2023 Nissan Z Performance - POV Driving Impressions

-Engine: Twin-turbo 3.0L DOHC V6
-400 hp @ 6400 rpm / 350 lb-ft of torque @ 1600 rpm
-6-speed manual transmission
-Fuel economy: 18 City / 24 Highway / 20 Combined MPG
-Curb weight: 3536 lbs
-MSRP: From $49,990
Options: Floor Mat Package $400
Illuminated Kick Plate $500
Interior accent lighting $445
Destination $1025
Total price as tested: $52,360
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[@cinnabuns8266]

I’m not sure how long I can keep believing that this car is actually in production

[@Justin_GFM]

I’ve seen more Supras and GTRs on the street than this, I’ve only seen one actually and it happened to be at an auto show

[@yusuf8938]

​@@Justin_GFMthat's true man. I live in Atlanta and I've seen one. Literally the same one over and over. I see GTRs 911s, Supras, heck even a GR Corolla more often

[@PRODNXBU]

@@Justin_GFM In Michigan I have yet to see a MK5 Supra. I've seen a spied C8 Z06 however in Grand Rapids months before the Z06 released. I've also seen the Z here in Michigan

[@piskooooo]

i refuse to believe it exists

[@tyler9703]

​@@Justin_GFMSame, I've only ever seen one and it was a dealer demo car

[@XelHound]

As someone who owns a Supra, the Z is definitely a bit of a hard sell in the current market. I agree with Topher in that it should of been priced just a little bit less and it would be a SOLID buy for what you get. Excluding issues with dealerships, Nissan's production line and the MSRP, it's not a *bad* car by any means and if you're blessed enough to be able to afford cars in this price range, you're winning no matter what. I guarantee you Z owner's are smiling every time they get in their car to drive as are the Camaro owners, Super owners and anyone else in the price range. Enjoy it while we got it boys, they're phasing these cars out soon and in another 5-10 years we'll likely only see EV's for sale and in another 20-30 years we'll look back at cars like these as classics and legends of their time.

[@bradwoods371]

It’s depressing for sure, especially with these car companies still using all that coronavirus bullshit as a reason to markup car prices

[@Zach_Beebe]

I’ll drive my ‘22 Miata RF until it blows up or they make gas illegal.

[@shad3128]

Yep, will run my 18 nismo 370z till she don't run no more

[@Jzak25]

20-30 yrs from now, looking for a gas station would be the challenge to fuel these cars

[@CforClairvoyant]

We aint got the infrastructure for “ev only” type shit, but i hear you. Well said about the price range as well. Ima big nissan head but i love all the cars you named in the segment. The Z is a future classic that might fail, which is sad but most consumers nowadays dont like Nissan anymore. I love the car personally.

[@bitbat9]

Good luck finding one of these for $52,000. They’re more like $70k to $90k after the insane markups

[@caglioso]

Exactly, that’s what I’ve been seeing at every dealer that has one. It’s absurd.

[@JohnSmith-qe6fb]

I hope they can eat cars!

[@Vivek.Clips2024]

um... no theyre not lol

[@delmarreese9668]

"Nissan" say they frown upon the dealership mark-ups. Really? Not feeling it.

[@donbuidb]

70k for the Z .Tell the dealer keep the car

[@elwhite1992]

It’s a great street car. The only time I saw one though was at a C&C and it was one of the best looking cars there imo. But it’s still hilarious to me how everyone hyped this up to “show Toyota how it’s done” and it’s done nothing but fall short. Stop sales before production, paint issues etc. If the GR Supra launched in this state, we wouldn’t have heard the end of it. I wouldn’t mind a base model but I’ve seen them all marked up to 50k.

[@uww.v]

It was priced cheaper for the v6 and had a manual, if the Supra didn’t drop with the manual right after it would still hold true

[@aquifer9480]

We couldnt avoid hearing about how bad the new "BMW Supra" was. Pretty much everyone who owned the 3.0 loved it, how bulletproof the engine is (people make 500whp stock on the factory powertrain), its fuel economy can be in the 30s during commuter conditions, ect. The only complaint I can find is visibility (you get that in many sporty hatchbacks) and lack of manual in the first launch. Yes, the new 5.0 is around the same price and arguably a better car, but I just love the design

[@gilboman]

​@@uww.vnot really as you need the performance package to get the basics and that jacks up the price on this ancient relic they resurrected

[@RoMeeHang]

BMW not Toyota

[@Buh_Buh_Bacon]

In Florida can't find one close to MSRP. The last one I went to check was marked up to $69,495.

[@timothyruiz1144]

“Babe wake up, there’s a new Topher video.”

[@gabegonzales8618]

I think the car is beautiful, but I agree with the general consensus that it’s a little overpriced. This would’ve slotted nicely for a buyer who wanted something a little more powerful, bigger then a BRZ/GR86 but not as expensive as a Supra, M2, Camaro Etc. It should’ve been a $43,000-45,000. Then if a Nismo version where to come out price that at $55,000-65,000

[@sriizer104]

Bro, I live in Israel, and this car priced here around 120k$, so what are you talking about? If i could buy this car at least for 70k it would be great!

[@meowexotics6516]

He's talking in us dollars ​@@sriizer104

[@rs-rs6dx]

Finally bought one in boulder gray at 55k and thats after 2 days of cursing and arguing with the dealer, got offers around eastern US states for as high as 68k, thats why no one sees these on the streets

[@Shambles7698]

I see this Nissan Z in person and it's really looking beautiful 👌

[@SychicGamer]

Seeing makes me believe a Q60 400RS with a manual would’ve been such an amazing car. Just like the G35/37 coupes used to be the siblings of the 350/370 and had such a huge following. Its really what kept infiniti relevant tbh. Having the ability to make the Q60 a proper enthusiast sports car and just tossing that opportunity out the window is sad. I miss the old G coupes. Perfect for those who wanted Z performance but just needed a little bit more practicality. I miss mine :(

[@theodenhorselord9766]

Agreed. The G coupes looked really classy. A great car for people that wanted to enjoy a sporty car but keep a more mature appearance.

[@bynjei2530]

I have a 2015 Q60 (last Gen G37 Coupe) Limited Sport 6 spd manual. I’m wanting to trade it in for this New Z. A ton of parts my car has that this new Z has including brakes, upgraded OEM Suspension, etc… I love it and I daily it to work everyday. About to hit 93K miles and it’s Full Exhaust, Ecutek tuned making 322whp on mustang dyno. In a perfect world, I’d love to keep it. But it doesn’t make much sense for a 21 yr old who’s planning for a wedding to have a New Z and my current Q60 at my apartment lol

[@ValFinale]

G coupes were heavy and handled like pure garbage. Made for ppl that “oo i want sporty car” not much else

[@mosswine5417]

U mean like a 300zx 2+2? 😅

[@brq4cars]

Tedward and Topher uploading at the same time again (almost)

[@BigAkwes]

They back to back on my subs list😂😂😂

[@WalnutSkrimp]

and the thumbnails match up lmao

[@Indifference2000]

I kept thinking they were the same guys 😆

[@CarGroves]

Good job Nissan, the limited production run of 3 cars a year will keep the values high. I heard there was a sighting of a yellow one in Canada...

[@ktcyvis]

Spotted a yellow one in Fremont CA :)

[@07wrxtr1]

Well - All 600 Corporations apart of the WEF are colluding to induce artificial scarcity in order to increase marginal costs beyond rates of inflation. It’s almost like they know there will be less buyers around eventually

[@john3107]

I think I saw a golden one in Ontario. What a rare sight.

[@39rbn61]

I think you've been spoiled by how good the type R's shifter is. That's why everything else feels too clunky. 😂

[@brandon_945]

I’m really impressed with Nissan when it comes to this car. I saw one in a parking lot the other day. I’ll never be able to afford it but kudos to Nissan for reimagining a classic design

[@67tomcat]

As a resident of Michigan my entire 55 years, it's truly embarrassing the condition of many of the roads here. Awesome review though and love the new Z.

[@LiteralSparkPlug]

I love how the vents are on the doors I just think that looks super cool.

[@Teromi]

52k seems a bit much for a carryover platform.

[@nah3193]

It's a carryover platform that they slapped an Infiniti powertrain in

[@TT92348]

Everything now is cross-developed, based on a sedan, or is a carryover platform until you get to Cayman/C8 money. It’s pathetic.

[@ZackNakazora1]

​@@TT92348cayman is a shared architecture *cough*

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

Get a 2SS Camaro at that cost

[@JD-co4nq]

Last of the gas vehicles right now. We are coming to the end of a golden age. EVs will be taking over the whole market.

[@MattJelonek]

What a great video, spoken well and yes, what a great video. Looking forward to getting my Z soon!

[@kjblue625]

Cost is way higher compared to the old Z. I’ll get a Supra over this.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

I was so excited when I first heard about the new Z. Twin turbo 6 cyl, 6speed, 40k....I was SOLD. Then it came out, and I was disappointed. Too much money for those performance stats and needed upgrades for track duty. Based on all of the rave reviews and price, I decided on the 6M Camaro SS 1LE and couldn't be happier. The car is an animal and I love taking people for rides and letting others drive it to see their reactions.....priceless memories with a sports car bargain. Thanks for the honest reviews

[@2seep]

However I do understand because of the availability

[@1987whitez]

Oh wow out of all of the people who have driven this Z on youtube you are the only one ever shown the electric seat part of the Z thank you.

[@ihateshysters]

I haven't seen a highway this empty since the start of covid.

[@stephanematis]

Love the looks. As a 240 fanboi since childhood, not much to be said about the exterior. I drove all previous incarnations and never found it to be my match, except for the hatch.

[@Reyd_01]

I loved this car, almost ordered one and wouldve bought a perf one blind with 5k markup on a lot...3yrs ago. Thank goodness time and testing prevailed, because I definitely wont continue with newer Nissan/Infiniti. RIP old JDM.

[@sezuawn3861]

I didn't realize the Z had an exedy clutch from factory, i have one in my 2003 Celica and it feels great, amazing video Topher, been looking forward to this one😁💯

[@Teromi]

it’s part of the performance package

[@tommynobaka]

Imagine when these get into depreciation levels I remember when 240z's were like 5k for mechanically sound examples not all that long ago

[@Williee1976]

THANK YOU TO THE CAR MAKERS STILL OFFERING MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS AND GAS POWERED MOTORS🤲🏿🖤💙🖤🤲🏿💯

[@YawnDaOG]

Amen to that!

[@vitaly062]

People are so thankful for manual transmission cars but the sales stats shows that no one buys any of those, which is the main reason why we see less manual cars over the years

[@DezNutzBich]

Nissan Z/400z Nismo has entered the chat 😅😅😂😂

[@fabrb26]

I'm way more amazed by the tons of road infrastructures and lanes you got for an area that seems almost empty even comparing to my french medieval village that's always so busy with hundred of semi trucks and thousand of cars all day every day. It feel like old NFS Underground games with those huge playground and nobody in the streets

[@sirhomebody3821]

i’m thing i keep getting confused about, are there two tophers? And this was a great video as always

[@Linknelson]

An underrated car, The price is pretty steep, that’s pony car territory. Great vid man.

[@bv431]

I’ve never seen this car on the road. Did they mass produce these?

[@goblinburgers]

You put it perfectly, the price and ADM on top of that, puts the Z in a terrible price point. For a bit more you get the Supra which is just an amazing car and now even in manual. On the other hand you have the brz which is THE driving enthusiasts car imo. I think it should have been 45k for premium, and depending on what Nismo brings 3-5 k more for that version.

[@Vivek.Clips2024]

45 is prob more reasonable 5 years ago lol, now not so much

[@Selrisitai]

@@Vivek.Clips2024 Should it be even cheaper now?

[@Ghost-vr5zg]

That rpm gauge makes it seem like you should always be above 3k, looks like fun.

[@ms3er396]

Add a nice tune or even a JB4 boost controller with 2-3-4 pounds more boost and it would be a lot of fun with no worries about warranty....for the most part. Both did wonders on my RS400

[@rusher38]

The interior and exterior styling is on point. However, it really seems as though these cars have leaned more towards touring than sportiness over the past decade, and this new model really, really shows that. The 370z had brake cooling issues on the track in a variety of tests when it launched. I wonder how this one will do? Regardless, it seems like a lot of effort is needed to get this car to go around a track reasonably quick compared to its competition. Which is a real shame because if you want a sports coupe with a liftback, you don't have many options in today's world.

[@aliamezcua9585]

What’s the difference between sporting and touring

[@rusher38]

@@aliamezcua9585 Primarily comfort. This new Z is fantastic if all you're going to do is cruise around town and down the highway. The suspension design, despite having a front double wishbone, leans more towards comfort. Under heavy braking and cornering, the car has heavy body roll. The car being heavy means you'll really, really feel it. Overall, if you compare lap times for the new Z to the GR86, you'll find that it's not significantly faster around most circuits despite having nearly double the horsepower. The new Z is kind of a boat. It's a fantastic choice if you want an alternative to a Mustang, but it's not nearly as capable as the Supra for performance driving. This ultimately comes down to the fact that Toyota and BMW came together to create a very good car at a very good price, whereas Nissan is working entirely on its own for the new Z. Regardless, the new Z has a certain amount of character to it that the Supra lacks. I'd also argue that it has a bit more charm than a Mustang. If you scrunch numbers to find the most optimal way to spend a dollar, the new Z isn't it. But, if you want something that feels a bit more like an old car, the new Z is it.

[@ValFinale]

@@rusher38 love my brz

[@sunilayya8948]

​@@rusher38 I doubt if 90% of buyers want a track oriented car. Most people in this market need a good looking, fast enough sports car that's also comfortable as a daily driver, not a butt ugly track machine like the supra.

[@ValFinale]

@@sunilayya8948 supras better in every way

[@sethm10]

It’s Jan 2024 and local dealers (Orange County, CA) getting delivery’s around the 29th - though only on avg 1 Performance and 2 Nismos each. Pathetic. At an average of $55K for the Performance, it’s about $5K more then I want to spend. I would like to see: flat bottom steering wheel, power folding mirrors, vented seats, option for no Bose subwoofer for hopefully more storage, and drop the price.

[@Eastcoastcarclub]

It is growing on me, and god those tail lights are so cool

[@kermit1]

I live in LA, and you would think to see quite a few of these. I’ve never seen one on the streets.

[@thedude6810]

I like that interior

[@diegoholguin8019]

Seen black one the other day in Tempe, AZ

[@ordonezelvin]

I’m an 86 driver and this is something that I would love too

[@fabutchy]

Tyre noise in the US highways is always there, it´s because those roads are made of concrete instead of asphalt like in Eurpe.

[@joehenry9546]

I will be buying this exact style car in either the 2023 or 2024 model in 2 years.

[@CubanBeastt]

Its Januray 4 2024 and i have yet to see one of these on the road.

[@85CEKR]

I really loved the 370z, and im just not sure how i feel about this car, it looks great from every angle except the front imo, and probably an unpopular opinion but i wish they keep it an na port injected v6.

[@steveballmersbaldspot2.095]

I wish they'd go back to an inline 6 like the earlier Z's.

[@LegalizeTheNuclearBomb]

the grill looks awful

[@phyzeek900]

I agree but the Nizmo they showed I feel like they made it look better imo🙏🏽

[@overv434]

The new Nissan fs a drivers car

[@mikey.4is]

agree completely, the front end ruins the car

Good video.

[@bmunro8619]

Great video. What are the lyrics to that track you play in all your videos? All I can decipher is maybe “one…twelve one…..one…twelve one…”

[@old1101]

baby gtr lookin fresh

[@thatanimator2724]

bought a 2023 brz here in Japan.. was thinking of a Z as well, but rather spend the remaining money on mods for the brz..

[@scottwong365]

How does it compare to integra type-s? I believe they are similarly priced?

[@josephgaal394]

This, is what i want... Unfortunately, i need a back seat. So, i went with the new type r. I just need something fun to race from work everyday. 😅

[@vivi_75]

SEEEEEESH It's like I have to wait until these mark ups fall off

[@DoSum4Me]

I like this spec… it’s understated. Although for around $60k cdn I think I’d rather get a Camaro SS.

[@m4TT5]

I’m 20 and I just got a 350z as my first car. Looking to get one of these in the future.

[@leksasdf]

10:25 it always makes me wonder how you can get tires to squeal on an on ramp at only a bit over 60, are the oem tyres just that bad or could it be something about the road surfaces in your area.

[@raider4394]

I wonder that too. My 2014 Chevy Malibu takes ramps waay over the suggested speed on not great tires and it doesn’t squeal, so how do these cars do that?

[@leksasdf]

@@raider4394 It might also be just plain brand spanking new tires, that haven't been driven properly in a while. I assume he gets the cars from dealerships, they might have sat for months. Still makes me wonder because I've noticed it very consistently in his vids specifically.

[@raider4394]

@@leksasdf Yea, even on cheapo cars

[@300cmysrt8]

You'd have to know the angle of his turn versus yours. Could be sharper than yours. And the road surface definitely matters. Plus hard to say how much throttle he applies to maintain the speed.

[@occckid123]

Most likely road surface produce different grips.

[@adamcanty8603]

Do you think it's worth buying this or twin turbo my 370z?

[@christopherbassit2757]

Saw one last night whiles I was in my gr corolla

[@user-cg7oq8cy9q]

I have a g37 and looking to upgrade, but man my 2015 has memory seats, fully electric seat adjusters with boulster adjustment, electronic wheel adjustment. Idk why they couldn’t include it as as standard here. Yes its a nissan and a grade under infinity in the “luxury” segment, but its 10 years newer lol

[@scnighthawk3928]

I see 2 of these in Mass already. One in this grey color and one in blue color.

[@gregoryrobey]

What color is this again? Gun Metallic or Gray Pearl? He just mentioned Gray? Hard to compare to the colors on the nissan website.

[@d.b.2917]

I still haven’t seen one in the wild. Are they not selling? Or do we not have enough money for these car prices anymore?

[@bobbyleeswagger8421]

What a beautiful car. I own a 2020 miata convertible right now but would love to get a Z when my miata is paid off in 2 year.

[@divinehatred6021]

miata is really good, this Z is not, if you want thrills just engine swap your miata, believe me, power to weight ratio will allow for greater acceleration that this lackluster 400hp v6

[@nachomandetailingservices1057]

Great review. ❤ I just got one. And loving it alil pricy but it has a good platform. Not sure if I would’ve got the supra because the supra is a BMW. Plus the Z collaborates with its heritage, not like to supra.

[@DB-sd3cw]

For the money a Supra is simply the better buy.

[@MrRJC1991]

I think i have only seen one in person... and i sm not sure if i am making it up in my head

[@Arun999]

It should have a targa like the z32 and 2+2 since the gtr and the q60 are discontinued

[@goatsplitter]

Nissan philosophy: "When everything changes, nothing changes!"

[@Book_Of_RH]

is it just me or do all the electronics sound so.... heavy duty? i kinda love it

[@delmarreese9668]

Done with the Z hype, difficult to find and dealership markup. Keeping my 370Z; owned for 9 years and not one maintenance or performance issue!

[@longboardguy]

Honestly I was excited for this car but not so much anymore. And actually in general of Japanese offerings. I owned 180sx’s among others back in the day. Mabey I’m getting old now I don’t know (35) but I’m more interested and thinking I’m going to wait a year or two and spend my money on the new Ford Mustang dark horse. I think there is more for the money value there now.

[@MrRicardo361]

It is nice but is this really worth that much more than a carefully modified low-kms 370z for about 1/3 of the price?

[@DONNY_LUX]

The door lock/ window control panel looks identical to the one in the FRS

[@kalebjensen6388]

It looks so gooood

[@GhostlordGames]

Surprised you didn't mention the katana blades above the doors...

[@angelo6167]

The new Z really reminds me of a s13 240sx fastback

[@DarkMorthy]

nissan the only japanese manufacturer that is really dedicated to the enthusiasts, never been MIA through the years

[@devilmaycry383]

Unfortunate that this car is not available in the UK the Nismo variant looks brilliant.

[@blackcyborg009]

Why is it not available? UK doesn't need to follow Euro 6 emission rules anymore since UK is no longer part of the EU, right?

[@divinehatred6021]

@@blackcyborg009the funny thing is how co2 is a plant food and nothing bad

[@naren_live]

Aren’t these cheaper than a Supra comparably equipped?

[@19hundoc47]

Don’t performance Zs have the blacked out roof and deck?

[@cameroncomeau-hg3gw]

I find it dumb people want automatic sports cars manual is the way to go when driving a sports car. Going through the gears and having more control over the car is much better than just putting it in drive. If I get a sports car it will be stick shift no way in hell I am buying an automatic sports car . Good review of this manual Nissan Z.

[@07wrxtr1]

Cool story bro

[@Stevie4171]

It’s not dumb considering it’s more comfortable and not to mention faster. Let people drive what they want.

[@DriftLibrary]

I like a lot of the Z but the two things I really don’t like are the door handles and how much the interior looks like it was styled for a video game.

[@InvestWithAlex]

Is this car going to have the same 3.0t issues? Turbo failing, belt snapping

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

It shares the same V6 from the Q series infinites so debatable.

[@TheGroundBeef]

i loved the video but it was hard to hear over the crazy wind and road noise lol

[@Tanner_Teves]

Markups have absolutely killed this car, I have not seen one in person yet and barely see anyone talk about it. Such a shame :/

[@07wrxtr1]

Because dealerships only hire sociopaths and psychopaths, not honest normal human beings.

[@darkdodger137]

Holy road noise. And why is it tuned to make peak torque at 1600 RPMs like a truck?

[@Cold_PHcpm]

I love the new Z but I hope it will be loved by other enthusiast despite of the mark-up and inflation

[@Ttran778]

As a massive Nissan fanboy, I stand firmly that the final product just wasn't the sum of its parts. - recycled FM platform for cost also means low innovation - the VR30DETT, while powerful, doesn't feel like it when compared to the old VQ-s - the blind spots are WORSE than the 370Z, which are known to be kinda bad - this could have been Nissan's answer to the SRT lineup, by perhaps offering a revamped VQ35 (which can handle boost as dailies) and then an upgraded VK56 (which is basically just Nissan's LS1 clone and just as hardy) - the sheer fact that the end buyer pays more to get less overall features when compared to the Supra - oh, and after all this damned time.....the VDC off (traction control) still doesn't disable the YAW sensor from factory (the old Genesis 3.8' could do it, the FRS and BRZ could do it....um...)

[@jackstone8074]

I absolutely LOVE Nissans but I have to agree with you. It just doesn't do justice for the Z badge. Seems cheaply made and overpriced and the engine on this one didn't sound healthy at all idling and this is supposedly a new one? It's pretty and yeah it'll get up and go but it just doesn't feel the same 🫤

[@pascutia]

Noob here when it comes to Z platform. Is there an aftermarket solution for the base model to get the LSD? That’s the sweet spot imo for this car price-wise.

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

Not really. It's better to get one off one of the higher trims but even that's expensive in itself.

[@SvenQ45]

That it came out in the first place is the best about it. Given the money situation they had/have and almost canellation.

[@jeremiahvincentbrazil8521]

My dream car

[@ThatBrownKid25]

Telescopes while saying tilts, tilts while saying telescopes🤣🤣

[@wandr3r180]

I only have one issue with this car, the Front and Back don't mesh. I understand the design philosophy but the 240z front with a 300zx rear is just odd.

[@harrybuhse8622]

Totally agree

[@2mnightowwl]

why do i never saw this car before? he seems underrated

[@zero_to_1000]

That fuel door is massive

[@gecko2000405]

This car belongs in the 40-50k bracket.

[@johnmckenna4256]

I have yet to see one of these on the road, and I live in the most densely populated state in the country

[@joetroyner]

Jersey? If so I haven't seen one here either..

[@johnmckenna4256]

@@joetroyner Yes Sir, Middlesex County

[@denzelmartin6201]

Have you ever driven a g37s manual? And is there a difference between that and the 370z or is it basically the same? That gun metal gray makes that car look so elite. Easily the best color for it.

[@Salvi_J2]

So far ive only seen one in my state and it was in another town for 55k at the dealership💀

[@conradicalized]

It’s hard to sell a GT car with no rear seats in my mind, even if only 2+2. Car looks beautiful though.

[@edo153]

Why does it sound like it’s low on oil or it has broken lifters

[@user-hr2jh2he1d]

It looks like a toys 😊😊😊