2023 Kawasaki Brute Force 750 + New ATVs from Kawasaki!

[@theviking4525]

Kawasaki said we’re going to have the stalest ATV on the market and Honda was like hold my beer bro 😎

[@DirtObseXXion]

🤣🤣🤣🤘

[@Icutmetal]

Case closed!

[@lattitude01]

Honda was like " wait we're still making these?"

[@jasonmiller9495]

The 750 is not stale. For what it is it is fast plenty of power out of all the Japanese bikes this is the best performer. It smokes Yamaha and Suzuki

[@dirttraxtv]

Oh man, I look like a little kid in my interview 🤣 Great vide with lots of insightful commentary. Awesome job as always!!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Lol!! I don't why the camera doesn't add 10-50 pounds to you like it does to us.. Must be some fancy cameras with skinny lenses y'all use! 🤣🤣🤣

[@youngangel615]

Anyone that has owned these machines at any point knows it doesn't need more power. It needs aftermarket suspension, ground clearance, teryx led headlights stock, more storage, and better stock tires. That's all carry on 💯

[@DirtObseXXion]

🤘

[@gregrowe1168]

I like what Polaris does with the storage bin under the front rack, I wish more manufacturers would do that.

[@Icutmetal]

What about a 2” hitch receiver?….

[@Heatwave91]

Kawasaki needs to be able to compete with the 1000s.

[@jameshogg601]

​@Heatwave91 already does personally the throttle response on these is great. That low vtwin torque is perfect. It just doesn't have the high speed stability of the grizzly and canams

[@stephensmith745]

Over the past 15 years I’ve owned one of every brand (except the Chinese brands) and they all have their strong points but I keep coming back to the Brute. It’s literally whichever one makes you the happiest or works the best for how you ride. That being said, as much as I love the Brute I don’t think I would recommend it to anyone who would ask me, lol. I’ve ordered Teryx LED lights so I can see properly, radial tires because the stock ones are so bad, just ordered stage 3 Elka shocks so it will handle properly and be halfway comfortable. Its worth it to me in the end but the average person doesn’t want to have to spend a bunch of money after buying one just to make it on par with the competition. The Grizzly is fantastic out of the box and the same is true of others and that’s where the Brute falls short. The Brute could be so great if they would pay a little attention.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great comment! I agree 100% that Kawasaki needs to show the Brute some love.. im glad you recognize the complexities of personal preference on ATVs.. We've dumped big money into quads that others don't like because sometimes an ATV just fits you right..

[@dellstudio10]

Never rode the 750 Brute but have rode a 650 Brute for many hour’s. Honestly I have no complaints with the machine. From hard pack, hills, mud, gravel, water, sand and even the track it performed just perfect for a all around sporty trail quad. No mechanical problems of any kind. The most memorable thing was it’s very nice low end power that was always ready to go with just a little more throttle. Also, it felt just extremely quiet, tight and solid. No squeaking, rattles, bangs or any other strange noises. Everything just felt right. I’ve rode plenty of other 4x4’s but the Brute just felt right everywhere. A high quality solid machine no doubt that is more impressive than a spec sheet would ever tell. Impressive trail ATV through and through.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I agree the 650 was awesome.. The 750 maintains all of that, they feel very similar

[@theblishknovk]

Old friend of mine recently gave me an old rolled 650 prairie that was sitting in his yard. Fresh gas and new battery started right up. She absolutely rips. Couldnt be happier. Needs some more tlc of course.

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's a sweet deal! They really hadn't changed much since the Prarie days...

[@jeffh7496]

I'm 51, been riding since 7ish. I've had a lot of different ATVs, and when me and the buddies are sipping on a refreshing adult beverage while discussing past ATVs we owned , I always bring up my 06 650i brute force because it was my favorite utility quad. I have nothing bad to say about this quad other than its way past due for a major suspension upgrade from the factory. To me, good suspension and handling is more important than HP. I recently purchased a "less reliable " sportsman 1000S just because of its ride quality, when I'd much rather had a " much more reliable " kawasaki, Suzuki, or honda

[@TomSlickery]

I love my '12 brute. I often daydream about getting a can am or kawi updating to a newer style with a 1000cc but every time I ride mine it makes me smile. It is such a fun trail machine and sounds mean AF

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's really all that matters!

[@Jimmie572]

I recently sold my 2020 Brute Force non eps for a 2022 sportsman 850 ultimate trail. And man I miss that low end power the Brute has. If kawasaki updated the ride and handling of the Brute I would seriously think about selling my sportsman and going back to kawasaki. Yea the Sportsman is faster in the top end, but that top speed isn't really usable on most trails.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great comment 👍.. I think you nailed it.. It's ride handling needs a little improvement and then it could really be a top contender fir best all around trail ATV..

[@concealit4800]

So my experience ur calling everything over 15 mph top end lmao the brute is not a match or even close to the 850 ho Polaris had both and can tell u the brute does make alot of torque but the lighter front end is what makes it feel sportier and faster to 15 but in a drag it legit like 6 to 7 bikes

[@concealit4800]

Also same for the canams but just a little more also remember if u throw a set of pitiful little 4 ply 25 inch tires on the 850 sporty and it will be faster 0 to 15 as well

[@dirtyfacegeorge9938]

@@concealit4800 you mad cause the brute us a better machine or what?

[@andrewvantassel5181]

I sold my 2016 non eps brute for a 2021 sportsman 850 uiltimate trail and i defiantly know what you mean. Part of me feels the kawi hits harder off the line and has more torque, but the other part of me feels the sportsman actually has more power and torque. I think you don't feel it as much on the sportsman because of the softer/better suspension and longer wheel base(i think) which prevents the front tires from lifting up every time you hit the gas like, unlike the kawi

[@craigswanson7478]

I put Elka stage three shocks and better tires on my 2018 brute force and I absolutely love it. I think it’s a wonderful trail riding machine and I think from 0 to 40 mph it competes with almost everything. Keep up the great work!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Smart additions! I bet it's a trail slayer!

[@Shorthaul-overhaul]

Did the same thing with the elkas and tires I put ITP mud light2 on it they're heavier but I absolutely love it also put a clutch kit in my brute Force and a k&n air filter a lot more snappier than what it was might put a pipe and fuel tuner on it next or a wench not sure but mine's a 2014 with 5,000 miles non power steering and I've had it on almost every trail in Michigan and we have taken it out to Utah to Moab. My plastic is pretty beat up from the 50in trails what's been really good machine I also have a 2002 Kawasaki prairie 400 with almost 5,000 miles on it and she's still going. I love to see them bring something else out or Yamaha but I don't know if they're going to do it and I haven't been able to justify a side-by-side yet for the price.

[@craigswanson7478]

@@Shorthaul-overhaul Nice. Ditch that k&n air filter though. They allow way too much dirt through

[@Shorthaul-overhaul]

@@craigswanson7478 I have a the micro filter over it so it helps keeps the dirt out of it sorry for some reason I forgot the brand name

[@Joe-mp4nw]

@@Shorthaul-overhaul no problems?

[@shinezz1774]

Just sold my sportsman and picked up a 400ex after hearing you guys talk about them for so long and couldn’t be happier! #savesportquads

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's awesome brother!!! I'm super happy for you!

[@euanmclapperton2451]

I just collected a Brute Force as a loan bike whilst awaiting delivery of my Can-Am Outlander Pro XU HD7. Despite it's age it has one of the best engines I've ever felt on an ATV.

[@BoulevardJon]

Bought a BruteForce 2 months ago. I upgraded the rims and tires from 12 to 14 and 25 to 26. It looks great and ground clearance is now 11 inch so it is good. I had a rincon 680 before. Obviously the brute has more power. However I'm looking to upgrade the suspensions as turning quickly I could easily flip over, which was not the case with the rincon. Otherwise very happy, more power, better in mud, great look. However total cost 22 000k$ CAD, including new rims and tires, winch, rear seat, front bumper.

[@DirtObseXXion]

It definitely needs a suspension if not a chasis update

[@chyweezy2020]

The brute is bad ass for what it is! Love it

[@richstickle7891]

I bought a 2005 Brute when they first came out and it’s still going. I bought a 2021 Brute and it didn’t disappoint. It could use some suspension upgrades but I personally like the stiff feeling suspensions. It’s powerful and the riding position is comfortable for me. Took it to Spearhead trail system in Virginia and it was a blast ripping up and down the trails. I love my Brute force(s)

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome!!

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Did you guys see the new 2024 last night, it was on KZbin? It looks like they took the video down but it has a head light now new plastic panels and racks like Suzuki and looks like a Rubicon. The head light is more rectangle than square and it's dark blue and TFT display

[@DirtObseXXion]

I saw a forum post today but I didn't see the video before it was taken down.. I heard that there was no change to the motor, which is fine, or the suspension, which kinda sucks.. Just the changes you mentioned... That about right?

[@trailblazeratv6306]

@@DirtObseXXion Speed sensitive power steering I don't know if that's new though and something about the footwells

[@trailblazeratv6306]

@@DirtObseXXion it's on the website now

[@trailblazeratv6306]

How does it compare to the King Quad 750 ?

[@ilevilminko4642]

I had a '09 Brute for few years, and I loved it! Light powerful machine and fun to ride. Sounds and looks good, and when ground clearance is not enough, power will step in. My brother was not into atv's, but he wanted to buy it from me...

[@DirtObseXXion]

The older 650s packed a punch! They haven't changed much

[@ilevilminko4642]

My 750 surely did. Never rode 650, been hearing it runs strong too.

[@stevestephaniecaudill4879]

They could leave the motor alone and it’d be fine. A chassis update is what’s desperately needed. I’ve always been a fan of the v-twin Kawasaki’s.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Definitely true!

[@danwatson8245]

I was always a yamaha guy in my younger days.... but got a 23 model that was left over....i absolutely love my 750eps.... i just wish it had the handlebar light on it...

[@lcdubs7847]

I had a 650 Prairie and a 2019 Brute. Great quads, no doubt. My big complaint was the 4x4 system. I quickly learned to put it in 4wd before going into a puddle, because it can be reluctant to engage 4x4 if the bike is not actually moving. And the diff-lock lever was annoying when you needed it for a longer period of time, and a real pain in the butt if you were stuck and needing to get off the quad and push.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Good points! I can't believe they haven't updated the diff lever to a button activated diff lock in the last 20 years

[@lcdubs7847]

@@DirtObseXXion Or even used a locking lever like Cat did when Cat used the Kawi V-twin and drive system back in the 2000's.

[@machinehead6892]

Bought my BF in 07 and it has been great, I have never had to fix anything, replaced the belt at 3500km, now at 5000km and 500hrs, I will never let it go.

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's awesome!

[@relaxingnature2617]

5000km since 2007 ..? ..thats only 333km per year ..that can't be right ..That must actually be 5000km per year right ?

[@johnford6313]

I have a 2023 and yes it does have that power in all the right place it's been good to me so far I have went thru some BIG ditch with high walls and it climbed it with ease it's bout 90 up on both sides

[@jb1..]

I bought a camo brute force, brand new in 2006 for $7100, base model was $6900. There is absolutely no way I would ever spend that new asking price! I have been price out of new atv and sxs market. I will continue to buy a used ATV, when I find a good deal on one and fix to my liking.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I understand inflation but doubling the price should get at least marginal updates..

[@jb1..]

I agree

[@atvseatexchange2176]

I've owned over 100 machines over the years and of the ten currently in my fleet contain a 650sa and a 750ind. Both are keepers and after riding newer models at the shop, I'll keep these 2 and with the money I save I will make improvements on my 3 wheelers.

[@DirtObseXXion]

No changes does mean no reason to upgrade...

[@atvseatexchange2176]

@@DirtObseXXion Got less than 18k invested in my fleet. 4 four wheel drives, one 2 stroke 2wd, and a bunch of 3 wheelers. One new anything couldn't replace them. Keep up the great work.

[@gregrowe1168]

I had a 650sa as my previous machine, was the most sporty 4x4 utility atv I ever had. You could slide it and get in off camber stuff and it never felt like it would tip over like the irs machines. Ground clearance was good enough, only times I got it stuck I would have been stuck in pretty much anything.

[@lawsonlandry3877]

I loved my brute, but omg the suspension and ground clearance was horrible. led lights, any suspension upgrade, plus real tires would be great, if they has a 2 up model would be nice, I had a hard decision between another brute and an xmr 1000, i got stuck way less with the Brute, but i like the 2 up frame. but that brute was a tough machine! almost as good as the old vinson I had.

[@kurthuber0352]

Try a CFMoto 800 or 1000, I think you'll end up owning one

[@lawsonlandry3877]

@@kurthuber0352 not enough towing power for me though, i need to haul wood out. the can am is double. i'm not a can am snob, i love the look of the cf's

[@patrickfortunato385]

There’s no doubt the Brute is a slugger of an ATV , I wouldn’t hesitate to own one but anymore price vs features has almost completely ruled it out as a option for more people, I would strongly consider a mid range option but a 1000cc option at this point would probably put it so far out of range for most.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I agree with that.. Ive also owned or tested a ton of ATVs and 1000cc machines are definitely not the best for trails or typical use.. I see people claiming we need machines with more power all the time, but the sacrifices in weight and handling aren't worth it to me anymore..

[@brutelife9177]

@@DirtObseXXion not worth the wallet anymore. People have kids and wives….no one producing cheaper families anymore so we need cheaper quads in price not quality

[@stromghouls]

@@DirtObseXXion i have owned a polaris sportsman 1000xp hunter edition 2021 and i disliked it very much. too heavy and zero handling. yes it was fast in a straight line, but i really much prefered my friend 2021 king quad 750 and yamaha kodiak 700 2021. my first atv was a polaris explorer 400 1995 2 stroke. it was an incredible atv. i want to buy a kawasaki brute force 750, but i want to wait june 7 to see what kawasaki will release.

[@DUNEATV]

“Good God that’s a good lookin dude”…LOL!!

[@DirtObseXXion]

🥰

[@DUNEATV]

@@DirtObseXXion LOL

[@nhbruteforce0853]

Make it 2 inches wider add leds lights 27s and some better suspension id buy one. But you can do all that aftermarket so do they need to do it?

[@DirtObseXXion]

All of that is going to cost quite a bit in the aftermarket, so I'd say yeah, if they can do it and keep the price competitive they should..

[@szym86]

I bought mine in 2008. I agree that diff lock and rear multi-disk brake are weak sides. Also 4wd actuator is faulty. Otherwise the quality is 10/10. Best thing I have ever owned. I would do it again.

[@DirtyJakTheDustyBean]

We came very close to buying one of these, overall a nice machine. Doesn’t have some of the extras of the others but is a great machine, quality is fantastic. Let us know when your ready for a northern Michigan ride, we would love to run a fun group ride.

[@DirtObseXXion]

We were planning on heading up there to the dunes with our Raptors this year but it didn't work out..

[@buildurtruckurway9118]

50k is pretty nuts. My friend has a Suzuki lt250 4x4 that has 65000kms. All that's ever been done to it is ball joints tie rods and bushings burns a little oil but that's it. I worked at a kawi dealer from 2007- 2012 my dad was the service manager at the same dealer from 2005-2014 and can say we never had many issues. We did see more Honda fortrax quads than any other the rear diffs would always explode and the older polaris 2 strokes for the top ends getting replaced. I remember when the kvf/prairie line up replaced the old klf/bayou line up. then they renamed the prairie line up to the brute force by just changing the plastics and they ran them side by side on the show floor. Kawi used to have some serious offerings. They had a 300 brute a 550 a 650 and the 750. Plus they had the Bayou series from 185-400cc the prairie was a 300 a 360 a 400 a 600 and a 750. They never produced all there displacements during the same years tho which makes it quite hard to decipher parts numbers and part interchange between the machines from 2004-2012.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Wow, that's great input thanks! 👍

[@gregrowe1168]

I think a couple of those didn’t exist, the 550 and 600 but yes they did at one time have a very extensive lineup. Yamaha was the same and dropped most of their utility machines other than the grizzly and Kodak 450 and 700. They had the Timberwolf, Wolverine, big bear, bruin, now all gone.

[@buildurtruckurway9118]

@@gregrowe1168 yes I apologize the 600 and 550 were the equivalent mules. That ran beside the brute force and kvf bikes I lump them together sorry for the confusion. I was just trying to note they had serious options that noone else had. Yamaha had some good options. I wish they would remake the 250 timberwolf 4x4 with a belt drive and slightly smaller frame. If they aimed it at kids like the 90-125cc grizzly or polaris sportsman 90-110 they would make a killing. Guys would buy them as pasture bikes, for there kids small work bikes for there wives ect. Or atleast a Chinese brand could come up with a 200cc 4x4 youth sized machine. It would start opening up the small cc market again.

[@windowmanmarc]

You guys are great . Appreciate the reviews . Would you guys give consideration to a Brute force vs king quad comparison ? Would be much appreciated. Keep up the informative reviews !

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks! We tried to get ahold of a Brute when we had the Grizzly and KQ but it didn't work out. Kawasaki removed the Brute 750 from their lineup for 2024.. Im hoping they're updating it, but time will tell.. If they do, ill buy a new one and include comparisons to the Grizzly and KQ... It's tough for us because we have to buy and sell in order to do these reviews.. So it's very hard to keep machines on-hand for a side by side comparison

[@brutelife9177]

The crowd roaring then waits in silences: FINNNNALLLLYYYY, the Brute force has come back……to KZbin……. (Initiate peoples eye brow) Excellent video man! Couldn’t agree more with everything you said as a brute force owner and fan!! I personally think after talking to you last time on the other video, I think Kawasaki will repackage the brute with shocks, tires, and winch. Nothing more. That is exactly how they tackle their Teryx. I would assume they would have dropped a teaser video if they had an all knew platform. Let me know if you still need a brute for a video? So how long have you owed Mike Lester/dirttrax money hahahah 😅😅😂😂

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks brother! I'd definitely still like to get some Brute footage, I just wanted to get this video out before June 7th..

[@brutelife9177]

@@DirtObseXXion absolutely! June 7th can’t get here fast enough, I hope we aren’t disappointed!

[@kirbyvanduzer6565]

I read a forum on the 2021 brute force and they said it rode very smooth and the seat was very comfortable on trails so in that year they might have made some improvements on suspension and seat one thing I’m wondering is do they burn belts bad from what they said it was really good in mud and didn’t burn belts i guess as long as I don’t put heavy tires on it and put it in low gear I shouldn’t have any problems with it I’m thinking of getting a new brute force after I get my truck from what the forum said they did improve comfort on it in 2021 so the 2023 might be even better I’m just wondering just how good is it

[@DirtObseXXion]

They haven't really done any significant upgrades since 2012, but they're still pretty comfortable.. If you drive them right, CVT transmission with belts are pretty reliable especially on ATVs.. Use the right gear and don't put monster tires on them and they'll last a long time.. I prefer the big single cylinders in the Grizzly or King Quad but the Brute is a really good option too.. It's just a little thicker in the mid section because of the twiTwin... I'd recommend sitting on a few machines to see what fits you best

[@kirbyvanduzer6565]

@@DirtObseXXion I’m mainly into v twin atvs I don’t mind singles but I prefer v twin atvs I’m also looking at the renegade 650 it’s nice too there’s a few I’m looking at I’m still not sure 100% what I’m eventually going to buy I’ve got to buy my truck first I’ll have to look at a few and see what suits me most

[@kirbyvanduzer6565]

@@DirtObseXXion and the tires I’m going to use are the bkt w 207 tires they are lightweight even though I can get them in 28 inch they are good for trails mud and everything they are aggressive enough for thick mud but smooth enough for trails and light enough so the atv don’t burn belts I’ve always liked the brute force because it has a nice v twin and I definitely like it I was just curious just how good it is I’ll definitely have to check it out first

[@kirbyvanduzer6565]

@@DirtObseXXion people say the brute force doesn’t ride smooth but I’ve heard it’s comfortable

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@kirbyvanduzer6565 It's all relative. It's not as comfortable as a Sportsman or Grizzly in my opinion, but it's still plenty comfortable. Most people prefer to whatever they get use too, so typically people who don't ride a Brute alot will say it's not comfortable compared to whatever they are riding. But those who get used to Brute will say the opposite. It really comes down to personal preference, but all Utility ATVs are pretty comfortable.

[@Mr.Safety.]

What does everyone have to say about the 520 rubicon?

[@DirtObseXXion]

The Rubicon is good. We did a comparison with a Sportsman awhile back. The Rubicon doesn't do anything particularly well or even better than any other option at a comparable price, but it's built like a tank and doesn't have a CVT which what makes most Rubi riders choose it.

[@Mr.Safety.]

@DirtObseXXion what is a cvt? Also, would you say the honda is more reliable?

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@Mr.Safety. Continuously Variable Transmission aka Belt Drive. The Honda's have a great reputation for reliability. I personally am not a fan of the their DCT or Dual Clutch Transmission. It works great on the motorcycles but on an ATV it always feels like it's in the wrong gear. You can shift it by the push of a button or get a "manual" and shift it by a foot lever but it's still clutchless. If you want want something very reliable and a little more fun, I'd consider the Suzuki KngQuad 500 or 750. But the Honda is certainly a very solid option.

[@joshpierzina7648]

I think if the brute could get a good update to things like the lighting/styling, front locker and gauge cluster, I would definitely consider buying one. Or just a new Grizzly with a twin cylinder engine would be better yet probably.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think sharpening the lines a bit and the style would be good, but a twin in the Grizzly, if they could maintain the handling characteristics, would draw a lot of attention

[@joshpierzina7648]

Yeah I think if they refreshed the brute force with some styling influence from the KRX1000 it would be sweet.

[@quaddingsous]

I rode Kawasaki motocross when I was a kid and loved it. I think Kawasaki is well built, but the BF is definitely outdated. A refresh would give another option to anyone looking at an upgrade of their older machine. Good stuff DirtOb!

[@DirtObseXXion]

I didn't know Q was prior 2wheeler guy!!! Thanks Q!

[@quaddingsous]

@@DirtObseXXion . . . Yup, used to race track motocross. Not very good though. Two of the guys in our club were ranked Provincially and one Nationally. My buddy ranked 3rd in our province and qualified for Nationals annually. We had a small group, but it was very competitive. I learned from some very good riders. I can't drive a quad worth shit though 🤣

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@quaddingsous LOL! Me neither.. Ive been on the Africa Twin a lot lately and I'm no good on that either... 🤣

[@jessecameron7268]

I want to see not an update; but a complete overhaul of the brute force and honda rincon. As of now, nothing on the market can make me switch from the Cadillac ride and power of the sportsman 850/1000

[@DirtObseXXion]

I agree, the big Sportsman 1000 has power and comfort.. What made me get rid of mine was the God awful reliability... Bushings, bearings, stearing stem, clutch, fuel pump, front diff... Thing was a nightmare after 1200 miles..

[@jessecameron7268]

@@DirtObseXXion I bought my sportsman 850 new 2020 on 3 yr financing. I have 750 miles on it and 1 year left to payoff so hopefully it holds up till then. 🤣 if it starts to go shit I won't hesitate to trade it in. I'm really curious about the new brute, hopefully without the clutch whining. I wish for a atv with twin cylinder power, with grizzly/honda reliability!

[@gregrowe1168]

Honda rincon was outdated when it came out almost 20 years ago. It had the worst ride, worst transmission, and no diff lock. Still has no eps. Nobody ever bought them anyway, no idea why Honda kept building those turds.

[@TiffanyBottomsHunter]

I had a 2005 Brute Force, I rode in by Southern West Virginia, where the Hatfield, and McCoy trail systems are. I don’t live there anymore, but rode that terrain for over 20yrs, had, and seen a lot of ATVs over the years. The Brute Force is a solid machine, I wouldn’t worry about some bad reviews about the transmission or belt, they are solid and the OEM belt is as durable as you will ever need. They are about the same as Honda as far as reliability, I honestly can’t say Honda is more reliable, and I , and many in the area have owned a lot of Hondas, there isn’t a margin of difference that you will notice in that department, ES on Hondas use to be an irritant, because you use to have to rock the machine back, and forth, side to side etc, to get it to fall into gear. That was an issue with Hondas, I don’t know if they ever fixed that, The Brute Force e750 is definitely at the top of my list, Too many issues with Polaris but they are comfortable rides in rough terrain, the original Brute was tipsy in the steep terrain of Southern West Virginia, that was its factory con, but setting the suspension at its softest setting, and widing it’s stance with offset rims and ITP Tires lowered the center of gravity, with added steel skid plates , atvs with low center of gravity is Highly recommended for that type of terrain

[@woofman4796]

we have a 2015 can-am outlander max xt 1000 2up in camo, bought it brand new in may '15,, no issues, live in hot ass florida,, we love it

[@DirtObseXXion]

Nice!

[@SuperReddog17]

i have 2009 brute my 4x4 actuator just crapped out on me pretty expensive for a new one at least to me. i love my brute though gonna take some time and a bit of money to get her back in shape but worth it, i'd like to see an 800cc brute force and all the upgrades you mention in the video to, and at least 26 inch tires.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think the motor is actually the same one in the teryx 800, just more stroke and compression in the SXS.

[@jasonmilam9930]

I bought a new brute force 750i in 2011. It was a awesome machine that I put over 5000 hard miles on. I switched to a can am renegade in 2014 bc of it being a 1000. I would definitely buy a 1000 brute force and mod it to be the underdog out performing the competition!

[@DirtObseXXion]

If they came out with a 1000cc Brute it would be the Aplha, not the underdog! Lol, I hear ya tho!

[@gregrowe1168]

Dirt ObseXXion it would probably still be slightly less power than can am and Polaris but still a worthy adversary.

[@stromghouls]

well i got myself a brute force 750 2023 to replace my yamaha raptor. now i have a 2022 kingquad 750 and a firecracker red brute force 750 with no power steering. i wanted the lightest most no frill brute force. it is a riot. i have no idea why it is sold as an utility atv, it is a rocket. it is nothing like a kingquad 750. the kingquad is mild. the brute force 750 is a tasmanian devil. the only upgrades it needs i think are maybe few upgrades like led lightning. it does not need power upgrade at all. it is already borderline dangerous, i would never let a beginner ride one. i love this thing way more than my kingquad 750. i am impressed by the seat, and stabiliy. it climbs sand pits better than the raptor 700 i had. today was my first ride. it had 0km on the odometer. i did 25 kilometers ride. of all the atv's i have ridden since 1981, it is my favorite, but it is quite a bit noisier that my kingquad 750, but the engine sound is glorious. it crackles a bit. the engine becomes quite warm too, but heat dissipation is very good. for an utility atv, it rides like a pure sport quad. i have owned 2 polaris 1000 and it is far more agile, stable and just as quick. now i understand why kawasaki does not upgrade it. the fact is it does not need much upgrading. only cosmetic and some fonctionality upgrades. the stock tires on the brute are cheap when you look at their specs on paper, but in the real world, i kinda like them. my kingquad has bear claw htr. the brute force 750 is meant to have light sporty tires. and i will stick to that formula. i have read my owner manual and kawasaki is very demanding as far as maintenance is concerned. the first oil change and break in maintenance is at 10 hours 100km. this seem a bit excessive.

[@drawncept8391]

The Prairie and original BF was legendary. There was a time in history when Kaw went from boring to brawling in a few years. When DirtWheels ran one of the very first articles in their pages of the BF, I remember the author commenting on how it had so much power that it was a threat to the frame. Whether that was marketing or an elaboration on the power the BF produced, I'm not sure. Since, we have been left with either complacency or apathy from their willingness (or lack thereof) to redesign the wheel and hope buyers would maintain that complacency. The BF is one of the machines that I've always wanted to own but never pulled the trigger. There really is no good reason aside from the financial decision of having atvs/sxs/dirtbikes that was already in the shed. Perhaps one reason is that many early reviewers commented on the center of gravity being high and offering no state of confidence in off-cambers (something I have always been mindful of because of how/where I ride). Sure, rider effort is part of the fun and I'm willing to overlook various reviews claiming a certain ATV is prone to "this and that," but I also understand physics; I'm a small, light weight dude and fighting a heavier (and expensive machine) wasn't something I was willing to do at the time because, well, physics always wins. Maybe I will find a good used one ridden on a farm by grandpa someday and he will make me an offer I can't refuse. At the moment, however, I'm waiting on my Outty to get in because...well, I've never owned a 6x6. Btw, this is my favorite atv review channel, dude. You're honest, have no fluff, and seem like a guy I could sit and solve world problems with. I say that and am not even a fan of giving props to people. Keep being awesome.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I really appreciate this comment! Having dabbled my toe into the world of offroad media with professional publications, I know enough to know that a lot of what I'm saying isn't going to gain me any favor with any manufacturers.. So getting any support in the form of test machines on my own will likely never happen.. But I'm ok with that, the guys who do this stuff for a living have to maintain relationships with the manufacturers which means they can't be 100% honest, or even 25% honest.. Im much more concerned with consumers and enthusiasts than manufacturers. I'd rather hold manufacturers accountable for certain things.. So when someone sees and appreciates that, it kind of makes it all worth it.. Thank you!

[@drawncept8391]

@@DirtObseXXion You're very welcome, my guy. I can tell when things are corporatized and people say things for the sake of keeping kahoots with a company. I'm not a fan of that, and for that reason, so many channels have been ruined. You've always shot from the hip and seemed like a neighbor I'd go hunting with; that can't be replicated by those proving financial incentives are a primary driver. The fact you respond to your audience proves my point. Okay. That's my bro-hug for the day. Stay safe, guys. God bless. 🤜🤛

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@drawncept8391 Bro hug!!

[@Clamjammer]

I STILL have my 2004 twin peaks 700(prairie). Still a monster and literally no problems. I ride it hard too. Legendary machines for sure.

[@edwardcampbell3420]

I fixed my brute. Wheels,tires. Suspension, lights. Awesome ride. Can't add another cylinder to those slow singles.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Nice!

[@lionsbluewhite]

So how much does it cost to fix up the Brute like you did? Still trying to decide on a Brute or Grizzly…?

[@edwardcampbell3420]

@@lionsbluewhite 1000 for shocks. 700 for wheels and tires. 65 for clutch springs. This was 2018 prices.

[@zthang]

I'm in the market for 2 atv's for me and my wife to ride trails and fire service roads. If you were going to buy 2 atv's with no limit on money what size or brand would you get? I've thought about a couple Rubicon's with DCT and power steering or what would you guys buy. I already have two Honda TRX sport quads in the stable I want something cushy and nice for slow riding and exploring. You guys like CVT or DCT transmisisons for that sort of thing. I'm in Corbin, KY so if you have a dealership you could recommend with nice inventory that would be great as well for us to go sit on something. Thanks.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hey, great question! We've owned and reviewed dang near everything so I can give you my opinion but keep in mind it's just one man's perspective.. Im not a fan of the DCT on ATVs, I never feel like they're in the right gear and I don't like push button steering.. CVTs are easier to use and they're a little more fun, but they aren't all created equal. I like Yamaha's the best. The Grizzly 700 is my favorite 4x4 and a Kodiak 700 or 450 would probably be great for your wife if she's a little smaller.. The 686cc motor in the Grizzly is probably the most reliable engine on the market and the CVTs have a ten year belt warranty (they literally never fail).. The problem is they are hard to find right now.. The Suzuki KingQuad 750 for you and a 500 for the wife is the next best thing.. I think the Grizzly handles better but they're close in reliability.. I recommend staying away from Polaris, the quality has really diminished in the last 5years or so.. CFMOTO might be tempting for you too, I did a video on them earlier this year and the feedback was probably 65-70% positive but mostly from newer owners.. Im not sold on their overall quality considering they're 100% Chinese.. The Brute Force is decent but it's overpriced considering it hasn't been updated in 10years.. It does pack more punch than a Grizzly or a KingQuad but that's appealing to you, then a CanAm Outlander is going to be more satisfying.. You're close enough to Lexington Motorsports to check them out, I've bought a few machines from them, I think they just changed their name to United Motorsports or something like that.. They're a volume dealer so inventory moves pretty quick.. Last time I was at CC Powersports in Shepherdsville they had a KingQuad and some CFMOTOS, that was a few weeks ago.. Lexington is probably your best bet since it's closer.. I'm not sure what else there is near you.. Hopefully that helps.. Feel free to email me if you have any more questions [e-mail]

[@zthang]

@@DirtObseXXion Awesome info, thank you for taking time to share your knowledge. I know you guys have a lot of experience, I've watched all your videos but was still struggling with all the choices, thank you so much.

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@zthang No problem brother! Let us know what you end up going with!

[@Adiline164]

It think it would be exciting to have a hp increase of 5hp just something to separate it a little bit above the grizzly and king quad, better suspension, led lights , and an led display, wouldn’t take much for people to get super excited about the brute force again

[@DirtObseXXion]

💯! It wouldn't take much!

[@rzl07375]

Absolutely agree, and the Teryx 800 motor I think is like 5 to 6 HP more than the 750 motor. So they ready have the motor to do it with.

[@utahwanderlust700]

If you've ever ridden all three machines, you'd know that the Brute already feels like it's got 20 more hp than the others. And with a tune and an exhaust, it comes alive even more to the point that it will give the 850's trouble.

[@Clamjammer]

I’m still riding my prairie 700. Kawasakis v twins are mean engines with plenty of power

[@richardvalitalo3670]

Put hydraulic pump & ports to do work with attachments for more utility use.

[@blackflycanada4943]

Glad I got my 2022. It's broken in now and I love it. I don't even know if it needs more power. Guess we'll see after I put an empire exhaust kit on it.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I didn't know Empire made a pipe for the Brute. I have an Empire on my Raptor and I'm pretty happy with it..

[@ryanpaasch7464]

Love to see suspension upgrade. Had 2012? Loved it had fuel filter issue got it solved. Loved it and was fast but bumps in trails in northern Wisconsin changed my mind. Went with can am 850 xtp smooth but slower and broke the frame plowing snow. Have grizzly 700 with clutch work 4 heavier weights shim and stiffer spring. It is quick rides great but not fast like brute force.

[@jellehesselink4011]

Love my old brute force. Power is right where you need it like you said, nothing beats the sound of a v twin, and the long seat is perfect for tall guys like myself. Suspension is its biggest downfall, I'm optimistic for something new.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great comment, I love getting some affirmation from owners! I'm excited to see what they release!

[@kcatv9556]

Great video as usual bud. You’re right on point with your assessment of the brute force. I don’t see that manufactures giving much attention to the utility ATV market..

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks KC!

[@gregrowe1168]

Yeah it seems they just expect everyone to just ditch them for a utv.

[@desertfox384]

Kawasaki will fill whatever is the biggest hole in the market. So what do you think would get them the biggest returns ? A 1000cc flagship atv? Or a mid size ? I honestly don’t know… they have the brute 400 with the kymco engine (which I owned two of and were decent bikes) and the big brute.. i don’t see any big hole there in the market for them to fill so I almost wonder if a big revamp of the brute line is coming.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Biggest hole in the market is a solid axle sport 400 machine like the KFX400 in my opinion.. I'd love to see that but I imagine they'll do something safer.. Kawasaki doesn't seem to like taking any risks.

[@desertfox384]

Kawasaki not having a sport quads is a hole in our hearts for sure, but I don’t know about a hole in the market. What are the sales for sport quads ? Can’t be very good or there would be more offerings in the field than just raptors.

[@coreydg]

@@desertfox384 agree. My theory is for a couple reasons. 1. It makes more fiscal sense to own a 4x4 that you can plow snow, work around the house, and use to hunt and still trail ride for some fun. 2. With the tremendous rise of SXSs, they have ripped up Almost all of the trails. Not a lot of fun to ride a sport quad when there are mud pits, huge ruts, and the hill climbs are dug down to mostly rocks where you ride.

[@gregrowe1168]

Maybe Kawasaki is going to introduce a scrambler and renegade competitor. I said years ago they had a huge hole in their lineup. Only 2 choices then were the brute force 750 and brute force 300. Needed a 400-500 cc machine to fill the gap. A brute force 1000 would be a bold move though, they could simply detune the Krx 1000 engine a bit and it would still be fast. I think a 50” krx would be a good move too.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think a Scrambler Renegade competitor would be a little more bold than Kawasaki has the stomach for, even though it would be awesome.. we'll find out soon!

[@flinthuravitch4323]

Personally I would put the king quad 750 over the griz 700 in comparison to the brute force. The cc's are closer in the king quad than the grizzly 700 and they are just as reliable if not more. A more reasonable comparison would be the king quad 750 and the brute force 750 in my opinion.

[@algomaadventures6992]

I've never ridden a brute force, however my old polaris had stuff suspension and I hate it, a 130lb guy suspension is a big to me when I can't squash my 700 lol I think if Kawasaki upgraded suspension, wheels as mentioned and maybe changed the styling a bit they could create some serious competition for sure as well as fix the lighting issues

[@DirtObseXXion]

Yeah for sure! Thanks for checking out the vid!

[@843MudMafia.]

Can am is where it at

[@rzl07375]

Just spent the weekend in Northern Michigan riding the trails on my Brute. Fun machine but way way over due for a makeover, it's just ridiculous on Kawasaki's part.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I know you and I have talked about the Brute many times in the comments. Definitely time for some attention..

[@rzl07375]

@@DirtObseXXion It just irks me because with some refinement it would just be so much better

[@22wrangler]

He say confidence inspiring. He's been watching Dirt Trax

[@DirtObseXXion]

I don't think they trademarked that, but you're right.. I love me some @dirttraxtv .. That's why I had to stick that clip of Mike in here! They've been really supportive of us over the last couple years 🤘

[@elkmeat3tpo871]

🤣🤣

[@Etruscan70]

The only thing they should do is up the displacement to 850cc. The ATV is really good and perfect if you upgrade its shocks and tires. As much as I like the brute I still bought a newer king quad 750 instead.

[@rajanrairealty8979]

theyll make a 1000 n for less then the 15 17 k can am polaris. some of those get messed up . the older polaris was good the 800 or 600 twin carb 700

[@shauncunningham9946]

I have a 2021 brute and it's at the top of its class

[@DirtObseXXion]

Glad you grabbed one before the price hike!

[@rajanrairealty8979]

my 05 pulls wheelies hard itl run for another 40 years

[@obliviousthunder]

id just like an upgraded look and a headlight on the handlebar honestly. otherwise i think the Bruteforce 750 is still relevant

[@DirtObseXXion]

A little geometry, suspension improvements, and replacing the lever diff lock with a button would go a long way too.

[@Twistedoff2]

I think a serious upgrade could be done by changing the lever for the diff lock! By changing tires(slightly bigger like the Grizzly) and suspension. Maybe lower the price to below the market segment, they could kill. It’s not a bad ATV. Why not make it as good as a Grizzly at a lower price the the other 570’s out there? Just a thought.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Yeah the prices right now are ridiculous

[@gregrowe1168]

I think there is a kit to fully lock the lever but yes I think it’s a silly way to use diff lock.

[@Icutmetal]

@@gregrowe1168 Right, I’ve seen that kit too but it should be a dummy proof system like the other two Japanese manufacturers, in my opinion.

[@marcgallant5270]

They need to release an updated prairie 360, maybe bump it up to 400cc with EFI. The problem with modern ATV's is they're no longer accessible cost wise. So many families started their passion with small/cheap machines, there's no longer that "gateway" machine. An 800cc+ machine would be nice too :D Bring back the 360 and 650, bump up 750 to 800(teryx engine) and release a new 1000cc.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I agree 100% prices are no longer accessible.. Powersports are now focused on 200k per year households or people dumb enough to finance 30+k on a toy..

[@nberardi103]

Had a 2019 Brute EPS, just picked up a 2022 Grizzly SE. At the time i picked the Brute up for $7,999 + tax/tag. Just paid $11,099 for Grizz. Brute melts your leg, has garbage 4x4 system and is very tippy, despite the engine sounding great, has great power. I prefer the Grizz all day tho over the Brute. Just rides overall nicer, better quality build. And for over $11k, you're out of your mind Kawi.

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's pretty blunt but fair.. Can't argue with someone who owns both.. I agree with you on the Grizzly too, that's my favorite 4x4 ATV..

[@rajanrairealty8979]

grizz is crap the switches brake the kawi has locking diffs u dont know how t ridwe. the grizz ben same since 07

[@rajanrairealty8979]

u dnt know how to ride

[@rajanrairealty8979]

11k for a grizz ur crazy for a 13 yr old single

[@PhillyLS1]

Can Am XXC: 2019 More suspension travel. Wider. More power. Improved EPS. Tri-mode throttle. Single lever brakes. 2020 Improved Bosch ECU. Stronger lower. A arms. 2021 Improved upper A-Arms. Improved dash. 2022 Improved rear hubs. Improved Fox shocks. Improved steering stem and pinch bolt. That's just off the top of my head, I'm forgetting some stuff. Also.... BOLD NEW COLORS EVERY YEAR!

[@DirtObseXXion]

You had me at bold new colors 🤘.. Excellent point tho!!!

[@relaxingnature2617]

Single lever brakes is not a feature ..it's a flaw

[@PhillyLS1]

@@relaxingnature2617 if you say so lol lol lol

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@relaxingnature2617 *Independent single lever brakes ie one for front one for back.. That's resolving the flaw..

[@rajanrairealty8979]

kawi is relaible can am have to change cuz they do break the diffs everything

[@bradybashon3941]

They need to make a 2 seater and a 1000.

[@gomerpyle8691]

I think they need to make 1000cc to keep competitive with other brands I'm wanting to buy the teryx 1000 motor and fab it to my Brute

[@rajanrairealty8979]

I like old one carb manual start

[@stromghouls]

i d'ont think they will release a 1000cc, but an 800 would be really easy. the engine already exist in the teryx and is the same engine as the brute force 750, but with higher compression and 783cc. they just have to give the chassis and suspension a little update and voila, we have all the atv we will ever need.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Truth..

[@lukewarm1186]

Takeaway-no incentive to pay more for a 2023. Brute Force sales will decline. but PLEASE tell me more about the factory pics at the end!

[@DirtObseXXion]

No real incentive no, I'll be all over those new machines when they come out!

[@hydro_rebel7741]

I had an arctic cat with the kawasaki v twin, it was a 650 had enough power BUT always had belt issues and other problems. The reliability for me keeps me away from the kawasaki.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think the Brute Force has proven its reliability, but I completely understand being soured to a brand because of a bad experience.. I wonder if the Arctic Cat half was more of the problem or not tho..

[@hydro_rebel7741]

@@DirtObseXXion the kawasaki Power plant has the power for sure but I was always slipping the belt or the belt was hitting the actuator and was putting it into a limp mode. Not sure if it was the clutching or what. But for being out as long as it has In my opinion it's still behind the times. They should take lessons off of yamaha for the belt drive.

[@hydro_rebel7741]

@@DirtObseXXion as for the rest of the machine, the ride quality was amazing, they had a setup similar to the kawasaki 4x4 lock, it was a cable but instead of holding a lever you just flipped it over. So I don't know. Maybe it was arctic cats electrical systems that did it. Not sure

[@MatthewC137]

@@DirtObseXXion I had the 500 version of that Arctic Cat with the Suzuki powerplant and transmission and it was bulletproof like my Grizzlies. Kawasaki's belt system is like the one Polaris uses while Suzuki's is like Yamaha's which is the best out there.

[@rajanrairealty8979]

The belts are best not like pol

[@drec.134]

I can’t wait Kawasaki makes some real good commercial equipment. I’ve been wait for Honda, Yamaha, and mostly Kawasaki for a great vtwin bigbore and midrange class 500 vtwin

[@DirtObseXXion]

I'm excited to see what it is!

[@erichemmelgarn4215]

Maybe Kawasaki will release a new kfx 450r sport quad haha. One can only hope!

[@DirtObseXXion]

We've had a couple of them, still have one! The kfx450 was an incredibly underrated trail machine.. It got a bad rap because it wasn't as good of a race quad but it's one of our favorites..

[@dieselmutt8865]

I had a '16 Brute 750 EPS. I traded it on a sxs and looking back, it was one of the dumber things I've done. Wish I still had that Brute. That thing was a tank!

[@jasonmilam9930]

I want a 1000 brute force!

[@Chris-no8qi]

Nice vid! Yeah man all 3 Japanese machines could do so much more. Mabey they were going to but the world has changed the last few years and could have stopped that. I don’t know I drive can ams but I I would love to see someone doing something compete or just something to show they care. Keep up the good vids!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks brother!

[@kenayre8554]

kawasaki needs a 850 with better suspension and a good tire rim upgrade they would sell out quickly for sure

[@bigjay6743]

Needs a bumper from factory If you even touch a tree with the Front it's destroyed.

[@fromontario6954]

They seem like pretty good quads but I never see them around here.

[@DirtObseXXion]

We see em a lot but rarely see new ones.. The problem with not updating anything is that there is never a reason for customers to upgrade..

[@fromontario6954]

@@DirtObseXXion Kinda like arctic cat.

[@smirk2185]

I wouldn't mind seeing an 850 Brute. A Brute Force 1000 just seems like a handful, lol.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Yeah it does! I'm working on a video on that particular subject right now..

[@EC_ATV_Outdoors]

I have never had a desire to get a Kawasaki. The Japanese ATV prices have jumped so much that you get something bigger and better with more features from any other brand. I was at a Suzuki dealer and my 2018 I paid $9700. Now they're $11000. For what? They've only added plastic racks. Which leads me to this, u don't agree with steel racks. If you use them, 5 min later you have them scratched and paint rubbed off. A small gas jug will find a way loose, then get inbetween the gaps and scuff the plastics. I've had so much frustration with trying to use the "unlimited tie down points" of steel racks with complete failure and scuffing. However, my AC Alterra 700, gas can and 1 ratchet straps and zero movement. My High Lifter 850, same, even strapped down a cooler. Doesn't budge and zero rack scuffing.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Good alternative point of view there.. I like the steel racks for securing soft bags for long trips and especially for carrying tools like a chainsaw and trail clearing stuff.. The plastic racks are more of a pain, plus you lose your storage on the Polaris ATVs.. Different strokes I guess..

[@EC_ATV_Outdoors]

@@DirtObseXXion I also prefer soft storage. I find it more dust and weather resistant. The gaskets on molded storage always seems to leak to some degree. Something to think about too, steel racks require u-bolts to mount hard storage. AC, Can-Am, and Polaris all have the option of quick connect. Loved my KQ, but when hunting season began and ended, removing and adding the storage to allow hauling a deer home sucked. But you're right, we all have our preferences and for personal reasons

[@eldenswordable]

ATV Review: Forest, mud, forest, mud, forest, mud...Nothing tests a machine like THE DESERT. Razor sharp rocks, silt, heat, dust, boulders, off-camber trails, mad inclines, sand...Hello?? Someone please review some 2023 products in an actually challenging environment. Summer, Mohave Desert, 250 miles, winner take all.

[@gordlockwood1213]

I can't think of an upgrade by Kawasaki that would move me away from leaning towards a Grizzly or Kodiak 700.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Fair enough.. Ive never been shy about being a fan of the Grizzly 700!

[@brandonc2233]

Go with the grizzly over the Kodiak. More storage. Better suspension. My dad bought a 22 grizzly xtr. It's nice. Very comfy. Lots of storage. Decent power for him.

[@gregrowe1168]

I think hint most pick the kodiak because of price. Arctic cat had a budget 700 cc machine for a few years. It had few features, the 700cc single was the big selling point.

[@utahwanderlust700]

The Brute is still relevant. It's still the only thrilling vtwin bike made with Japanese reliability. The engine issues you hear of are not design or quality issues.... it's people not checking their oil, and treating them like jet skis that's the problem. The KVF700/750 engine is one of the most bulletproof engines ever put in an ATV. Yamaha is the current Japanese brand with known engine problems that are a design flaw and thus required Yamaha to go back to the old and outdated 686! As far as the diff lever.....what else could you do to it? Add some sensors or rev limiter like everybody else? No thanks. I'll take the bulletproof mechanical cable any day! It works so damn good that it hasn't needed to be screwed with in 20 years now. As for a stiff ride, that's what "sport" means in sport utility! If you want a sloshing, leaning, Lazy Boy on wheels so that you don't feel that pebble in the trail, a Brute is NOT the machine for you! Bottom line is if you want a fun, sporty, and reliable machine to ride fast trails, buy the Brute!

[@TheCaptjamestkirk]

I have a newer Brute and like it a lot. I would like to see a little bigger motor "don't need a 1000", maybe the Teryx 800? and a better suspension would really make this machine great.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think that's actually the same motor the Brute uses with a little more stroke and higher compression.. I could be wrong, but it's very similar in terms of displacement Brute is 749 Teryx is 783, only the stroke specs and compression are different... Definitely needs suspension tho..

[@gregrowe1168]

Either way, it’s something they already build and if it’s actually basically the same size, no need to make a larger frame to accommodate it. Just maybe make the current one a bit stronger perhaps.

[@mikeruffo6462]

As someone currently looking for an ATV.......it definitely needs an upgrade.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Good luck on the hunt!! Let us know if we can help!

[@mikeruffo6462]

@@DirtObseXXion not having much luck!

[@mikeruffo6462]

As Kawasaki has the 2023s on their site, I'm guessing no changes.

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@mikeruffo6462 No but they're revealing 2 ATVs on June 7th

[@mikeruffo6462]

@@DirtObseXXion haven't seen anything on the new atvs

[@rajanrairealty8979]

SURPASSING 50K MILES crazy any haters are stupid. i only got 4k on my 05 i got a rebuild n now only thick oil n its gud for life

[@nathanwilson8376]

I agree with everything you said.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hopefully Kawasaki sees this and takes note of how many potential customers they'd have if they'd just put a little effort into their ATVs..

[@chrislobb936]

Now I know what the up dated Brute looks like. I like the old Brute more.

[@Team2Gils]

It looks like it could benefit from a little more camber. Those cornering shots has the front outside tire about rolled over.

[@DirtObseXXion]

The roll sensation is even worse on the non-eps version.. Good point about the camber..

[@roberteaddy6853]

If brute Force come up with a 1,000 CC I will be glad to pay 12 grand for one

[@DirtObseXXion]

Well the Camo 750 is actually 12k now so I'm sure it would be more.. I wrote this script before the price hike and had to go back and make some changes... But I do think a 1000cc Brute would be exciting.. I don't see it happening tho..

[@gregrowe1168]

Yeah probably more like 15 k now. I’ve seen sportsman 1000s selling for 16k locally.

[@coreydg]

Agree with you. A 500cc machine is a massive market opportunity they should be addressing. This is the machine that most people are going to buy to plow their driveway and use for basic hunting tasks, because it’s just the right mix of power vs price. Price it at 6999 with no frills (Sportsman 570 starts 7999) and it’ll be a winner. Although, they gotta drop that stupid diff lever! Your right on that. Outdated. You guys make great videos. You should have 10x the subscribers. It’s too bad Atv riding men don’t care to subscribe to things. Suggestion- put bikini clad women on the title shot? Lol. Also throw in some twerking ? Kids like that. Hey whatever it takes to grow the channel! Haha

[@DirtObseXXion]

LOL! Great comment, thank you! The DO boys in Bikinis is more of a niche Only Fans kinda thing.. I think 🤣🤣🤣

[@rajanrairealty8979]

Odes 1000 also tgb cfmoto n hisun 2up

[@OdysseyOffroad]

The only 4x4 ATV I ever owned up until buying my wife the Renegade was a Kawasaki brute Force 650 and that was a great quad and had more than enough power for trail riding.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Yep, my buddy had a 650, it was a beast!

[@markalan4026]

I have both a Brute Force 750 and a Grizzly 700. This is likely going to aggravate some people, but I feel obligated to share my thoughts on this machine. Bottom line, the Brute Force is not a reliable machine, I can promise you. If you're looking to purchase one thinking it'll be as reliable as the Grizzly and King Quad, you will likely be very disappointed. I'm not necessarily saying their junk, but imo, they are known to have far too many common issues to be considered reliable. While it may be possible someone got that crazy milage out of theirs, it is hard to believe those were trouble free miles. But who knows, maybe someone got a 1 in a million Bf. Anythings possible I suppose.. Common problems include: Front differential lock, timing chains, crank bearings, overheating, puking oil, fuel pumps, clutches/belts and regular valve adjustments. I'm sure others could chime in and add to this list, but I think that pretty much sums up the regular stuff. And all this can be verified by searching the Bf forums yourself, and I would definitely recommend you do just that anyway. Dont just listen to one single guy. Not only that, the power difference between the Bf 750, the Grizzly 700 and the King Quad 750 is barley worth mentioning. Sure, it's a twin, and it does feel a bit more torquey than the other two, but the difference is negligible. You will mostly notice this torque right out of the hole, but midrange and top end feel very similar to the other two quads. Also, the handling on the other two atvs is much better as well.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Wow, an honest BF owner lol! I agree with all and would add that the fan motors tend to go out as well.. Also agree the KQ ride is much better and the Grizzly ride is better than the BF.. Not taking 1 guys opinion is the best advice anyone can give!