Most people that complained haven’t even driven one to really appreciate the Supra
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
From a track perspective these cars really move out, we have some in one of our endurance series and it’s supra impressive with minimal work.
@j.3854 Жыл бұрын
“supra” impressive? 😮
@kgthegreatone943 Жыл бұрын
Glad they made it in a manual transmission even though I can't afford one
@verdict1163 Жыл бұрын
I do like the POV because it allows me to practice my driving vision by looking way ahead down the road.
@thomasz3192 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Love the new format. Just a couple of issues from making it perfect. You can try to position your seat so that it's much more leaned back than normal. Right now, the POV feels like it's above your head and the camera is framing a lot of the headliner. If the POV is lower and further back it would feel a lot more like what the driver would see. Also, having the right audio setup makes a huge difference to POV vids. I feel like you are just using one lav mic for your voice. Those are great for capturing voice and diminishing the ambient sound. I think you'll need a second audio capture just for the ambient sound, I can barely hear the engine over your voice right now. Looking forward to seeing some sick canyon drive POVs, you were always one of the better drivers out there with a great lineup of cars. Best of luck man!
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Already working on lowering the camera position and improving audio for the next POV.
@danielmembrillo6472 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene Agreed with Thomas. And we want to see you push it. Also we want to hear the car!
@Sparkling.Fresca Жыл бұрын
Best 6speed sports car on the market right now outside of Porsche's in my opinion
@Koboldius1987 Жыл бұрын
i don't know why the fake vents are such a big deal on the supra. yes, they are there but on which car are they not? Maybe Porsche. I prefer the fake vents on the door and bonnet instead of fake exhaust pipes or giant plastic grilles, like at the rear of the new RS3. Also nice car. I ordered a manual Supra in white myself.
@tracerit Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the pov review! But the camera might be too high. Feels claustrophobic seeing so much headliner though
@emissarygw2264 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out, it actually IS claustrophobic inside.
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
Feels like you are driving a tank in real life, least favorite part of the car.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
POV master race 🙌🏻
@sunnyvalentino Жыл бұрын
Man, in your last video I asked for your take on the manual Supra (and commentary vs the s2000). Didn't imagine a few days later you would bring the goods. Love the PoV style, esp the on ramps and right hand turns. I was settling between the GR86 and GR Corolla, now you are making me lust after this bad boy. How is the steering vs those two.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
GR86 steering is the best of the 3. GR Corolla maybe 2nd? Would need to drive them back to back.
@michaelnewman6645 Жыл бұрын
I had the same debate, and ended up picking up a GR86 a few weeks ago. Renting a GR86 was what sold it for me. Coming from a 07 WRX hatch and having driven a regular Corolla hatch, the lower lighter feel, and more direct steering/ great overall handling won me over. I have some minor complaints with respect to pedal placement for heel toe, and clutch feel but it's gotten better as I've gotten used to the car. Also if I'm being honest, I got a little tired of waiting for my GR Corolla allocation with essentially no timeline on when I'd have one. I've also rented an automatic Supra, and to me it felt too .... cockpit-y. Some folks like that, but personally it wasn't for me. Also it somehow felt larger vs the GR86 than the actual difference in size. With that said, it's definitely faster with higher limits stock for stock, and makes much nicer noises. But I was going for light, nimble drivers car vs outright straight line speed, so it was the GR86 for me. Maybe a manual Supra would have won me over, who knows.
@ClydeFog Жыл бұрын
really loving this content from the channel, you're reviewing all the cars that i'm interested in and your descriptions of the experiences are so crisp. keep it up man hope to see the channel really grow
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
Love your review style man. You're very perceptive/insightful. After owning the A91-MT for about a month now, I agree with pretty much everything you said.
@macula_ Жыл бұрын
I knew the POV experiment would be great, love the kinda uncomfortable view as a result of the terrible visibility inside the Supra and the positioning of the camera. I think this give a touch of personality to this video compared, i.e. to those of the well known POVboiz. Great video.
@Alanvictoryoung Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your 3 camera set up but hey I still watch the pov! Haha. Love the vids!
@zealouz1988 Жыл бұрын
I usually avoid watching videos with POV format, but watched it to support the channel. I think the mix-formats between videos is a great idea to get a better balance in production work load. Some of the changes highlighted below will help with POV quality. A Supra vs 718 and also with the Supra 2.0 vs S2000 comparison would be great. Looking forward to seeing this channel grow!
@IS300Spartan Жыл бұрын
Loved the POV! I'd watch anything you post dude, it's great news if you're gonna use the cars for even more content. 2 things I'd improve : 1. The garage segment was pretty dark and claustrophobic. A more open and well-lit presentation would be more visually appealing. 2. I would have liked to see you drive it harder, honestly. I found myself a lot less entertained watching you than I am when you're pushing it in the canyons. Obviously everyone has their own tolerance for what they're willing to do on a busy road. But just using 1st gear more to GET to the speed limit would make it more interesting. Any kind of throttle/high rpm would be welcome as much as possible, even if you decide to be a perfect citizen about it. And a little wheel slip here and there if you're feeling like a rebel... especially on that U-turn haha! I kinda drive like a fool though so maybe that's just me.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Feedback well taken
@princeair Жыл бұрын
Cool to see you embrace the POV format for the first time. Great car to start it on. A lot less work I’m sure as the others said. Also, loving how your audio is dialed in!
@wesleyrice2138 Жыл бұрын
It's here!! Edit: I like that your voice is constant, not having to adjust volume as I watch.
@homerles Жыл бұрын
Loved the video ans your commentary was very nice. For future videos, when you do the walk-around, can you do it outside so we can see the body linss/what you are referring to better?
@tommynobaka Жыл бұрын
First take with first person pov is a good format, it'll be like your own version of smoketire one takes informative, but easy to digest info. As someone who works in media, its nice to come to a barebones but informative and entertaining video
@joerobinson4844 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for an allocation...hopefully soon!
@sponso7145 Жыл бұрын
the vents are not fake, they are there to makeafter market mods easier . Now you just remove the plastic cover, cut underneath, put the cover back on, looks good, easy.
@brandonnhol Жыл бұрын
Topher and Tedward left an impression on you huh 🤣(fantastic video btw, much love!)
@Joolz1982 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the BMW comparisons with older ones Manual gear box and to S58 especially as not really heard that before.
@test-vl2bd Жыл бұрын
I think most viewers watch your videos to hear what you have to say about the cars, while the footage just provides something to focus on while listening to you. aka use whichever camera format lets you pump out more content ;^)
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET Жыл бұрын
Great video great review, keep up the good work 🇺🇸
@Gchang54 Жыл бұрын
How does its low end torque compare to let's say a v8 from a corvette/camaro?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
B58's low end torque isn't as immediate, but it's closer than you'd probably think.
@jasonyee6533 Жыл бұрын
Could not agree more on the fake vents SMH. Don’t the twins have functional vents?! Other than that, it is quite appealing!
@alphonsemonthei8878 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to try a manual Supra! Looking forward to the comparison with a Cayman. I think for less money I’d prefer a used 981 S Cayman but for the power hungry the Supra seems to have unlimited potential with mods 💪
@dre32pitt Жыл бұрын
Ive seen several 981 Cayman S's going for as much, and some times more, than the MSRP on a manual Supra.. 981 Boxster S is more in the price range you're referring to.
@alphonsemonthei8878 Жыл бұрын
@@dre32pitt No, the 981s cayman is what I’m liking. My buddy just picked one up for $38k. I’ve seen some nice ones that I’d like to own for $45. I don’t care for the boxster
@dre32pitt Жыл бұрын
@@alphonsemonthei8878 Gonna have to call cap on the $38k 981 Cayman S, unless it has a zillion of miles on it or other issues.. $45k seems more realistic for a 981 Cayman S with a million miles on it, but a 'low miles' version is $55k+ currently (Supra prices).. You sure you're not thinking about the 987.2 Cayman S? That's inline more with the prices you're throwing out there.. I know because Ive been looking at 987.1, 987.2, and 981 Cayman S for the last year and currently own a 987.1 Cayman S.
@alphonsemonthei8878 Жыл бұрын
@@dre32pitt Yes he bought a 981 S with 90k miles $38k. He even got one with the rare LSD too, plus sport Chrono (or whatever that package is called) and cooled seats. I’m a little jealous I’ll admit. We are located in the Southeast US if it matters.
@dre32pitt Жыл бұрын
@@alphonsemonthei8878 that's a good find if it's legit. Did he get a PPI at least?
@finboyYYC Жыл бұрын
i'm surprised there isn't an aftermarket solution to replace all the faux-vents with functional units. My understanding was that was the thought process toyota had when they first launched the supra but doesn't sound like there is an obvious source yet?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
I recall Toyota said that too, but Jackie Ding debunked it I think.
@lambbosbread123 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene most of them can be turned functional with a tiny bit of cutting, the doors cant but the rest can
@js2000honda Жыл бұрын
POV video is very West Coast Tedward with familiar roads. 11/10 would recommend
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Call me Zyward
@StonyPointRd Жыл бұрын
you should do more of these kinda videos!
@alexandram9477 Жыл бұрын
great as usual - maybe just tilt down a little (although it's probably sitting on your nose already!) also I'm slightly bothered by what appears to be horizontally stretched video? Aside from those minor things great job.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Great feedback. I'll try Wide instead of SuperView next time, and will mount the camera lower.
@glock20 Жыл бұрын
How does this feel compared to a ND2 Miata 6MT? which transmission/clutch feels better? Which would you say is more fun? Have an ND2 now, possibly considering trading for a manual Supra, but only if it’s more fun.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Shifter/clutch in the ND2 are fantastic but almost too light. The Supra's controls have more weight while still being very linear and predictable, which makes it feel more like a GT. Maybe I'm getting old, but I like anything that feels GT. Supra is less fun on tight canyon roads but more fun from stoplight to stoplight and higher speed roads.
@glock20 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene what about the gear ratios? The Miata has what I feel like are near perfect gear ratios for driver enjoyment… how does the Supra’s gear ratios compare?
@andycalifornia426 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene On the subject of Miata, you should do a comparison with the most obvious convertible competitor: Boxster (current gen, not a used one from 20 years ago). It is more expensive and more powerful, but if someone wants a sports convertible, does Miata hang with the big boy? Is the more expensive car more fun? We probably know the answers, but scientific method requires an empirical experiment.
@deviantflux Жыл бұрын
I eagerly await your manual supra vs s2000 comparison video.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
Even though they are very different in many ways, they do both feel like they have roadster proportions. The interior of the Supra really has that roadster cockpit feel. It feels a bit more front-heavy than the S2000 though (doesn't turn in quite as sharply), because of the inline 6.
@frederickcook87 Жыл бұрын
Nice review 👌🏾 and yes the many fake vents cheapen the look/feel
@Post_Leako11 ай бұрын
How does the manual Supra compare to the Cayman as far as a comfortable daily driver goes? Like maybe I want something that's a bit more GT and less sports car, so I'll trade the more purposeful performancr stuff for everyday comfort. Like is the ride more comfy or?
@inlinesoarer Жыл бұрын
Good collection !! (NSX wow!!)
@JohnSmith-yr6je Жыл бұрын
Would love to know which you prefer compared to manual cayman? Also which has better transmission and shorter gearing?
@mmminty Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the different format of the video. Looking forward to the comparison! Would you buy AT or MT Supra?
@mattyoz08 ай бұрын
Use the Idrive it works so well!
@williambellisIII Жыл бұрын
POV driving videos are meh. I know TheTopher and Tedward do them because they’re easy to produce, but your three-camera setup offers a more visually stimulating viewing experience. As for the Supra, I just wish it was Toyota from the ground up. BMW “feel” isn’t my thing.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. That's why I'll continue to use the 3 camera setup for in depth driving reviews, and use POV for casual first impressions videos
@chrisginoc Жыл бұрын
No chance if Toyota made a dedicated Supra model from the ground up that it would cost less than $80,000. Sports cars don't sell like SUVs. I grew up on Toyotas from the late 80s and 90s. If I was gonna pay $80,000+ for a 2 seater sports car I'd choose a Porsche instead and Toyota knows that which is why they wanted to keep their cost down to make this vehicle more accessible. Look at how much the GR Corolla is selling for.
@tealruby1 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene I'd urge you to listen to the Smoking Tire podcast episodes with Doug Demuro. Matt really fucked his channel by producing a variety of content. I wouldn't venture into the POV market unless the numbers are phenomenal.
@jsonliАй бұрын
Actually I specifically looked at a pov video for the Supra to get an idea of how coffin like the driving experience is. Thanks for that
@GT86crazy11 ай бұрын
Any chance of a Supra vs Nissan Z comparison?
@milesfathi Жыл бұрын
Like the new format. The only thing is that I can barely hear the sound of the car. You might want to adjust your audio. Overall it would be good to hear the car a bit in between your commentary. So, is it a big enough upgrade to justify the price delta with the twins?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Great feedback. Will play with the audio in the next one. I'm keeping my BRZ for it's tossability and practicality, but if someone offered me a manual Supra for BRZ+20k I'd do it in a heartbeat.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
The engine is way better, but the BRZ/GR86 has a very good chassis and can be a really good track car when heavily modified. Unfortunately, it's really that boxer engine that is the letdown on it. A turbo K-swapped BRZ/GR86 would be excellent.
@billshoe22191 Жыл бұрын
The only car Ive ever driven where you cant drive with the windows down. Still think its overpriced. Happy it has a manual, but I cannot afford it
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Yes, the wind buffeting was INSANE! Forgot to mention this in the video.
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
Good to point this out, it’s a terrible quality. A friend has a recent GT3 RS that also suffers from this. Combined with its carbon roof he says it’s always hotter and basically requires the AC to be on.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
It's very easy to fix though.
@acarenthusiast3036 Жыл бұрын
How does this compared to a used Porsche 997?
@ShaiyanHossain Жыл бұрын
did they ever fix the wind buffeting? MInor issue but i absolutely love the rest of the car!
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
No fix from the factory yet, but there are many aftermarket fixes available. Carbon fiber or plastic that attaches to the mirror frame and redirects wind away from the door. Not 100% perfect, but cuts out like 80-90% of the wind noise. Way better overall. I have the Verus Engineering carbon fiber ones.
@quang_le Жыл бұрын
You've probably answered this before, but what's your setup for POV videos?
@AlumarsX Жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah bring on the POV drives!
@adrianen9440 Жыл бұрын
Just wish there is more inventory for this car!!!!
@neloviolence Жыл бұрын
In regards to the fake vents, it's probably there to help with gas efficiency. It would be nice if they offered a functional sport option that deletes the fakes for something more useable. But then again, we'd probably want something that tested how effective these vents are for brakes and aerodynamics as they appear to be designed for aesthetics firsthand.
@andycalifornia426 Жыл бұрын
One thing I don't understand: ok, let the vents not be useful at all (let's say, the placement is off, a real vent wouldn't make any difference there), but couldn't they put actual openings in them so they at least LOOK like real vents? People then could debate the merits of the vents, but at least they wouldn't be FAKE.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
If you check out Jackie Ding's video about the vents, many of them (not all) actually can't really be made usable at all because of their placement, unfortunately. (If you are unaware, Jackie Ding is the owner/driver of what is probably the fastest Time Attack A90 Supra in the United States)
@andycalifornia426 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomerandomguyman Yeah, they don't HAVE to be USABLE, they just have to be real openings. It's like huge vents on crap like RS3 -- totally unnecessary, probably useless, but at least not fake.
@Lord-Snowflake Жыл бұрын
Can the engine turning itself off at a stop light be turned off?
@OldCrow3V Жыл бұрын
I’m getting too old or stuck in early 2000s prices. Low quality interior plastics for $60k? Hhhhhh I do dig the Supra looks. Bummer on the fake cooling/pressure relief vents, I guess that’s a chance for aftermarket to step in.
@jayforjessica Жыл бұрын
I liked this car. Comfortable but the trunk was small.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Can I buy one?
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene Way bigger trunk than the S2000! lol
@ruru25003 ай бұрын
opened the door into your nsx... why??
@naten555 Жыл бұрын
Do a real world fuel mileage test. Can you get over 30mpg on a 50-100mile highway loop?
@d.nakamura9579 Жыл бұрын
This over a 718S? Pretty sure I’d take it over at least the base 718 …. And for $40k less than the 718 4.0 GTS? Food for thought…
@R1val909 Жыл бұрын
If I’m 6ft talk I won’t fit?
@Bupkus68 Жыл бұрын
Needs a bigger steering wheel hub.
@Datsun510zen Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of your POV perspective on this intro. It feels like being there. Although Bavaria and Aichi collaborated on suspension design, BMW gave the Supra much more than its interior and 6 speed manual, because it's literally a Z4 M40i beneath the Celica facelift. As is the Z4 sDrive and the Supra 2.0. I might be old school, but marketing them as a Toyota without acknowledging this feels a bit disingenuous to me. The name "AC" Cobra acknowledged that it was a collaboration between Texas race Company Shelby and the British race company Auto Carriers Ltd. Had Toyota done the same, I believe it would lend greater credibility as the GR Z4 Supra.
@carboydorifutoparty3976 Жыл бұрын
It'd sound dumb with that name. It'd be like calling the 86 GRBRZ86. The 2.0 mk5 was made for the same reasons things like the 2.0 mustang exists so it can sell in markets with stricter emissions and so they'd sell more in countries with displacement/hp taxes. The only reason the current Z4 even exists is because of toyo asking for the collab and its been all too prominent that BMW could care less about the Z4 unlike toyo with the mk5 that they haven't even updated the car since it came out nor planning on even giving it a M version.
@Datsun510zen Жыл бұрын
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 BMW sold less Z4s because 2 seater sports cars aren't what their buyers want. But they did buy 177,257 M sedans in 2022. Toyota sold a total of 4,952 Supras in 2022. That's not an impressive sales figure for their flagship halo sports car.
@carboydorifutoparty3976 Жыл бұрын
@@Datsun510zen that's because they don't make that many supra from the get go. It's not being made and shipped in numbers anywhere big as something like the Z or the civic or even bmws sedans for that matter to even be a comparison. It's being made in numbers similar to something like the RC or LC. They were never really looking to selling a ton of them every year since even the mk4 was sold in small numbers despite it not selling well. They wanted to at least sell at least 12k in the 1st 2-3 years and they completely smashed that since they've sold over 20k(US sales) of them since they came out. It's selling good especially since they don't really make many of them as is.
@WatchingYoutubeVid Жыл бұрын
Pov Zygrene 🥇
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
POVgrene
@insansiregar6158 Жыл бұрын
That camera position makes me a bit claustrophobic
@chaseespinoza4288 Жыл бұрын
Good review. If I didn’t already have a two-seater, and did not need a back seat, I’d probably swap my 6-speed M2C for a 6-speed Supra. When and where possible, a smaller chassis and lighter curb weight is always preferable! Good content, Fenton.
@chrisginoc Жыл бұрын
I was about to sign the paperwork on a 2021 M2 Comp, but backed out and found my 2023 Supra A91 6MT. Such a light and nimble car. I was really torn betwen both cars.
@chasejohnson6587 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisginoc If you don't need a backseat, the Supra 6MT is a great move. Love my M2C, but I'd trade it for an A91 manual if I had another fun car with a backseat. My Evora 400 doesn't count as having a "real" backseat! I consider it effectively a 2-seater.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
@@chrisginoc 3300 pounds actually isn't very light at all when you compare it to things like the S2000, BRZ/GR86, 240sx, FD RX7, etc. lol It's only light when compared to other modern BMWs.
@chrisginoc Жыл бұрын
@@justsomerandomguyman I wasn't comparing it to an S2000, RX7, etc. I grew up building JDM cars in my garage and friend's garages in high school. I didn't want another project from the ground up kind of car or else I would have gotten a 90s JDM. I grew up intalling B16, H22, etc back in the late 90s early 2000s. Now being in my late 30s with a family and little kids, it's hard having project cars like that because of having no time. The Supra offers me the best of both worlds. It's definitely lighter than the 2023 M2.
@julianpenny4671 Жыл бұрын
😎 cool thanks
@Hapkin Жыл бұрын
Compare vs F8* M2C!
@Post_Leako Жыл бұрын
Do the manual Supras still have engine start/stop?
@Post_Leako Жыл бұрын
I'm dumb, you mention the start/stop feature at 6:40. What's confusing though is Toyota's website says the manual models don't have "automatic engine start/stop." Hmmmm
@MiLLz830 Жыл бұрын
How is the shifting is it short or long?
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
Longer than an S2000, but, IMO, better than any current BMW or Porsche. The way he describes how "easy" it is in the video is the perfect description. It feels good. It's tight, easy to shift. Fairly short throw and less rubbery than every other BMW and things like the Nissan 350Z/370Z/Z. However, it's not quite like the S2000 or other Hondas. It can likely hold much more power than your average Honda manual transmission though. So, you have to consider that too.
@hongkong322 Жыл бұрын
bring the manual to the 2.0 pls
@Barbwire710 Жыл бұрын
There’s likely only 2-3 more years of production for this car. I wouldn’t count on a manual 2.0.
@Razyre Жыл бұрын
Like the format a lot. I've been agonising for ages over what car to get in this kinda price bracket. I'd kinda dismissed the Supra because every review I saw rated it below the competition, due to that restrictive cabin and the slightly odd driving dynamics. But I do like the way it looks, the B58 is a bit of a peach... This, Alpine A110, Cayman GTS 4.0... gah idk man
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Get the 718 GTS 4.0 if you can afford it. Hands down, no contest, end of story.
@Razyre Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene Even with the annoyingly long gearing? I assume you haven't had the chance to drive an A110 before either? Lotus but actually daily drivable is a hell of a selling point. Got in my friend's S2 the other day and instantly knew the discomfort wasn't for me 😂
@JayPimen Жыл бұрын
Supra or a g82 M4 manual ?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Haven't driven a G80/G82 but really want to.
@s_hami Жыл бұрын
No way lol we are literally neighbors 😂
@BitcoinTo150K Жыл бұрын
You should get this exact car 🙂
@tvtime2644 Жыл бұрын
Engine stop/start on a manual sports car?! That’s an immediate no-buy.
@shahrukhbakar3248 Жыл бұрын
Toyota makes a better BMW than BMW does
@petergazarek9466 Жыл бұрын
TOYOTA ❤️👍
@vikkiandersen4643 Жыл бұрын
Nice content.. need to work on the lighting..
@AllIsWell_22 Жыл бұрын
SS/1LE > Zupra! At least we know the 6th Gen Camaro has better visibility (compared to the Supra), V8 + 6spd Tremec 6060 married to that 1LE goodness. Oh…and the SS/1LE is way cheaper…
@coldvaper Жыл бұрын
I think people have an issue with it being a BMW doesn't necessarily have to do with it being a BMW. I think its more like copying someone's work and then slapping your name on it and taking credit. So if the Supra is amazing really how much credit can you give toyota and how much to BMW, probably most of it top BMW.
@coreyegan6751 Жыл бұрын
This. And most people don't realize the styling compromises that were made from ft1 concept to production supra due to the z4 chassis
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Fair point. I can see how it's almost about the principle and not the car itself.
@carboydorifutoparty3976 Жыл бұрын
@@coreyegan6751 they partly wanted it based off the 2000gt that partly explains why its small in some cases.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
They didn't copy someone else's work though. They co-developed the Supra and Z4 with BMW since the very start. They didn't just take an already existing Z4 and slap a Supra name on it.
@coreyegan6751 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomerandomguyman if it was co-developed why are all of the parts stamped BMW? The only toyota part about the car is the emblem.
@s.a.i.v Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one thinks 6500rpm is disappointing
@Gchang54 Жыл бұрын
I think In this car is okay because its torque band is very wide
@joeracer302 Жыл бұрын
Is that the same or different than every other BMW with this motor?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed too. It's not an engine with much character, but damn does it haul ass.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
7k is redline. 7500 or 8000 would have been nicer, but it has a lot of torque and very linear power delivery.
@nehok Жыл бұрын
My understanding is that the vents aren't fake but are rather blanked off. If you want to modify the car for track etc then you can very easily open the vents up.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
This has been debunked
@joeracer302 Жыл бұрын
Lol that’s just what Toyota said when they were called out for a bunch of fake vents.
@Brian-or2jy Жыл бұрын
@@jubbalandcars Debunked how? Didn't those quotes come direct from the Supra's chief engineer? Did he just straight up lie?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
I believe Jackie Ding debunked this on his TA Supra
@nehok Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene I just rewatched what he says about it. Some of them can be functional but a lot not from the sounds of it. So a bit of a fib. But toyota certainly isn't the only company doing fake vents so I won't hold it against them.
@Digiphex9 ай бұрын
I like the design but I think the big nose at the front should get a rhinoplasty and look more like the old Supra.
@SleeperHonda Жыл бұрын
Feels like you are driving a Tank
@AgentMrX7 Жыл бұрын
i don't think it's a "pet peeve" so to speak. it's a legitimate complaint for a $100K+ to have fake vents. i expect fake vents on "toyota camry sport versions". not a genuine sports car.
Pov soulds like a podcast..non visual needed. Because we cant feel g force with u or cant see your expressions to see enjoyment. Dead beat on pov. But great info.
@saiyan2525 Жыл бұрын
Where handsome face
@IshaqMonkey8 ай бұрын
Toyota is better then BMW
@sixspeedcooper Жыл бұрын
Hate pov
@coreyegan6751 Жыл бұрын
Forget this poser car. They should have built a Toyota!
@pmayo7894 Жыл бұрын
A "posers car" that did the Nurburgring, DTM Trophy, Formula Drift, Super Taikyu, GT4, among others.
@justsomerandomguyman Жыл бұрын
It's a better car in every single way than the original Supra. Way higher performance ceiling.