2023 Toyota bZ4X (AWD Limited) - Highway Range Test | Real-world MPG

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Жыл бұрын

It's a shame that the all-new Toyota bZ4X doesn't get better range, because it's actually a pretty nice place to spend time in.
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@Staminexperience
@Staminexperience Жыл бұрын
I love my bz4x Limited. I’m getting 304 miles with nighttime driving and without climate control, which I don’t need where I’m at for my long distance driving. I’m not seeing what most of these video reviews are seeing in terms of limitations and I’ve been driving either hybrids, PHEV and/or BEV for almost 15 years. Yes, using climate control drops the range.. but I’m used to driving and even hypermiling and I always get the most of my battery in the way others don’t. So is it lack of engineering or a lack of BEV experience that leads to negative or less than favorable reviews? Who knows? It serves all my needs, some of which are pretty demanding; so, I’m “good”. Don’t regret the purchase at all.
@JandCDoodles
@JandCDoodles Жыл бұрын
I agree. I am getting 314-316 climate off, about 260 climate on. Our mi/kWh is an average of 4.2. We came from Toyota hybrids.
@TheAbhijeetrai
@TheAbhijeetrai 9 ай бұрын
How do I turn the climate control off?
@henriklarsson7835
@henriklarsson7835 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and sounds good to me. Do you have a AWD or a FWD?
@Staminexperience
@Staminexperience 2 ай бұрын
AWD Limited. My mileage went down because my most recent move has high-velocity freeway driving. I’d say I’m closer to the 228 mi now because flow of traffic speeds in my commute exceed 70mph. But if I have a more balanced freeway and residential type of driving habit, in Eco mode, I get more than what’s posted in the Toyota website. I had a Prius Prime Advanced before that. I take this car off road too!
@henriklarsson7835
@henriklarsson7835 2 ай бұрын
@@Staminexperience Thanks a lot for this additional information. I have a RAV4 prime and it’s time for something new. Some 3-4 times a year I do long road trips to North of Sweden or going south in Europe. Hesitant on the EV range in cold temperatures… 230 miles in nice weather is no problem as you have to take breaks anyway. But the range falls with the temperature… Considering these trips are so rare it might just be something you have to accept. We only have one planet 🌍
@Old1Too
@Old1Too Жыл бұрын
We have the Subaru variant and I wish it had more EV information. But I suspect Toyota was trying to make it feel like a hybrid so it wouldn't scare off people as much as some other EV's do. In fact it is very much like our Rav4 Prime in that respect.
@SerPurple51
@SerPurple51 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a classic case of pushing imperfect technology to the public and letting them be the test group. When people complain about any kind of issues, Toyota will then revise the car attempting to fix the issues they can and ignore the ones they can't.
@misaelramos83
@misaelramos83 Жыл бұрын
Ive taken a few trips in my awd bZ and lemme tell you that it doesnt like being cold one bit but once it's warmed up (which if you're like me and only have level 1 will be achieved at your first DC charge but otherwise I think just an overnight level 2 charge topped off with preconditioning will warm it nicely) I have been seeing easily 3+ at highway speeds on interstates. From Tulare to Castro valley (205mi) I averaged 3.2 and 10mi left on the dash. I'm sure owners can/will figure out how to max it in given situations but there's little doubt that Toyota tuned it for SoCal.
@erincohon-cp8jc
@erincohon-cp8jc Жыл бұрын
All the charging info is on Toyota app. And for the record I love my BZ4x. It’s a smooth ride and fun car to drive!
@bolillo051
@bolillo051 Жыл бұрын
I have had my Limited AWD bZ4X for a month now. Have you had issues with the vehicle not charging to full range? Mine charge’s to less and less range with every charge. Toyota app says that is charged to 100%, but the range indicates 209 miles from 222.
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
65.5 kWh is the usable capacity, not total capacity. Also, the mi/kWh shown includes charging losses. When the software update is rolled out (expected in May), that efficiency value will increase since it will only display usage at the time of driving. The update will also include presentation of battery percentage available. Currently, you it is only available via the app. As for the impression of no charging information, that only comes on when charging begins. Wait for the green light, then check the screen.
@Tonythetourist
@Tonythetourist Жыл бұрын
Even with the update the range is still going to suck and the DC fast charge is not even close to what was stated. I own this car and it is all a lie. Shame on Toyota
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
@Tonythetourist What were your expectations? Not being aware of how EPA estimates are derived is not Toyota's fault. That is one of many reasons why most people wait until the second year, to hear from actual owners prior to making their decision to buy.
@Losttouchjs
@Losttouchjs Жыл бұрын
I always set the adaptive cruise control on highways to shorter distance just because of people going around you then cutting over.
@NeverFollowTheCrowd
@NeverFollowTheCrowd Жыл бұрын
Can you test a focus ST MPG?
@edw3rd354
@edw3rd354 Жыл бұрын
Can you please make sound system test again?
@DailyMotor
@DailyMotor Жыл бұрын
bZ4X sound test coming soon over on DM Sound www.youtube.com/@DailyMotorSound
@thiercisse772
@thiercisse772 6 ай бұрын
Which charges do you install at home?
@DailyMotor
@DailyMotor 6 ай бұрын
We went with a Grizzl-e Smart charger grizzl-e.com/
@gonzales2901
@gonzales2901 9 ай бұрын
I heard the full range is actually like 140 and not 240 is this true? I’ve been wanting to get one
@paullee642
@paullee642 Жыл бұрын
I am Toyota fan as well, but i will pass this car, bought Rav4 prime based on its range, long charging time and its price.
@Old1Too
@Old1Too Жыл бұрын
We have both (Soltera not BZ4X) and a Rav4, and use the Prime for long distance driving, and charge both at home. The Solterra is used every day for around town tasks. We basically don't buy gas unless we are on a trip. They both are loaded and are a pleasure to drive. For now, if you need a long distance car, buy a Tesla until the charging infrastructure improves.
@Manny----
@Manny---- 3 ай бұрын
73 degrees? brother is looking to roast in this EV LOL
@markdrummond7
@markdrummond7 7 ай бұрын
My test drive gave 160 miles. The manager said it was the worst he'd ever seen (it was cold) and tried to explain pre-conditioning (funny as I have an EV). Won't be buying as no better than my ID3 (which claims 260 and delivers 160 in winter).
@trind6794
@trind6794 Жыл бұрын
Lol if this vehicle doesn’t like the cold, it should do well in AZ 🌵
@AeroDude73
@AeroDude73 Жыл бұрын
Only 222 est miles of range? Uugghh 😣
@terelll6990
@terelll6990 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these for a week and took it from Atlanta to Florida the ac EATS the range I wasn’t even getting 200miles with the ac on I ran the battery into the reserve so far out of all the ev I’ve driven it’s good just the efficiency was horrible
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
What mi/kWh do you consider efficient for a SUV of that size running A/C on the highway?
@terelll6990
@terelll6990 Жыл бұрын
@@john1701a I don’t really pay attention to kWh but at least 180 in currently in a volt and it’s better than the Toyota I drive everything the same the Toyota range readout was always inaccurate for example I give myself 50 miles of headroom before I start looking for a charger I couldn’t really count on the Toyotas read out to accurately represent the state of batter when I arrive at a chargers
@chrisak49
@chrisak49 Жыл бұрын
Toyota's downfall is they think they know what consumers want. That worked with internal combustion engine cars where people just wanted a reliable engine but that doesn't work on the target market for EVs. EV buyers have a specific set of features they want. And pretty much all EVs are reliable as Toyota engine cars. Fewer parts that fail.
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
Enthusiasts believe "EV buyers" are like them, placing high priority on driving-range & charging-speed. When we were in the early-adopter stage, that was indeed the case. But now "EV buyer" shift to a mainstream audience, purchasing decisions are changing. Attention shift to reliability & quality is again the focus. Ordinary consumers want confidence in their purchase. Instead of the engine being the center of attention, it is the battery. Number of parts has nothing to do with that.
@chrisak49
@chrisak49 Жыл бұрын
@@john1701a Enthusiasts don't care about range and fast charging. They will go with a car like the Kia EV6 GT which has poor range and fast charging. EV buyers at the very least demand decent range and reliable charging.
@SaveThePurpleRhino
@SaveThePurpleRhino Жыл бұрын
All i want as a consumer is a plug in hybrid that could run 80 miles on EV mode. So daily driving without gas is achievable yet if longer trip is necessary i won't be afraid to venture beyond the nearest charging point, or having to stoped often for 2 hour charging.
@bobm21
@bobm21 Жыл бұрын
Lack of range and slow charging rate, that's why these cars are sitting on the dealer lot with people showing no interest.
@baldheadlogic
@baldheadlogic Жыл бұрын
Hey Charlie. I am Toyota/Honda guy. I would not buy the BZ4x or equivalent Subaru at this time. A 24 or 36 month lease seems to be move for now. To me, they seem half baked for EVs. The EV market is very fast paced. Toyota will do better with their next generation EVs. For now, their HEV or PHEV options seem like better options currently. 😊
@ameserich
@ameserich 7 ай бұрын
It was always their intention. They focus oh hybrid because its what will give them money, their current EVs are more like experimental. I guess they dont want to suffer like other EV manufacturers. Once they started go full on EV i bet they would have fast transition
@DavekayBSC
@DavekayBSC Жыл бұрын
SavageGeese was absolutely right about this car. It's a lazy half effort from a company that doesn't like EVs and didn't want to make one, but they had to because they couldn't afford to be a complete non-entity in the market like Honda now is. The interior ergonomics are bizarre (this isn't a super car, PUT A GLOVE BOX IN IT) it's slow and inefficient at the same time. The only reason you'd buy this over an Ionic 5 or EV6 is if you're a Toyota diehard. It's already outdated, and if you're buying this with the idea that it'll be like a Corolla that you can keep until the sun explodes, bad idea. Those batteries are gonna fail. They are batteries, and all batteries eventually fail, it's when, not if, and 15 or 20 years from now they won't make them anymore, and if you can get a replacement, it'll be twice what the car is worth at that point to replace them. With the rate the technology on these is advancing, five years from now this will be an absolute relic, in 10 or 15 it'll be like something out of the stone age.
@Tonythetourist
@Tonythetourist Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would sue Toyota for this car. The stated so many false facts and I complained to corporate, they wouldn't do anything
@paulg9484
@paulg9484 Жыл бұрын
Such poor efficiency. Expected more from Toyota
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
Did you realize, unlike other automakers, the efficiency displayed includes charging losses. A software update planned for May will change that to only show what was consumed during the drive itself. In other words, that value will go up. Of course, with any AWD SUV, don't expect efficiency of a car.
@tonyha9979
@tonyha9979 Жыл бұрын
I own it and it is the most frustrating car ever
@clarkkentll5490
@clarkkentll5490 Жыл бұрын
Can it use Tesla super charger 🔌????
@tonyha9979
@tonyha9979 Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkentll5490 it can use the charger but won't be fast. Charging is vey slow compared to other cars
@clarkkentll5490
@clarkkentll5490 Жыл бұрын
Omg I’m glad I didn’t trade my Camry hybrid in for this I was soo close nice car but needs more refinement Longer range and faster charging
@qp3592
@qp3592 10 ай бұрын
The same as here. Do not buy bz4x
@16kn
@16kn Жыл бұрын
go for FWD for more miles. you really dont need that technology or AWD unless you are going camping with it in the woods
@muhammadharits3237
@muhammadharits3237 8 ай бұрын
Nissan ariya is better 😊😊
@TimsNeggs
@TimsNeggs 6 ай бұрын
This car is absolute shit. I drive drive this car so I know. Put about 20,000 miles on it. Throttling charging speed should be enough to prove my point. The stupid decision like that are consistent in this car.
@mediamike693
@mediamike693 6 ай бұрын
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