2023 Land Rover Defender 130 Quick Review // More Seats

The 2023 Land Rover Defender 130 First Edition ($100,850 starting in Canada, $84,700 starting in the US) is the first Defender to have 8 seats. To accommodate the extra passengers, it has been extended by 340 mm, and comes with heated third-row rear seats. Powered by the 3.0 L turbocharged inline six engine named the P400, the Defender 130 First Edition makes 395 horsepower and 406 lb ft of torque. Thomas and James share their thoughts on how this 8 seater Defender fits into the Land Rover lineup, and how it compares to its competition. We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
Thank you to Jaguar Land Rover Metro West for lending us their Defender 130 www.landrovermetrowest.ca
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[@julianpasotti173]

Getting closer to the 11 seats it used to have.

[@vicomtedelomagne]

That no-one ever sat in

[@zevihome4809]

@@vicomtedelomagne because it was unsafe

[@norgeek]

@@vicomtedelomagne they were the troop transports of choice for the Norwegian military, and probably many more. Chances are more people rode in those than there will in this incarnation.

[@robervin9107]

That ending I’m with Thomas omg I can’t even 8:37

[@minhajsyed9874]

James looks so proud of that one 😂

[@sergeygarbar4950]

I couldn't recognise what James said, could someone spell it?

[@markusnl]

@@sergeygarbar4950 it

[@DennisJosephin]

😆😆

[@jacobbwalters8133]

130 is for posh family ski trips. That is the perfect use case- good in snowy bad conditions, uber comfortable, and able to haul the whole family.

[@pistonburner6448]

No, posh families don't cram into a car for many hours. Anyone sensible will simply fly to the ski resort and then pay to be driven by a taxi or other car service for the one dozen times you even need a car. That doesn't cost much. Or then you simply get accommodation in a good location so you don't need to drive to the ski lift.

[@Greek_Freak-qv2dl]

@@pistonburner6448 as someone living in Denver, I disagree. Most ski resorts don’t have their own airports lol

[@pistonburner6448]

@@Greek_Freak-qv2dl You're really that incapable? No wonder you're poor if you can't even figure simple things out. Seriously: that has to be one of the dumbest comments ever. Lol.

[@jacobbwalters8133]

@@Greek_Freak-qv2dl yeah I live in Northern Michigan (not exactly a ski Mecca I’m aware) and luxury three rows are all the rage for ski trips. Lincoln’s and Volvos tend to be particularly popular for the activity, but Land Rover is generally also well represented.

[@Breadfan00]

@@pistonburner6448lol that’s some bs. This would only apply to people (mostly Americans probably) which live too far from the ski resort to drive anyways (~over 10 hours)

[@1958plymouth440V8]

I just think it looks so ungainly and portly because of that extended back end. The original Defender 130’s extra length looked nowhere near as tacked on because LR stretched the wheelbase to match. The new one still shares the same wheelbase as the 110.

[@rovert94]

For offroad-ability, I wonder what makes a bigger difference, extending the wheelbase, or tacking it on the back-end. I am willing to bet the longer wheelbase is worse for offroading.

[@Kasi01]

@@rovert94 Maybe learn about off roading.

[@GlitterGuru]

Yeah I don’t get the design either, it looks like an afterthought project.

[@revvolutions]

School bus

[@rovert94]

@@Kasi01 Maybe not be an asshole. I know about offroading, and the answer of weather the longer wheelbase will be impactful is it depends, there is no right or wrong answer. I don't know, and I can't be bothered to look up the departure and breakover angle, so I didn't want to be presumptuous. Something you have no trouble being.

[@FurkanCemTurfanda]

This generation of Defender is really a LR4 Discovery replacement. The LR5 Disco was softened up and the Defender replaced the hole the LR4 left while also being a spiritual replacement to the original Defender.

[@Geetee3991]

IMO This defender is the spiritual LR4 replacement. The actual hole is a modern Wrangler-style car like an older school Defender. If this was bashed LR5 or Disco 5 it would’ve made way more sense.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Another idiot saying the same old rubbish. No, this Defender is the next evolution of Defender and they nailed it. The Discovery 5 is the next evolution of the Discovery 4. People need to get over it. The Defender is not, never will be and was never meant to be the next Discovery.

[@flatoutintop23]

Only in the Discovery 3/4 you could fold all the seats into the floor for a fully flat load space, and tow 3.5 tons....this can do neither 😖 Who signed off on that at Land Rover?! 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@mjrc123]

@@Geetee3991My step-father’s last cars have been a Disco 2, two Disco 3s and two Disco 4s and he’s just bought a Defender 110. And I can absolutely see why. I am not and have never been a big fan of the 5, this is the natural successor for sure…

[@electrikoptik]

The 130 has more room for you and your family for when you're waiting for the tow truck.

[@Jimmy-ms4sj]

Hahaha so original. A guy that’s never owned a Land Rover product whining about what he’s heard about reliability

[@lbnewell23]

@@Jimmy-ms4sjwas coming to say exactly the same thing

[@user-bc4fs9jp2m]

@@Jimmy-ms4sj actually both of your comments are gold😂

[@temwananinkana3419]

😂

[@DarthWaffle.]

Wish I thought of your comment first, hate you but good one.

[@lrosengreen]

Thanks, dad, the pun about the screws was utter torxture.

[@pratikyadav5354]

Well ... Here in India it makes a lot of sense ... Because we got joint families.... And we love rugged SUV's with massive seating capacity .... And we are also obsessed with SUV's that look like the people inside are mafia guys or someone who holds a position or power or something like that .... I mean at this point you guys are thinking what is he talking about ... But to understand you people will have to be in India to grasp all I'm talking about.... I tried to answer why is 8 seats in a car needed question and also a perspective... Thank you

[@shreysatapathy1049]

1.5 Cr Rupess though. Thank the government for this horrible tax.

[@greatfox66]

This is the only vehicle on sale right now to have 3 sizes like this. Curious if jeep will push the wrangler to bus proportions like everyone thought they were doing with the JKU.

[@tomekkaminski2677]

Many Vans got 3 or more sizes like MB sprinter, renault master , ford transit etc ,and that is also vehicle

[@fist003]

that would be the Jeeeep

[@ralphlambda5359]

The wrangler pickup makes 3

[@viktor9169]

Love you guys! Amazing as always!

[@user-ur5yg3cx8t]

130 is the reason i did not buy an 110 this year, eagerly waiting for it to launch Just perfect for my needs

[@CooperStation01]

how do i get money to buy one

[@user-ur5yg3cx8t]

@@CooperStation01 work

[@oliverrugg3732]

What are you doing, running a replacement bus service?

[@user-ur5yg3cx8t]

@@oliverrugg3732 solo traveller, i can stretch my legs completely and sleep peacefully inside and still have enough room for other gears, no need for those clumsy rooftop tents

[@dmariots]

This seems like my car just like an upgraded flex

[@obeddiaz1437]

I’m with Thomas! I NEED ONE!

[@StephenFogarty2023]

The 130 model, ordered as a 5 seater, will b very popular worldwide. The extra room in the rear will be excellent for people who will use this vehicle for overlanding.

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work Thomas and James

[@hey_myk]

Never thought the world needed one, but now that it's here - it's probably the coolest 7-seater SUV to have.

[@Zachattack11072]

Durango hellcat?

[@pacman1789]

​​@@Zachattack11072Not as nice as the Defender or as capable. Faster yes but that's it.

[@jissanhuq3792]

Honestly it’s pretty great for a big young family. If they had better reliability and a plug in it would suit my gross family lol. 3 dogs, 1 year old baby n a wife that treats cars like a locker. Its rugged enough that it would be easier to maintain than the upper luxury suvs

[@surrealtom]

@@jalopy2472 German cars haven't been the standard for reliability since the 1990s lol.

[@markallen2984]

Love the color (Sedona red) and I actually like the look of the 130 better than the 110

[@scottr2597]

I lived in Colorado for 12 years. This would awesome for a family going up the mountain for a day of skiing!

[@Jimmy-ms4sj]

The Ford Flex walked so the Defender 130 could run

[@ImmortanDan]

...And the only reason the Flex needed to walk was because the Caprice/Roadmaster Wagon, which was running marathons, got its legs broken by GM execs.

[@sirleinarihcaw7324]

I have been waiting for this video for as long as I can remember.

[@carstech2685]

Great video as always. I actually can't wait to see this land Rover in person

[@jasonvelez7317]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That was LITERALLY the best auto dad joke ever!!! 🤣🤣🤣❤️ Love it! Thanks guys.

[@maggotpudding]

Depressing fact: 110k CAD is around 80k EUR. Cheapest 130 in Finland thanks to our car tax based on co2 is 137k EUR, before options. That's 189k CAD.

[@williamdrijver4141]

A Defender 110 diesel here in Holland is taxed by 50,000 euros CO2 tax alone (plus 21 % VAT). The (theoretically) little CO2 emitting plugin hybrid is only taxed with 3,000 euros CO2 tax 🙂

[@MrDomestosWC]

Well my ram laramie in poland costs over CA$160k though official distribution while I paid $62k for it in Canada. Why? Because over 60% of the price is made by taxes, customs and environmental fees. Anything that is above 4 cylinder 2.0L in Europe is taxed over 50% and that is wrong and needs to stop. But yet, people still vote for the same idiots telling you what to drive while they fly private jets and drive V8s in convoys.

[@amritanshurai4428]

cost 182K US dollars here in India :)

[@theinternets7516]

I really like this. If they can prove to be reliable I will give serious consideration to buying one.

[@amanasd26]

Land rover doesn't do reliability

[@Affalterbach1967]

5:58 Looking between James' feed and trying to read Binaural Music Spectrum VU Meter.

[@MegaRetr]

Great video as always.

[@juicyjuice841]

0:41 poor james :(

[@BenMed978]

Consumer Reviews on the Defender are just unforgivable. Pages and pages from actual owners who have had nothing but problems. Every time that I think about getting rid of my 12 year old Lexus LX570 I end up deciding to keep it...have had zero issues outside of regular maintenance and it still drives like a tank.

[@johnfitzgerald1879]

They have the GX 550 ready for you now.

[@gm6361]

Smart person ^

[@norgeek]

This :/ I'd love this as the weekend warrior/overland rig. On paper it's the perfect modern alternative. In reality I'm not just concerned about breaking down with a critical fault while crossing the Sahara, I'm concerned about making it there at all.. not a great look.

[@paulelledge8977]

This is stupid. There are pages of things wrong with every car, there are also pages and pages of how great the Defender is.

[@Liam.......]

The ending. God damn it James

[@kdm704]

Thomas’ face at the Torx joke at the end had me 💀🤣💀!

[@devongee1776]

As the winter draws deeper my appreciation for you lads has definitely gone up. I don't live anywhere near as north as yall and I am fucking COLD bro...

[@axioaxis9539]

James is my spirit animal 😂

[@Proparkourgamer]

0:40 Best part. Had my dying

[@philipmonaghan8267]

Gorgeous!!!!!!

[@Lethal_Venom]

Perfect ending James

[@joemclaughlin995]

Land Rover products look awesome!

[@BRBNWolf]

epic, dad joke ending for the WIN!🏆Well played sir well played.🏆

[@panvansaksimandy9300]

I love 💖 defender mostly ❤️❤️

[@aaronjennings8547]

That last line was gold lol

[@allenpaul102]

“They keep torxing about it” lmaoooooo

[@mylesmooney7505]

For the world 🌎 of me I wouldn’t sell my 1988 Land Rover 90” … 300 Tdi it’s a part of my soul

[@shaesnell3938]

James' happy face when he dropped that last dad joke

[@haanjamiis]

2 guys can't figure out, that there are families with more then 4-5 members. And yes some of them do really go to off/softroad adventures and roadtrips. Some even live in places where 4x4 is recommended. Not all big families don't want to drive around in van's. I love the open bolts. Everyone who ever needed to take off any panels in cars love them. F'ck the plastic clips that break every time. Give me me those beautiful bolts every time. Even more..like in Ineos, where even buttons have bolts. Perfect! Only 2 bad things about Defender are price and (engine) reliability. 4 and 6 cylinder engines still have way too high failure rate and JLR/Tata has not addressed this problem from D3, D4 till the newest models.

[@kevmcd8603]

I liked this just for the last joke. Well played sir 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Goldiielicous]

I feel like Thomas named the channel “Throttle House” so people could wear merch with his initials on it 😂

[@dns9155]

James is hilarious 😂

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

love the color can still get a 2 row model and a low spec S model with 19" rims

[@foggyblues13]

Their coolness were never an issue. I'll pass on their reliability and non-stop issues.

[@VWkid4life]

Got some news for you. Ford has taken that torch. Might wanna check the Bronco forums.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@VWkid4life Lmao what goes on there?

[@foggyblues13]

@@VWkid4life LMAO. No surpirse there since they owned and further ruined Land Rover.

[@flacjacket]

@@VWkid4life if someone hands me a shit sandwich and someone else comes over and offers me a shit sandwich whose bread has been soaked in piss its not going to make me take a bite of the first one.

[@VWkid4life]

@@flacjacket So just make a BLT.

[@j.redbeard99]

The 130 will probably drive the Discovery to extinction.

[@shookfng]

How?

[@CT37BN]

I'd like to see someone review a base engine version with steel wheels and vinyl/or cloth interior.

[@1point521]

Would love to convert one of these to a camper

[@TJY2K]

I wonder if you could configure it to have the front bench seat to make it hold 9 passengers!

[@WhiteGoldSynesthesia]

Lol classic Jaaaames 👌

[@BBlackmen]

I think that Defender 1:30 is a no-brainer for Land Rover I mean who doesn't want to take their friends and family around and a big old off-roader and bring your gear

[@JC-tz8td]

Ordered mine looking forward

[@ecpnothnagel9121]

Perfect as a highland hearse.

[@KK-wk1id]

I can't believe 0:45 🤣🤣🤣

[@Adrian_Nel]

Does it come with an extra check engine light?

[@ngashmir]

Reliability aside, the new defender is a really handsome car.

[@bbustin1747]

You guys really torx me off !😂

[@111danish111]

Beautiful car.

[@Inverter222]

I love seeing a brave couple shop for a family SUV before they adopt some kids

[@AnweshAdhikari]

Hey guys, I noticed some graininess in the face-cam footage of you two inside the car! Was it because of light or something else?

[@SJB117]

"It's pretty based" well done James

[@DoSum4Me]

Ngl I kinda love it

[@emilianosc335]

the old defender used to be a 9 seater..😁

[@bigprocrastinator]

Yup

[@aryobvg]

Well technically there's a third seat available for the front row!

[@ZenEndurance]

That’s a really nice Honda Element!

[@costafilh0]

Defender 90 as Daily Driver! This is the way!

[@r3d-1truth17]

Why is the Chevy suburban not the precipice of comparison when looking at 8 seaters suv/4wd?

[@zanechristenson3436]

I think you’d be shocked as to the amount of durability having those exposed torx screws adds to the interior as opposed to the alternative hidden panel clips

[@ronin84]

Almost as big as my apartment. Might as well move into one of these, least it's mobile.

[@Jesuosivwi]

Watching this after the new GX review, and I must say I really prefer the Defender. But as Thomas rightly said in that review, assuming I'd have to own it after warranty? I hope I don't regret it.

[@americansmark]

I didn't even know this existed. I'd rather have the 90, but this is pretty cool.

[@thedarkgreenvanman]

I want it

[@alexeymoujeer3498]

If it breaks down all the time is really rugged?

[@hazel_the_bunny_]

Nice car.

[@kingston463]

The only thing that i find weird is why is the Discovery still being sold. The defender is just better than it.

[@geoffreywaterson6679]

Discovery is a little less rugged, and arguably closer to a Range Rover in appearance. I’m currently working with a client who has the Discovery top of her list - Defender is too “offroady” for her liking, and Range Rover is out of reach. So I guess it’s just down to personal preference and some unique buying requirements

[@tastethedifferencecheese]

range rovers are very expensive. discos are scaled down but more practical than range rovers, and the new defenders nowadays should just have a discovery badge; this new generation of defenders are not defenders.

[@user-hg6vd2iz7m]

Why get this over a mazda cx90 if we are talking about v6? is there any reason? i was this close to dropping $150k on a v8 130 but LR says no colors other than black for the v8 so I’d have to get a v6 to get the red I like. I can get a mazda cx90 PHEV for $65k. They’re almost the same length.

[@izzo2271]

Honest to God serious question, do you guys think I should get a 2014 Evoque or a 2015 Grand Cherokee, both are second hand

[@KulebyakMaster]

I've got wk2 Grand Cherokee and i love it! It is much more practical than a range rover, more usable as well. And much cheaper to maintain (where i live).

[@gijoemolinaro]

The one thing we can all agree on is that the reliability will let you down why dont we see them used in the outback or Africa or in the desert? The reason is that they will leave you there unlike a Toyota Landcruiser that is a true adventurers vehicle dependable and reliable without torx bolts

[@williamdrijver4141]

True, but most LaRo customers do not live in such remote places. They live in huge luxurious mansions / apartments in or near urban areas.

[@sparkle1234]

That thing is loooong. Honestly, at first I thought it was photoshopped.

[@anoop1pr]

Which colour is this ?

[@bhangi]

3rd Row seat, VW Atlas vs. Defender 130 ... which is more comfortable?

[@mubashirtk3174]

Extra Defender on Extra Throttle House...😁

[@jomyjoseph1294]

Guys came so unprepared to do a car review

[@lakshyaagarwal2003]

This video is shot on same day when Range rover sport was shot

[@mihlebokveldt3774]

Pls review the Amg Gt

[@rebelmornings8543]

I live in Brooklyn the streets are so bad it’s like off-roading every day

[@djsomeguy]

Here's a question, could you remove the rear row of seats? Then you get a bunch more cargo space than the 110, I could see that being a win for adventuring off road.

[@pete2072]

They can be unbolted and removed, but it's not a quick thing. For overlanding it'd be nbd to take them out and leave them out.

[@MIZUNOMP60]

you can order the 130 as a 5 seater, it's a zero cost option

[@hollisterman06]

Expedition Timberline vs Defender 130.... go!

[@jaredhollar]

Now we need a comparison between the 3 row defender and the 3 row jeep grand Cherokee

[@zevihome4809]

I think they should make a 130 pickup, it would be a big competitor to the new luxurious pickup trucks (rivian, gmc sierra, etc.)

[@poopsie117]

0:42 james 😂

[@alancirwin]

This comment section is filled with people who have never driven one. They are awesome. Definitely not the body on frame feel. Pretty athletic/sporty, much smoother ride that you would expect and the engine rips. Transmission is Zf 8 speed so changes gears fast too. They’re even better off road. I’ve been and tried to break it. Was a blast. There is NOTHING in the market like it. Bronco rides like garbage comparatively.

[@heidelbergaren5054]

Next year will see the rugged version

[@stephanematis]

From visual dimensions, prefer the 110. Based on pricing and such, I'll likely stick with the Lego edition and keep my older 4Runner for now.

[@prageeth4855]

0:45 James shows the size of what exactly 👌🏼😅😂

[@RJR164]

i saw this in qatar in white and that look better with bright color

[@BRBNWolf]

Should put some jump seats back in it! Call it the heritage edition maybe two tone the paint.

[@landon390]

🔥🔥🔥

[@vernonhampton6973]

The only thing I would use that for is if I drove for Uber and wanted to ferry people to and from airports...outside of that, when do you carry around 8 people?