2024 IFBB Pro League Arnold Classic Open Classic Physique Recap

[@lilyeeezyyyy]

Y'all should start judging finals too, just like bodybuilding

[@NPCNewsOnline]

They do, that is the Confirmation Of Scoring Round, same as they do in Bodybuilding. It's just not called Finals judging. So when you hear Confirmation Of Scoring Round, that's judging at the finals.

[@lilyeeezyyyy]

@@NPCNewsOnline ah, fair play. Thanks for the clarifications

[@projectbodybuilding]

@@NPCNewsOnline why are prejudging and finals not separated on the scorecard anymore? Why are they still separated for Open?

[@nepalibeardguy69]

Urs win front double bi, ab and thigh, and favourite classic physic pose. 2nd for sure.

[@Chocolatesauce._]

He does NOT win the front double just look at breons arms and lats it’s not even close bruh💀

[@Ross_Sandoval]

I love these so much. This isn’t about politics this all about who shows up the best

[@Kain0811]

Da kann man um den heißen Brei reden wie man will, die Bewertungen der Platzierungen von Urs und Breon bei beiden Veranstaltungen innerhalb der beiden Wochen widersprechen sich, egal von welcher Seite man es betrachten möchte. Daher kommt bei mir das Gefühl von Willkür auf beim Bewerten.

[@NPCNewsOnline]

How? What happened in the USA has no bearing on the placings in the UK. Physiques can change within hours so what contradictions are you referring to?

[@MrXolaX]

I love and appreciate these videos

[@MarcAngeloGaming]

I mean let’s be honest here, Breon shoulda won in Ohio instead of UK, he was pretty much gifted this placing after what happened in Ohio, he shoulda been second in Ohio cause Urs came off, Urs came in crazier in the Arnold UK and fix his conditioning and how does he lose to Breon when he beat Breon at Ohio and he was off in Ohio. There no question Breon from the back it’s game over best back in bodybuilding, but it’s just not enough to beat Urs shape and conditioning, dude Urs had lines in his Quads teardrop, Bodybuilders and Breon don’t even have that, only Kai greene, so how tf does a guy who came in better conditioning than Breon, hairline striations in the quads Breon and Wesley doesn’t even have that let alone how hard to get that is, gets beat at UK when he brought a better package than Ohio, if it’s a hairline Judge on both of them, I mean come on how could you place the guy lower who has better conditioning regardless if Breon had better arms and back, because Urs package overall was great and his arms and back wasn’t terrible just needs work so I just don’t think Breons back and Arms really Over powers the fullness Of Urs, Conditioning, Leg Seperation, and shape, Breon comes in pretty flat and we can see that still looks good but Urs was coming in full and striated that was like Top Peak, just look at the difference at 6:15, you’re telling me Breon places over that, nah lmao, I really do think the judges got this wrong because they got Ohio wrong for Breon, look at the fullness and conditioning of Urs compared to Breon on that time stamp, it’s Night and Day, let alone the quads, you’re telling me You guys put Breon ahead because his arms and back was enough to overtake Urs overall package is insane, even Urs is more dense and Urs was looking crazier than Wesley in this pose so how does he get 3rd lol, Urs not only had better conditioning than Breon let alone leg size night and day difference, his quad was more striated and was looking better than Wesley’s in this pose so how does he get 3rd lmao, and Believe me I’m not saying this to hate on Breon because I do think Breon has the best back in bodybuilding this generation and should of one Ohio but this was a gift placing over Urs, Even ask Steven Weinberg head judge there’s no way he can confidently say, that Breon had a better overall package than Urs here, bodybuilding should not be the most muscular placing, it’s overall package, any true fan knows that, so you’re telling me Breons out muscled Urs was enough to over take Urs and Urs had bigger quads and was more conditioned, nah. Imagine dieting to get this dry and you get beat by the guy who had a couple muscle groups better and you were outsizing him in the quads and satiations and fullness, it shouldn’t be like that, if it’s a close judge, you pick the guy that has overall better shape that’s how judging should be. I think the judges should start listening to what the fans see as a whole cause even they are starting to get it wrong, this is basically what the judges are telling as, “We are gonna put Breon ahead of Urs because he had Better Arms and back” but yet Urs had Better Number 1 Conditioning, Legs, Flow, shape, fullness, and every other muscle group came equal except for arms and back and Yet the judges are gonna tell us that it’s enough to surpass all the other aspects of bodybuilding and technically Having better arms and back one should be off set cause Urs beat Breons legs by miles so it’s really just one muscle group Breon has over Urs maybe shoulders, if it was a most muscular competition then Markus Raul woulda won plenty of times and that was bodybuilding, this is Classic so it should be even a less judge on over all body part compared to body part but overall flow and package, Any true fan would agree with anything I’ve said

[@NPCNewsOnline]

Just curious if you attended both the Ohio & London contests in person? As has been said before, you can't judge a contest from photos & videos as they are just a moment in time. There's a lot more that happens on stage than is seen in photos & videos. The stage videos & photos are just used to highlight the points made. And also, what he talks about here is his opinion. Remember there are 11 judges there where 3 highs & 3 low scores get eliminated & the average of the rest is what determines the scores & placings. What happened in Ohio had no bearing on London. Per your statement above, "The judges got this wrong because they got Ohio wrong for Breon", but nobody got "gifted" as you stated & is your opinion & go ahead & ask Steve Weinberger as he was the head judge at both. The panels from Ohio & London were majority the same in both. We appreciate your respectfulness in your post & why we have taken the time to respond. Also have you seen Urs' social media? He talked about his condition in both contests & plans to make adjustments for the Olympia. It looks like he won't be doing anything else until the Olympia.

[@MarcAngeloGaming]

@@NPCNewsOnline I was not, and I do agree you are right about it’s hard to judge overall with Videos and pics but now a days we are getting 4K vids and you can’t hide conditioning and fullness regardless of what goes down at the show, so tell me this are we really gonna deny the fact that Urs DIDN’T show up more full and striated and conditioned than Breon? That’s just not an opinion though, weather you were at the show or not, the amount of low body fat to get quad feathering he was way on striated than Breon, being in the show or vids, We can all see that. And is it an Opinion that Urs Brought a way better package in UK than Ohio? Even Urs knows he did so if that’s the case how does Urs Beat Breon in Ohio but Not Uk when he’s conditioning and fullness was fixed by a good amount, Breon pretty much stayed the same maybe a tad sharper but Urs was miles better compared to Ohio, so how does one who looked better in UK places below Breon but when he was off in Ohio places above Breon, Breon change was not that drastic from Ohio and we all see that, that’s not an opinion that just doesn’t makes sense, everyone knows Urs was not his best package in Ohio and he looked soo much better at the Uk, that’s an opinion? I did see Urs post of course he can always improve, it’s not an opinion that a lot of People Knew Urs was off and Breon shoulda won in Ohio, let’s not forget Urs was off by ALOT in Ohio, so how does him being way on now places even lower that’s where the consistency is messed up, and I Do get it Judging is obv a hard job but not when circumstances are showing you a little more obvious, If both physiques are very close right I wanna know how does a guy with crazy quad feathering still places below to someone who’s conditions is way lower if both physiques wear hairline close but the fullness and the guy who was more striated and bigger legs gets lower, that’s doesn’t feel like those thing I’ve stated are opinions but what it truly is on stage. Of course the judges are gonna say it has no effect but them knowing Breon was placed below Urs in Ohio when maybe should of won of course will have some effect when you’re judging the same people a week later and you didn’t pick the guy maybe should of won in Ohio, a lot of people are wondering Why Breon didn’t win inOhio over Urs, A Lot, even though Urs obv could beat Breon is what we want answers and the fans are wondering why Breon didn’t Beat Urs in Ohio but Beats Urs in UK? When Urs got miles better, and looking back at it Breon might have even been more on In Ohio and Urs was wayyyy off way. It’s just not an Opinion to say Urs looked Way better in Uk person or Vid I think a lot of people would agree

[@WilltoImprove]

Breon being over 40 still looks phenomenal his quads are starting to become a bit up and down

[@user-ld9hh7rl4x]

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[@bencasas2742]

I´m sorry but looking at this footage AND listening to the opinions of experts that were at the show in person, Urs seemed to be extremely conditioned on pre judging and certainly didn´t look anywhere near "off". You can see that his skin texture and thinness is much superior than Breons. And yes he lacks in the back detail and arm size but that was also the case the week before in Ohio where he placed ahead of Breon. I would have been okay with Breon placing ahead of Urs in Ohio or even at the Olympia but I feel like at the UK show it was actually the biggest gap that Urs ever had to Breon and then he got placed behind him... I do appreciate these recap videos A LOT but really don´t understand this placing.

[@NPCNewsOnline]

Who were the "opinions of experts that were at the show in person" other than the judges? Did you know the panel for USA & UK were basically the same?

[@bencasas2742]

@@NPCNewsOnline For example Iain Valliere who watched both the Ohio and UK show in person and who had Breon in Ohio ahead of Urs and in UK the other way around. Stefan Kienzl who is not only a coach but also a judge said he didn´t agree with the placing at all and also couldn´t quite understand how Urs was not rewarded for the big improvements he made in that week (posing, tan, conditioning) while Breon brought a similar, maybe slightly better version in the UK. Also several ifbb pros which attended the show in person mentioned that they didn't understand the placing as Urs looked so much improved compared to the week before. I know you guys who judged the shows are the "true experts" and as a fan I truly think that you are generally doing an amazing job but this time it seems like lots of people (me included) are confused by the placings between Urs and Breon at those 2 Arnolds. The fact that the panel for the USA and UK were basically the same is even more confusing to me as it shows that there where judges who had Urs ahead of Breon in the US but Breon ahead of Urs in the UK.

[@MarcAngeloGaming]

This is exactly the same as my comment, I went into details on this

[@MarcAngeloGaming]

@@NPCNewsOnline I told you guys it wasn’t just me wondering it, it’s a big mistake and it’s obvious because however way they explain it’s not gonna justify the mistake because Urs looked better in UK by miles but Urs placed ahead of Breon in Ohio and he was off? It makes it worst if it’s the sam panel because it’s shows the inconsistency in the judging is bad

[@SreeFpirit]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@NPCNewsOnlinedidn’t some of these experts told Markus Rühl in the past that he was to „small“ ?😂😂

[@nhallo7596]

Urs had to be 2. at UK and 4. in US.

[@user-oq6sc1qm4j]

I am first.