most likely. I can have a ton of fun in a stock engine, chassis modified Chevy Cruze that may be slow as shit, but will handle and take corners like it's on rails. That's irrelevant to my question. I will rephrase it because I made two comments into one question...my first question was from a cost standpoint, do the N and GLI compare at all because they're similarly priced vs a $10k like the N and Type R. Second. From a daily standpoint, I'm sure the GLI would be just fine. That can be modified in numerous ways to be able to have the power or the handling that I might be looking for. I guess the question I'm looking to answer is would the Elantra N be suitable for daily driving in MN especially with shit roads? Would it be comfortable enough? Or in my case, should I be looking at an N Line because that will be more comfortable. I can upgrade some stuff on that but I will never have the rawness of the N.

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@Mike.Macmyazka I’m js the N’s out the box don’t need anything just the easy way to go but the interior and the trans is way better the gli may be more tuneable more comfortable and I think it looks better than the Elantra too, you could do all the necessary upgrades to make it a corner carver but that’s up to u if u wanna spend the time and money on the parts just have to test drive both n pick.

[@MisterChips]

While I have no doubt that it's a great car, Hyundai's dealer experience leaves a lot to be desired. Around where I live in Canada, Hyundai dealers are by far the worst-regarded for customer satisfaction...and you can't downplay how important that is in the overall experience of buying and running a new car. They really, desperately need corporate to come in and clean up their act.

[@LoXHumaN]

They suck here in Southern California as well

[@Chr1sT0fu]

May I ask where in Canada you live? I'm in Toronto and looking to get an N soon

[@MisterChips]

@@Chr1sT0fuOut west.

[@shamalabadingdong]

The comment about the brakes was a bit of a miss. Realistically, it doesn't matter that much if you have brembo 20 piston brakes or simple 1 piston brakes, both are going to be able to provide enough force to lock up the tires and engage abs. The difference is mainly that the type r comes with significantly wider tires. Not that brakes aren't important, but "better" brakes will be able to manage heat better, not necessarily make you brake harder. The most important part about braking is how traction limited you are with your tires. With wider tires, the type r just has more grip to work with. In fact, the Elantra N actually comes with bigger brake rotors than the type r, with brake ducts and plenty of engineering to make their brake system track capable. The car isn't braking worse because Hyundai put less work into their brakes, even if their brakes were worse it wouldn't matter because the tires are ultimately the "bottleneck". I would imagine Hondas tuning of the break pedal to be better though honestly

[@FL50ssp]

So true and well said. Not surprised by his comments though, just more of the same lack of knowledge and or understanding. Take for instance his LSD comment... N cars have eLSD which is much different and more capable than a mechanical LSD like ctr comes with. The problem is the cult followers take what these talking heads say as truth. And then spread the erroneous info as fact.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

I really want to like this car, but that styling just turns me off. Given how hard it is to find an FL5 for me at msrp, Id love to own one, I just find it hard to spend this much on something i don't want to look at. It just makes me wish the i20N and i30N hatchbacks were available stateside haha, would definitely have one of those

[@jciarkowski3109]

I ended up getting a Veloster N a few months back but it would've been great to see the I30N and I20N, the I20 is literally just a turbocharged accent so I think that's pretty funny

[@operationgetthugs232]

Golf has better styling?

[@rogermckenzie588]

Lol sewing machine lol, you funny 😂

[@MK3504]

It would be fair if you were able to give it the beans and have NGS. Rotors are larger on the EN among a few thing, you're underselling the EN's track capabilities. It is realistic to compare these before you have 15-20K markups. EN is as similar to the CTR as dissimilar but their delta is close enough you should compare them. next time I would love to see a broken in EN at full send

[@TedwardDrives]

I'm just telling you what I felt. Definitely not underselling it at all. It's a great package. Its just not ground breaking in terms of feeling

[@MK3504]

@@TedwardDrives I haven't driven an FL5 but with the FK8 I never felt that the steering feel was all that special in the first place. I think most would agree that the Sport+ is overboosted beyond belief. I may need to drive the new CTR just to feel how special it is. Cheers 🥂

[@PseudoWombat]

Do you guys think these are better, or the Camry TRD? I hardly ever see comparisons on the Camry

[@porfiriato84]

LMAO

[@samrastagar8554]

Lol because they aren’t even comparable

[@samrastagar8554]

The Camry TRD is very reliable but it’s outdated and doesn’t even have basic features (heated seats, sun/moon roof, etc) with subpar performance in its class. The Accord 2.0T is better

[@spicysnowman8886]

The camry trd is just a camry with a visual package, its not sporty.

[@robertshetsen8691]

Did you like it better than wrx 23 with manual

[@mikimenendez]

EN is faster stock, but the WRX is much better for a long term use (more reliable). WRX AWD vs EN FWD. A stage 1 WRX gaps the EN, still being more reliable, so, if you can, go for the Subaru, overall better and still, super fun.