2023 Toyota Tundra | Owner Review | (Part 2)

[@roughready7491]

You hit the nail on the head about the subscription issue. The move from "products" to "services" in ALL industries is one that only stands to hurt the consumer long term. When I buy something I want to own it.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

it's only for the app, can still use your key fob

[@JIPlatium]

I have a 22 Tundra Plat Hybrid. In colder weather the mileage went down to about 17mpg using 4-wheel drive and warming up. Now that summer is back, I'm getting about 20-21mpg. The seat was a bit firm at first, but now super comfortable. I don't have wind noise or rattles. Rock solid, love it!

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

The technology is what made me order one. So glad to find your video. I may do a video on mine when it arrives soon. Thanks

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

Great job buddy we absolutely love our 2023 4X2 Limited hybrid Tundra so far so good after 2K miles no issues at all while averaging 21 mpg in the city. Sub

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you!

[@1JeffJames]

Wow 21mpg that’s awesome

[@1JeffJames]

Was it always 21 mpg or did it get better and better?

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

@@1JeffJames initially it was about 18-19 mpg then it started creeping up once I past 500 miles on the odometer. I remember I got so excited seeing 21.9 mpg for the first time lol that's my old Tacoma mpg. Now I'm getting 20 mpg pretty easily even with the AC running. On a good day I'm getting 23.8 but normally it's 20 - 23 mpg in the city I haven't had any road trips yet but I don't think it will deviate much from those numbers. Keep in mind my Tundra is a 4X2 hybrid (no need for 4X4 in the concrete jungle of Houston and no off-roading) not lifted, stock tires with a tonneau cover if any of those makes a difference. I really enjoy your videos because you're being objective with lots of real world experience I'm glad I found your channel. Take care.

[@markf8256]

I am glad to hear that it seems Toyota has worked fixes into the assembly process to address the cabin wind noise issues. I have a 1794 built in January 2022. There are wind noise issues with the front driver door seal and the RR door seal, and a roof liner above the front passenger near the visor that makes a snapping noise occasionally due to bad adhesive. I registered these issues during my 10k service recently. The dealer basically treated the door seals which helped somewhat, but it is not a long-term solution. I am hoping there will be a TSB soon that may lead to better parts. If not, I will have Toyota replace them all before the 3/36 warranty is up. Outside of those issues, it's a fairly quiet truck with a nice ride. I was getting 18.5 to 19.5 MPG mixed driving before the winter blended gas late last fall. Now I get about 17.5 MPG mixed. Straight highway, full tank, I still get close to 22 MPG with 3 passengers and 800 lbs of bed cargo.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I hope they get those issues fixed for you. Such a bummer.

[@shanewhittemore]

Really great review. I appreciate the time you took to explain the features. I have a 2022 Tundra with 9500 miles and I learned some things I did not know.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you!

[@JWGuppy]

Thanks for the review. One minor thing - the "Hold" feature uses the regular brakes as if you were pressing your foot down on the brake pedal, not the parking brake which takes a second to engage and disengage.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you! I did not know that, but that makes way more sense.

[@alfonsocarnucci3982]

Definitely watched this review first. Clearly going to have to watch Part 1. Great vid!

[@Vlaakster]

I really appreciated these reviews and your approach. Thanks for taking the time. I'm considering this or the Sequoia in 3-5 years. Keep up the good work.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Glad it can help, thank you!

[@OdysseyOffroad]

Haha what a coincidence! I just mentioned you in my Grizzly video (uploading as we speak). Great video, I love the new Tundra. Going to be my next truck for sure in a year or two. 💪🏻

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thanks man!

[@philromito9411]

Good review I bought a 2023 Tundra limited with the TRD package and really love it still figuring out all the details

[@HarrisonBergeronIsHere]

I recently bought a 2024 Tundra. The dealer explicitly stated to me that the crankshaft bearing problem was fixed for 2024. He was under informed or lying. The 2024s are blowing up, just like the 2023/2022s!! I suspect that Toyota isn't extending the 2022/2023 engine recall to the 2024s until they have sold the 2024s off their lots. I suspect that the bearing problem is not completely explained by debris left in during forging in Alabama and Japan. Concern: The new engines might disintegrate, too, if they were built before April 2024 when Toyota changed the front crankshaft bearing. I suspect that bearing change was "the fix." If so, there are lots of 2024 Tundras that will blow their engine. Instead of focusing on engineering, Toyota is focusing on complicated, expensive trim items. Remember "new Coke", which was supposed to be better than old Coke? Below, please find a great analysis of the bearing problem by the Car Care Nut! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6qsZaign92rq80si=kjGux5M

[@dannybarker442]

A great video and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a 2022 Toyota Tundra 1794 that I love and your going over many of the features is very helpful, especially the slider adjustment. I was having a problem keeping my truck from bottoming out and the Toyota dealer made an adjustment that helped. I think it could use a little more.

[@guidojt]

Thanks for the review. Hoping these videos will help with my decision to purchase. FYI: Tire height is the Aspect Ratio not the first number on the tire. The higher the fist number, the wider the tire, the second is the sidewall height and third, the rim size. The bigger the AR (65 vs 55), the greater difference in your MPH also.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thanks man, I emphasized the tire width in millimeters because the aspect ratio for both tires is the same number. Aspect ratio is just a percentage of your tread width, which is why the 275s with the same aspect ratio number are slightly taller than the 265s.

[@daveh6856]

Nice review. I recently bought a 2023 Platinum and am still figuring out a few things so your video helped. A couple items I haven't tested yet are the low speed cruise control where the truck automatically comes to a complete stop and the trailer back up system.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you! I have not tested the slow speed radar adaptive cruise control yet on this truck either. That said, the same Toyota safety sense 2.0 on our 2019 RAV4 works pretty great. It comes to a complete stop and then resumes driving all on its own. I'm not sure if this truck does the same though.

[@myrkobalaban8571]

I have the same truck with the air ride. I have the same bottoming out issue. Can you do a short video on the adjustment feature?? Thank you. Love the video b

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Yeah, I'll look into recording a quick video on that.

[@MrJrnyfan]

Bought a 2023 TRD PRO, in Dec. Absolutely love it. It's all black. Great looking truck. The grill makes the truck look menacing. Enjoy the twin turbos and the sound coming out of the exhaust. The Infotainment screen is large. I feel like I am getting a tan. Toggle through the rearview camera. There is a camera view that provides a clear view of who's behind you. I'll be towing an Airstream, this summer. Does anyone see a difference between using 87 octane gas vs using 92? Thanks!

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Right on. I have not tried towing with 91 or higher yet. Manual says 87 at all times, so I would think it'd be hard to notice any difference, if there is one at all. Perhaps in the very hot summer months?

[@TheWhiteOakHomestead]

Great review - Such a bad-a truck!

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you!

[@markf8256]

I learned something new about the air suspension adjustment. Thanks.

[@superseries7007]

Key Fob Remote start still works on my 2020 TRD Sport Premium DC,2 1/2 years later.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

the key fob remote start will continue working, it's the App-based remote start that will expire.

[@robertpearson8798]

My understanding of the reason that they dropped the V-8 engine is that no matter what they could have done with it, it would never be able to meet upcoming CO2 emissions standards. Apparently Toyota looks about ten years ahead while other manufacturer's look less.

[@corydelbiondo5773]

I wouldn't say they look 10 years ahead but they know they will probably no be looking to do any changes for at least 10 plus years like the previous gen tundra and 4runner

[@jhall_79]

⁠@@corydelbiondo5773hopefully those 10 years will instead lead to great improvement on the tundra but who knows

[@othernamesweretaken1871]

What stupid reason. Regulation is the death of greatness.

[@jagbirsingh295]

Great thanks for the suspension advice great video btw I got the same truck but with tow mirrors

[@luksocat]

Appreciate the notes on the air suspension adjustment ✌️

[@shampoo6563]

I have a 2023 SR5. Sounds like the back window rattles whenever it’s completely rolled down. And also when I stick it to the floor, it shows my tailgate is open lol. Other than that, it’s a solid truck. Getting an oil change this weekend and will bring it up to the dealership.

[@thomasdecoster8818]

Would you buy the air ride suspension again now that you have some miles driving it? There’s so much noise about them. I’ve had master technicians on payroll tell me don’t touch them. They’re expensive to repair. They don’t last, Toyota has tried these several times and can’t get them correct? What is your opinion.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I can't speak to the system's longevity, only my experience with it so far, and based on that I would buy it again. Everything works as well as it did on day 1 and I've towed with a very heavy tongue weight through the mountains in mid July summer temps and in well below zero winter temps. I'm hoping it is reliable, but a coil spring is much simpler.

[@superseries7007]

14:40... I would take those wheels and put a 275 65 20 winter tire on them and get a set of the TRD PRO wheels and put a mild A/T tire on them.

[@samuelgordon2568]

Good afternoon sir I just looked at your video, my question is Loring the vehicle 2 to 3 inches would that be a good thing for it?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I don't think so, but if you like it for the looks, then go for it!

[@DinakarJayarajan]

Nice review. How is the Auto Start Stop? a quick video on it would be helpful.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thanks! It's okay - I don't use it very often, only when I'm at LONG red lights.

[@DinakarJayarajan]

@@ThomperBeThompin I recently learned that the Lane Centering get turned off when connected to the trailer. What is your experience with it? A video would be nice as your channel is the only one which talk about towing with a Tundra.

[@thegoodsheperd1189]

Really enjoy your reviews. Are you sure about the alternate size tire size? 275 60 r20

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you. I am going to try to stick with the stock size, but bumping up to the size you have listed there. Will offer you many more options at much cheaper prices. I wish Toyota had opted for a more common size stock. Check out tirerack.com and see all the different options available in those two different sizes. For the stock size, it's mostly e-rated options

[@kevinratliff8586]

Nice truck, great review. It’ll be my next truck.

[@naugordon]

can the lane assist be turned off? One video I saw made it seem like it cant.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Yeah, you can turn it on and off with the press of a button on the steering wheel. I use it on the highway.

[@MeaningOfLifeNow]

Very informative - thank you

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Glad it was helpful!

[@robertsahli9998]

As far as towing! JB reviews found that tundra wasn’t rated for towing or recommend? It was in the 2023 tundra manual! I’m sure each one is different depending on hybrids or not?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I'm not sure what your referencing, but all tundra's can tow quite a bit of weight.

[@JB-xd1fo]

Is the back seat comfortable enough for kids / long traveling?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I think so. They are spacious, have tons of legroom, great arm rests and center rests. There's vent's that point to the rear as well.

[@irvingluna4914]

I’m looking to probably trade in my GMC Sierra 1500 SLT for a Tundra (Possibly Limited) what color is yours? And does it come in the Mesquite Brown color. Thanks!

[@ThomperBeThompin]

This is the Magnetic Grey Metallic. I think you can get mesquite in the upper trims. It's a beautiful color!

[@briang4583]

Good review. Can you explain why your payload is only 1400 lbs, when the advertised max payload is 1740 lbs for the 2023 Limited 4x4 CrewMax 5.5 ft bed? Does your truck actually have over 300 lbs. worth of extra equipment that reduced your payload number? Most of us know that payload, not max towing capacity, is the limiting factor when towing. Thanks

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I'm not 100% certain what makes my payload numbers lower. I think Toyota is playing it safe with some of these payload numbers I've seen. Possibly to cover their butts. A few hundred extra pounds would have been really nice, but I'm honestly pretty happy with 1400 for my needs. That allows me to tow 7000 lb with my family and some gear.

[@vitkobylka6432]

I have the same truck but hybrid and long box, my payload is 1405lbs. When I picked it from the Toyota web site I was supposed to have well over 1600lbs payload. The frustrating thing is here in Canada we don’t get to add on any options, the trucks basically come fully loaded, with that being said I should have gotten the advertised payload. I reached out to Toyota and they basically said it depends on your options, how can that be when you can’t pick any!!

[@alexrivera3839]

I have the exact same truck, do you have break noise when reversing on first start up …

[@ThomperBeThompin]

No I don't, but maybe it's just surface rust on the rotors from sitting after a rain?

[@eaglefit8239]

Whats your typical mpg without towing a trailer and with towing ..

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Commuting back and forth to work which is a solid mix of suburbs, city, and a small stretch of highway. I am getting between 18 and 20 depending on how much of a hurry I'm in. Towing. I'm always getting around 9 to 12.5 mpg. Usually hovering right around that 10-11.5 range. That said, I'm towing a large toy hauler now that's about 5000 lb empty and pretty tall and wide. Something a bit more aerodynamic will probably increase towing fuel economy

[@prioritymaleman]

I watched part 1 also, and you do a fantastic job. I bought a 23 Hybrid used with 1500 mi. Drove it 5 hours home from the dealer. No rattles, no issues. Seat was extremely comfortable. I agree with what you're saying. One thing I did notice...just filled up the truck and the dash with a full tank, only reads 374 mi range. I noticed that at the dealer...full tank, 360-ish range. My truck only, maybe?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Thank you! That's very odd about your fuel range reading less than 400 miles. Mine typically reads between 450 and 500. I know there was a slight issue with the hybrid RAV4s not filling up all of the way because of the filler nozzle having issues. Our RAV4 never had that issue though. I assume all hybrids have the 32.2 gallon tank. Perhaps the fuel range predictor is reading low because of some recent towing trips?

[@shampoo6563]

Mine says the same thing when I fill it up all the way. Had a 2018 ram and a 2015 f150 before the tundra and I got way more range when I filled them up. Smaller gas tank maybe on the tundras? Mine is a 2023 SR5 non hybrid.

[@prioritymaleman]

@@shampoo6563 I don't think that's it, as my tank is 32 gal. At 20mpg which I've been getting during breakin (2500-ish mi), should be 600+. Maybe it's learning my driving style...? Not sure; if it continues I'll let the dealer recalibrate.

[@JIPlatium]

Mine for the hybrid is 470-500 on full tank

[@tristenlittke7593]

Are they actually done with column shifter or can I order a truck with 1 built in

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I don't think you can get a tundra with a column shifter these days

[@gerrybaker1422]

Is the entire bed composite such as the rear fenders or just the bed interior?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Steel fenders with a one-piece composite bed that has aluminum reinforcements underneath and at the bulkhead against the cab.

[@richardsweat9315]

Good review. Thanks

[@jokelanddotcom]

My limited comes in next week, looking forward to it. Which Amazon running boards did you go with?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I'll post a KZbin Short of them here in the near future. Got them off Amazon

[@cmair77]

Do you have to be stationary to go from 2HI to 4HI ?

[@ThomperBeThompin]

No, but you have to be below a certain speed. Pretty typical and basic 4wd system

[@7craiglyon]

czan you show the running boards on amazon you bought, thanks

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Yeah, I'll try to do a short video on them.

[@BlackstonianTRD]

Got a 23 SR5 TRD off-road and no active air dam.

[@Adobooperator]

I’m one of the ones having some build quality issues really disappointed. My 2023 sr5 with a tss package as loose trimming on the outside and is experiencing bad vibration on the door panels when playing music

[@ThomperBeThompin]

that sucks, man. I hope they can get it squared away for you.

[@jasonkasparities6197]

I have a fully loaded 23 limited trd offroad. It does not have the active air dam. I was told no offroads or pros get that

[@lukeantoniuk]

What do you do for a living to afford this truck?! I’m looking at getting one and it’s expensive!

[@ThomperBeThompin]

I'm not rich, I'm just irresponsible!

[@lukeantoniuk]

@@ThomperBeThompin lol we’re in the same boat then! I’m picking up my crewmax L limited off road in the next couple days. I’m pumped! Enjoy the summer yo!

[@horhay1981]

You will always get worse gas mileage in the winter due to the winter blend gas. I drop down to 13mpg in the city in my 18 F150. Would like to get a tundra platinum or possibly wait for a second year Tacoma limited I force max.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Those Tacoma's are very promising. Should be a winner. Just drove 215 miles today in the Tundra (round trip) and got 24.1mpg!

[@abelasmamaw5915]

Please do a video on the tundra it’s been 3 months since your last post

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Anything specific I could cover?

[@abelasmamaw5915]

About having a stock tundra(without trd package)the mpg without towing,the seats,the turbo engine,cabin noise,basically just an update of how the tundra has been like to live with.Thank you

[@WyLEE08]

I believe after 3 years took away my RAV4 remote start from my FOB, after 12 months 22’ Tundra still works. So wrong Toyota to deactivate my FOB.

[@stimpyueediot]

remember when you get different tire sizes it will effect your speed and your fuel and towing power.

[@frs2768]

The stop control should be for hill assist

[@walkingdead-q3o]

But if you get the three inch lift from toyota, they take the air dam off

[@AmateurSuperFan]

that engine makes more power and torque if you didn't get that SR version, but if you did then you get penalized 50 hp and 100 lbft of torque for being cheap

[@huynguyentvvnenglish2724]

Do you tundra have a issue wind noise

[@ThomperBeThompin]

No, none at all!

[@johnweber235]

I have 22 limited side window wind noise is very bad Seat control panel broke for the second time in37000 km

[@michaelmancini5773]

so let me just say that if Toyota removed your remote start feature on the key fob itself, they'd be alienating many owners, because this is a feature that literally every carmaker offers on the key fob permanently , I have GM OnStar, and the app is a pay service, the fob is built in, it must be the same with Toyota, i pay for sat radio, onstar wifi, and emergency collision response all in one package for $ 33.00 a month, not too bad.

[@SpicyRok7482]

A 275mm W-I-D-E tire may require a 9" wide wheel.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

For sure, always good to check the tire manufacturer's website for each tire size's recommended wheel width range.

[@Rottingboards]

Thanks for the payload.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

You bet

[@dboyer1062]

"I'm going to just trust Toyota" Does that mean he will pack his wife and kids in for a long trip in a remote area? That's not trust that gambling.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

@@dboyer1062 literally every decision you make in life and action you take is a gamble with uncertain risk attached to it. It's just a friggin truck

[@dboyer1062]

@@ThomperBeThompin True. However, I've avoided a lot of pain and suffering by being aware of where others have fallen.

[@ThomperBeThompin]

@dboyer1062 sweet

[@dein45d]

My 2024 tundra hybrid Bad wind noise from doors Very noisy drivers side mirror Steering wheel stitching coming apart Steering wheel plastic not flush Drivers seat auto back and forward failing On and on Only 1000 kilometres on the truck

[@ThomperBeThompin]

That sucks man, sorry to hear it. So far mine is still perfect and approaching 14k miles. I hope the dealer can provide solutions for those issues you listed.

[@ricocastro6321]

Great truck untill u go to the dealer and it's 10,000 over msrp

[@dannybarker442]

A great video and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a 2022 Toyota Tundra 1794 that I love and your going over many of the features is very helpful, especially the slider adjustment. I was having a problem keeping my truck from bottoming out and the Toyota dealer made an adjustment that helped. I think it could use a little more.