2024 Alfa Romeo Tonale | Unprecedented Prestige and Swagger

[@delua6]

Mark giving us the Silent Treatment was fucking hilarious, and telling

[@birdcall2422]

It must be so hard as a “car guy” to have to drive around and review one of these piles knowing it is the death of enthusiast cars. Later when they are 6 grand it is going to be fun to beat the holy piss out of these though.

[@762x69]

I can feel the Dealer cringe already from them trying to correct people to Not pronounce this model as the 'ToeNail'

[@Dowlphin]

Yeah, it would have been wise of Jack to not join that presumably default habit but do proper automotive journalism and pronounce it properly.

[@bmwmsport11]

It's fine they only need to correct the 5 people who are buying Alfas

[@chucky29949]

2:23 lol

[@LanceCorporal_Waffles]

Now I feel awkward pronouncing the Hornet as, “Whore-Neigh”….

[@pieswimmer1]

​@@Dowlphinthey really don't care plus alfa is a joke tbh

[@killavids1]

the Olive Garden analogy was just too perfect. Great video as always.

[@sanman1188]

This review really highlights the limitations of the Tonale. Back in the good old days, you could throw Mark's body in the trunk and the self leveling suspension would insure that the police would not ask questions. Now, all you can do is intimidate or let the body ride shotgun 'Weekend at Bernie's' style.

[@Kulu-M]

A comment fitting for the channel 😂

[@S8ER]

That's exactly what popped in my head "Weekend at Bernie's". hahaha

[@deglaser]

Haha 😂

[@TassieLorenzo]

Not meaning to undermine the satire, but I don't think any Alfas in the "good old days" of the 70's or 80's had self-levelling suspension? That was more of a Citroen thing with Citroen's hydraulic system, wasn't it? 🙂

[@sanman1188]

@@TassieLorenzo While I was referring to the Lincolns and Cadillacs preferred by Italian mafia in the U.S. years ago, the Alfetta and Milano did have an optional self-leveling rear suspension. The e28 BMW M5 had one as well.

[@youngbrevy]

😂 I couldn’t stop laughing at AI Marks lack of movement in the passenger seat. AI Mark needs to make more appearances.

[@shakethedrummer2351]

Agreed! I can imagine more cameo's

[@Gorilla_Jones]

Nah

[@peterjordansonthe2nd731]

It is best in class! Hahahahahaha

[@marcelstanford430]

"It's not as bad as I thought it would be". High praise indeed.

[@giacomogessaga9338]

Unprecedented prestige and swagger...🤦🤦🤦

[@andrewweltlich9065]

I'm a technician at an Alfa dealer and the Tonale is MUCH worse than I thought it would be. This video was much too kind and pulled a lot of punches. It absolutely drives like an economy car. I have very little positive things to say about it. Anyone even remotely interested in a Tonale should really just look at a Stelvio.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@andrewweltlich9065 Are you a US or European Alfa technician? What's wrong with an Alfa driving like an economy car, isn't that the whole point of the Mito and Giulietta? Alfa have always had economy cars in their range since the Alfasud. I think it is a misstep from Alfa Romeo to not have a replacement for the Giulietta and to assume the compact hatchback market is dead. A Giulietta with the Tonale upgrades, like the interior, would be a good hatchback IMO (notwithstanding that FCA wasted all that money on the Dodge Dart as a Giulietta sedan which was a flop for some reason, unclear why that was't built as an Alfa).

[@andrewweltlich9065]

@@TassieLorenzo I'm in the US. Alfa is much different here than in the Europe. Here Alfa is positioned as a premium brand and they charge premium prices. Prior to the launch of the Tonale we only had the Giulia and Stelvio. While those models are a little on the expensive side for what you get, the driving experience makes it worth it. The Tonale drives like a cheap rental car. If it were significantly cheaper, I could forgive it's shortcoming. A Tonale is the same price as a Stelvio, but is worse in almost every way. Maybe in Europe it makes sense, but not here.

[@marcelstanford430]

And I would bet the Hornet is even worse but with a bigger engine.@@andrewweltlich9065

[@markcoopers1930]

Oh no. Honey, they got Mark!! Honey: I know. He forgot to mention the Tonale "adheres to the time-honored details forged from Alfa's past, paired with elements of modern style and ingenuity that makes the Tonale one-of-a-kind." Me: Sweet baby Jeep

[@desktop2815]

When I marry my robot wife I would end up with the cheap one that has to spout ads to keep the price low.

[@TheComp_Troller]

Yeah “one of a kind” … if you don’t notice that it’s the skin-swapped version of the Dodge Hornet

[@mctit]

Mark's impression of Hector Salamanca was really impressive in this video.

[@savagegeese]

RIP

[@mitsuman5555]

This thing is as Italian as an Olive Garden. The analogy is PERFECT, and to make it without even saying it is just *chef's kiss*.

[@alrune001]

Mark's face is the entire review

[@Gorilla_Jones]

Marks turned into what he used to make fun of. He's now the jaded super car driving car reviewer.

[@bien9582]

😂😂

[@BaldKiwi117]

​@@Gorilla_Joneshow? Trashing an alfa is hardly being jaded. Did you watch the crv review where they were just praising it?

[@lostalx]

@@BaldKiwi117 I miss Mark's trashing on Mercedes EQS. I think he went truly brutal honest and found some kickback from the PR execs. Now they turned that down sadly.

[@savagegeese]

I ONLY DRIVR

[@rwsavory]

A loaded Dodge Hornet GT is about $15K less expensive. I predict they will sell about 100 Toenails to young wives of "contractors" in Westchester and North Jersey.

[@NoodlesExtraMSG]

The sidepiece/mistress gets the Alfa, the Wives gets Maseratis. There is a pecking order.

[@pushslice]

@@NoodlesExtraMSG imagine only being good enough to be a sidepiece to a Jersey 'contractor' ...

[@johngennace4045]

Being from NJ you’re spot on! Hilarious !

[@higurro]

Mark seems more insightful than usual here

[@n.b.8572]

As someone who owns an Alfa Romeo 4C, one thing that you really have to consider when buying an Alfa is the ownership experience. Despite having 0 reliability issues with my vehicle, I still need to take it in for service, and the poor dealership network becomes readily apparent right away. I live in Southern California. There is _one_ Alfa dealership (yes one) for the 3.2 million people that live in my area. As you can expect, they have a huge wait list. It took 2 months to get my routine maintenance done this year, which is crazy. I also have a Honda. I called the local Honda dealer on Tuesday for a weekend drop off (that Saturday) and got it done almost immediately. A stark difference indeed. I cannot recommend anyone get an Alfa for this reason alone (dealer network/ownership experience). Yes, the Stelvio/Guilia are significantly more fun to drive than any other car in its class. Yes, they have great performance, and the reliability is the same as any other European brand. Despite this, I guarantee that you will be pulling out your hair as soon as you have to interact with the dealer/service department.

[@DamianSheesh]

I also live in Socal, and that one dealer also seems incredibly empty at all times. It's bizarre. You can also make the mistake of taking your car to a Dodge dealership which is a whole other experience unto itself. I like my Giulia 'ok'. It drives impeccably as everyone says, but the interior feels last gen to me, and certain things just make me think the car was made in an inferior way (like the auto-start-stop kicking in when the car is cold or AC is blowing, etc., or the turbo cooling fan that runs for 20 minutes after I shut the car off, along with the infotainment. Things my Volvo is far smarter about). At least the abysmal resale value allowed me to buy it at 2 years old for close to 50% off.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

try living in South Carolina. only three Alfa dealers in the state and none of them are in the state's capital

[@goochi5544]

You can take it to a Dodge dealer for service. no problem.

[@jeffr6280]

Hard to believe a company like Stellantis/Fiat Chrysler, with their reputation for reliability and common sense engineering, would mess us something as simple as the lift points. Well, at least you'll rarely need to use them 🙄

[@Dowlphin]

Yeah, that's a double joke. The one thing you're gonna need a lot is being complicated.

[@allcan4175]

😅😂 nice...

[@panzer_TZ]

There's going to be a pile of those lift point panels in the Alfa Romeo service bay. Almost all of the lessees of this car would probably never know they are missing.

[@realkarfixer8208]

90% of those things are going to be gone after the first service, guaranteed. The last 10% will be mangled 'cause the tech just left them on when lifting it up.

[@philipparana9225]

​@@realkarfixer8208nah the tech will have a drawer of them to replace the damaged ones from ones they forgot to reinstall.

[@joshgorman4521]

I’m old enough to remember when Mark did reviews

[@BloopsnBleeps]

And we need turbowaski back!

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

Yeah, we all miss the good old days Mark could say whatever he thought w/o corporate Jack filter.

[@TangySalmon]

iirc didn't he chill out a bit after Ford basically banned him for dunking on the Focus RS? I don't know if he still has that review but it pulled no punches LOL. I think the only car reviewer that actually doesn't give a fuck is RCR but that's why he doesn't get press cars.

[@oOgy172]

@@BloopsnBleepsTurbowski is a busy man. Every day he’s out there fighting for our nation with rust falling in his eyes

[@hotdog9262]

@@BloopsnBleeps when he scratcehs his a*s on the old intros. guy is a gem

[@davidryder3374]

"This isn't anywhere as bad as I thought it would be," seems to be the best we can hope for for the majority of today's new cars. Which is why I just flew 2500 miles and then drove back with a car built in 2010...

[@hymnofashes]

@SuperDuperBDUB I actually did buy the giulia quadrifoglio so don't blame me. It's the perfect car. When it doesn't turn off in the middle of the highway because of a fuel pressure sensor and then refuse to go into neutral so you can push it to the shoulder. But yeah, other than that, perfect.

[@MrGamman3yt]

No, that's not us. That's marketing geniuses paying attention to millennial mindset, you know, kids loaded with debt, few job opportunities, apart from gigs and content creators, who are Greenpeace members, bitcooin wallet holders, tesla stock owners, hdtv gfd43 affiliates, etc.

[@hymnofashes]

@@MrGamman3yt times is hard on the boulevard.

[@TassieLorenzo]

For a 2010 model, a Giulietta QV (where available like here in Australia) is very much a credible VW GTI alternative. 😊

[@The_Noticer.]

Mark's expression perfectly representing the actual opinion haha.

[@Dowlphin]

Jack didn't even try to extra-emphasize the exterior styling benefit. It's like THE selling point for such an Alfa.

[@bien9582]

😂😂😂😂

[@rudfil]

Well Mark is a car snob, he likes to burn his money on German money pits.

[@EatSleepDrive]

I'd buy one if it came with a lifetime supply of unlimited breadsticks...

[@aaronbaird9444]

Alfa Romeo has sold a total of 4700 vehicles, across entire lineup, in the first six months of the year, here in the United States. I am actually surprised to see the guys review this vehicle.

[@Dowlphin]

@@click9914 Clever. 👍

[@yay842]

That's 4700 more than they deserve. It's a shit and overrated brand. They're only alive because dumbfks thinks it's exotic

[@bbkangs]

Half that number must have been bought in Florida. I see Alfa Romeos everywhere

[@brandonclark8736]

You, don't need, so many, commas.

[@lotsofcurveslover]

Will the brand survive in the U.S.?

[@UnitedNaishuns]

Would like an updated Giulia / Stelvio review. Such underrated cars and seem to be holding up pretty good reliability wise.

[@itcangetbetter]

Feels like about $15-20k too much, regardless of reliability

[@yay842]

Lmao absolutely and yet dumbfks will buy it because people are badge hunting sheeps.

[@The_Stanman]

$43K starting price for a PHEV SUV is not high. Almost identical to the RAV4 Prime. This strategy for this is to almost exclusively lease. With the $7500 tax credit, leases should be well below $500/month

[@NotUrDJ]

You forgot the phev part. For that it's all right.

[@Qugie]

@@The_Stanman not with after Covid deals. everything is $500/month or more.

[@itcangetbetter]

@@Riles07 yup

[@porkchopdog5249]

Zero percent chance those lift point covers go back on before it leaves the the first shop you bring it to 😂

[@jamesmedina2062]

not in America at least right?

[@rootsmanuva82]

The Alfa Romeo Tonale is almost indistinguishable from a Dodge Hornet. That's going to really handicap it at around $50K against the X3, Q3, NX and GLB.

[@justinjones6810]

That is why this is the last year they will sell in the US no one is going to pay this much for basically a dodge hornet that you can get for 10 grand cheaper

[@ksoman953]

Not that I'd get a Tonale, but above statement is not true besides the basic platform. The fit & finish or NVH or driving dynamics alone would differentiate it wholly. Who cares for the rest? The world is full of rebadged shit that people pay premium for, from toilet paper to entire skyscrapers.

[@The_Stanman]

NX is the only one you mentioned that offers PHEV, and this is ~$15K cheaper. It's closest competitor is the RAV4 Prime. This strategy is to almost exclusively lease this car. With the $7500 tax credit, leases will likely be ~$400/month. Being an SUV and Alfa, I think it'll sell pretty well.

[@babajungLA]

Until you realize, that the Dodge Hornet costs $43K.

[@shadwblazeUSVI]

​@@The_Stanmanthis Tonale is made in Italy, I thought the 7500 tax credit was only for NA vehicles?

[@nizzan91]

The Olive Garden bit was absolutely genius

[@jacobknothanks1234]

Absolutely great review! Glad to see Mark is still Alive and loves this amazing car

[@commonsense8342]

I just wanted to let you know that I passed on this. Purchased a Porsche Macan GTS. Such an Amazing vehicle! Thank you Mr Geese.

[@Tiger_Woo_dds]

Mama mia! This just put the SAVAGE back into SavageGeese! 😂

[@SGVirtusAuthor]

Mark's most SAVAGE video is there one where during the drive he says NOTHING at all. Brilliantly done boys.

[@CBR2200]

I owned a 2019 Abarth Spider and currently own a 2021 Jeep Wrangler. I don't know what's going on with Stellantis, but my dealership service experiences have been almost 100% unacceptable. Months for an appointment, unavailable parts, inability to diagnose and/or repair somewhat common issues, etc. I wouldn't go near this car just based on that alone.

[@n.b.8572]

As an owner of a Alfa 4C, I 100% agree. Dealership service experience is terrible. I cannot suggest anyone get an Alfa for this reason alone.

[@zefolantar]

Anything Stellantis is junk on wheels! Check Consumer Reports, and buy accordingly. This is DEFINITELY NOT on the list! 👎

[@S2kTi]

You should have just gotten the Miata.

[@chrisss73841]

The mechanic is shortage is in full swing. Anyone willing to work on a shitty commission is going to work for Japanese brands that are easier to turn hours and less complicated to repair. So all these Stellantis dealers are just cycling through employees who for one reason or another needed something to pay the bills until they get a better job.

[@Suction_]

I really enjoyed that Mark just sat there motionless as Jack B58 just rambled on for a few minutes, then dropped him at olive garden. Genuinely great work

[@danlee3939]

A classy vehicle such as the Alfa Romeo Tonale should have had a tie-in with a restaurant of an equivalent prestige: Maggiano's Little Italy.

[@savagegeese]

They opened at 4, I needed breadsticks at 9am.

[@demwillams8898]

Their cheese ravioli is pretty good. The food quality of all chain restaurants has plummeted, but 20 years ago they had a few menu items that legit were better than actual chef restaurants in the Minneapolis area. RIP my delicious raviolis

[@oliverquickdidnothingwrong]

​@@demwillams8898that's because the quality of restaurants in general and especially in flyover states has massively improved over the last several decades. in 2003 the garbage they were serving at "chef restaurants" in Minneapolis would have been easy to beat with frozen Sysco entrees and some iceberg lettuce

[@demwillams8898]

@maxk1273 i disagree. mpls has had a solid food scene basically forever. Sure, there is always shit out there, but the point was that the food quality of chain restaurants is far worse than it used to be, not that restaurants with actual chefs has somehow gotten miraculously better.

[@oliverquickdidnothingwrong]

@@demwillams8898 restaurants with actual chefs have gotten better as the result of 1. increased competition and 2. social media showing diners and chefs not only what people are eating in global culinary hotspots, but also how to cook it. these days you can put "avocado cacao mousse with a touch of cannabis" on the menu in a Minneapolis restaurant and not only win an award, but somebody's mom will order it to celebrate a raise at her job as an accountant.

[@Lulzmango]

Ive watched this video like 6 times because I can't get over how beautiful the story progression is as we rejoin our ascendant family at the end.

[@busterscrugs]

The perfect vehicle to reinvigorate my T level

[@zenkoz3158]

Your wife's boyfriend's T level*

[@richardbixler]

I love the Olive Garden! There’s nothing more authentic. My server Jorge says I’m his favorite customer! He always tells me they make the Alfredo sauce “with extra love” just for me. I believe him because it tastes amazing! Looks almost like tapioca pudding but is sooo delizioso. I think they just appreciate that instead of tipping hand outs like everybody else, I always remind them know that our lord and savior love Jorge and all his amigo’s. That’s why I’m always blessed with such amazing service!

[@TheUrbanEpicure]

Unexpected source for what was probably the most positive review of the Tonale that I've seen or read, it got shredded here in Europe. Just not good enough, not refined, and way too cramped inside for its dimensions.

[@Dowlphin]

I'd say people buy (at least this non-sporty type of) Alfa for one thing only, and that's the exterior brand styling.

[@SturbokSensei]

This one is the PHEV which makes a bit more sense. In Europe they've been selling this as a 130hp FWD only version at an ABSURD price considering what you can get for the money from other brands. This car is at least 5 years late to the extremely crowded market segment it is now in.

[@TheUrbanEpicure]

@@SturbokSensei The PHEV version is sold here as well, and has also been reviewed poorly. Pricing isn't even the main issue, it's just not a very good car, full stop.

[@NotUrDJ]

If its cramped for Europeans then i can only imagine how Americans would fit inside it 💀

[@TheUrbanEpicure]

@@NotUrDJ Haha, well, you can hear Jack state in the video that he can't sit behind an adult in the Tonale. Americans are generally not taller than Europeans though (usually shorter actually), they're just much wider 😂

[@andrewnickds]

Best review yet. I can tell from Mark's tone that he absolutely loves the Toenail

[@paulbugoni2846]

Get a Stelvio. FWD based SUVs stink but that’s just my opinion. Just came back from Italy and did see quite a few on the road. Alfa has always had an innate ability to tune suspensions and make mundane vehicles at least a little more spirited, something BMW has forgotten how to do with numb chassis and steering albeit with great motors. As for reliability lease European, buy Japanese…

[@mitchellsteindler]

Just buy a cx30 and call it a day.

[@krashanb5767]

​@mitchellsteindler it's slow

[@JayDee-b5u]

No. A stelvio is an awd rwd bias suv. Wtf? Lol.

[@albertobenelli]

You see a lot of Stelvios here in Italy because of the huge discounts they do on company fleets .

[@teerexness]

My first thought was at this price point, why wouldn't you just get a more stylish Stelvio? My wife has one and it's an outstanding machine.

[@joshuastebell]

Definitely one the of CUVs ever engineered.

[@Ficon]

$55k for a Jeep Liberty with a 1.3 L engine. Putting your life in the hands of Alfa Romeo brake by wire.

[@hynsum]

So well said. 👍😅🙏 $55k might as well be spend on new hybrid Land Cruiser

[@paulj9821]

Bosch Brake By Wire, at least understand the tech before criticizing it.

[@a2xd94]

Actually it’s *break since it’s an Alfa Romeo

[@Ficon]

@@paulj9821 I have no problem with BBW. I just don’t expect Italian communists to implement it correctly.

[@ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725]

The brake by wire system is made by Bosch, so if something happens to you... blame the germans

[@Dddccc6669]

It's only interesting to put on your list when you explicitly want an full hybrid. Prices of competitor hybrids will also be much higher than the non hybrid variants. When a hybrid is not required you can easily pick up better and bigger options like you mentioned. You picked the X3 as an option and it's a good one. I'll put another one on the list you forgot to mention. It's bigger brother Stelvio. Put that on the lift and you'll see it's totally different and superior to the tonale for around the same price. A no brainer for me.

[@im2noob4bronze]

And the Stelvio is a premium SUV, like the BMW X5 or Mercedes GLA. I like Alfas, in Europe they sell pretty well and i want to buy a Guilia in the future. But selling the Tonale for 55K is just insane, it's a max 42K car after options

[@AlumarsX]

Giulia really needs a defeatable TCS or a standard LSD. TCS makes it ass in the snow.

[@Dddccc6669]

@@AlumarsX together with a rear camera update. That's unforgivable to me.

[@Trades46]

As someone who really likes Alfas, I hope this product succeeds.

[@THESLlCK]

there's nothing alfa romeo besides the badges

[@sneikiusas]

Tonale was so good, it almost left Mark tone-deaf :D would be interesting to see a review of Stelvio, which share the platform with Giulia and got many praises :)

[@AP-cc1uw]

So glad I just got a Giuia Estrema, just in time for the last of actually good Alfa cars.

[@twogenders]

The Olive Garden reference is apt. Well done, Mark.

[@gettcouped]

There are no bad products, only bad prices.

[@Offensively-normal]

I did watch twice. For whatever that's worth. Mark. I don't ever think you've been as articulate. I heard you clearly.

[@kayakkevin]

Holy cow that is a quality premium automobile!

[@R045T_B33F]

Love the MOPAR logos plastered all over this "Italian Exotic"

[@billiam247]

Let me guess, you used the free EV charger at the mall while you carb loaded? It's kind of cool/creepy how close your test drives are getting to my house. Always entertaining, sometimes informative. Never stop gentlemen

[@ricktrue8441]

Were is that road along that river? Looks like maybe Elgin or Algonquin?

[@billiam247]

@@ricktrue8441 Carpentersville, along the Fox.

[@darksideemt]

As a rather new Alfista convert with the purchase of our 22 Giulia, my only big complaint is the price. As someone else in the comments mentioned, it's about $10k too much in my opinion. I'm glad to hear what you said about how it drives as we have only seen and sat in one not driven one yet. As it stands I would opt for a Stelvio Veloce which with the discounts they do cost the same if not cheaper than a Veloce Tonale. You get a bigger SUV with same power for the cost. If you really need a smaller suv and want the ev option I feel this is a great thing if it was just priced a bit less.

[@AckbarsFist]

I was looking for someone to bring up the Stelvio. You can easily get a mid trim Stelvio for the price of a higher trim Tonale. Why even bother with this?

[@darksideemt]

@@AckbarsFist a lot of people really want the smaller size for whatever reason and the hybrid part, which is fine. For me though, I would go Stelvio I think.

[@kg1gfct]

How many breadsticks does the door card hold?

[@john5516]

Gotta ask Raiti’s Rides

[@nathanielross8232]

Olive gardens breadsticks are the reason you go there. Right? Can eat them instead of the entree.

[@KazuoNichimoto]

It's amazing how Mark doesn't have to say a single word and we still know his exact opinion on this car.

[@jerryeads4084]

Precedended reliability. Wonderful soul in these cars. Worked on a small herd of Alfas in my shop back in the 70's days of carbonators. Fabulous to drive but same reliability as the Brits. Kept us busy. Looks like no different today, sigh. If you got the bux, you'll love one as long as not what you depend on, but plan on another bay in your garage for a tow truck.

[@TassieLorenzo]

Is it really Jaguar Land Rover's or Alfa Romeo's fault that Lexus products have excessive (unnecessary?) quality control and durability testing, almost as if to try to make the British and Italian vehicles look bad? 🙂

[@dannoyes4493]

What a Car! What a Video! Well Done!

[@Illustroanimus]

Love your videos guys, watching in the UK and the pair of you make me laugh

[@antiseth3964]

I love watching Mark’s body in the passenger seat. It looks like his soul left five videos ago.

[@GS1GS1]

Best comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@Parker53151]

Speeding past a cemetery. Excellent symbolism.

[@AM-uk7jv]

I owned a Giulia in the past, and IMO, the interior design of Alfa products are the best, regardless of price. Looks great, has buttons, incredible seats, and fantastic ergonomics. The interior and exterior, IMO, will age well. It's too bad Alfa is under Stellantis though.

[@albertobenelli]

Man, you really think so ? What other brands did you ever drive/own before ? I am Italian and I still totally feel like alfas are 20 years behind competition always and at least 15/20% overpriced against competition

[@MuitoDaora]

​@@albertobenelliwell, in the 90s and early 00s their interiors were avant-garde imo.

[@AM-uk7jv]

@@albertobenelli I think that Alfa Giulia and Stelvio interiors are very similar to Mazda CX-5 or CX-9 interiors, which I also found to be great. The Alfas take it to the next level by adding sporty touches like the nicely bolstered sport seats and fantastic looking steering wheel. It may not have all the techy features of a Audi or MB or BMW, but that's precisely why I think their interiors are going to age a lot better, from at least a visual standpoint. If you're in to tech and screens and touch everything, then the Alfa interior wont impress you. It's the same with the 718 Porsches. They're at least a generation or two behind but the simplicity, buttons, and ergonomics are leagues better than a comparable Audi or MB or BMW product. The 718 interior is certainly much better than the garishly designed C8 interior, despite already being 7 years old. Sometimes, a simple, yet stylish interior is the best kind of interior. Porsche and Alfa know this.

[@Karan-nj2dk]

I did too! While I did appreciate the design of the interior, I wouldn't say the materials used and tech was better, or even on par with BMW/Audi/Merc. It didn't bother me because Alfa drove SO much better than the competition (also subjective), and while tech ages the fastest, driving dynamics of a great car are still great years later. Dealing with the dealership was a mess and they declared my car salvage because they couldn't diagnose/fix a broken oil pump within 3 months. If Alfa was reliable, it would be a such an easy sell.

[@albertobenelli]

@@Karan-nj2dk don’t know ….I respect your taste/opinion which unfortunately is not shared by many as Alfa sales show . The 4c is a true Alfa product, the giulia QV is …a 2.5 tons diesel suv not so much .

[@carlosrivera7274]

Dude mark said everything about thi shit box by not saying nada 😂that’s why you guys are my numero uno great video 👍🏽👍🏽

[@xatic-z]

don't think I've ever seen MarK so content riding in a car before, besides when he's in something that he claims make him feel nothing only to rupture in to laughter 2 seconds later post-powerslide

[@Thore__]

Again a brilliant piece of audiovisual Media

[@117johnpar]

For an old people mover. This is definitely one of the best looking.

[@clifftaylor3295]

My wife's boyfriend told her that she should be driving a Tonale because it "modern styling". I traded my CTR and her CX-5 in, so now we both satisfy his wishes. Happy wife, happy life.

[@clardrives9301]

Lucky you, MY wife’s boyfriend told me I had to trade in my Mitsubishi mirage for one of these. Was not pleased about it.

[@624radicalham]

your wife has a boyfriend?

[@Kulu-M]

Well, Jack you've definitely poked the Hornet's nest with the Tonale 🧐. Trust me, it is best in class.

[@clubracer6]

Was not going to watch this, because I hate the car, but it autoplayed and glad I stuck around. Entertaining and I love most of West Dundee!

[@kirkericson2722]

I was excited to watch because I hate the car and looked forward to Mark eviscerating the car. Unfortunately he had a breadstick stuck in his throat.

[@dil6969]

The hidden lift points are mind boggling. The Giulia and Stelvio kindly provide blocks that protrude from the bottom of the vehicle and are easy to see and use. Why they went this route is beyond me, although I'm sure aerodynamics is the excuse. I can guarantee those panels will all be mysteriously missing by the third oil change, worsening the aerodynamics versus regular lift points.

[@MrBubs-yu4wm]

What a coincidence. I watched this while trimming my tonales

[@RS3NDIT]

my parents and brother just purchased a 2020 stelvio ti sport and a 2019 giulia ti sport and one of my favorite things about the cars are the gauges, second only to the steering. Those analog gauges are just gorgeous. Not a fan of these digital ones replacing them.

[@tazcalvin]

That is one heck of loudest turn clicking sound. It’s like someone is banging nail with hammer

[@doublehh666]

AI has now seized Mark’s brain. Outstanding segment

[@rickhayner2514]

"Presidential hands" limited! I just about lost my coffee laughing! Keep it up!

[@David-mm5vl]

Like the idea of the Tonale with the 2.0 Turbo but a PHEV is a hard pass. People who buy Alfas are looking for a certain driving experience or look and I feel. Maybe the Hornet GLH will be better. Going PHEV only is really going to limit the market for this vehicle. Thanks Guys.

[@andrewweltlich9065]

You're totally right. The Tonale has zero Alfa DNA in it. It drives like any other economy car and lacks the soul the Giulia and Stelvio have.

[@TassieLorenzo]

"People who buy Alfas are looking for a certain driving experience" What happened to the Giulietta Veloce and especially the Giulietta QV with the manual? 😟 I think it is a total misstep for Alfa to abandon the hatchback and hot hatchback segment, and only have a CUV offering.

[@AP-cc1uw]

nevermind the sport sedan segment. Alfa should be different, not try to be the same as everyone else with a focus on CUVs@@TassieLorenzo

[@m33pr0r]

That was absolutely brilliant. The Olive Garden touch... wow...

[@pileofwit]

Olive Garden and Alfa Romeo really are the two best things Italy has given to the world.

[@teerexness]

If Olive Garden knew how to season food without eye-watering amounts of garlic, they might have something going on. I can smell Olive Garden from 4 blocks away in my Giulia!

[@clifftaylor3295]

If Olive garden is truly a sponser for your channel, I LOVE IT. So so good.

[@milkacj5788]

So basically it’s a dodge ingrown toenail?

[@imdone1967]

It's going to require surgery. The outcome doesn't look promising.

[@AlahuSnackbar]

Really enjoying the updated and refined Mark 2.12.4

[@vedranbozicevic1111]

Mark said everything about this product what has to be said.

[@lttsr]

Bro when AI Mark started speaking I busted out laughing 😂. Haven’t laughed like this is in a while

[@kurtstephan7039]

Admirable restraint--no "Toenail" comment until 2:25.

[@_Makanko_]

Great driving segment guys!

[@ravichjakkaratropart5083]

For $50k, I can get a decently equipped Alfa Romeo Stelvio. It's not a hybrid and it's RWD base and better in everyway.

[@ideallogic]

The way Mark was silently sitting there, gave me a flahback for "Weekend at Bernie's" with Jack just lugging him around town ! Ah , the late '80s ...

[@desktop2815]

I see now, this car to other cars of its class is like Olive Garden to Italian food.

[@vasekvi]

Immediately recognizable as a Hornet. Oof. Great content as usual! Keep it up.

[@728GT]

Wow McPherson strut suspension front and rear. Welcome back to the 80's 🎉

[@TassieLorenzo]

It's an economy car. Why complain about that? 🙂 If you want a car with 20 control arms both the Stelvio and Jeep Cheerokee offer that.

[@728GT]

@@TassieLorenzo economy car? Have you lost your rabbit ass mind? 50k is not an economy car.

[@fergusx]

You won’t beat an Alfa for fun factor when driving, rented a BMW in Italy last year and was handed a Stelvio instead. Had a blast during around Tuscany for a week.

[@ZZZZ-mkv]

If we're going to get unreliable but stylish cars in America, can we at least get Peugeot?

[@takuan650]

Mark liked it so much it left him speechless.

[@hissingoose]

Wonder if it goes into shutdown mode when put in a simulated snow test like the dodge hornet did.

[@zigforjustice]

If I don't see Mark in the next video, I'll trust he's still getting over the unlimited breadsticks carbo-coma

[@mikefaulhaber]

The color of this tester is only slightly nicer than the refrigerator white color available. In other colors, though, the Tonale can have some real presence. Regardless, given risk/benefits, I'd just pony up for a Stelvio.

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

The Olive Garden bit was hilarious 😂

[@Kilaueaorph4n]

We’re in the era of “entry level 55k CUV”.

[@Hardcaslte]

Holy shit, as soon as Jack said he's going to his favorite video the first thing I thought was "that would be hilarious if they stop at an olive garden"

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

The price really lost me.

[@fraxonthefurry21]

The olive garden of cars

[@markrozenberg7959]

We heard the same quality concerns when the Giulia came out. Turns out, it’s no better or worse than its competitors.

[@tonysterbenc]

Is that how the Giulia has turned out?

[@markrozenberg7959]

@@tonysterbenc JD Power gives it a quality score of 77/100. BMW 3-series gets 79/100. Both are in the “average” category.

[@tonysterbenc]

@@markrozenberg7959 With all due respect, that's pretty cherry-picked. First, JD Power usually measures just "initial" quality, with no regard for durability. Second, nobody said the 3 is the best or only competitor. Even if we pretend the Lexus IS doesn't exist, I'd bet on the A4 to have higher quality than either of those.

[@markrozenberg7959]

@@tonysterbenc I’m just citing JD Power as an example; the point being that Giulia is in the same category as most of its competitors, Lexus being an outlier. Btw, the A4 is also “average”, but slightly better with 79/100.

[@ksoman953]

@5:52, love the Mark doll with an eerie permanent smile!

[@lehelzelenka207]

They made a McPherson suspension with steel wishbones and it drives great but they bash the design for the lack of aluminium in suspension components. If it's not needed, it's not needed. It's not a 500hp sports car that would have crazy torque steer without a double wishbone, all aluminium, etc setup.