2023 Porsche Macan S vs GTS performance

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Nick Murray

Nick Murray

Жыл бұрын

Now that both the 2023 Porsche Macan S and the GTS have the same engine, Porsche say there is 60 HP difference but is there really any performance difference?
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@EdD-ym6le
@EdD-ym6le Жыл бұрын
I knew the Blue one would be faster .
@RevTiberius
@RevTiberius Жыл бұрын
I really give Nick a lot of credit for regularly discussing the price differences in the Porsche range, and asking "is it worth it?". Too many car channels on KZbin, including several from people who really should know better, always just drool over whatever luxury car they happen to be reviewing that day. And of course, common consensus is that the more expensive car is always the better car. But as Nick demonstrates over and over again, that's just not the case. Keep up these great "value-for-money?!" rants. They are a great addition to all the fanboys on KZbin who just run through the features list in their videos. Thank you!
@jamesvelvet3612
@jamesvelvet3612 Жыл бұрын
"Bang for the Buck" will typically always favor the lesser model of most lineups Not only are they (obviously) cheaper with same build quality/engineering/service. Same with options...example: Base 911 with say, one or two options will probably be the sweet spot for the entire Porsche line ;-)
@jasonlee4654
@jasonlee4654 Жыл бұрын
I think most of those reviewers just drive very expensive and unattainable cars and say “this is really good! You should buy it!” As much I find Nick disgusting, he makes good realistic consumer advises.
@ak203
@ak203 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonlee4654 Disgusting? Such a decent man, generous with his time (he has a big time job you know) and helpful to us all, and you find him "disgusting"?
@texasdiesel8045
@texasdiesel8045 Жыл бұрын
Very useful review!
@gbej1
@gbej1 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonlee4654Odd? Yes “Disgusting”? No
@mawcco1
@mawcco1 Жыл бұрын
I just test drove them back to back and noticed the same thing. I mentioned it to the salesman and he couldn't really defend it. Lol.
@redskins5926
@redskins5926 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this comparison, Nick! I'm tired of reading the geezers on the Porsche forums who say that the Macan S is a pathetic offering compared to the Macan GTS even for 2022....I think this video proves them wrong.
@NickMurray
@NickMurray Жыл бұрын
They are 100% wrong
@jmb2027
@jmb2027 Жыл бұрын
2020-2021 Macan, GTS is the sweet spot. 2022+ Macan, S is the sweet spot.
@tanjoseph8851
@tanjoseph8851 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy Nick’s video, down to earth content and detailed comparison between models 👍
@stuartpayne3983
@stuartpayne3983 3 ай бұрын
Great, honest video! Amazing how many KZbinrs out there fail to cover the basic stuff people want to know, but this video gets straight to the point and tells you everything you need to know, and nothing you don’t . Great job!
@Alex.AL_26
@Alex.AL_26 Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting forever for this video! Especially since I just ordered a Macan S last month. I dropped everything at work to watch it as soon as it was posted.
@benbustama3430
@benbustama3430 Жыл бұрын
Nick brings a unique presentation to auto journalism. I like it. He’s funny, self deprecating, sincere, knowledgeable, witty, and fair. He keeps it down to earth. Well done video/presentation. I agree with Nick on all points! Had the S & loved it. Cheers/B
@mcolegt
@mcolegt Жыл бұрын
Why don't you marry him! Lol
@ayrton_rambles
@ayrton_rambles Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! The race results did look like it could be a difference of 60hp in my book. A 10hp difference would've made the race virtually a tie, the GTS wouldn't have been able to pull away like that. I don't think Porsche is fibbing, but the peak hp number only tells part of the story, it comes down to where it's making the extra horses in the powerband and for how much of the power band it's making them. I think this is a great illustration of how a raw hp number won't necessarily equate to more performance in the real world. This video should serve as a good check for those who want a GTS just because of the hp figure. it's a lovely car but the extra hp isn't where the GTS's value is.
@renardnelson5456
@renardnelson5456 Жыл бұрын
60hp difference between 2 otherwise equal cars is massive. Especially 40-100+ mph. Keep in mind… it’s the exact same engine and turbos in each car. Just a different state of tune or not😉. My guess is 410hp vs 430hp. Which would make feel silly paying more for the GTS branding.
@jasdennis126
@jasdennis126 Жыл бұрын
Virtually the more plausible explanation to get the GTS is if you are ordering it to personalize it. That race was not a 60 HP difference for two vehicles that weigh the same and with the same engine.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 Жыл бұрын
Nick's comment of the year "I wouldn't want it any stiffer". Great video mate 👌👊
@declansdad
@declansdad Жыл бұрын
That's what she said!
@andrewlawson4901
@andrewlawson4901 Жыл бұрын
You are one of my favorite car youtuber. Love the fact that you are able to speak ''normally'' and genuinely to your audience. A lot of car youtuber seems to be transitioned to a way too formal presentation or obviously trying to put a show, which loses some authenticity along the way
@michaelpluznick
@michaelpluznick Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a straight ahead and honest review. Very useful for me! Great job. Love all your videos.
@antoinepageau8336
@antoinepageau8336 Жыл бұрын
"Welcome to Porsche, please leave your wallet at the door"
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 Жыл бұрын
You walk in knowing you are going to be ripped off. As long as you understand that there is no value for your dollar, that it is a luxury purchase that no other brand can replicate you can be happy. $600 for a painted keyfob? GTFOH!
@rayc325
@rayc325 Жыл бұрын
Just don’t walk thru the door!
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 27 күн бұрын
@@cvn6555 - Yep. Their rapey prices are idiotic. I feel embarrassed for them sometimes.
@Cobnapint
@Cobnapint Жыл бұрын
I wish there were more honest comparison video reviews like this. Excellent stuff.
@apollineire
@apollineire Жыл бұрын
This the review I was waiting for! Collecting my Macan S tomorrow after 8 months since putting the order. Thanks Nick
@markdschedler
@markdschedler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Nick. My wife drives a 2017 Base Macan. We have had no problems of any kind. However, the caliper covers on the front are flat black and the rears are gloss black. I really appreciate the comparisons but hoped you’d include a comparison list of which I could take a screen shot. I would also like your rating on the room in the back seat of cars for tall people.
@nareshkarani7338
@nareshkarani7338 Жыл бұрын
Dear Nick - I got so impressed with this video of yours that I am now a subscriber of your channel. I am a super big fan of the Macan S to the extent that I have two of them - a 2017 Macan S 3.0L V6 TwinTurbo 340bhp since June 2017, and now got delivery of the 2022 Macan S 2.9L V6 375bhp in March 2022, and I so much appreciate your analysis that the GTS is just a "placebo" option that has very little difference to the Macan S that is the "sweetspot". It re-endorses my choice. A wonderful video that highlights blatantly the reality of Macan GTS. Thank you.
@poogan2000
@poogan2000 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I saw you driving the Green Macan today on 95 North. I was driving my 991 Cabrio in the next lane but you exited onto the Milford Connector. Regardless, the green color looks amazing. And of course the green color of Kiwi, the fruit, and your being from NZ makes the plate “A-Kiwi” on the Green Macan priceless.
@UALHVY
@UALHVY 4 ай бұрын
My wife just bought an S. We went to look at a GTS but found a beautiful, very well appointed S for much less in her favorite color (Chalk). Awesome car.... it's getting wrapped and a ceramic coating this week.
@zoner__
@zoner__ Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back in the saddle with a new typical outstanding video. Thank you.
@ThesGt
@ThesGt Жыл бұрын
great video, your videos are always spot on, you helped me get my first Audi A3 a few years ago and now im looking for an SUV and was thinking on a macan! thanks
@sydh.7837
@sydh.7837 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent review. The plain sincerity was so refreshing. I was on the fence and deciding between the S and the GTS and you just helped me make my mind and helped me save $15,000. That was awesome and thank YOU!
@shelloiluk
@shelloiluk Жыл бұрын
This is a great video thanks loads. I got out of my 992 911 S last year and was considering the Macan GTS as I used to have a Macan S Diesel back in the day 2018. Your video has me reconsider and to buy thr S
@jimf7654
@jimf7654 Жыл бұрын
Nick, appreciate your honesty and refreshing approach. You are my go-to for Porsche advice 👍
@fredmann4088
@fredmann4088 Жыл бұрын
What about TPN TV!! 🤣
@ifreezn
@ifreezn Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nick. Been sleuthing down this comparison myself and wondering if the S isn't just under-reported. Much appreciated
@bbbbccc1717
@bbbbccc1717 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick. Was deciding between a Macan S and Macan GTS and your video popped up!
@PcyTrail
@PcyTrail Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information you share with us! My Macan S is coming this month and I took your advice against my dealer's recommendation for a GTS. The light colour interior looks mega though, I kinda regret going for the safe black interior.
@robrowman6156
@robrowman6156 8 ай бұрын
Black interior all day. With a black car and black rims and black windows abs black accents 🖤
@PcyTrail
@PcyTrail 8 ай бұрын
@@robrowman6156 I have mostly dark interiors on my cars haha. I got a beige CPO Panamera for cheap this year, the car market is pretty slow here in China for 2023.
@deanfisher1656
@deanfisher1656 Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 Macan GTS. Loaded out. Love it. My 911 on stilts. Please note that unless you have the GTS in Sport plus mode vs sport…..you haven’t dialed up the mapping to maximize the HP and Torque figures, not to mention the PDK mapping. The options standard on the GTS and the lower profile is great. You mention the exhaust….wow, it’s great. The big deal with the GTS is the chassis. I do like the S grille better…..but ordered mine in Smoke grey and it looks sinister. Thanks for an intriguing review.
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Жыл бұрын
I spotted that as well, when I run sport vs sport +, the GTS is far more aggressive and lively. Definitely different mapping and shift more aggressive also. Run it again using sport+, and ffs do a launch as well? Guessing this won’t happen as it doesn’t suit the narrative of ‘the S is the best’ each to their own. GTS for me, chassis and suspension setup is incredible
@MrBeckPJ
@MrBeckPJ Жыл бұрын
Aren't the chassis the same between the two models? Pretty sure they are...
@deanfisher1656
@deanfisher1656 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBeckPJ hi Peter…..you get upgrades that are not standard on the S, but some can be optioned…….but then one might as well purchase the GTS. Good question. Best
@Gukimuk
@Gukimuk 3 ай бұрын
Mine (GTS) has the Chrono package and it's definitely more more aggressive when Sport+ or Chrono. From Porsche they told me if I buy all options on the S the GTS has already then S would cost more... But Europe probably totally different Market.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 27 күн бұрын
@@CraigK80 - Obviously you want the GTS, he's just saying that if money's an issue, buy the S as the performance gain with the GTS is negligible.
@milesofcrypto
@milesofcrypto Жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 Macan S on order. Fully loaded with $30k+ options.. I got the S model at MSRP sticker.. they wanted like 20k over sticker for a gts. The S model with all the options was cheaper. I plan on pumping the performance up anyway with some help from Flat 6 Motorsports. It doesnt arrive until October this year.. Super excited.
@Regentrinker
@Regentrinker Жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much for this video ! After a config torture, tomorrow I will sign for the S.
@rogeradshead7345
@rogeradshead7345 Жыл бұрын
Geetings from NZ. Sorry I missed your get-together down here! Nick, this is an awesome and informative video: one of your absolute best, and I love the thought bubbles! I have a Euro 6 Diesel S with air suspension, 21-inch 5-spoke wheels, 18-way seats, full sunroof and some other goodies in Sapphire Blue. Fantastic MPG and absolute torque for getting through all those curves. Would I swap to a GTS if offered?...probably not. Thanks again.
@francoisbalavoine1316
@francoisbalavoine1316 Жыл бұрын
Just can't wait to see the 911 comparison of the S and GTS... looking forward to it!!!!!! Thanks for the excellent video!
@scottcowan6798
@scottcowan6798 Жыл бұрын
Having owned the first gen Macan S with the 3.0 and a Cayenne S with the 2.9, dropping the 2.9 in the Macan will have made a world of a difference even if it was “detuned”. Excellent review as always Nick!
@lesgrossman9492
@lesgrossman9492 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 Macan S 3.0L and just got my 2022 S 2.9L 2 weeks ago. It is a massive upgrade. The 3L isn’t a bad engine at all but the 2.9 is a totally different animal.
@RaptorAMify
@RaptorAMify Жыл бұрын
Great review Nick. In the process of buying the Macan S having come to the same conclusion. Other point to note is that replacing the PSCB brakes on the GTS will be a much more costly affair when compared to the brakes on the S. Also good to know that the air suspension is excellent….have added it to the spec.
@billh1928
@billh1928 Жыл бұрын
I have the air suspension on my Turbo Cayenne, and Nick is absolutely right, it's worth it. Get it. I love it.
@JCizzleSoCal
@JCizzleSoCal Жыл бұрын
Cool so you’re going to spec a Macan S to be more like a GTS!
@RaptorAMify
@RaptorAMify Жыл бұрын
@@JCizzleSoCal jip the macan s is better value in the long run....also paying extra for black trims seems cost ineffective.
@Coupe-rp4mi
@Coupe-rp4mi Жыл бұрын
Great review Nick. You sold me on choosing the “S” over the “GTS” model! Well done!
@stuartbrowning3074
@stuartbrowning3074 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2019 facelift, Macan S, it’s the previous 3 litre model. Having also driven the latest 2.9 litre GTS, I think my car is more tractable in the lower rev range? Particularly noticeable in Normal-Mode! Excellent review!!
@nathanmasseyRU40
@nathanmasseyRU40 Жыл бұрын
Having received my blue Macan S 4 months ago, I have been wondering if I should have spent more for the GTS engine. I love everything about my S with painted exterior package that gives me more blue than GTS! My only complaint is normal mode changes gears way to low, so I just drive in sport mostly and sport plus occasionally. Did you try both cars in sport plus to see if much difference? Wonderful video for your viewers-honesty over hype always appreciated.
@DMCarReviews
@DMCarReviews Жыл бұрын
Hey! I drove a Macan S. In normal/comfort, there is quite a big amount of noticeable lag off the line. Sport does help mitigate some of it. The handling was really comfortable. Wasn't really different from the Macan Turbo I tried.
@michalish.4513
@michalish.4513 Жыл бұрын
Finally, the video I had much awaited for. Thanks Nick!
@michalish.4513
@michalish.4513 Жыл бұрын
After I watched you video Nick, I am glad I ordered the Macan S 😉
@Alex.AL_26
@Alex.AL_26 Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this video as well since I just ordered a Macan S last month
@ogdenwernstom4085
@ogdenwernstom4085 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video. I ended up getting a 2023 GTS (traded in my 2018 S) because I wanted to grab a few of the performance options, air suspension, sports exhaust, etc and by the time I did, the price difference wasn't big enough to justify the increased depreciation of the highly optioned S. Both are great cars. Thankfully I got my order in before Porsche decided to increase the price for all their models without any sort of update to the Macans.
@kingstrike
@kingstrike 11 ай бұрын
One of the best and reasonable Macan S vs. GTS review I ve watched.
@salvatorebattinelli894
@salvatorebattinelli894 Жыл бұрын
Nick, I throughly enjoy watching your car videos, I find your presentation both informative, entertaining and credible. Please don't let the nay-sayers get to you, keep up your videos and chats. Maybe time for an update on your 993? Keep the flag flying.........
@EvilBaggOBolts
@EvilBaggOBolts Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see you !
@stefanwehner8883
@stefanwehner8883 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick! After two Macan S 3.0 I bought a Macan S 2.9 as tested in the video. The Macan S delivers, even on a German autobahn. I never missed the 60 hp compared to the GTS. Top speed (tach) is next to 170 mph and the car isn't nervous at all (but the passengers are). One comment: In Europe, the GTS comes with standard PSCB (coated brakes, not carbon brakes!). Replacement cost: USD 14 k for all 4 discs and pads. The standard brakes on an S come for approx. USD 2 k.
@jptak1969
@jptak1969 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick! As a former Macan owner (2017 base), and having spent a lot of time in various loaners (good relationship with my dealer has had me taking lots of them on extended test drives) and (until an unfortunate race car accident caused me to cancel) as someone who had a 2022 GTS on order... I have a question for you. One thing that was immediately noticeable when comparing all of the models vs. GTS in the PREVIOUS generation (2015-2018): the PDK tuning. The S, the base, and even the Turbo, always felt "lazy" with the PDK tuning. Wanted the higher gear all the time, took its time to downshift when rolling into the pedal, etc. The GTS, by comparison, was always quick to grab a downshift, always ready to go. That in itself made the GTS feel much more spritely when driving around.... and it's what made it a "no brainer" for me to order the GTS over the S. I drove a 2018 GTS for a few days, and a 2021 Turbo for a few days - and while there was an obvious HP gap between the two (expected).... the Turbo felt lazy thanks to the PDK. Did you notice anything like this, in your comparisons of the 2023 S vs. GTS?
@510TREEZY
@510TREEZY 7 ай бұрын
I guess I gotta drive a GTs because the 16 turbo I drove was slow to me
@981_pdk3
@981_pdk3 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. One thing I noticed as you said you were running Sport mode and you can see that on the display. Car wow just tested the Macan GTS vs all model Porsches and the Macan kept up with the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 for at least half of the drag race over 1/2 mile starting in Sports + mode. In the Sport mode it didn’t do as well. Note it is possibly missing sports chrono as not standard in UK so may be even better.
@The_Renaissance_Guy
@The_Renaissance_Guy Жыл бұрын
An another great video. By the way, where can I buy the windshield tripod that you used in this video?
@jeremybaker5021
@jeremybaker5021 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an S on order ( couldn’t afford the GTS) this video makes me feel a lot better !Thanks Nick
@PH-md8xp
@PH-md8xp Жыл бұрын
Good candid review as always. Looking to buy a Macan S when and if I fall out of love with my X3. Always fun to watch your videos. The Macan on blocks in the configurator was priceless :)
@Harpreet06
@Harpreet06 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I didn't know there was this little difference. I'll definitely check out the macan s too, although I was leaning towards the f pace svr
@JCizzleSoCal
@JCizzleSoCal Жыл бұрын
The F-Pace SVR is a monster compared to the Macan!
@BirdcontrolaustraliaAu
@BirdcontrolaustraliaAu Жыл бұрын
I went from a 2014 SQ5 to a 2018 Macan GTS. Really miss the turbo diesel push back in the Audi but the drive and handling of the Macan is second to none. Great honest videos. Love it. Thank you
@JoyceWanjiru-ub7pq
@JoyceWanjiru-ub7pq 5 ай бұрын
Great one sir, interns of maintainability which one is better
@BirdcontrolaustraliaAu
@BirdcontrolaustraliaAu 5 ай бұрын
@@JoyceWanjiru-ub7pq The SQ5 I had no problems with until 5 years when I had to replace an injector. The Macan GTS I have had for a year now, coolant leak, piece of trim broke and rear diff bearing replaced. Lucky all under warranty,
@JoyceWanjiru-ub7pq
@JoyceWanjiru-ub7pq 5 ай бұрын
@@BirdcontrolaustraliaAu I love these 2 cars but I can't stomach reliability issues. Thanks alot for the info.... maybe I should go with SQ5
@ttjoseph1
@ttjoseph1 Жыл бұрын
Two cars I won’t buy but you still make the comparison fun to watch!
@doublejdj1
@doublejdj1 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a 2022 S and added 20k in options. Still more options for the money than you can get with a GTS (-9k to be exact) and with my spec you can not tell it’s not a GTS. I love my S
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 Жыл бұрын
Did that with my 2017 S. Took GTS money and turned it into options…..which, in terms of Porsches cost, out-accelerate a Saturn V. When I got done, I had very ( to me ) desirable suspension and exhaust options and was still about 10K back of the GTS. The exhaust option was pretty funny. I asked the sales rep what an “exhaust package” was….. In true Porsche fashion he replied….”about 3 grand.” Oh…..ok…..yeh, I’ll take it…..((((: It has been a phenomenal car / SUV. Of course, I’m taking it in for a new transfer case…….incredibly common problem……and covered by Porsche. Buying a matching 911 Carrera 4 as soon as the allocation comes through……. Incredible cars……
@Wire-Free
@Wire-Free Жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real! I'm starting to think the S is the sweet spot for my needs too; since I'll never be racing my SUV on a sports track with my Porsche, lol.
@thefridgeman
@thefridgeman Жыл бұрын
991.1 GTS vs S...no contest. The way that car sounds and goes, it's amazing. Press the "sport plus" button and let it rip. Too bad it had those weird spoke paddles for the PDK.
@MegaGecas
@MegaGecas Жыл бұрын
Great and entertaining video for me, Nick, even I would never buy Macan for myself. I hate SUVs. Keep on going like this. Cheers!
@Josue-411
@Josue-411 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest review. It’s refreshing to find a KZbinr that doesn’t just parrot manufacture marketing material. I love Porsche products, but even I can’t stand the way they ‘nickel & dime’ their customers over options that should be standard in vehicles in this price range. A luxury brand acting like an entry level brand is never a good look.
@susanyatsko789
@susanyatsko789 Жыл бұрын
i have a 2022 macan gts. when i spec a s model with same options on my gts the price is the same....why would I not pick a gts. both at current prices..
@NickMurray
@NickMurray Жыл бұрын
This is true, sometimes it is well worth getting the GTS based on price if you are getting a bunch of options! ❤
@donaldduck8079
@donaldduck8079 Жыл бұрын
Because I may want options that don't come standard with a GTS. And, I may not want some features that come standard with a GTS like PSE and have to pay extra. Different buyers have different needs and wants.
@lolpaladins
@lolpaladins Жыл бұрын
I have a lightly specced 22 macan GTS, I couldn't spec a S to how I wanted without getting "almost" as expensive. Biggest differences for me: I got the 8 way sport seats, which aren't available on the S (I don't use any lumbar or need extra thigh bolsters because I'm only average height) nor do I want the seats to hug me any tighter (they are already tight enough as is). I really was put off by the plastic trim options on the S. If there is really anything I didn't really "need" on the GTS it was the sports chrono and the coated brakes. Also, I'm very happy with the alcantera headliner, and expensive option, but one that I do not regret. I guess if I liked the wheels that came on the S, it would help the S more, but I'm sure their marketing department knows that people will pay the 3000 just to avoid those ugly wheels. Biggest complaint, being blinded by the piano black interior on the center console on bright summer days, where I live windshield tint is illegal, but I may have to risk the ticket.
@TheVekize
@TheVekize Жыл бұрын
Hm, i ordered Macan S my way, Sport Chrono, PSE,air suspension, leather upgrade, white gauges, heated gt steering wheel, performance oriented, $84140,and similar GTS with same options was still $13000 over... I drove both cars, and i didn't feel any significant difference... Steering is beautiful, brakes, fit and finish... I think we can see difference in last 1000 rpm...
@melondoc
@melondoc Жыл бұрын
I used to have a 95B.1 and for me the standard air ride and PTV+ and lower PASM were well worth it (we have lots of curvy roads here) - the other interior and exterior options were icing on top. I do agree if the GTS is more expensive than an S optioned the same way, the GTS badge alone isn't worth it.
@note20ultra37
@note20ultra37 Жыл бұрын
Nick love these videos we need more. Do these for the 911 range would be epic
@DFWCNC1
@DFWCNC1 Жыл бұрын
The above is a scam.
@donaldduck8079
@donaldduck8079 Жыл бұрын
Nice job on pissing off some GTS fans on the Macan forum! Always love your no BS reviews. By the way, contrary to what the pinned user said about GTS being the same price as S spec'd with options, it depends on which options are chosen. If you choose options that don't come standard on GTS the price gap you mentioned remains.
@ninghing
@ninghing 4 ай бұрын
I configured and ordered a '23 S and have been twisting myself up thinking if I should have just paid up for the GTS instead. I'm glad I didn't after watching your video. Thanks! 😅
@lvnthedrm
@lvnthedrm Жыл бұрын
Love your channel Nick!
@robertallen5210
@robertallen5210 7 ай бұрын
Excellent review and valuable to watch.
@davidhughes9779
@davidhughes9779 Жыл бұрын
Unless you want the options that are standard on the GTS. When I optioned an S up with 21" wheels, PASM, Sports Exhaust, Sports Chrono (all standard on GTS in Australia) there was very little difference in price. I also like the GTS seats and some of the styling of the GTS which adds to the value I see in the GTS. And a stock GTS should always have a higher resale price than an optioned up S (who pays for options on a second hand car?) so in my opinion it's worth the extra couple of grand even if there isn't a huge performance difference.
@gtrblackhawk
@gtrblackhawk Жыл бұрын
Are the gear ratios the same for both? Not that I am in the market but both seem amazing!
@mylesurquhart
@mylesurquhart Жыл бұрын
Look at the torque figures for the S and GTS and you'll see why there's very little difference in pickup. On the older Gen 1 cars, it made sense to upgrade from the GTS to the Turbo Performance as the power and torque increase were worth it, but I agree here and would pick the S out of the two.
@caffinemc1
@caffinemc1 Жыл бұрын
Good honest Nick consumer advice.. 🎉 more please…
@marcwong3375
@marcwong3375 Жыл бұрын
After watching this Im glad to have chosen the S. I have a 2022 with premium +, sport chrono and 18 way seats
@TML34
@TML34 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy the juxtaposition of the classical music intro followed by Nick Murray in a ridiculous t-shirt. lol
@waynebelton5445
@waynebelton5445 Жыл бұрын
I ordered a new Macan S back in February. I couldn't justify the price difference here in the UK for a GTS. A few nice options, and I have a well specced S on order. The only problem is that coming up to August, I've still not had a build date. And TBH I don't expect one this year. Who knew all those essential car parts were all made in the Ukraine? More like Manufacturers delaying petrol / diesel cars to push EV's to lower their overall emissions to meet targets. 2 year waiting list for a 911, but you can have a Taycan within 6 months !!! Obviously EV's don't have all those electronics petrol cars need !!
@scootertooter6874
@scootertooter6874 Жыл бұрын
Nick, great video. You'll NEVER shut down those who choose to let their quest for the "biggest, bestest, fastest, costliest, mostest options" run away with their emotions and pocketbook. For some, it is akin to someone being completely obsessed with buying a set of speakers that are "....SO good, the human ear can't hear the full range of sound they put out..." It's a completely personal decision that frankly has more to do with ego than with the cars...if someone thinks they are an Einstein for buying a GTS, wonderful. Both cars are equally great-- depending on one's priorities and desires.
@ilanbandary4435
@ilanbandary4435 6 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha
@ilanbandary4435
@ilanbandary4435 6 ай бұрын
I've driven both and the s doesn't feel like a real Porsche, everything from the exhaust, to the transmission tuning, to the engine tuning, The bigger brakes, better interior, and air suspension. On the used market the gts is a no brained
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 Жыл бұрын
Love to order mine with the specific options I want! Hmm, I wonder how long the wait is?
@stephenlane9168
@stephenlane9168 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Nick. I would get the S with additions and be happy. 👌👏
@nickzarnetske9994
@nickzarnetske9994 Жыл бұрын
"It doesn't matter if you win an inch or a mile, winnings winning." Dom
@mammelond
@mammelond Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick.. Thank you for your hard work and wonderful video's through the years.. I truly look forward to them every time.. Well done. Would you please considered doing the same type of video with the 718 2.5 L and 4.0 L side by side like you did with this one.. Comparing chassis and engine responses at varying rpms and torque..Which one is better on b-roads and so on... .I know you talked about the two different 718's in the past, but I felt you did not really compare them with the same quality. Thank you again and keep on posting your love for Porsche...
@garykercheck9291
@garykercheck9291 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2018 718 with the 2.5L. I would trade it in a heartbeat for the 4.0L GTS if there were any availability. Having said that, I'm betting real world acceleration, the 2.5 L is even if not slightly ahead until triple digit speeds. What it lacks in sound (and believe me, it lacks) it makes up for in real world drivability.
@tomingrassiaimages8776
@tomingrassiaimages8776 Жыл бұрын
Watched video even though no interest in Macan . Just love Nick videos.
@dennisrothschild8550
@dennisrothschild8550 Жыл бұрын
Just got my 2022 macan s and it is just such a great car.
@yinyangthang
@yinyangthang Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thanks, Nick.
@williamscott7763
@williamscott7763 Жыл бұрын
Nice review Nick!
@jt3sd
@jt3sd Жыл бұрын
my 1st gen '17 GTS is awesome , would still pay more for a '23 if I was to get a new one - like the extra options
@jackholmes8105
@jackholmes8105 Жыл бұрын
Curious if porsche numbers the parts numbers for the S and gts different(specifically suspension components and drivetrain. Also if anyone who does aftermarket tuning for these cars has run both on the dyno .
@yanmcrae6106
@yanmcrae6106 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, when I added the options to the S that I wanted it would have cost more than the the GTS...that is why you get the GTS. Sure, could have skipped some options but in grand scheme of things it was insignificant amount of money. In the previous generation of Macan the GTS was the obvious choice.
@pt99810
@pt99810 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Terrible touch panel controls; probably a blend of fashion and cost reduction. Excellent point re. GTS- vs - S. I tried both and couldn't feel much difference at all; both felt anaemic compared to my Jaguar 5.0 V8 with same BHP rating. Think I may change spec of my order to delete sunroof and add sport chrono package to minimise the issue with seeing control areas.
@MrRepensteeltje1
@MrRepensteeltje1 10 ай бұрын
I love this candid car test!!
@Pearl3Drummer
@Pearl3Drummer Жыл бұрын
Awesome love the content!
@michasukiewicz1172
@michasukiewicz1172 Жыл бұрын
I have 3.0l model as yours. How would you compare it to GTS MY23? I was thinking about replacing my S with GTS as the last combustion Macan.
@1sanmartan
@1sanmartan Жыл бұрын
Hola que tal, excelente comparacion. Pero que opinan en habilidad y mejor sensación entre MS y MT 2023 en camino con curvas . Cual me recomendarían ?
@EdD-ym6le
@EdD-ym6le Жыл бұрын
My cousin just got a new white base Macan (wifes car) and says its the best car he's bought , really likes it . Having ordered it last year he said could have sold it easy . Says it's plenty fast enough for him and especially his wife .
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 Жыл бұрын
They should never drive an S or GTS Macan. After driving those the base model feels pokey.
@Unknown-yc2xj
@Unknown-yc2xj Жыл бұрын
Nick does a great job. Only complaint is I wish he had more content. I realize this isn’t his job however. B
@josephlai1078
@josephlai1078 5 ай бұрын
Great video Nick. I have a 2016 Macan S and recently decided to trade in for a new one (the cost of out of warranty replacements are adding up). I currently live in Taiwan where we have a 10% luxury tax after a certain selling price. Given the new price adjustment of Macan S, it crossed that threshold this year unfortunately. After selecting the same options that came with the GTS, the price difference is a bit less than USD 10,000. Also, Macan S is a more popular model, so the wait will be longer wait than the GTS. Needless to say I went with the GTS model. I totally agree with your review and that 90% of the time, a Macan S is more than adequate and pure joy for urban/suburban outings and some weekend long distance drive. I guess my point is that the perceived and actual difference between these two models sometimes come down to the geographic location and allocation. In fact, the price of a Macan base model in Taiwan is comparable to the Macan S in the US.
@JF-ns5zs
@JF-ns5zs Жыл бұрын
Hey Nick which mount are you using for your GoPro on the windshield there?
@NickMurray
@NickMurray Жыл бұрын
MyGoFlight it is an aircraft mount
@Cool12354
@Cool12354 Жыл бұрын
Best 911 Porsche channel ever somebody give this man more money
@jonhenderson
@jonhenderson Жыл бұрын
Acceleration at low speed is mostly determined by torque output. Power and gearing determine top speed. So without reading the specs I would guess the cars have similar torque output but the GTS does indeed have higher power. By way of example, a 2000 Audi RS4 has around 45% more power than a 2000 S4 but only 10% more torque. The RS4 only knocks around half a second (10%) off the 0-60 time.
@tabacaru
@tabacaru Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. I want to share something with you. I don't know why, but when I watch your videos, I fall asleep the best. I do not know why. Maybe because of the sound of Porsche engines. Or because of your voice. (We both know it's because of your angelic voice).
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 4 ай бұрын
Do you have any opinions/insights on the Burmester sound system vs the standard Bose?
@JUFFAIR101
@JUFFAIR101 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick ! If you have option to buy a Carrera GTS with Carrera S rims or Cayenne turbo GT which one do you choose? Even better with the colors for both cars 😬, thanks
@NickMurray
@NickMurray Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why anyone would want the Cayenne Turbo GT, so I am going with Carrera GTS all the way.
@holymolys7692
@holymolys7692 Жыл бұрын
Nick, X3M vs Macan S which one to choose
@pm7805
@pm7805 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, which Macan model would be a car that can be more reliable for a daily driver?
@sn5101
@sn5101 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the review, but I don't get it since it's too vague. Yes, S and GTS are very close in performance, but they are also very close price wise, if you spec the S to have all the GTS trims. In this case, just go for the GTS. At the same time, you can spec the S to be very different from the GTS. Then go for the S. Separately, more HP does not show nearly as much from 0-60, then it shows at higher speeds and that rolling race is as accurate as the Porsche marketing department :D Handling at low speed almost-straight road, of course will be hard to distinguish as well. All in all, I agree they are really close, but at the same time, the review does not do a brilliant job at showcasing that very accurately :/
@steffydog
@steffydog Жыл бұрын
Doing it for the people, cheers Nick 👍
@emmanuelapac3315
@emmanuelapac3315 Жыл бұрын
Lovely comparison of the S and GTS models. The funny Configurator glitch is hilarious. I imagine if your vehicle tires ever to get Nicked! The spare 10 grand would come in handy🤣. I prefer the S model.
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