2024 BMW R1300GS ASA

[@ianhalliwell8604]

As an oldie i can't afford a BMW and even if i could 25 grand is ridiculous. So i took a Honda NC750X DCT out for a demo last week. Very apprehensive at first but i took to it like a duck to water and was blown away with its ability. Lovely low down and midrange power, fast enough for me and at 9 grand affordable. Next spring I'll be getting one.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@ianhalliwell8604 an excellent choice. Ofter overlook, but It's been Big H's big seller list since it was released....

[@jimporter]

@@ianhalliwell8604 I have an NC but it’s just a shame Honda don’t make a Pro version with upgraded components as used on X-ADV and the Forza 750s, instead they just let it languish at commuter level.

[@SomewhereInside]

As a older rider this review , took me back to my first ever bike , a brand new 1975 Honda Z50J, auto 3 speed gearbox no clutch 😊. Wow how technology has changed . Once I graduated to a YZ80 , never looked back wanting a clutch less bike . I appreciate these cutting edge bikes change gears automatically , maybe a good experience , might try one , but let’s not fool ourselves , you can never take away lighting up a fast bike and shifting gears with your foot . And how are wheelies performed with no clutch at low speeds?

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jimporter big H don't really do fun or exciting far too conservative...form and function

[@theloftybiker3090]

@orionswitness "wheelies" are jail time nowadays 😅🤣😂🤣😆 modern bikes are so powerful the clutch is not needed to perform a wheelie, it's a degree in computer science to disable the electronics....

[@JakeStrada]

I bought 1 of the first honda NC750X DCT models back in 2015 and at the time what a bike, it's amazing just how quick you get used to the automatic, tons of my friends all screwed their faces when i told them and most came back with a smile on their face after having a shot of it, Just bought a R1250 GSA, but the new ASA will definitely be on my target list for the future

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@JakeStrada it's very good but it's not a DCT yet...thanks for watching

[@stephenpotts8170]

Enjoyed your review of the ASA system, I'm with you, just ordered a new GSA with it, think it will appeal more to the older rider. For me it's the way to go, anything that makes life easier for me, and maybe safer I'm for. Thank you.

[@theloftybiker3090]

thanks for watching Stephen

[@BubbaSatori]

Old fart here. ASA and seat height lowering will allow me to keep riding through my 70's. Agree with your comment about the evolution of bike technologies.Thanks for your review.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@BubbaSatori thanks for watching

[@SouthWest-jj8yu]

I had 3 different model GS’s until a few months ago but got rid of them all and replaced them with an RT that I love to ride, sure they’ll be bringing a 1300 ASA to the market soon. On the subject of automatic it’s different to this but after 40+ years biking a couple of years ago I got a BMW scooter. I know it’s not the same but I love this as well with the auto CVT is just so easy to ride. Use it all the time got rid of a car when I retired so shops local trips two up, it tops out at around 95mph so motorways or any faster roads are fine. Point is I love being on any two wheels and auto transmission I think makes riding easier especially in traffic and I don’t think it takes anything really from the experience

[@theloftybiker3090]

I agree 100%...I have 2 scooters and a DCT NT1100....if clutchness bikes are good enough for Moto GP riders, they'll do for me

[@fraserpaterson6629]

My 1300GS Adaptive Ride Height failed after 20 or so weeks and 1200 miles. Much back and forth with Germany for a solution, their latest is to replace both front and rear suspension plus hydraulic pump , parts cost £4500! Glasgow Motorrad been excellent, but a suspension failure could result in catastrophe. No confidence in bike now. So, Cherrio 1300GS and hello to 1250 RT TE. Which I have previously owned and enjoyed.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@fraserpaterson6629 hadn't heard of ride height failures...along with starter relays and pannier lids....BMW need to up their game a little...thanks for watching

[@daviddavis6618]

I‘m riding >20’000 km the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S with quickshifter, it’s an excellent bike. Great fun, very few problems. Actually none in the last 10‘000km. But unfortunately it doesn’t offer an automatic gear shift as the BMW ASA you tested. This reminds me of my former BMW C650GT which had a full automatic, too. Why is this not standard on all larger bikes? It’s just so much better! This ASA feature makes the 1300 GS very attractive, what a nice step forward!!! Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@daviddavis6618 not yet the asa Duke and KTM is imminent....the show at EICMA is early November, we will know more then....thanks for watching

[@vacoas04]

The gear change alters depending on riding mode as well. In manual mode if you try and come to a stop in a high gear it will change down the box to first as you come to a stop, no stalling!

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@vacoas04 I didn't detect any difference between road and dynamic for the gear change...a little disappointed there were no kick down...but a wonderful 1st attempt....

[@vacoas04]

​@@theloftybiker3090I was assured that it does, but it linked to speed , angle etc as well as the engine mode. I doubt that you were in a position to really open it up on Cornish roads. With the engine CC and amount of Boxer torque I don't think it needs kick down and if the rider feels that it needs more get up and go they just tap down on the gear shift in auto mode😁

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@vacoas04 lol its not all on camera....😉

[@fuglbird]

I'm 66 and have ridden motorcycles since 1978. The R1300GS ASA and the Honda NC750X DCT are too heavy for my liking. In May I got myself a SV650. After 8000 km with day trips and a two week camping trip using minor roads I'm quite happy with it. 29 km/l is not bad.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@fuglbird cracking bike....

[@Fernando90054]

I still enjoy to work manually with the gearbox and the regular clutch system, but when I ride an full automatic bike, I enjoy it too and when adding the pillion presence in the bike the automatism makes a lot of sense then. It turns the pilot’s job much easier and that a peremptory fact to me. Mostly every enhancement that machine industry develops ten out of ten are assets to better our relation and use of machinery. If I can benefit from it, why not? Excellent analysis of the novelty made to the 1300 GS, this video puts it very clearly! Thanks ! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@theloftybiker3090]

@Fernando90054 an mind is like a parachute, it only works when it is open.....

[@Lucky7141962]

What about those tight turn situations (hairpin and parking lot) in which slipping the clutch is quite useful (if not essential)?

[@theloftybiker3090]

''Clutch'' what's a clutch for....it's no problem...easy peasy...thanks for watching

[@adrianleach1670]

Same as with CVT; bit of throttle and back brake.

[@BlackBirdieGolf]

Can you do a video of what you would like changed to the upcoming 2025 goldwing? Horsepower, navigation, heated stock seat, etc...

[@theloftybiker3090]

Very hard bike to get hold of.....no change due I believe

[@BlackBirdieGolf]

@@theloftybiker3090 I think the press release will come out this October. They need to do something since the RT1300 will have a ASA version also.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@BlackBirdieGolf I believe the ASA could go through the range soon....heard nothing about the Wing......

[@jedleach7018]

Good review Lofty, you may have converted me, as you say I’ll go and test ride it 👍🏍

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jedleach7018 its sitting waiting at Penryn for you......

[@redhedhair]

I have a 2018 GSA 1200 from new. I love that bike even after a 1250 test ride. 1300 ASA has got me hooked even before a test ride👍 Nice one Lofty.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@redhedhair thanks for watching

[@jatichsicharta]

I'm wondering how it works at very low speed. Does it find the friction zone as you would do with a clutch?

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jatichsicharta you need to go ride one...you are obviously a none believer😅😆😆😁🤣😆😆😁 thanks for watching

[@nathanbrompton453]

I like the idea of an automatic with a standard gear selector. I like the e-clutch also. Ive got a dodgy left hand but my left foot works well. Did Honda offer the option on DCT?

[@theloftybiker3090]

@nathanbrompton453 yes, flappy paddles or foot shift......

[@BlackBirdieGolf]

So this is better than the goldwing dct? Im going to check out the RT 1300 ASA

[@theloftybiker3090]

@BlackBirdieGolf the Wing DCT is probably the best bike ever built and used as a tourer on A roads it's NO.1 in that environment....the GS is the best all-rounder. Brilliant at most things, turning it's wheels to any task....it is also 10k cheaper than a Wing.....you pays yer dosh and takes your choice.....thanks for watching

[@BlackBirdieGolf]

I​@@theloftybiker3090I had the BMW RT and that bike was amazing. The maintenance made me sick so I got ride of it. I'm looking forward to see if Honda updates the Goldwing to keep up with BMW. BMW created the ASA to compete with Honda since the Africa Twin DCT sales are high in the US. Great video my friend!

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@BlackBirdieGolf Honda updated the Wing in 2022.....it's not a huge seller .....2 very diferent bikes.........The GS is huge in Europe

[@Ole.Schultz]

Agree on that no clutch lever/automatic is the future. I had a NC700X DCT and now have NC750X DCT and R1250GS. I wish that my BMW had ASA.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@Ole.Schultz all will be auto v soon .....thanks for watching

[@fuglbird]

No clutch lever - just like Honda Dax from 1971. I sometimes borrowed that bike from a friend In Kalundborg, when I was in high school. The seventies were great in so many way. Back to the future!

[@HJM1974]

As a R1300GS Triple Black owner i am gutted to hear about ASA. I would have it in a heart beat :( but having laid out over 20k for a bike i cant afford to change

[@theloftybiker3090]

@HJM1974 it was a big surprise to everyone. It appeared so quickly! Looks like Triumph is the only big name not to be developing an auto....but who knows......thanks for watching

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

I’m on my second BMW and can’t say I’d ever even look at the GS1300 for all kinds of reasons but ( I ride a RS1200 ) I did consider buying a S1000XR in the new year but I’m sick to death of BMW ripping me off …for instance at 7200 miles last October my bike demanded its 4th service … yes it’s fourth visit to BMW in only 7200 miles and now a year later my dash lights up with ‘service required’ …. It’s done 8500 miles … that’s BMW demanding another service for 1300 miles of use !!!!! So bye bye BMW I’ve had enough and will look at another bike as I can’t help thinking BMW are taking me for a ride

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@stevedavies-pp7dp at £25k a pop its out of my reach...thanks for watching

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

@@theloftybiker3090 as companies like voge offer the same engine in its DS900 with every conceivable extra plus luggage for £9200 and triumph just released ( today ) it’s beautiful new 800 tiger which apart from the old looking dash is far better than BMW twice the price 900 I think BMW will start to lose a lot of sales in the coming years through their own greed and stupidity

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@stevedavies-pp7dp I do prefer the CF moto Explore, but that snatchy throttle is terrible 😉

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

@@theloftybiker3090 at £9200 With luggage and every extra in the BMW catalogue I imagine the VOGE DS900 will rattle BMW in the coming years

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@stevedavies-pp7dp I believe Chinese bikes and cars will liven them all up. They are certainly rattling cages...🤣😅😅😢😆😉

[@49googie]

This would be great for my Gout !! lol

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@49googie certainly is and far better than Port...thanks for watching

[@TheDervMan]

I’m a DCT owner and love it, rarely ride my GS these days. I was really surprised when BMW announced an auto version of the GS. Sadly not for me as I don’t like the looks. 😢

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@TheDervMan appreciated but you don't look at a bike whilst riding 🤣😅😆😆 I too am a dct owner and love it...thanks for watching

[@jimporter]

Shame BMW in their wisdom have decided not to put finger controls on as they find they regard them as unnecessary, for me not able to use a foot change they are necessary if I want to go manual or override a down change on the box.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jimporter I think paddles will come but the current switch gear is far too busy on the left, especially with the wizz wheel...

[@jimporter]

@@theloftybiker3090 couldn’t get much worse than the left cluster on the AT.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jimporter yes correct but it works very well and soon become very intuitive......I love my flappy paddles

[@jimporter]

@@theloftybiker3090 I have them on my NC.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@jimporter and on the new auto Yam mt09....wonderful

[@milabaigar]

Problem is if it goes wrong out of warranty it’s a mortgage to repair for sure ! I’ll stick with my 1250 gs

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@milabaigar same problem with any bike .....thanks for watching

[@raycollington4310]

Never touch a job 1 new automotive industry product. Even the people who design and manufacture this stuff will privately tell you to avoid the risk. There will be recall and dealer updates . Just lthink how long the Honda DCT has been evolving and updated. Let the naive early adopters take the pain of the undocumented features . This is not a criticism , you yourself have given examples of product development. Good video however, thank you.

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@raycollington4310 I 💯 agree, always avoid gen one bikes...the only reason I had the NT way its basically a gen 3 AT....thanks for watching

[@vacoas04]

The whingers will always whinge and talk BS. Manual mode you change between all 6 gears the same as usual but without the need for a clutch. You know about Quickshifter whingers? Like a quickshifter but BETTER, so you ride and have control but better!

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@vacoas04 well said....i do think it but don't say it.....this system is a real game changer.....deffo not a deal breaker......can't wait to ride the yam version....and the MV

[@frankspeakmore7104]

It is interesting how this bike is so sanitised that it's lost the "fun" factor. Is it now a very, very expensive scooter?

[@theloftybiker3090]

@frankspeakmore7104 you could say just like a moto GP bike 🏍

[@frankspeakmore7104]

​@@theloftybiker3090 Pretty sure you couldn't ride a moto GP bike any more than you could drive an F1 car and would take you months/years to master either. This technology IS coming to most/all bikes. I might end up with automation myself, but there is still some fun to be had with pulling a lever and operating a gear lever to be had. A PCP plan for this bike, along with the service plan for the warranty for 3/4 years puts it out of reach for many. Like a Range Rover it has become more of a "Flash my cash" bike that for most, even with this automation will not be used "off road".

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@frankspeakmore7104 it's far too expensive for my pocket

[@fuglbird]

Please do not be offensive. Scooters are very practical and economical vehicles for riding in towns and cities with ample storage space and some rain protection. The R1300GS ASA does not qualify as a scooter in any way.

[@fuglbird]

@@frankspeakmore7104 :"This technology IS coming to most/all bikes". Someone said the same when this technology was introduced on the Dax in 1971. Welcome to "the future". You must be very young or have recognized bikes late in your midlife crisis.

[@GPR111]

Given the failures the 1300gs has already suffered I would be Very Dubious about rushing in to buy an asa bike until its been proved reliable. The bikes are too ugly for me anyway and the ergonomics are a backward step in order to make it "sporty".

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@GPR111 that old 1st generation problem......usually takes 18 months of product testing on the public......its not as if you get a discount for doing their job!

[@stephenbryson5618]

Not for me, to expensive Electrically and mechanically unstable..

[@theloftybiker3090]

@@stephenbryson5618 maybe but we don't know yet! It's new!

[@yendlurinaresh9412]

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