2023 Jeep Wagoneer Series II Hurricane 6 Off-Road Review

Ryan gets behind the wheel of the 2023 Jeep Wagoneer Series II to see if this big and expensive SUV has what it takes to conquer our Mountain Test Hill.
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[@glennriley5379]

I have a series 1 with the 5.7 V8. I love this jeep. Haven’t met anything that has been an issue yet. My most expensive car purchase so far, and by far the best car I’ve owned

[@YY-ij7pq]

Wow 😲 I’ve never seen car reviews KZbin Chanel taking it so seriously. Brought even excavator to make a trench to do off- road test drive 🎉it’s so f@ckin3 cool what you do ❤ I’m impressed !! And awesome test drive 👌thank you

[@collinbooker]

Wish they would put one of these in a wrangler :( I’d buy one in a heart beat. Wranglers deserve an in-line 6😤

[@forrest225]

I would be surprised if the wrangler doesn’t get the hurricane next refresh.

[@joemartino6976]

Thanks for the review. Still, I can't quite wrap my head around the idea of seriously off-roading a $100K+ vehicle. I suspect that price point has become an obstacle at the dealer as well. The Jeep dealer near me is overflowing with inventory, including lots of Wagoneers.

[@LongIslandMopars]

I’m waiting for the $20k discounts and then maybe I’ll consider one. Jeep got greedy and full of themselves (they were also late to the party with these vehicles). Dealers will be stuck with them. I almost never see one on the roads around here.

[@trenton.tchannel1810]

Probably a lot of markups honestly. I’ve been seeing more and more wagoneers on the road lately

[@qwikz28]

​@@trenton.tchannel1810we went to look at one to trade in our Grand Cherokee L in December. My wife loves these things although I'm partial to the Tahoe/Yukon. They were ready to put about $7500 on the hood of the Wagoneer to get me to take it but they wouldn't take my car for a reasonable trade because of an open recall. In hindsight, I'm glad they didn't.

[@moloono1]

Jeep has been trying to move up-market. I don’t think it’s working since their dealerships are overflowing with unsold stock.

[@Neberheim]

Probably depends where you are. I was in Whitefish, MT last weekend and I saw three Wagoneers and a Grand Wagoneer in the span of two hours. Which might explain why I can’t afford to live there.

[@jfdoherty3448]

I really enjoy your videos!! Thanks for the hard work and great production 😊

[@vedder10]

Always quality videos from this channel. I love my Subaru and don't need an off-roader but I've always loved the styling and idea of owning a Jeep. The design and features are so attractive.

[@jameso6404]

Excellent channel. Real trail tests. Very unbiased. Keep up the good work.

[@fourdoorexpeditioner1570]

Would love to see 2023 Nissan Armada driven on the same course

[@martinbelisle4961]

Trucks and SUVs with smaller wheels looks so much better!

[@TobyCostaRica]

9:23 Saddened the special guest wasn’t Karlenna making a cameo 😔😀

[@normanrabbitlee]

Thank you it is a good review.

[@ramborob9777]

Best car channel on KZbin.

[@ugottabekiddin_]

Great video!

[@slandshark]

@driving sports TV I can officially say I found your old offroad testing grounds off i90 and FSR 9020 (turning onto FSR 9021). Took our 2023 Subaru Ascent up there looking for the Truck Summit Lookout last weekend. It's appeared to be a lot rockier than I remember from your videos, probably from water run-off. Really nice place to drive around though and despite the warm weather we found a puddle and got ourselves muddy! :)

[@drivingsports]

Great to hear! It always looks easier in the videos. At least a year ago the forest there was flagged for logging. But they're certainly in no hurry.

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

This review is an example of reliable and advanced technonology for customers who required enjoy a product like this.

[@abufarhaz2306]

Hello from Pure Michigan! It's fascinating to know that the plant where this was built is situated right next to my home.

You are a very good KZbinr.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Ryan, Did you consider bringing the chickens to this course just for the sake of consistency? 😉😂

[@drivingsports]

Lol

[@sirbarricada]

excelente video. tengo una wagoneer limited 1988 4.0 litros xj podrias hacer un video de conduccion 4x4 en un modelo equipado con selectrac gracias

[@MrZaneBundy]

Any thoughts on the Wagoneer vs a Tahoe? Eastern WA driving with plenty of Forrest service road driving

[@alexblankenship7385]

Does anyone know if the base series 1 has air suspension or not? I worry about the durability of air suspension setups..

[@Kiss__Kiss]

Very impressive for this behemoth(Especially with the mediocre tires). Can't remember if you mentioned this, Ryan but, Does this have a TORSEN center diff?

[@drivingsports]

It does not. It instead has a clutch to engage and disengage the transfer case for "auto" 4WD.

[@Kiss__Kiss]

@@drivingsports Ahh Thank You!! Knowing that, I think it did remarkably well.

[@frankchen7412]

If you still have the VIN of your test Jeep Wagoneer, there is a way to find the build spec and/or Mulroney/window sticker info.

[@stephencannon3140]

Thanks for the off road reports…..I am slightly different in my philosophy of 4X4……I didn’t spend $90K to go off road…gravel driveway is about as far off road as I plan to get. I use the 4X4 to try to stay on the road.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

was looking for one with the advanced off road package, no dealers order it or the hd tow package both get the 2 speed transfer case and 3.92 axle

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Inventory is overflowing at my local Jeep dealer. Full of Wagoneers. All the same depressing black interior, gray, white or black exterior. No 4x4, no tow packages, no individuality. I suspect massive incentives will be forthcoming as dealers are sounding the alarms that the prices are too high and demand is too low.

[@bruceevans8837]

I had to order one, there were none on dealer lots in the USA at the time, which was fine because I order what I want anyway.

[@fernandoloboarias]

Thanks for the review! It’s very surprising when you watch videos from Australia where they compare different vehicles of the same categories, Jeep luxury cars always fall in last place; the excessive weight vs power, the lack of suspension flexibility since none of these cars have solid axels anymore and yet others like Land Rover or Mercedes with similar suspension are more capable and achieve the obstacles with less difficulty, Jeeps look rigid and unable, for sure bringing the Jeep reputation down.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Too bad you can't buy those mercedes here, or the capable land cruisers

[@sflscott11]

I love your stuff... and only out of curiosity did I watch this particular video as what I learned about this vehicle is pointless..... $80,000 $80,000 $80,000 $80,000 $80,000 $80,000

[@shakurjones7626]

But I “THINKKK” great video

[@davidmontalvoseo]

car is a beast!

[@wildbill23c]

Good grief, all those nonsense sensors that prevent a simple 4WD shift...my truck don't give a damn what you are facing, just pull a lever its in 4WD and it don't care what I'm driving on....all those gimmicky nonsense terrain management and trail management systems don't belong in a 4WD.

[@blueridge8992]

Hmmm, one of these or, for the same price, a Crosstrek Wilderness, WRX, and an Impreza RS to handle off-roading, commuting, and canyon carving? I’m taking the Subies and just renting some Jet Skis when I get to the lake lol.

[@shawntucker9283]

Great review, and I'm always impressed this channel knows how to find real rare optioned testers that can perform. I'm looking at a 2023 series 1 with this advanced terrain group or a base 2023 expedition timberline? Any thoughts?

[@marcusgilliam3269]

The Wagoneer is much more comfortable. I was able to test drive a Wagoneer at a Ford dealership when I was checking out the Expedition. The salesman was surprised at how much more comfortable (quiet and smooth) the Wagoneer w/ the off-road package is than the standard Expedition. I would image the Timberline would be even less comfortable.

[@shawntucker9283]

@@marcusgilliam3269 yeah I really want to try for the wagoneer with the terrain pkg. Its hard to get out of my ram 2500 its so capable. It doesn't seem like many dealers order the waggy with that package so its concerning.

[@marcvalme7732]

What color would you get the wagonerr or Grand Wagoneer in? Also, the editing and video quality of your videos seem professional, who does it for you?

[@drivingsports]

We have a full-time editor on staff, but I edited this one due to scheduling. --Ryan

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

The color choices are pathetic unfortunately. Unless you like gray, black, or white, the only real “color” is maroon. If it were me and I had money to waste I’d get it professionally painted a dark metallic Hunter green and look into a high quality wood paneling

[@Tallnerdyguy]

​@@haroldbeauchamp3770I love my emerald hunter green

[@moneyparhar]

In-line 6 sounds interesting

[@Kiss__Kiss]

Looks like a vehicle which is competing with the Chevy Tahoe, and Ford Explorer's size segment,(Not to mention the similar shapes, to the aforementioned vehicles).

[@jghall00]

Expedition, not Explorer.

[@Kiss__Kiss]

@@jghall00 Thank you!! That's what I meant, not sure why I typed explorer.

[@0HOON0]

Certified previous gen TRD Sequoias with 10k miles are running $54k to $58k.

[@franktank9573]

Their 3rd row puts ur knees in your chest and is unusable for anyone not 4yrs old. New gen is the same as well not to mention cargo is non existent with 3rd up.

[@gs98999]

Sequoias must be cheaper because they aren’t as nice or as good?? Market always has the last word on what things cost.

[@Dan-yk3ky]

@@franktank9573this is entirely inaccurate. Second gen sequoias have one of, if not THE most generous third row.

[@WW-wf8tu]

Need to emphasize a section of steep grade as Creeping Cobra. 😆 Glad you did not fall backwards onto the sidestep and get knocked out. IF you are filming stuff like this on your own, I hope you have someone checking in on you now and then. Fluke accidents can be a real killer with no immediate help around. That vehicle was pretty impressive. But would it be comparable to a 4R Limited when it comes to its abilities? Obviously way more powerful torque and HP #'s off the Wagoneer.

[@drivingsports]

We take all appropriate precautions. Rescue crews on speed-dial. 😜

[@WW-wf8tu]

@@drivingsports But you have to be conscious to make the call. 🤣

[@jakey20022]

I have had two sets of these tires on this Jeep,. They are really good in the snow and ice and a good price for your money. If you know how to drive these tires will get you thru alot of stuff. And they are quite on dry and concrete normal driving.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Quiet*

[@Cornbread-gi6kt]

Wait a minute, you mean the new engine which is more powerful at 420 hp can pull 7500 pounds while the former engine which at 392 hp could pulled 10,000 pounds?

[@franktank9573]

I was wondering that myself because mine is the 5.7 and I’m pretty sure it’s 10k

[@zachh4151]

Are you sure it’s not just the platform that’s limiting it, not the engine itself?

[@Cornbread-gi6kt]

@@zachh4151 the video said 7500

[@hellkitty1014]

Its just how this one is optioned.

[@sjohnsonnc06]

Still can tow the same even the old engine didn't technically tow 10k only when Equipment with towing technically Group

[@Guzzzr]

where is this off road trails you are on?

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

Very , very good product , if I could, I´ll buy it, despite I don´t live in the U.S. and I´ve never driving a car. only my bycicle.

[@beaglesinthesun]

Great review, at 80K its easy to see why these SUV's (GC/W/GW) are dubbed "The American Range Rover".

[@briantoner5247]

0:50 beautiful!!!

[@mtbrdude]

Canada has a luxury tax on 100k+ vehicles. I can't see many of these being sold here.

[@tar6805]

I saw one last week on 417 in Ontario all I could think is how fuggly it was, then when I checked the price ! I'd take a Lex or Sequoia and they're reliability thanks'.

[@tar6805]

Cool video, not for me but thanks for the review.

[@joekavalauskas8767]

I saw this thing on the highway passing a full sized RAM and made it look small.

[@Stevel_]

I wish you could get this package with the 5.7 or 6.4. Jeep never seems to make the engine/trim combos that I want. This off road package is only available with the tropical depression engine. Weak.

[@timanderson6111]

Well, now. I know it's been a while since I commented but I do have a life. In fact, after I post a few words I will be moving on to Star Trek, Strange Worlds. I may have commented previously about this, but one of the things I most appreciate about Ryan's videos is that he presents them in a manner that resonates with the person who may be purchasing the particular vehicle he is reviewing. Would I spend 80k on this rig... probably not. Ryan put it very well when he said something about "no drama." Of course, there is no drama when you fork over 80k. My concern is that I wonder why you might spend and extra 5k (?) for a maximum lift package, as well as a video system that might take a computer science degree to understand operate. I'm just askin'... There are several things which really work well in these videos. One is that Ryan is always cognizant of his audience. Will this rig do what the end purchaser wants it to do? Can it get me out of extreme situations?. Which button do I push... when? And the little baby birds... I had tears (not!). But you know what I mean. The key phrase, however, was when he offered, "My Ranger could do that." I have started saving up for his Ranger. Wait! There is one phrase he also says which is very indicative of the situation, "Whoops!" These videos are still at the top of their field! OK. It's time for Star Trek!

[@briantoner5247]

Ohh cool awwww very unexpected.

[@matthewm3912]

I guess if you are ok with paying 80-110k for a jeep...go for it.

[@wildbill23c]

Yep, I don't see that kind of money in that thing....they can keep all that touch screen and terrain select garbage too. Just go back to the old school Selec-Trac 4WD with a lever...it don't care what you are driving through.

[@franktank9573]

My Trackhawk was 97k sticker, I was 2nd owner bought it in 2020 for 64k traded it in 22 for 84k so ya I’d pay 100k for a JEEP that car was amazing.

[@imdone1965]

​@franktank9573 suckers for everything I guess😂

[@matthewm3912]

@@franktank9573 but you didn't, you paid 64k lol...And congrats on keeping it for a short enough time that it didn't fall apart on you.

[@franktank9573]

@@matthewm3912 I did pay 97k for the Durango hellcat I ordered in 21 and would do it again in a heartbeat. I beat the slop outta them and launched them 100% throttle every red light damn near. Never had 1 mechanical issue in 40-50k on both of them.

[@phelandeluna5439]

The Wagoneer doesn't have a locker...

[@wildbill23c]

$68k for the Regular Wagoneer with the 5.7L V8...I'd take that over this Series 2...you can get the same 4WD system in the base model Wagoneer and save $20k and have a more reliable engine...

[@franktank9573]

Mine was 62k and only option I don’t have this has was air suspension, moon roof, and rear seat entertainment

[@Fyahking619]

How do you know this engine won't be reliable?

[@wildbill23c]

@@Fyahking619 All they had to mention was turbo charged...go do some research on all these current turbo engines and see all the problems people have, go talk to the mechanics at the dealerships that have to work on them. We already know they aren't reliable, there's no how do we know, we already know they aren't reliable.

[@scotth5503]

It'd be great to test these first in just the normal drive modes to see how they handle, and then if the offroad modes actually make a difference.

[@briantoner5247]

16:16 My son has sadly gone steeper in his Compass. 16:25

[@hossbonaventure]

100k for a Jeep is crazy

[@JRs-guitars]

Its like a giant grand cherokee at almost twice the price...crazy. at this point i wonder whats cheaper...this or a Z71 Tahoe...

[@hellkitty1014]

They're about the same.

[@rimarcadu]

Do you think is better than the Denali?

[@drivingsports]

I prefer it to the Denali. At this price range, theres going to be a lot of subjective thoughts about what one wants/needs in a rig.

[@brandonruhl1639]

Denali isn’t a competitor to the Wagoneer but it is to the Grand Wagoneer

[@infernoking7504]

100k for a pos jeep chrysler product In 2 or 3 years im sure it will be absolutely crawling with problems. Especially the electronic bs I detailed one It took me 5 minutes to figure out how to turn off the parking brake which it called it a auto brake.

[@Doc1855]

Great review. Since Jeep is owned by Stellantis, it simply won’t last.

[@brandonruhl1639]

And you’d be completely wrong. I’ve worked at a Chrysler dealer and a Toyota dealer and I have to admit that I’ve seen more wrong with Toyota than Chrysler

[@Doc1855]

@@brandonruhl1639 The only difference between the Jeep Renegade and the Fiat 500L is the body. The new Dodge Hornet is a Peugeot. Stellantis is dropping the Hemi engine. I’ve owned 2 Chrysler vehicles and I’ll never ever own another one. Both of my Ram 2500s diesel’s kept having the transmissions go out at 20K-30K miles. We have friends who own Wranglers and have nothing but problems with them. Our son wanted a Wrangler for college. He’s had it for a year and it’s in for repairs more than it’s out. He will be selling it and wants a good Acura like he had before. We’ll make up the difference in a low mileage Acura or Lexus for him to finish college

[@briantoner5247]

Lol. Very interesting.

[@briantoner5247]

1:27 3.92 axle ratio not final drive.

[@mario-sl6cz]

So happy older vehicles don’t have this crap holy shit all those buttons just to go off roading

[@theUltimateLord]

Jeep trying to be a luxury brand is like Rolls Royce making an off road truck

[@phelandeluna5439]

Jeep has always been a luxury brand...lol

[@theUltimateLord]

@@phelandeluna5439 haha since when ? I don't think they made the Willys jeep in ww2 for luxury purposes

[@shauns06rubi]

Willys overland wagon

[@phelandeluna5439]

@@theUltimateLord this would be after the military, farming, and commercial operations when they were offered to civilians. They created the luxury SUV, and Jeeps have always been more expensive than the competitors. Look into it...

[@KPHVAC]

I think just about all the car brands have lost their mind. If it's over $60,000 I don't care how cool it is, because I'm never buying one! I hope the new Lexus GX comes in at a lower price than this!

[@franktank9573]

Good luck, have you seen the price of anything these days? 1/2 ton trucks 80-100k+

[@KPHVAC]

@@franktank9573 Ya it's insane! Average folks need to stop spending way too much on vehicles! The prices are way higher than they should be!

[@sjohnsonnc06]

This vehicle as equipped a year ago was around $72k the inflation has brought all vehicles up tremendously

[@Tallnerdyguy]

You can't buy a 10 year old GX for 60k

[@fordrac1ng81]

Would be awesome if it weren't a chrysler product.

[@cwiggy34]

I think the US automotive industry has greatly lost touch. I won't spend that kinda money and off road it.Thanks for the review but if this is what to expect for price going forward no ty.

[@estebandelasmontanas4879]

I would prefer a WW2 Jeep.

[@carlbaltimore6092]

The price is too much. Why anyone take a 100 thousand dollar vehicle off roading.

[@RevelCris]

a lot of my friends go to the dessert and ride their gwagons and raptors. 100k is nothing to a huge amount of people. think about how many people have a million in each town. lets say 5. and theres like 25 towns in each area. thats 100 millionaires in just one state ! and if 10 of them buy these vehicles then the company makes profit. its so naïve to not be able to see this

[@kenzokressbach7360]

Can you guys take a hyuandai ioniq 5 on this off-road course to prove motor trend made the dumbest suv of the year winner ever?

[@bradskrypto9212]

What happened to Karina?

[@danam0228]

It's so quiet

[@adamblakeley5865]

I love it when you take these expensive vehicles and actually use them off-road. You are probably one of the 5 10 percent or so of people who actually ever take these off-road. I think most people buy them just for the idea of knowing that they are capable of off-road more than actually using them off-road. Demonstrated by the fact that most of the 60-70 thousand dollar Rubicons with 10 grand+ worth of mods are usually spotless and covered in ArmorAll. Instead of covered in mud and dirt. Granted people can wash wash them afterwords but In reality, most of them are bough to show off to the Jones’ next door and look cool rather than for their amazing off road abilities. That being said, Stelantis is junk and over-priced which is probably why most of their lots are bloated with inventory. I do like Jeeps in all of their forms…..just so many reliability issues.

[@gobeklipepe]

Half his videos are drenched in Subaru. Must be a suba fan.

[@javierlugo259]

Such a Girly Boy, should have driven his Granny's Subaru......

[@overtoncincy]

Why? Guess you need to justify your mountain purchase…

[@joebrito2066]

Who’s buying these things, $80K for a Jeep is ridiculous

[@pigybak]

not worth the $$$$

[@jeffm737]

Sorry to blow the wind out of your sails but this is just a overpriced Fiat no more such thing as a Dodge it's all Stellantis so they're fooling all you old Dodge lovers LOL and make sure you get extended warranty on this junk.

[@MALUR82]

For the money i rather get Sequoia or Tahoe

[@jakey20022]

My cousin just drove one yesterday and he was really impressed. Previous Chevy owner. The new inline 6 is quick and really quite

[@eriepazap6701]

Sequoia doesn’t have full time 4 wheel drive

[@keytothegate68]

You are showing a 100K car needlessly going up and down a dirty road Who cares

[@davidthomas9267]

looks like your copying TFL with your test course. probably another vehicle that will be a nightmare to have repaired, because it has a lot of things that will fail.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

true like to try both off road courses, to much electronic junk , I need just a basic off road full size wagon ,low range, locking rear dif , no need for 3 rows of leather or 2 sunroofs ,2nd row ent screens and luxury car bits nice if it had a solid rear axle

[@0HOON0]

DSTV has had the dedicated off road course for a couple years now. And built a second one closer to the coast just recently.

[@drivingsports]

We had this particular off-road course before TFL did.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@drivingsports true plus the logging trail

[@mrpink3630]

id rather get a landcruiser.

[@brandonruhl1639]

Land Cruiser isn’t even in the same class go compare to a Grand Cherokee

[@mrpink3630]

@@brandonruhl1639 IM TALKIN PRICEWISE

[@wildbill23c]

Definitely would never buy a new one.

[@MegaRetr]

In-line 6 sounds interesting