2023 new Joying head unit - My greatest complaint

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Do I still recommend this head unit? 100% yes. This is only a video showing the main issue I have with this unit. I miss this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5LCiYyCo79rhs0si=AfJKpLt7qPLquo6F That being said, despite it's shortcomings, I still recommend the unit. Nothing compares to this unit in my opinion, for my applications, and for what I need out of my head unit. Below are affiliate links to the unit I got. If you decide the unit is for you, I'd love if you supported my channel by using the affiliate link(s) below to buy yours. The price is the same whether you use my links or not. I just get a small kickback from Amazon if you do use my links below & that helps support my channel. Cheers 2023 newest joying Android 12 version links below: 13.3" screen (as seen in my video) single din amzn.to/44nGWjg 13.3" screen (as seen in my video) double din amzn.to/3sn6Oia 15.1" screen (if you have the room) single din amzn.to/3QPJR1l 15.1" screen double din amzn.to/3E5hoNg 11.6" screen double din amzn.to/3P7HKo8 11.6" screen single din amzn.to/3smBvnx 10.1" screen double din amzn.to/47K6WIQ 10.1" screen single din w/ knob amzn.to/3QQkOv8 MEASURE to make sure the screen won't block any buttons or air vents on your dash. I recommend getting the single din as that will allow you much more flexibility on how high or low you can install the screen. New Joying AR cameras that double as dashcams / recording cams (only w/ new 2023 Joying head unit that is) amzn.to/3OISfgl Here is the sony microphone I use for the head unit amzn.to/3qR99RQ Why they call the cameras AR cameras... I have no idea. There is no "augmented reality" happening but I do admit they look really good and it's nice that they recording video as well (like the tesla cameras do)

[@leventbuda2294]

Me too,I bought 11.6 inch version. I wanted the 15-inch screen, but I hesitated because I was driving and my hand would hit the switch on the right side.Will my hand keep hitting the screen while on the road or offroad? Is there anything that hinders you with the large screen? I think your old screen was 11.6 inches, this one is 15.1 inches, which size is best for you? Thanks dude

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@leventbuda2294 great question. I got the 13" model now & it definitely has helped to make sure that I hit the right spot on the screen while driving or off-road because I have a bigger screen now whereas when I had the smaller screen I would have accidental touches because of a bump in the road

[@leventbuda2294]

@@ElevatedVehicles So you say 15.1 inch With the screen, there is no impact on the hand while driving. The large screen does not affect driving comfort and does not create any obstacles for the driver. Thanks

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@leventbuda2294 I have the 13" screen and it does not affect my driving. It does get close the to the windshield wiper stalk. I would imagine, the 15" size screen would be very close to the windshield wiper stalk.I haven't seen a 15" size in person however

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@leventbuda2294 do you have a Jeep Wrangler?

[@lilmarshw]

Everything you are talking about can be tweaked. You can have it default to the rear anytime you want. The reason why it's showing the front camera as you're pulling into the garage is because of the sensors you have. I take it the sensors are picking up there's something close so it's automatically defaulting to the front. I could be wrong on this but I can let you know that everything can be tweaked in the factory settings

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Thanks for chiming in. I found out that the reason it changes to the front camera is because the headlights turn on. Unfortunately I don't have any front parking sensors

[@TheJWC56RSA]

I bought my 1st Joying - a 11.1" .... it was expensive and it has a few issues. It surely does not allow multiple bluetooth connections. It is not easy to get good support from Joying... maybe it is the language barrier? However the new Snapdragon chip with his 8Gb of memory seems fast enough.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

The one you bought is it the new 2023 version a different year model?

[@2gnospam]

I wired up my 13.3 unit with a dash on/off switch for the rear camera to be used all the time. When the switch is off, the unit shows the rear view camera in reverse. I wired a diode in line with the wire coming from the backup lights (going to signal the joying that it is in reverse). Thus when the car is actually in reverse the signal goes through the diode and tells the head unit to turn on (~0.7V drop through the diode is negligible). Between the diode and the joying I tap a 12V line in that is connect to this switch. When the switch is on 12V is sent to the head unit thus turning on the rear view camera. The diode prevents current from flowing back to the actual backup lights and turning them on. End result is switch off for normal reverse camera operation, switch on fakes a 12V signal to the joying thus showing the rear view camera all of the time.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Heck yes that's a solid idea.

[@ItsMrAnthony-8a]

You mentioned something very important to me! The screen brightness! The night time resolution is too bright! I have night time at 0 (zero) and daytime at 5%. Daytime bright at 100% wouldn't really bother me cause, hey it's pretty bright during daytime hours anyway! (I'll go into that in just a moment). What I've found is that the white is just too bright! Even with the opacity setting to as extreme orange as possible, the white is too bright! I use Poweramp media player. The artwork is great but i can't bare to have the app open on full screen at night! Now the reason I set my daytime resolution to 5% is I leave out near day break hours. When the screen goes from night mode to day mode, the frosted change in resolution is drastic. It would be nice to have the freedom to go from 0% (zero being off) to 100% and set the the resolutions based on my individual taste. Two things I hate in the morning is bright light and loud noise! If this could be fixed I can live with some of the other quirky things!

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I know exactly what you mean and there is a built-in setting where you can define what the brightness is. It's in the deep settings menu. Here's a video I made showing every single setting. 😎 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGXFh4enlLCmabssi=EQ_AF5A0cfBK3rBs

[@ItsMrAnthony-8a]

OMG! DUDE!!! DUDE!!! THAANNKK UUU!!!

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@ItsMrAnthony-8a heck yeah man you're welcome 🍻

[@okkine]

I don't understand why you need the rear camera running when you're not backing up, but I do agree that it's annoying when companies constantly change things that work fine.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Thanks for chiming in :) reason is I removed my rear view mirror off my windshield. But even if I didn't, I often load up my cargo area to the roof and even if I had a rearview mirror I wouldn't be able to see out the back because all the cargo would be in the way of the mirror.

[@okkine]

Ah, that makes sense! I drive a cube van for work, so I guess I'm just used to not having a rear-view mirror.

[@BRI-b9k]

I want one when I'm pulling a trailer.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@BRI-b9k Yes perfect for that!

[@hugocorreia8927]

For some races footage 😂

[@Pro1er]

Is there not n A/V aux input? You could hook up a second camera for the back. I don't know if it would be bright enough with the top off but I have mirror dashcams in three of my cars which is basically a continuous front and/or rear camera view plus video recorder. If need be you can turn off the power and use it as a regular mirror.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Yes that's true. There is aux video in. Only problem is I can't hear my music if I switch to that source sadly. Which sucks 😔 This was the workaround on the 2021 Joying head unit but this new head unit doesn't let the music through.

[@whatevah666]

How much can you move the screen up / down? i can't seem to find any info or vid. about that, would it be possible to demostrate this ?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Yeah I can demonstrate it. Good idea for future video. I recommend getting a single den instead of the double din. The single din allows for a lot more up and down movement of the screen. On the back of the screen or four pins and you can change where they screw in in order to move the screen up or down. You won't be able to move the screen up or down once you click the headunit in place. However you can take the screen off remove the pins readjust the pins and then install the screen again while keeping the head unit in the dash. It'll just take about 8 minutes

[@darkoz1692]

Vertical adjustment is approx. 2.5cm

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@darkoz1692 damn. Good info. Thank you

[@PackBjammin]

@@ElevatedVehicles This is huge information! Thinking of buying, and was trying to figure out how far above the double din the 12" goes. Living in the south, can't afford to block the air vents for the people in the back.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

In your case I HIGHLY recommend getting the single din unit that way you will have way more options to move the screen lower :) @@PackBjammin and if you like, check out my 40min video that does a huge deep dive into the settings of the system.

[@MrMarkwill62]

great video...Can you advise how well does the cameral work at night? I have a Toyota Tundra with a fairly good night time camera as I have seen so many much worst, and I don't want to go backward

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Exceptional night time view. Below is my review on it at night. Anything Joying related I have a video on most likely. Feel free to look around my channel for Joying content. If it helps consider subscribing. Have a blessed day and here's a link to the video 😎 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZWypqJjfdmoj9U

[@JackofAllMasterofNone]

Have you tried splitting the backup camera signal and plug in it into the video in port and just using the AV app?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I did yes sir. Problem is it will work HOWEVER I can't play any music through my speakers then cause the headunit assumes I'm watching a movie

[@raczyk]

Do these joyous units come out with software updates, fixing any issues such as the backup cam in multiscreen?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

They do come out w/ updates but they haven't fixed the multiscreen

[@bankney49]

Hello my friend...Just ran into a problem and hope you can shed some light on it. We are in northern Canada and if I leave my truck unused, parked in the garage for like 3 days the battery dies. The battery checked out ok this fall . I was wondering what would happen if I installed a switch to break the "Yellow" Battery wire to the Joying stereo unit when the truck is parked for a few days. Many Thanks, Barry

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Hi Barry, Merry Christmas. What year Joying headunit do you have?

[@mayordarling]

I am looking to do the 15.1 Double Din in my 2000 F250. Do you know the dimension of the unit itself? I am really liking it!

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Nice! I don't know them off the top of my head but on the official Joying website they have the dimensions

[@shawnnewman2564]

How do you get the camera to work while you druve ..i have joyin 11.6

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I have a video how I did it on my channel :)

[@shawnnewman2564]

@@ElevatedVehicles ok thanks

[@ulquiorracifer3441]

Did you happen to check the pre amp output voltages on this head unit? Im curious if they finaly updated to 5v on this model

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Yes sir. Getting 5.8v Fordsixhoe has a good video on it as well. The pre-outs voltage is better than Kenwood excellon & alpine now. Joying is like the Kia & Hyundai story. Not good in the beginning but turning things around now

[@ulquiorracifer3441]

@@ElevatedVehicles that's great hear actually. I was also wondering do you know if this head unit supports aptx codec since it has the Qualcomm chip in it?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

​@@ulquiorracifer3441aptx isn't something I'm familiar with so I can't comment if it works out not

[@bbfoto7248]

@@ElevatedVehicles @ulquiorracifer3441 Just an FYI: Even though these Android head units now have up to 5.8v on the RCA preamp outputs, 95% of the car stereo amplifiers on the market are only designed to handle up to ~4v of RCA line level input signal. Anything higher can sometimes overload the input stage on the amplifier. Case in point: I had a system installed a few years ago that used the Kenwood eXcelon Reference DDX9905S double-DIN head unit that has 5v non-clipped RCA preamp outputs. In this system I was also using Alpine's 2nd Generation Type X series PDX-F6 and PDX-M12 amplfiers. Unfortunately, any RCA preamp input voltage that was higher than about 4.2v would overload the input stage on the amplifiers and they would cut out and go into "Protect" mode. Just sayin' that there really isn't all that much of an advantage to RCA preamp voltage outputs that are much higher than ~4v because the majority of amplifiers aren't designed for it, unless you switch them to "High Level" input (speaker level) which are typically much higher at 8v-10v +, and don't optimize the S/N for the system when using RCA line level into the amps. I will check the "Fordsixhoe" videos to see if that 5.8v output is "clean" output with no clipping distortion, unless you have already confirmed this with an Oscilloscope? Cheers

[@zx6rtrey]

What dash kit are you using? Ive got a 2012 ram 2500 that apparently has the same mounting holes in the dash, just trying to see how theyre miunted. Are you using the one for jeeps or a single or double din unit with dash kit?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Hi Trey. I'm using this for my Jeep Wrangler. Double din version amzn.to/3UKmlEN

[@zx6rtrey]

​@@ElevatedVehicles, awesome! Thank you for the quick response! I'll be ordering one very soon.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@zx6rtrey yes sir my pleasure to help. 🙂 Have a blessed weekend & if you think of any other questions, fire away 😎

[@toriblack4875]

so most important to me is audio quality? worth to spend those moneys or just buy Kenwood or alpine?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I can't tell a difference in sound between this Chinese headunit & the name brand (also Chinese) head units Plus the voltage this headunit puts out at the RCA pre-outs has been tested to be above 5v, clean. But I'm not an audiophile either so I may not be the best person to ask

[@m1cajah]

Is that the default launcher? I used to use Android tablets (long time ago) and with the Nova Launcher there were always weird anomalies like that.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

In this video I'm running Nova

[@xpuc70]

I dont even have the button for the split screen for some reason

[@whatevah666]

Valid points, mail suport, they seem to be responsive.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

They are pretty responsive actually. Problem is a couple of us have been asking for them to unlock the Bluetooth for the past 3 years and here we are a brand new head unit that just released and it still has the Bluetooth lockdown. One step forward one step back in typical Joying fashion

[@Ryzza5]

@@ElevatedVehicles I've seen a few comments about bluetooth restrictions but am not aware of the specifics... could you go into more detail before I purchase?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@Ryzza5 here's the nitty gritty in my thread I made xdaforums.com/t/official-2023-newer-redesigned-joying-head-unit-discussion-qcm6125-android-12.4619495/ But of all the head units that I've used in my Jeep and tested, I would still buy this new 2023 snapdragon Joying (personally) nothing comes close to it. If you look on my channel at some of the other videos that I've made about this head unit you'll understand why. Including my 45 minute long video that goes into a deep dive of the settings & sub menus

[@Ryzza5]

@@ElevatedVehicles Thanks for that. Have watched every video on the unit from yourself and Jackofall... and placed an order for a 9" 6125 with volume knob which I presume is also a 2023 edition.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@Ryzza5 I think you'll like it. Did you get canbus module? Or do they make a plug n play adapter so you don't have to splice for your car?

[@TJsVette]

Got mine today, I'm setting it all up but it will not allow me to watch any movies while sitting in park. Did you hook up a bypass? I know on most you just ground it out but wanted to make sure before I try it. I will have to pull everything out to run my RCA cables this weekend but I couldnt wait to see how good it is so far. I like it so far.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I didn't bypass anything for movie watching. However, in settings is a menu to turn off parking brake for movie watching. Unsure where but you'll find it in settings maybe the hidden settings menu

[@gorfercr]

1:04 Thats what she said LOL

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Aye yo 😅 Haha

[@gorfercr]

Im sorry, I saw the chance and I took it ! lol but thanks for the video. I will be buying this unit. There’s one with auto rotation screen but I couldn’t find a video online. Thanks for all the info tho !

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@gorfercr heck yes I love jokes. That's awesome. Have you seen my in-depth review on my channel? It's 40 minutes long & best to put the video on 2x speed. If you end up deciding to get one feel free to use the links in my description (shameless plug 🔌) 😅

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Saw you subscribed! Thanks man. It's mostly Jeep stuff here but I've got more Joying head unit stuff coming in the future along with other car audio stuff. Have a blessed night. Thanks again for subscribing

Have they fixed the weird camera app issues? Considering getting this unit

[@ElevatedVehicles]

They have not

[@ElevatedLiving1]

There's been an update that fixes one of the issues I talked about in this video

[@FoxyBuildsDIY]

Which of the issues was fixed?​@@ElevatedLiving1

[@LAUGHLOUNGE-sn9nn]

Nice video and head unit did you contact them for and update or fix

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I did but in usual Joying fashion they said they will let the engineer know... But rarely does it get addressed unless a lot of people request it. And for this, I'm in the minority

[@KoichiroNakano-yk8gn]

Does this Android 12 unit can connect iPhone hotspot? I’m wondering is it updated since my Android 10 snapdragon unit can’t connect iPhone hotspot according to WiFi security issue🤷‍♂️

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Mine had no problem connecting to my iphone. Perhaps change your hotspot setting?

[@0lamalar0]

did this ever get a fix?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

It did not unfortunately. :( But I am working on an automation that will auto do it when the system turns on for the first time using macrodroid

[@ChanthaNav]

Chinese Head Unit always like this. No manual installation. No customer reply for solution. I purchased one Chinese unit, everything is on reply for the solution. The best, all of you can try Japanese Head Unit is the last choice, but it is expensive.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

True they are getting expensive. It seems Joying did fix some issues we requested. I made a list you can see here 🙂 xdaforums.com/t/official-2023-newer-redesigned-joying-head-unit-discussion-qcm6125-android-12.4619495/

[@chris360s_]

What’s a good Japanese HU?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Japanese... I don't know of any. But a good chinese HU is the latest Joying HU. I got mine from the link in the description of this video. @@chris360s_

[@ChanthaNav]

@@chris360s_ I am sure you can use Pioneer, Keenwood, or nakamichi. But for me I can afford that price yet. I just buy a chinese with low price because my car not a new car.

[@jeromeshockley9572]

The sound processor is what separates Japanese H.U. from Chinese. Apparently, these new Joying H.U. are supposed to have Japanese sound processing chips installed in them.

[@TJsVette]

Is that your factory rear camera or theirs? I'm thinking about buying this one for my camry but I don't want to buy another camera since I already have one back there.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

It's theirs. And I have a video on my channel going over it. It's the nicest rear camera I've seen. It's Tesla quality it's that good

[@TJsVette]

​@ElevatedVehicles gotcha. I was able to find a harness that they make for toyotas that should be plug and play and I'll be able to retain my stock camera. If not then I'll go back and get theirs. I went for the 11.6in screen cause the 13 or 15 will completely block my ac vents lol.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@TJsVette I think you're gonna love it. Glad you found the harness!

[@abbyhassan8527]

are joying reliable over several years?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Not sure. I've only had mine for 3 years

[@abbyhassan8527]

You've not had major issues in 3 yrs? @@ElevatedVehicles

[@ElevatedVehicles]

​@@abbyhassan8527no sir not yet

[@AbstractDreamz]

Why cant you just swap the video RCAs so front is rear and rear is front? I realize that you are frustrated with the software but if the rear cam while driving is so crucial for you, this may be a work around.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Certainly yes. We thought of this. But then if we put the vehicle in reverse to go backwards, it would show front camera instead 😞

[@thegoldensnitch6312]

You can install a $5 change over relay (87a) will invert the reverse trigger output so the headunit thinks your driving around in reverse 👍

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@thegoldensnitch6312 dude! That's true I didn't think about that! Thank you for mentioning it

[@jackblack9872]

what? just switch out the plugs in the back of the radio, front for back.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

True. That could be done easily but I wish it was software compliant so we could define what we want the AR camera to default to. Lastly, if I put front camera on rear line when I go to reverse the front camera would show. Again, because the sofware is made to look at the "rear camera" line. I've played with it and unfortunately it need to be on the software side of things.

[@Sustainavore]

This is enough for me to not buy it, but I want 360 camera as well. Do you have an opinion on the Ekiy T7?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Never had tried an ekiy. Are they pretty slick? I should Google this when I get to the office

[@Sustainavore]

@@ElevatedVehicles they do seem awesome. Saab Unleashed has done some great videos on them. Depending on the seller, there are a bunch of different models, so I'm definitely confused on which one to get, but the T7 is what Saab was recommending very recently.

[@turektomasz]

Those preamp voltages in your other video are really disappointing. I run amps and this is not acceptable for me really. Shame.

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Tom I agree. The 2021 Joying pre-out was dismal. This new one is 3v Glad to see that improved

[@champion31337]

@@ElevatedVehiclesin another vid someone showed with a dmm they are putting out 4.6volt at max volume

[@ElevatedVehicles]

​@@champion31337truth! That's fordsixhoe (I think that's his username) that's hella good! After my firmware update I'm getting about 5.x volts out of mine on my DMM

[@NoReply28]

It an android head unit... can't you just install a different camera app that does what you want?

[@ElevatedVehicles]

I'd imagine but I'm unsure of any on the Google Play store 🫤

[@jimmyjames1807]

first world problem's

[@ElevatedVehicles]

Haha it really is 😅

[@josephdignam123]

Some first world problems are still just as frustrating …! 😊

[@ElevatedVehicles]

@@josephdignam123 big facts 🙂

[@josephdignam123]

I guess people don’t have to like facts… but they do still remain as facts 😂😅