A Brute force engine with Grizzly chassis , EPS and with the Suzuki fit and finish would be perfect for me .
@wtfbuddy12 ай бұрын
Mike you are correct of the Hp range - 40-50 hp is where most people need it. Cheers
@ilevilminko46422 ай бұрын
One of the best ATV's still.
@Matts0002 ай бұрын
Agreed! I put some Elka shocks, 14” wheels with 28” Zillas, and a Dalton clutch kit. It’s a perfect machine.
@joekearney2 ай бұрын
I’ve had 3 of them . 2006 650i (faster stock for stock than the carb 750 at that time until EFI) 2009 750, 2012 750. I’ll always have a soft spot for Brutes! The titles stated 50.1 HP on them if I remember correctly. It’s all in the clutching and that legendary kawi v twin . Such a fantastic motor . Feels like 75hp. I’ve had a grizzly and a king 750 recently and they both had 25” tires as well. Only the 2 1000s (sportsman , and currently own outlander 1000R) came with 26s. Sportsman may have been 27s I forget now . Great machine and a great bang for the buck , but they can’t get a penny more expensive without a real update. I raced my 2023 Outlander 1000R against the base model 120hp X3 I had and it actually held an atv length on the X3 until 70mph. Kawi needs to update the Brute badly. Until then, I agree it’s still a machine there guaranteed to bring a smile !
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
Great comments! Thanks for sharing!!
@ProbeGT22 ай бұрын
Had a 650 with a tuner on it. Drove with a friend who had a renegade 800. Could keep up until 60-65km/h then you could clearly see the horsepower of the renegade. They are fast until 60-70km then they fall off.
@joekearney2 ай бұрын
@@ProbeGT2 Spot on , stock for stock I raced an Outlander 650 way back then (2006-07) and it was even til 50s and he’d walk away from me easily . I have 3 can ams now . Rotax is just where it’s at lol.
@EmileMenardАй бұрын
@@ProbeGT2i know someone with a modded prairie and he is quick af, he is running a hmf exhaust with a cdi upgrade and some other stuff and he gaps everyone, yes they might have less power, but they are waaay lighter than an outlander or a sportsman
@fenbay2 ай бұрын
I picked up the Kawasaki 2024 EPS Sage, an I must say it's not bad at all and I love it!. It only goes 115KMH but it's not bad at all. And mine came with a winch installed just saying...
@tysonpeter2 ай бұрын
Great point about the HP range and nice updates to the brute. HOPEFULLY Yamaha will take their $$$ and resources from the snowmobile department and make the grizzly more badass soon.
@robqwertyuipp87502 ай бұрын
Yamaha stopped making snowmobiles, those engineers need a job now !
@123devinzz12 ай бұрын
@robqwertyuipp8750 that sidewinder engine would do great in a sport side by side. the 80hp 500cc twin could go in a quad easily too.
@ProbeGT22 ай бұрын
20+ years later, that transmission whine is still there! 😅 I had a Prairie 650, i beat the crap out of it, i loved it, had no comfort whatsoever, but drove like a sport quad with the straight axle. Changing my 20 year old ATV for a new one (if i had an irs model), and having the exact same platform but more Bling, it'd be a hard sell, even if it was reliable. Cars nowadays are more powerful than ever and more reliable than ever, same thing can be for ATVs.
@Clamjammer2 ай бұрын
Check out Cfmoto. I love my new 1000
@Geoffreys-adventures2 ай бұрын
I can wait for guys to test drive the 2025 can am 1000 at 101 hp.
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
Same!!! 🎉
@canadianbreeze873312 күн бұрын
We just bought 2 new Kingquads (wife and son) but my next bike will be the Brute
@ray98802 ай бұрын
I own a 2023 750 Suzuki kingquad. It to is much like the Kawasaki just a few upgrades over the years. Power i feel isn't a problem. If only the Japanese would offer suspension upgrades. Or surprise us with an 850 or 1000cc would be cool.
@healthiestsickness86462 ай бұрын
i often state the same thing as you, if reliability is a concern to japanese then just keeping the same displacement ( CC ) but with the option of a v twin over a single , should be quite enought to feel a noticeable difference between these 2 output! and yes suspension still lacking upgrades
@EC_ATV_Outdoors2 ай бұрын
The Japanese brand prices are getting up there. As much as I criticize Polaris these day, one could argue that they have high D&R costs. The Japanese brands have done nothing really over 10+ years, yet prices are jumping up. When you use the same tooling for 10-15 years, pass the savings along to us please.
@Lracer612 ай бұрын
Cant go wrong with kawasaki
@ZachAutomotiveАй бұрын
Not to be annoying but the kingquads 500 and 750 are all offered with 25 inch Carlisle at-489 only. Just to let you know
@heckteck2 ай бұрын
I have the first 2 brute force models still......guess I have to get the new remodeled one for the collection lol
@EC_ATV_Outdoors2 ай бұрын
The cst's that came in my Polaris 850 touring were the cause of me having 2 broken ribs, my shoulder blade broken in 3 places, a collapsed lung, and a chipped tooth. Get rid of those ASAP, no matter what machine you ride.
@thomaslee6894Ай бұрын
Unless the lugs ripped off or the bead blew out. How is that possible man?
@codyarnold56722 ай бұрын
I'm excited to see the body upgrade with the LED headlights and hand bar light with the new screen, but what clutching upgrades have been done since 2012? Also no power upgrades, cause what makes a guy like me with a 2012 750 es limited edition and lifted, piped, 29.5 outlaws, chipped, clutched and rad relocate, wanna go buy a 2024, unless Kawi throws the 1000cc they are unfortunately missing out big time in guys that don't want to buy polaris or can-am, cause for $3500 I can make my 2012 look like a 2024, and for $5-6000 I can do that and a big bore or full port and polish, have 80 ish hp and not go spend $15-17g just to get newer version of my 2012..... like don't get me wrong great to see they finally made a body upgrade but that's it!!
@willhutton15162 ай бұрын
Kawi and Honda’s reasoning for not changing the chassis for the 750 and 700 respectively: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
There are parts of this machine that really need an update and I made sure to point them out. I'm doing the test of the Honda next week and will be sure to present my most honest opinions.
@willhutton15162 ай бұрын
@@dirttraxtv personally, I’m surprised Honda hasn’t really done any improvements to their hydraulic transmission (3 and 5 speeds). It technically is a Continuously Variable Transmission. Except instead of a belt, it’s a hydraulic motor and pump with a swash plate. If they add the low range from the older rubicons to this, it’ll honestly be the best transmission for reliability in the industry. Uses engine oil, so you change it regularly anyway. The pressures it runs at are easily attainable for these hydraulic systems to handle reliably. And it can be mated to almost any engine and survive it. I can honestly see them making a a pure-utility focused machine, similar to the can-am outlander Pro lineup. The Talon 1,000 engine, a 6-speed Hondamatic (Rincon version, not motorcycle version) towing up to 2,000 lbs, cruise control, and optional PTO.
@AaronsAnglingAdventures2 ай бұрын
A few weeks ago I looked at the Brute 750 and the Grizzly and ultimately went with the Brute 750. I like it more. It's not lacking in anything.
@JCourts2k232 ай бұрын
Plus you can't beat the sound of a V twin
@sph67432 ай бұрын
Good evaluation, did you try different preload adjustments?
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
Thank you. We did play around with it a little bit, which is something I always recommend. You can get this ATV riding pretty good and there's lots of guys on here that own them and think they ride great. However, I still feel the suspension needs an update and Kawi should offer a model with a performance shock.
@KClife9TVАй бұрын
Nah man the suzuki king quad 750 is a beaut
@stromghouls2 ай бұрын
stock Kinqquad 750 d'ont come with 26 inches tires option. they all have 25 tires. i had a 2022 model and i liked it that way.
@dirttraxtvАй бұрын
Pretty sure I said that. My final comment was about Kawi needing one more trim love that came with a winch, performance shocks and 26-inchers.
@joeyholthusen64952 ай бұрын
30" tires I'd like at minimum in the skeg
@justinmochi73232 ай бұрын
Go get an xmr sir this isn't that vehicle
@bucksshots3109Ай бұрын
Updated yet still outclassed
@stromghouls2 ай бұрын
26 tires rob the brute of power and acceleration. 25 tires is best choice for brute. the brute has 51hp but feels like way more.
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
A better quality 26 inch tire would add to the performance of this machine if clutching is calibrated properly.
@mikestowe61362 ай бұрын
so easy to make it a 1000 but yet nope lets change the plastic put new headlights in it n charge a couple grand more for 2007 drivetrain pass
@powersportsenthusiast19862 ай бұрын
no kingquad 750 that i saw comes with 26" tires
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
My mistake. I draw up a compare chart when I'm doing my research for these reviews and must've just recorded the wrong size. Nevertheless, this machine needs 26-inchers and apparently the KQ does too.
@lawsonlandry38772 ай бұрын
so still the garbage shocks, dam one i had bottomed out all the time.
@Outdoors-and-Sports2 ай бұрын
What? I thought Kawasaki’s have the best suspension.
@lawsonlandry38772 ай бұрын
@@Outdoors-and-Sports God no!!! pure garbage. my xmr with silverbacks drove smoother. but frig the brute i had was one tough machine. and so fun to drive except for the tail bone beatings.
@KonnerLeedy2 ай бұрын
Is it still tippy?
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
Sway bars are good and i felt it remained fairly planted, but use quite a bit of body English in the corners when I ride any ATV. Not sure how you ride in the corners so hard to compare our experiences.
@Infamouscoma8852 ай бұрын
It’s quite literally the exact same atv it just got an ugly as hell face lift.Kawasaki is so far behind in the atv market it’s not even funny.
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
I think the plastics look good, but definitely needs updates to the suspension and brakes and while we're at it, let's get rid of that diff lock lever and just move into this decade.
@Infamouscoma8852 ай бұрын
@@dirttraxtv they need to make a 1000cc already if the 750 is this good which I know it is since I’ve had 2 a 1000 has to be great!
@tomgiovanni58852 ай бұрын
That goofy dif lock lever needs to go away.
@dirttraxtv2 ай бұрын
It works, but I hear ya 💯
@relaxingnature2617Ай бұрын
the rear hand brake is still the *weakest* in the industry -- after 20 years with zero improvement Kawasaki should be ashamed -- its basicly useless in serious mountain terrain -- grizzleys rear brake is 10x stronger - and the brutes cable actuated park brake will let the quad roll off a mountain if the cable snaps , and those cables do snap -- needing to squeeze with 2 hands on 1 leaver just to get 30% brake action is pathetic and verges on dangerous
@dirttraxtvАй бұрын
Yup, wet brake sucks. Needs discs immediately.
@miniwolverine62272 ай бұрын
Two power cycles every two crank revolutions vs. one power cycle in the same with the same cc’s. Gets into the old 500 GP days and the reasons they built the engines the way they did.